[00:15] <ringo> hi madtux !
[00:16] <ringo> sorry for the late response ... 
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[01:26] <madtux> Welcome duck_chris 
[01:26] <duck_chris> :-D
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[06:40] <blindcoder> moin
[07:28] <_BoS_> moin
[08:22] <netrunner> moin
[08:25] <[raphael]> moin
[08:28] <blindcoder> >_<
[08:29] Action: blindcoder just read linux/Documentation/filesystems/ramfs*initramfs.txt
[08:29] <blindcoder> is it really just me or does Linux do quantum leaps _backwards_ in usability?
[09:36] <mnemoc> *ACK*
[09:36] <blindcoder> thanks
[09:37] <blindcoder> I was already thinking that I'm going nuts
[09:37] <mnemoc> :)
[09:37] <mnemoc> they are
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[10:12] <th> good that i've decided to do a rebuild-stage...
[10:13] <th> kdepim fails if the etc/env directory already exists.
[10:13] <th> hotfixing this with giving "-p" to mkdir
[10:13] <th> 633 builds total, 618 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[10:23] <netrunner> crystal?
[10:24] <th> yes
[10:24] <th> with current journal
[10:24] <th> and two hotfixes
[10:24] <th> the one i just mentioned
[10:24] <th> and one caused by devfs removal (alsa tried to put something in etc/devfs.d)
[10:27] <owl> moin
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[12:18] <netrunner> why does this not work? http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/22/22296/1.html
[12:18] <netrunner> argl.
[12:19] <netrunner> I mean var_remove confopt " " "--enable-libpam"
[12:19] <netrunner> aah, it is in extraconfopt.
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[13:02] <clifford> daja77_: https://www.rocklinux.net/smng_test/index.websplb?filter_status=O&filter_search=SECURITY
[13:03] <daja77_> nice
[13:03] <clifford> .. you are the sucurity team. maybe its time to use your priveligdes to apply this stuff and write security advisories?
[13:03] <daja77_> do i have a login there?
[13:04] <daja77_> just trying
[13:04] <th> daja77_: it's your sm account
[13:04] <clifford> yes - but it is still in testing and I'm re-importing the stuff from old sm regulary, flushing all changes done in smng_test
[13:05] <daja77_> ok i logged in but i don't find an apply button
[13:05] <clifford> but you can also go to https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?a=list and search for 'SECURITY' with your browsers search function.
[13:05] <clifford> you can't apply it there.
[13:05] <clifford> You can apply it in subversion.
[13:06] <clifford> You have write permissions to the repository
[13:06] <daja77_> ah ok so i need a svn co too, checking out 
[13:12] <daja77_> th: sry i am a bit out of sync, i need to co with the username via https, right?
[13:21] <th> daja77_: it's a webinterface
[13:21] <th> daja77_: like the submaster one
[13:21] <th> ahhh
[13:21] <th> i'm distracted.
[13:21] <th> ignore what i said - i did not read all
[13:24] <daja77_> my svn just told me that it has no ssl support, that's why I am asking
[13:35] <th> rebuild openssl+neon+subversion
[13:36] <th> daja77_: if you want me to JUST APPLY a single smpatch
[13:36] <th> daja77_: then you can just tell me the smid and i'll commit it blindly
[13:36] <th> like in your name
[13:36] <th> if that helps
[13:37] <daja77_> well i need ssl in svn sooner or later anyway
[14:04] <daja77_> hm shared files between neon and subversion
[14:05] <th> where?
[14:05] <daja77_> man pages
[14:07] <th> which build?
[14:07] <daja77_> using Build-Pkg on my host
[14:07] <th> ahh ok
[14:07] <th> just mine -r neomn
[14:07] <th> just mine -r neon
[14:07] <th> and subversion ;)
[14:07] <th> Error logs from crystal-TRUNK-x86-pentium2-32-crystal-expert:
[14:07] <th> 633 builds total, 633 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[14:08] <daja77_> :)
[14:09] <th> my journal + two minor hotfixes
[14:09] <th> that is with kde in /usr
[14:10] <th> so i expect some desktop-file issues as posted by stf on the mailing list
[14:11] <th> iso-upload in progres
[14:11] <daja77_> nice
[14:11] <th> 2MBit only - will take some time.
