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[00:42] blindcod1r (i=id@tor/session/x-6f1105f9de1651b3) joined #rocklinux. [00:42] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/x-3f8baf35a8f82303) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [01:03] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-102-118.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [01:18] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-104-223.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [01:18] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [01:20] mnemoc (n=amery@user4-2.tutopia-dialup.ifxnw.cl) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [01:33] <fake> stf^rocklinux: still here? [04:13] <th> here we go! [04:16] <fake> <- :-Q [04:23] <fake> so [04:23] <fake> /dev/discs/ test install runinng [04:37] <fake> ach fuck [04:38] <th> i still need to commit some few things [04:40] <fake> hihi [04:41] <fake> you can dump into the initrd bash with real_root=/dev/not_there ;) [04:42] <th> so how's /dev/discs doing/going? [04:42] <fake> it works in the readily booted system [04:43] <fake> but it's still doing the old behaviour for the initrd [04:43] <fake> and i'm currently quite puzzled as to why [04:43] <th> all required tools for it in initrd? [04:43] <th> like find? [04:44] <fake> more like, readlink, cut, grep [04:44] <th> they are missing? [04:44] <th> why do we need /dev/discs in initrd? [04:44] <fake> the question is: why shouldn't it work? [04:44] <fake> no, they're all there [04:44] <th> 04:46:42 < th> they are missing? [04:44] <th> hmm [04:45] <fake> that's what puzzles me [04:45] <th> could you give me an ISO with only bootdisk target in it? [04:45] <th> so i could try to help [04:45] <fake> it works in the bootdisk [04:45] <fake> just not in the mkinitrd-created initrd [04:45] <th> ahh [04:48] <fake> i can boot with no problems, though [04:48] <th> cause your fstab does not use /dev/discs/... [04:48] <fake> ah, now it's in the system again, too [04:48] <fake> GNAAAAA [04:49] <th> does it work after echoing "add" > /sys/block/.../sda2 [04:49] <th> ? [04:50] <fake> got it... [04:50] <fake> the if [ -d /dev/discs ] is to be blamed [04:50] <fake> it makes to 'break' misbehave [04:51] <fake> another test build... [04:52] <fake> th: wanna try the new script? [04:53] <fake> https://f4k3.net/~fake/patches/scsi-devfs.sh [04:53] <th> yes [04:55] <th> installed. [04:55] <th> rebooting [04:57] <th> you could have at least removed the -x [04:57] <th> ;) [04:57] <fake> i did? [04:57] <th> damn [04:57] <th> dont scare me [04:57] <fake> you forgot mkinitrd [04:57] <th> yea [04:57] <fake> *gg* [04:58] <fake> (now you'll be phracked by my rm -rf /) [04:58] <th> well my vmware has this "Revert" button. [04:59] <th> and the sounds of my harddisk is just the updatedb. if you were referring to this ;) [04:59] <th> it's 500h [04:59] <th> i'll be in my office in 4 hours [04:59] <th> that's interesting [05:02] <th> nononononono [05:02] <th> fake! [05:02] <th> it's broken [05:03] <th> see standard shot url [05:04] <fake> WTF! [05:04] <fake> this just CANT be true [05:05] <th> you cant comfirm this? [05:08] <fake> still installing [05:08] <th> did i forgot mkinitrd again? [05:09] <th> ahhhhhh [05:10] <th> not the mkinitrd makes system unbootable [05:10] <th> screenshot uploaded [05:11] <fake> oops... good bye, XFS... [05:11] <fake> root [05:12] <th> my rootfs is ext3! [05:12] <fake> the kernel seems to think otherwise... [05:13] <th> it even tried UDF [05:13] <th> the problem is the unknown block device (1,0) [05:15] <fake> it's the /dev/null redirections, they don't work [05:15] <fake> @/dev/discs problem [05:16] <fake> no [05:16] <fake> i've had enough of this now. [05:16] <fake> i rebooted 3 times with the exact same script now [05:16] <fake> 2 times it was o.k. [05:16] <fake> the 3rd time it's /dev/discs/disc[0-4] again [05:17] <th> dont say you wont commit anything now - please. [05:18] <fake> i dont get that triple-negation [05:20] <th> wait [05:20] <th> what happens if /dev/discs/disc* does not exist? [05:20] <th> x seems to be undefined then? [05:20] <th> and then you do the x="`ls /dev/discs/ 2> /dev/null | grep -c .`" [05:20] <th> hmm [05:20] <fake> yes. that's what's checked in the last if statement [05:21] <th> it's nullglob? [05:21] <th> so.... [05:21] <th> if x is undefined [05:21] <th> you do ls in /dev/discs/ ? [05:22] <th> so when x was undefined. that means there was no disc [05:22] <th> so shouldn't it be just "0"? [05:22] <fake> or there is no disc for the device yet [05:23] <fake> so it just counts one up [05:23] <th> i just dont get it: `for x in /dev/discs/disc*` and when there was no disc* you do x=`ls /dev/discs/` [05:23] <fake> if there's nothing in /dev/discs or /dev/discs doesn't exits, this returns 0 -> /dev/discs/disc0 [05:23] <th> with grep -c .. [05:24] <th> shouldnt the ls be `ls /dev/discs/disc*` too? [05:24] <fake> if there is something in /dev/discs/disc*, but nothing describing the currently processed device, this returns the nr. of entries in the directory except . and .. [05:24] <fake> so the next index [05:25] <fake> which would show the contetns of disc0 if there is only disc0, ne? [05:25] <th> not if -d is given [05:25] <fake> whatever, that's what clifford wrote, and it *should* work [05:25] <th> but i thought there could be more entries than just discs [05:26] <fake> in /dev/discs ? [05:26] <th> hmm [05:26] <th> by label [05:26] <fake> not atm [05:26] <th> hmm ok [05:27] <fake> i got it [05:27] <fake> the problem is as follows: [05:27] <fake> this script assumes, that the 'disc' entry be written first [05:27] <fake> if not, it creates a new device. [05:27] <th> readlink $x/disc [05:27] <th> yea [05:28] <fake> *rolls eyes* [05:28] <fake> this is pretty much random. [05:28] <fake> it would suffice to just check *anything* in that directory [05:28] <fake> readling $x/`ls -1 $x/` ? [05:29] <th> not -1 [05:29] <th> head -1 [05:29] <fake> head -n1 you mean :) [05:29] <th> nono [05:29] <th> they start to support -1 again ;) [05:29] <fake> *ROFL& [05:29] <fake> you MUST be kidding me? [05:29] <th> i'm not. [05:29] <th> that's what i heared [05:30] <fake> ooooookay. hey - static /dev looks like a candidate for that trend... [05:30] <th> hehe [05:30] <fake> so, i'll do readlink $x/`head -n1 $x/*` ? [05:31] <fake> no [05:31] <fake> nono [05:31] <th> no [05:31] <th> nononon [05:31] <th> you dont want to read the contents of the block device [05:31] <fake> nono no no nono nono nono no no there's no limit... [05:31] <fake> i just realized. i need some sleep, too... [05:31] <th> ls $x/* |head -n1 [05:32] <fake> why not echo $x/* ? [05:32] <th> is okay as well [05:32] <th> no [05:32] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [05:32] <fake> and what's wrong with ls -1 ? [05:32] <th> ls introduces newlines [05:32] <th> which you need with head [05:33] <th> echo * is only whitespace separated [05:33] <fake> i c [05:33] <th> ls -1 == ls [05:33] <th> ls does some magic here [05:33] <th> it knows when you MEAN -1 [05:33] <th> like in a shell script [05:33] <fake> o_O [05:33] <th> it knows when it is outputting to a getty [05:33] <th> or tty [05:34] <fake> ls is a smart bitch [05:34] <fake> now... [05:35] <th> give me the full line again [05:35] <th> you want to add -d [05:36] <th> -d, --directory [05:36] <th> list directory entries instead of contents, and do not derefer- [05:36] <th> ence symbolic links [05:36] <th> the latter is important ;) [05:36] <fake> yes [05:36] <fake> no [05:36] <th> so the solution is lsd [05:36] <fake> this doesn't work, because: [05:36] <fake> /dev/discs/disc0//dev/discs/disc0/generic is the output [05:36] <fake> i can totally remove the beginning $x/ in the readlink call [05:37] <th> forgot the head? [05:37] <fake> this is it: [05:37] <th> readlink `ls -d /dev/discs/* |head -1` [05:37] <th> ../scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 [05:37] <fake> if readlink `ls $x/* | head -n1` " grep ... [05:37] <fake> i prefer -n1 [05:37] <fake> i hope they will support this, too [05:37] <fake> ;) [05:37] <th> i heared they want rename it to -N1 [05:38] <th> now i'm just kidding ;) [05:38] <th> let's focus [05:38] <fake> okay, now you're kidding ;) [05:38] <th> the -d is missing in the above [05:38] <th> it will dereference the symlink and show you the content of the dir [05:39] <fake> yes [05:39] <fake> i was just wondering wether there is 