[14:19] <daja77_> co in progress
[14:30] <th> New Revision: 7259
[14:30] <th> cool
[14:30] <daja77_> ok i committed these patches, how can i flag them as applied?
[14:30] <th> did you use svn directly?
[14:30] <daja77_> yes
[14:30] <daja77_> smap in svn
[14:30] <th> then you can mark them in the sm webinterface
[14:31] <daja77_> i have no button for it there
[14:31] <th> smap in svn with the correct settings marks them as applied in sm automatically
[14:31] <th> then you need to ask cliff to make you sm admin
[14:31] <th> or i can mark them as applied
[14:31] <th> lemme do that for the two patches
[14:31] <daja77_> yes
[14:32] <th> done
[14:32] <daja77_> thx
[14:34] <th> if you need this again. just pm me. my latency on irc is not that bad.
[14:35] <daja77_> ok but i should bug clifford anyway ;)
[14:36] <th> yea
[14:36] <th> but
[14:36] <th> well - perhaps it's ok to wait for smng
[14:37] <daja77_> np
[14:38] <th> ahh bbsboot is pretty big - i'm afraid it includes tar's and gems'
[14:39] <th> there is no sense in having them both on cd
[14:39] <th> gems on cd and tar's alone
[14:39] <daja77_> indeed
[14:39] <th> can i make Create-ISO not to include the tar's?
[14:40] <daja77_> dunno, never had both types of packages
[14:42] <clifford> daja77_: according to our ''P'' thingy (I'm not writing the word out here ;-) you are supposed to write a security advisory now.
[14:43] <blindcoder> aaah, the evil word
[14:43] <daja77_> clifford: ok and where to?
[14:43] <th> rock-users for a start?
[14:44] <netrunner> why is linux24-header splitted as :dev?
[14:44] <daja77_> where can I read that P thingie btw
[14:44] <clifford> I'd say rock-users is ok.
[14:45] <clifford> daja77_: I think we don't have a written version of the current P thingie.
[14:45] <daja77_> oh ic
[14:46] <clifford> Documentation/Developers/POLICY is from 2003 ..
[14:46] <clifford> .. and pretty outdated.
[14:47] <daja77_> so only to rock-user?
[14:47] <clifford> I'd say for now it is most important that we do realease security advisories.
[14:47] <clifford> Its not that important how we do it atm.
[14:49] <blindcoder> bury them somewhere in the wiki *eg*
[14:49] <daja77_> no
[14:49] <daja77_> the question is if i should cross-post them to rock-dev
[14:49] <daja77_> hm but i could create a wiki page linking to the advisory mails
[14:50] <th> anyone knows how to create an ISO excluding tar.bz2 packages?
[14:51] <clifford> th: move the *.tar.bz2 files to a different directory, e.g.
[14:51] <th> hmm that would be too easy
[14:53] <clifford> ok. then create an extra dir for the gems, create hardlinks for the gems in this extra dir and patch isofs.txt
[14:54] <clifford> is that complicated enough?
[14:54] <clifford> (that's what the crystal target is doing because not all gems from crystal should go to the cd image)
[14:55] <th> sounds nice.
[15:00] <daja77_> sent
[15:05] Action: daja77_ waiting to be flamed
[15:09] <netrunner> some structure would be nice.
[15:11] <blindcoder> indeed
[15:12] Action: daja77_ adopting the suse structure
[15:13] <blindcoder> good idea
[15:14] <daja77_> do we want to have announcement ids?
[15:15] <daja77_> sth like RL-2006-03-21-01 ?
[15:15] <daja77_> or perhaps shorter
[15:15] <daja77_> RL-20060321-01
[15:15] <daja77_> would be nice as reference on the wiki too
[15:16] <blindcoder> hmm
[15:16] <blindcoder> RL-Crystal- ?