'head' in the initres [05:39] <fake> i was just wondering wether there is 'head' in the initrd [05:39] <th> else you can use awk for this ;) [05:39] <fake> awk is in, head is not. [05:39] <th> muahaha [05:39] <fake> *sigh* [05:40] <th> awk '{print $0; exit;}' [05:40] <fake> this SUCKS [05:41] <th> you dont need to care about -n1 -N1 -1 [05:41] <th> you never know what's the current head-trend [05:41] <fake> this script is already using awk, anyways [05:41] <th> i know [05:41] <fake> rebooting... [05:42] <th> with that ugly awk hack? [05:42] <th> r0x [05:42] <th> let's rewrite all this in SPL [05:42] <th> or mono [05:43] <fake> C++ [05:44] <fake> with XML config files [05:44] <th> could we make all this SOAP scriptable? [05:44] <fake> looking good... i'm gonna reboot a few more times [05:44] <fake> of _course_ [05:44] <th> please gimme that url [05:44] <th> script [05:44] <th> fix [05:44] <th> stuff [05:44] <fake> thingy [05:46] <fake> same location as before [05:46] <fake> i guess [05:49] <fake> perfect. [05:50] <fake> th: i'll sm send that [05:50] <fake> after i had a cigarette and your o.k. [05:50] <th> lemme see [05:51] <th> need to get networking to that vmware [05:51] <th> should be easy [05:53] <th> rebootign [05:53] <th> system is alive again [05:54] <th> looks good! [05:54] <th> it is in order without manual intervention after reboot [05:55] <th> i'd say ack. [05:55] <th> now get these patches rolling [05:55] <th> i've to be in the office in 3 hours [05:56] <fake> so i'll commit now [06:02] <fake> hrmpf [06:02] <fake> kernel update didn't apply [06:03] <th> why are you mixing so many things in? ;) [06:03] <fake> like what? [06:03] <th> kernel update? [06:03] <fake> i tested it [06:04] <th> ahhh [06:04] <th> k [06:04] <fake> as well as gcc [06:04] <fake> my god, this is s l o w [06:04] <th> it's slow so that you have more fun [06:05] <th> r7243? that's it? [06:05] <th> please let me know when your flood is finished [06:05] <fake> one more... [06:06] <fake> do you know fixdiff ? [06:06] <th> no [06:07] <fake> that's it. [06:08] <th> btw for udev.conf [06:08] <th> i'd prefer doing a cd $root/lib/udev/devices [06:08] <th> makes code MUCH MORE readable [06:08] <fake> you should try it. if a patch doesn't apply with smap <patchid> it leaves patchid.patch and tells you which file is in conflict [06:08] <fake> just run [06:08] <fake> fixdiff ed <patchid>.patch <file in conflict> [06:08] <th> i see [06:08] <fake> a split-window vim opens, and you can apply the patch by hand [06:09] <th> that was the magic blackbox [06:09] <fake> :wq -> a fixdiff_<patchid>.patch is created, a patch to the patch [06:09] <fake> then call smap <patchid> again - it will recognize the fixdiff_<patchid> file and apply it to the patch before applying the patch [06:09] <fake> it's a nice helper [06:10] <th> at least that way i wont become the svn-committer if a patch needs manual change [06:10] <fake> exactly [06:11] <fake> now go to bed ;) [06:11] <th> r7245? [06:11] <fake> ack [06:11] <th> bed? are you crazy? [06:11] <th> i better start a new build [06:12] <fake> *g* [06:12] <fake> 38 patches [06:12] <fake> we can do this ;) [06:14] <th> 36 [06:15] <fake> how did you do that? [06:15] <th> non core [06:15] <th> the hal thing [06:15] <fake> ah, no mail yet [06:15] <th> which i checked few days ago and voted contra [06:15] <th> so it got rediffed [06:16] <fake> i'm afraid 'the hal thing' will be very core soon... [06:16] <th> i WIPed the old one and applied the new [06:16] <th> so let's apply now before this happens ;) [06:16] <fake> *lol* [06:16] <fake> no asterisk work anymore today... [06:17] <th> we could put arm+fortran things in a journal [06:17] <fake> i can start a new basic build [06:17] <fake> so i'd prefer to do those [06:17] <fake> if you could run a crystal one... [06:17] <th> i'll build vanilla 7246 [06:17] <fake> okay [06:17] <th> boot,bbs,crystal [06:18] <th> perhaps even a reference for the orderings [06:18] <fake> ill build minimal&bootdisk with fortran + arm patches [06:18] <th> perhaps i've time for some installer work [06:18] <th> let's see how /dev/discs/ fix helped [06:18] <fake> i'll not have much time for the rest of the week [06:19] <fake> visitors from .de ;) [06:19] <th> well. [06:19] <th> 2 days until weekend ;) [06:19] <fake> tomorrow maybe, but i have to finish this asterisk setup, too [06:22] <th> for x in boot bbs crystal ; do ./scripts/Download -cfg $x -required ; done [06:22] <th> then Build-Target ;) [06:23] <fake> find config -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec ./scripts/Build-Target {} \; [06:23] <fake> hehe [06:23] <th> harr [06:23] <th> that would include ./config itself [06:23] <fake> streber [06:24] <fake> find config/* -maxdepth 1 -type d [06:24] <th> rock feels different these days. [06:24] <fake> it complains if -maxdepth is after -type [06:24] <th> that wont work either. [06:24] <fake> it does, i just tried ;P [06:24] <th> it complains because you can give only one starting dir [06:25] <fake> root@cruisecontrol:/home/rock/trunk# find config/* -maxdepth 1 -type d [06:25] <fake> config/base [06:25] <fake> config/bootdisk [06:25] <fake> config/moabox [06:25] <fake> config/running [06:25] <th> uhhhhhhh [06:25] <th> that's a change in find [06:25] <th> GNU find version 4.1.20 [06:25] <th> versus [06:25] <th> GNU find version 4.2.24 [06:25] <fake> right... [06:25] <fake> Features enabled: D_TYPE O_NOFOLLOW(enabled) LEAF_OPTIMISATION [06:25] <th> yea [06:26] <fake> O_NOFOLLOW(enabled) [06:26] <fake> O_NOFOLLOW(not disabled) [06:26] <fake> lol [06:26] <th> i _dont_ have the no-follow option not disabled. [06:27] <th> put that in a try { } catch NoFollowException; block if you could not follow. [06:27] <fake> *rofl* [06:27] <th> we should update mirror [06:27] <fake> ack [06:28] <fake> u know how to? [06:28] <fake> because i don't [06:28] <th> yea [06:28] <fake> tell me [06:28] <th> already doing [06:28] <th> root@phoenix:/data/rsync [06:28] <th> two scripts [06:28] <th> update.sh and ftp-update.sh [06:28] <fake> (our conversation is constantly becoming more and more adjective-less) [06:28] <fake> ajective [06:28] <fake> why 2? [06:29] <fake> update for local, ftp- for mirrors? [06:29] <th> svn and download [06:29] <fake> ah, update.sh = svn update [06:29] <th> ack [06:29] <th> and download -all [06:30] <fake> and ftp-update? [06:30] <th> 06:32:19 < th> and download -all [06:30] <th> Downloading download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2 ... [06:30] <th> ERROR: Found download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2.cksum-err. [06:30] <th> fix that! [06:30] <fake> me? [06:30] <th> yea [06:30] <fake> 2147135328 [06:31] <fake> 's what i've got [06:32] <fake> narf [06:32] <fake> 2633990629 [06:32] <fake> can you confirm 2633990629 ? [06:34] <th> just a 2nd [06:35] <th> there was a script for that [06:35] <fake> ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum [06:36] <fake> just say yes already ;) [06:37] <th> there was another script [06:37] <fake> ./scripts/Create-CksumPatch [06:37] <fake> but i already edited the file in svn [06:38] <fake> just tell me your phrackin' cksum [06:38] <th> ok [06:38] <th> bzip2 -dc download/mirror/l/linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2 |cksum [06:38] <th> 2633990629 228167680 [06:39] <fake> aye, alright [06:39] <fake> 7247 [06:40] <th> k. [06:40] <th> that's it [06:40] <th> will start build [06:40] <fake> sorry for the 'phrackin' above ;) [06:41] <fake> i'm getting really tired [06:42] <th> == 06:44:47 =[0]=> Building base/linux=linux26-header [2.6.15.6 0]. [06:42] <fake> vanilla 7247 ? [06:42] <th> if that's head. [06:42] <th> then yes. [06:42] <fake> yes. [06:46] <th> phoenix has load > 8 [06:46] <fake> why? [06:46] <th> IO [06:46] <th> much to do [06:47] <th> down to 4 [06:48] <th> oh i got quite some mails [06:50] <th> oh [06:50] <th> i think one more sm patches [06:50] <th> to be marked [06:50] <th> i manually applied them [06:50] <fake> ? [06:51] <th> mysql and sane-backends [06:51] <th> the got moved to base [06:51] <th> so i applied them manually [06:51] <th> so i now marked them as applied in sm [06:52] <th> reduces the list of open patches to 34 [06:53] <th> downloading files to master mirror [06:55] <fake> right, i was wondering [07:14] <th> master mirror is up to date [07:18] <fake> nice! [07:19] <fake> i've got all arm + fortran patches in my journal [07:23] <fake> build running - good night! [07:23] <fake> th: get some sleep somewhen... [07:26] <fake> bye! [08:10] <blindcoder> moin [08:38] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder [08:41] <stf^rocklinux> hm, how do I add a group for a package? Simply by placing groupadd in the .conf file? Or is there a special function for that? [08:43] <blindcoder> safe_groupadd and safe_useradd in postsysfiles.in [08:43] <blindcoder> see the tor/privoxy packages for examples [08:43] <blindcoder> and add the user/group to Documentation/Developers/REGISTER [08:45] <stf^rocklinux> thanks [09:20] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [09:24] <[raphael]> moin moin [09:24] <blindcoder> moin [raphael] [09:43] <blindcoder> humm [09:43] <blindcoder> since I started using bitlbee I get lots of ICQ spam >_< [09:55] ija_ (n=ija@212.80.242.77) joined #rocklinux. [09:56] <netrunner> moin [09:57] <netrunner> wow, I see people committing :) [09:59] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: nice, isn't it? :) [10:03] <blindcoder> it's scary [10:03] <blindcoder> but I guess it means i can rm -rf /home/svn/rock-community/ :) [10:09] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.180) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:12] Action: netrunner [10:12] Action: netrunner 's time for rock decreased to 0 atm :( [10:13] <th> blindcoder: i think so. but dont be sad! [10:13] <netrunner> I'm even thinking about switching to something else that is not as work-intensive. [10:14] <th> you mean to "another distro"? [10:14] <th> netrunner: perhaps you should try to be more a user and complainer. [10:15] <netrunner> th: I just feel tempted to install the debian dvd I received :) [10:17] clifford (n=clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:18] <netrunner> the killer point for rock is that I can easily update a package and install it, or add a new one [10:18] <th> yea [10:18] <netrunner> maybe just because I know how to [10:20] <blindcoder> th: I'm not [10:21] <th> cool [10:21] <blindcoder> th: I always thought rock-community would only be useful to demonstrate how slowly things are going at the moment [10:21] <blindcoder> which - in the end - probably wasn't even necessary :) [10:22] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: as th said, if something in ROCK doesn't work and you don't want to fix it yourself, complain! [10:22] <th> btw - last night i figured: the installer stinks!! [10:22] <blindcoder> heh [10:25] <stf^rocklinux> th: why? [10:28] <netrunner> what's the name of those blurred char pics? [10:29] <blindcoder> blurred char pics? [10:29] <netrunner> blindcoder: like you used for subwiki to prevent spam [10:30] <th> netrunner: captchas [10:30] <blindcoder> ah [10:30] <blindcoder> Completele Automated Process to Tell Computers and Humans Apart [10:31] <blindcoder> CAPTCHA :) [10:31] <netrunner> ah yes, thx [10:31] <th> uhh you even know the acronym [10:31] Action: blindcoder .oO( that's even better than TWAIN ) [10:31] <th> whats twain? [10:31] <blindcoder> Technology Without An Interesting Name [10:31] <blindcoder> scanners :) [10:32] <th> ahh [10:32] <th> stf^rocklinux: well... [10:34] <th> stf^rocklinux: i tried to really use it [10:34] <th> stf^rocklinux: i tried to install not from cd but from another directory [10:34] <th> no way [10:35] <th> tons of smaller things [10:35] <th> i really cant replay all this :- [10:35] <th> :-/ [10:36] <stf^rocklinux> hm, I know what you mean... It only works well for a default install [10:36] <daja77> we could use yast now that it is free [10:36] Action: daja77 hides [10:37] <th> stf^rocklinux: exactly. and i can remember that it was better [10:37] <th> some long time ago [10:38] <blindcoder> th: I installed 4 ROCK machines at CLT from NFS without a hitch [10:38] <blindcoder> well... I manually had to ifconfig lo but that's it [10:39] icelbox (i=simon@roedelkiste.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:41] <owl> moin [10:44] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [11:03] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: did you load the 2nd stage from NFS too, or packages only? [11:03] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: packages only [11:04] <th> so it's possible to select a source that is not from a device? [11:04] <blindcoder> sure [11:04] <blindcoder> everything that you can mount [11:05] <th> i wanted a simple directory [11:05] <blindcoder> --bind is your friend [11:06] <th> well i DID manage to install my packages. [11:06] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: can you use --bind in the mount options (of the stone dialog)? [11:06] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: yes [11:06] <th> but it stunk [11:07] <blindcoder> stank :) [11:20] <stf^rocklinux> th: I've tried to use a directory as source device (with --bind) in stone and it seems to work [11:33] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: could you add an example of installation from NFS to https://www.rocklinux.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Installation_using_CD&action=edit§ion=8 ? [11:35] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: please :) [11:35] <stf^rocklinux> just which mount option and source device format was used [11:36] <blindcoder> ehm... I just typed '192.168.0.1:/ROCK' into source? [11:37] <stf^rocklinux> ok, I'll add this :) [11:37] <blindcoder> oh, wait... [11:38] <blindcoder> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up && rc portmap start [11:38] <blindcoder> the first one is now in trunk, but not the latter [11:38] clifford (n=clifford@213-229-1-138.sdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:47] <th> blindcoder: i think the lo thing is obsolete with your patch applied? [11:47] <blindcoder> yes [11:48] <blindcoder> but not for CLT [11:51] <th> k [11:51] <th> i think we can release a new iso soon [11:51] <th> with the current head. [11:51] <th> where udev + pam is fixed [11:52] <blindcoder> *nod* [12:03] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [12:03] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [13:39] mnemoc_ (n=amery@user4-2.tutopia-dialup.ifxnw.cl) joined #rocklinux. [13:41] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [15:54] <blindcoder> okay, who's gonna tackle the gnome update? [15:57] Action: daja77 hide [15:57] <daja77> s [16:02] <blindcoder> hehe [16:03] <th> gnome? i thought we dropped that? [16:03] <th> *jk* [16:03] <th> damn - am i still awake? [16:04] <blindcoder> still awake o_O [16:04] <blindcoder> it's 4 PM... [16:04] <th> yea [16:04] <_BoS_> coffee/tee time [16:05] <th> uptime is 32 hours now. [16:05] <daja77> darn I need a faster laptop [16:05] <blindcoder> uptime feels like 96 hours here [16:06] <blindcoder> I'm almost fallign asleep at the keyboard here [16:06] <th> you should stick to more interesting things [16:06] <daja77> th.sleep(43200); [16:06] <blindcoder> th: is that a job offer? :) [16:07] <th> daja77: alluring. [16:07] <th> blindcoder: only if you're cheap [16:07] <th> ;) [16:07] Action: blindcoder quickly calculates his current per hour salary... [16:07] <blindcoder> ehm... hardly [16:07] <_BoS_> and? [16:09] <blindcoder> hardly cheap [16:10] <_BoS_> whit a lot of mony for this time :) [16:15] <blindcoder> anyway, kendo time [16:15] <blindcoder> let's hope I don't fall asleep during a fight... [16:15] <blindcoder> bye [16:15] <_BoS_> cu [16:24] <fake> moin [16:24] <daja77> hi fake [16:29] <fake> fortran + arm patches are good [16:43] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-048-112.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:50] <th> 335 builds total, 206 completed fine, 0 with errors. [16:56] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-048-209.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [17:06] <fake> argh [17:06] <fake> the initrd *must* be re-created on install [17:07] <fake> othwerise the build-time /etc/fstab (which has /dev/root as root-device) will be in there [17:07] <daja77_> .oO (graphical debugging helps ..) [17:09] <th> fake: btw - i know you'll hate me. but i think the scsi-devfs script still has issues [17:10] <fake> th: namely? [17:10] <th> fake: load shot1.png [17:11] <fake> th: that is an older version! [17:11] <th> sure? [17:11] <fake> th: no, i will not believe this. [17:11] <fake> th: i reject this. [17:11] <th> 1742158024 2104 scsi-devfs.sh [17:11] <fake> th: never show me such evil pictures again, you