[15:17] <daja77_> the id would just state that it is one of our announcements, it should be in the announcement which sub distros, targets or whatever are affected
[15:18] <blindcoder> okay
[15:24] <netrunner> I don't think there would be an announcement that only affects crystal and not generic
[15:25] <netrunner> and all generic issues also affect crystal since you can use rock-src to build packages of generic not included in crystal
[15:25] <th> 237M for a bbs bootable cd is still pretty big
[15:29] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[15:29] <stf^rocklinux> th: your last bbs iso was that size, too...
[15:34] <stf^rocklinux> th: there's not much to take away from it, though
[15:36] <th> stf^rocklinux: ok. perhaps i was only scared by the old size when i had the tars in by accident
[15:37] <stf^rocklinux> th: there was a bug in my mkinitrd patch, making it unusable for cross-builds
[15:37] <stf^rocklinux> th: I'll send a new patch for it today
[15:37] Action: daja77_ checking the wiki for spam
[15:38] <th> stf^rocklinux: please make sure that it will be in my next journal
[15:38] <th> stf^rocklinux: i'll announce my journal here - as usual
[15:39] <stf^rocklinux> th: ok. With it I could successfully create a initrd for QEMUs ARM emulation, and the kernel I build with ROCK boots as well :)
[15:42] <stf^rocklinux> I've tried creating an initrd and bootable kernel for other QEMU system emulations too, but so far I've got only x86 to work ...
[15:43] <stf^rocklinux> Booting x86 kernel and initrd on x86_64 also works ^^
[15:46] <th> crystal iso will be up in < 10minutes
[15:54] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[15:54] Topic changed on #rocklinux by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de: http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/test-releases/ +++ please test 20060321-crystal_cd1.iso now!
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[16:32] <th> bbs iso and tar packages is available as well now.
[16:32] <th> url is in topic
[16:37] <daja77_> template sent
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[16:52] <daja77> >_<
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[16:58] <netrunner> I like the template, just the contained texts need some toughts.
[16:58] <netrunner> thoughts
[16:58] <netrunner> e.g. if we tell to sm sync, this means the patch is already in trunk. what if we know about a security issue, but the patch is still in submaster?
[17:00] <daja77> netrunner: i'll commit security patches into trunk
[17:01] <daja77> if there is an issue pending because of problems, the advisory would of course not state to do sm sync in that case
[17:01] <netrunner> ah ok.
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[17:51] <blindcoder> re
[17:52] <stf^rocklinux> wb
[17:55] <blindcoder> HAH!
[17:55] <blindcoder> got my free harddisk space back
[17:55] <blindcoder> fsck sometimes works miracles :)
[17:56] <daja77> .oO (even when you don't write it with s)
[17:56] Action: daja77 hides
[17:57] <blindcoder> hehe
[18:20] <th> harr
[18:37] <netrunner> http://www.sandmonkey.org/2006/03/19/swastikas-are-trendy-in-cairo/
[18:48] <fake> moin
[18:49] <blindcoder> moin fake 
[18:53] <fake> th: how's your journal ?
[18:53] <fake> th: i will start a new build now
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[19:38] <th> fake: if you would wait a little test...
[19:38] <fake> th: np
[19:39] <th> fake: how now is your now?
[19:39] <fake> th: tonight
[19:39] <th> fake: the iso (see $topic) just arrived here for a test-install
[19:40] <fake> d/l running
[19:40] <fake> ~40 min
[20:19] <owl> hi fake 
[20:19] <fake> hi owl
[20:19] <fake> damn!
[20:19] <th> fake: perhaps you could try a journal with all these avm patches
[20:19] <fake> how can i actually do anything with the return value of an asterisk 'application' ?
[20:19] <th> or are they mostly public?
[20:20] <fake> th: some of them affect personal pkgs from other people
[20:20] <th> so we should give them a grace period of 14 days i think
[20:21] <th> i think we should wait for current test results
[20:21] <th> there might be some work regarding kde prefix change
[20:22] <th> fake: perhaps you could try the gcc4 change?
[20:22] <th> or start small with kernel update? ;)
[20:23] <fake> th: both
[20:23] <th> brave
[20:23] <fake> th: that's nice, as a basic build will suffice 
[20:23] <th> basic==bbs?
[20:23] <fake> noe, minimal
[20:23] <th> or minimal?
[20:23] <fake> -e
[20:23] <th> that suffices for gcc4 change?
[20:23] <th> i doubt that
[20:24] <fake> in my opinion, yes *g*
[20:24] <th> might cause regressions with core packages not in minimal
[20:24] <fake> let's put it this way: if not even a minimal system works, we can skip the big builds
[20:26] <th> yea - a successfull minimal build is required. but not sufficient as a journal test
[20:26] <fake> i agree.
[20:36] <th> current crystal has qt33 AND qt40
[20:36] <th> do we want this?
[20:37] <blindcoder> dbus needs qt40
[20:38] <th> ahh i see
[20:39] <th> i hope it does not need it for the user interface?
[20:41] <blindcoder> no idea, netrunner knows about it
[20:44] <th> can't create locak file /etc/mtab~9615 - read only filesystem
[20:44] <th> thats when i reboot after installing
[20:44] <th> i guess some umount needs the -n flag
[20:48] <daja77> hm no comments
[20:49] <blindcoder> daja77: be patient, they'll come in like water into the desert
[20:49] <blindcoder> rarely, but steadily :)
[20:49] <daja77> :)
[20:49] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder, th: dbus uses qt40 by default, but can use qt33 as well afaik
[20:49] <daja77> just like to do the second announcement this way
[20:50] <blindcoder> daja77: what do you mean with 'cross references'?
[20:50] <th> hmmmmm
[20:50] <th> the shipped initrd.img still does not work
[20:51] <th> first it complains /sbin/init: line {63,68} {/etc/conf/kernel,/dev/fd/62}: No such file or directory
[20:51] <th> then about missing /etc/dm/mounts
[20:51] <blindcoder> humm
[20:51] <th> then it tries to mount the root (from what it found in the fstab)
[20:51] <th> and fails to find that device
[20:51] <stf^rocklinux> th: my mkinitrd patch is buggy
[20:51] <blindcoder> I thought I fixed that latter one
[20:51] <th> but the "dumping into emergency shell" just works
[20:51] <blindcoder> :)
[20:52] <stf^rocklinux> th: but i've fixed it in the meantime
[20:52] <th> and i get a broken pipe for the find /sys -name uevent ...
[20:52] <blindcoder> th: that's why it's an "emergency" :)
[20:52] <daja77> blindcoder: this is for security ids from other organizations, usually the ones who discovered the bug
[20:52] Action: blindcoder wonders why suddenly everyone hacks around in the initrd...
[20:52] <th> blindcoder: it did not work before because of missing libdl
[20:52] <blindcoder> daja77: ah, okay
[20:52] <daja77> like
[20:52] <daja77> Cross-References:       CVE-2006-0745
[20:53] <blindcoder> th: then just call it post installation and it will... I still don't see a problem
[20:53] <blindcoder> daja77: I see
[20:53] <daja77> just copied that from suse
[20:53] <th> blindcoder: it is a problem as long as one has to call mkinitrd manually in post installation
[20:53] <blindcoder> th: postinstall hook?
[20:53] <th> i just followed the instructions
[20:53] <blindcoder> th: we already do this for ssh
[20:54] <th> blindcoder: could you add a patch?
[20:54] <blindcoder> th: to create the sshd keys
[20:54] <blindcoder> th: I can't test it
[20:54] <blindcoder> at lesat not in a reasonable timeframe
[20:55] <blindcoder> th: besides, didn't fake create a postinstall script already for rockinitrd?
[20:55] <stf^rocklinux> th: if you used my mkinitrd patch then the resulting initrd will be incomplete
[20:56] <th> stf^rocklinux: so did i?
[20:56] <stf^rocklinux> th: I thought you said so
[20:56] <stf^rocklinux> th: when you started the build
[20:57] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/2006-03-19-journal.txt
[20:57] <th> what would i need to rebuild, to create a new iso?