pervert! [17:12] <fake> damn, it's correct [17:12] <fake> how can that happen? [17:28] <th> i was too tired to know an answer yesterday. [17:28] <th> actually it was today [17:28] <th> and actually i'm not much more awake right now. [17:31] <fake> th: didn't sleep yet?? [17:31] <th> nope [17:32] <fake> th: you should - it makes things easier... [17:33] <th> i've some low level stuff to take care of here... my constitution is okay for this. [17:52] <fake> hm... [17:53] <fake> 1und <-> inode peering problems [17:57] <fake> damn [17:58] <fake> who can reach www.1und1.com ? [17:58] <th> PING www.1und1.com (195.20.224.89): 56 octets data [17:58] <th> 64 octets from 195.20.224.89: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=31.2 ms [17:58] <fake> th: lucky you [17:59] <th> need ssh forwarding? [18:00] <fake> no, i'm relaying via my dsl box in ingolstadt now [18:01] <fake> my nagios is going weee ;) [18:48] <th> ok. mod_grub needs to be fixed to support more than ext2 [18:48] <th> perhaps something like looking which fs currently provides / [18:48] <th> but i'd prefer to just put more modules in [18:56] Action: stf^rocklinux still uses lilo... [18:56] <stf^rocklinux> because I never got grub 1.9 to work [18:58] <th> well it works here [19:01] <fake> stf^rocklinux : can you coimment on 2006031603121420337 please? [19:01] <fake> haha [19:02] <fake> tracerouting to www.1und1.com switches between cogent and cix all the time [19:03] <fake> th: can you look up some technical hotline at 1und1.com for me? [19:04] <th> sure [19:04] <th> server housing? [19:04] <fake> th: a non 0900-one, preferrably ;) [19:04] <fake> hosting [19:04] <fake> root-server [19:05] <stf^rocklinux> fake: as the comment says, that were duplicate directories which are removed [19:05] <th> Aus Deutschland: [19:05] <th> 01805 / 00 64 75 [19:05] <th> (12 Cent/Min.) 24h/7 Tage [19:05] <th> Aus Österreich: [19:05] <th> 0900 / 0 0 0 1 1 1 [19:05] <th> (18,2 Cent/Min.) 24h/7 Tage [19:05] <fake> stf^rocklinux it removed /var/opt/apache/lib/htdocs !! [19:06] <fake> grnl... [19:06] <th> btw that prefix must die! [19:06] <fake> damn them [19:06] <fake> th: ack [19:06] <fake> nontheless, i would really like to have any $DoucmentRoot after installing apache ;) [19:07] <th> get your own content! [19:07] <th> k relocating office-> home [19:07] <fake> i am mirroring the apache default page for a living! [19:07] <fake> ;-) [19:07] <th> heh [19:07] <fake> th: get sleep! [19:08] <th> fake: aye [19:08] <th> 335 builds total, 239 completed fine, 0 with errors. [19:08] <th> that's the vanilla crystal [19:10] <fake> nice! [19:12] <mnemoc> which arch? [19:13] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i still don't get which duplicate files you mean [19:14] <stf^rocklinux> I built apache and checked the flist, and had those directories twice... [19:14] <fake> stf^rocklinux: you mean, the same directory was in the flist twice? [19:14] <stf^rocklinux> the same files in different directories [19:15] <fake> stf^rocklinux: let me check my flist... [19:15] <fake> stf^rocklinux: if i don't have double files, is it okay to remove these lines? [19:15] <stf^rocklinux> sure [19:16] <fake> great :) [19:16] <fake> ( i svn blamed those lines, that's why i ask ) [19:16] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, I hardly remembered writing that... [19:18] <stf^rocklinux> and I didn't think about the evils of rm in .conf files at that time :S [19:18] <fake> no problem ;) [19:19] <fake> i noticed before something evil happened. [19:20] <fake> nope, no duplicate files here [19:26] <stf^rocklinux> I know I checked at least twice before sending the patch [19:28] <mnemoc> .oO [19:29] <fake> stf^rocklinux: maybe an apache update fixed it [19:30] <stf^rocklinux> fake: yes [19:31] <[raphael]> I have a bug report for ya [19:31] <[raphael]> or.... let's see, I think I could just provide a patch as well [19:36] <[raphael]> th: ping [19:37] <[raphael]> or anyone else: do you know if the iso built by th will be uploaded and available anywhere? [19:38] <fake> seems they've fixed that peering [19:39] <fake> [raphael]: that is for th to decide [19:39] <[raphael]> ok, I thought maybe he already decided and you happen to know it [19:39] <fake> he was talking about doing a release sometime soon [19:40] <fake> not sure wether he ment the current journal, either [20:13] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:14] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:44] <[raphael]> anyone wants to listen to a bug report? [20:45] <[raphael]> or... (maybe I missed it) do you have a bug tracking system actually? [20:45] <[raphael]> the problem is that some packages install headers into /usr/include that are only readable by root [20:45] <[raphael]> which is not very helpful [20:46] <[raphael]> and sometimes this even breaks compiling 3rd party software on a ROCK box [20:47] <[raphael]> subversion is doing this right now with installing all those apr_* includes with 600 [20:47] <[raphael]> but since this is the second package I found I wonder whether installing files into /usr/include could automatically be sanity checked [20:47] <[raphael]> in some post-install hook [20:48] <[raphael]> and the good thing is that the installed files in /usr/include are known because of the flists [20:50] <fake> [raphael]: which package does this? [20:50] <[raphael]> so please, do sth about it (oh, I know I know, I could do sth myself, but at the moment I consider myself (every now and then) as a pure user of ROCK, and I don't know that part of the build system that well) [20:50] <[raphael]> fake: subversion:dev at the moment [20:50] <[raphael]> another one I fixed a two or three months ago [20:50] <fake> [raphael]: installing header files 600 is not a build system, but a package problem, usually [20:50] <[raphael]> might be, so the subversion devs are to blame [20:51] <fake> usr/include/subversion-1/svn_xml.h for example?\ [20:51] <fake> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11535 2006-03-14 00:32 /usr/include/subversion-1/svn_xml.h [20:51] <[raphael]> anyway, the outcome is wrong, so at least sth needs to be done, whether it's the ROCK build system or the svn devs [20:51] <[raphael]> ls -l /usr/include/apr* [20:51] <fake> that's apache, not subversion :) [20:51] <[raphael]> they appear in the subversion:dev flist [20:52] <fake> and you probably mean /opt/apache/include/ * ? [20:52] <[raphael]> no [20:52] <[raphael]> /usr/include/apr* [20:52] <fake> not in my subversion\:dev, version 1.3.0 ? [20:53] <[raphael]> it's also 1.3.0 here [20:53] <fake> subversion should not install any apr headers [20:53] <fake> can give me an example filename of one of the files so i can grep my flists ? [20:53] <[raphael]> :/var/adm/flists$ grep apr_time.h * [20:53] <[raphael]> subversion:dev:subversion:dev: usr/include/apr_time.h [20:53] <fake> can *you [20:54] <fake> root@cruisecontrol:/var/adm/flists# grep apr_time\.h * [20:54] <fake> apache:apr:apache:apr: opt/apache/include/apr_time.h [20:54] <[raphael]> aha, funny thing, indeed :) [20:54] <fake> do you have apache apr installed ? [20:54] <[raphael]> ah, ok, all this might take longer, I am really about to leave the computer for today [20:54] <[raphael]> but I'll be around tomorrow morning [20:55] <fake> we'll see whats wrong then :) [20:55] <[raphael]> I don't have apache installed [20:55] <fake> subversion requires apache ... [20:55] <[raphael]> well, maybe that's the reason that subversion actually installs those headers, since apache has NOT installed them [20:55] <fake> very well possible [20:56] <[raphael]> uhm... apache is not installed here [20:56] <[raphael]> $ mine -d subversion [20:56] <[raphael]> gives a long list, but apache is not included [20:57] <[raphael]> alright, I'll be here tomorrow morning, I'll be available for bughunting [20:57] <[raphael]> but not doing much myself, just answering questions for now (not much time available these days) [20:57] <[raphael]> good night all [21:03] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [21:03] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:59] <th> i can upload that tomorrow [22:32] <daja77_> are you still up? [22:40] <fake> *shakes head* [22:46] <fake> club mate is 3v1l [22:47] <owl> why is it? [22:53] <fake> it made th a zombie [22:53] <fake> *become a .. [22:58] <owl> zombie... hrm. .oO( did i ever consume club mate? i don't think so hrm. ) [00:00] --- Fri Mar 17 2006