[20:59] <stf^rocklinux> rockinitrd should be enough if mkinitrd is called in stone setup
[20:59] <blindcoder> th: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2006/03/1618512808515.patch
[20:59] <blindcoder> th: that one should fix the libdl problem
[20:59] <th> blindcoder: yea
[20:59] <blindcoder> th: 2006031618512808515
[20:59] <th> blindcoder: i have that. and the libdl problem is gone
[21:00] <blindcoder> th: good, problem solved :)
[21:00] <th> blindcoder: no.
[21:00] <th> blindcoder: you dont listen.
[21:00] <blindcoder> I do listen
[21:00] <blindcoder> I just don't understand
[21:00] <th> blindcoder: it's not the libdl problem any longer
[21:00] <stf^rocklinux> th: I think your initrd misses the files from /lib/udev/devices ...
[21:00] <th> i do have a bash
[21:00] <th> stf^rocklinux: that sounds reasonable
[21:00] <th> stf^rocklinux: /dev/fd...
[21:01] <th> /lib/udev/devices/ only has the shm and pts dirs
[21:02] <stf^rocklinux> th: the other files were not copied because they are special files (symlinks, etc.)
[21:02] <th> oh - how smart is that?
[21:02] <stf^rocklinux> I've fixed mkinitrd here already
[21:02] <th> oh ok
[21:02] <th> that was introduced by you patch, right?
[21:02] <stf^rocklinux> also makes the .empty file hack obsolete
[21:03] <stf^rocklinux> th: I think so
[21:03] <th> ok - so when is that initrd built?
[21:04] <blindcoder> with fakes patch, post installation
[21:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: you mean linux26: boot/initrd.img?
[21:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: somewhere in linux.conf...
[21:04] <th> how can it be linux26, if it contains our /sbin/init?
[21:05] <th> ahh ok
[21:05] <blindcoder> linux26 creates an boot/initrd.img compile time
[21:05] <blindcoder> and the postinstall script overwrites it runtime
[21:06] <th> so my current initrd (see journal) is an overwritten one?
[21:06] <blindcoder> this is so that a known-to-work initrd with current configuration is always present for new kernel version
[21:06] <th> or are you talking of another patch, that's not in yet?
[21:06] <th> (in as in "in my journal")
[21:07] <blindcoder> with fakes patch, yes, it will be overwritten postinstall
[21:07] <blindcoder> yes, it's already in
[21:07] <blindcoder> 2006031618512808515
[21:09] <th> blindcoder: well so i have a postinstall version. and it's still broken. so that's because of stf's patch and has nothing to do with fake's patch.
[21:09] <blindcoder> probably. I haven't had time to study each initrd patch closely
[21:09] <blindcoder> the postinstall version fixes the libdl thing
[21:10] <blindcoder> and at least the one I have running still creates the /dev/fd symlink
[21:10] <blindcoder> the one in trunk doesn't anymore
[21:10] <blindcoder> and relies on /lib/udev/devices/fd to be present
[21:10] <blindcoder> which it seems not to be
[21:13] <th> if we do it postinstall - so we can remove all mkinitrd relevant stuff from linux.conf?
[21:14] <blindcoder> no
[21:14] <blindcoder> we still need a file to look at to decide if we need to recreate a new initrd or not
[21:14] <blindcoder> currently that's boot/initrd.img
[21:15] <blindcoder> which comes from linux26
[21:16] <stf^rocklinux> System.map and /lib/modules would be good triggers to
[21:17] <blindcoder> suggest it to fake
[21:17] <blindcoder> it's his patch after all
[21:18] <blindcoder> lib modules probably won't work
[21:18] <blindcoder> and I'm unfamiliar with system.map
[21:18] <blindcoder> it's just a symlink isn't it?
[21:19] <stf^rocklinux> yes
[21:20] <blindcoder> sounds good
[21:20] <blindcoder> even more so as initrd.img probably won't get overwritten anyway
[21:20] <blindcoder> since its checksum will have changed
[21:23] <th> ( i just want to reduce unused sleeping code )
[21:23] <blindcoder> how about getting stuff working first?
[21:24] <th> i'd prefer getting stuff working first.
[21:24] <th> i was only asking that question to clarify things and give us a reminder for later
[21:24] <blindcoder> good :)
[21:25] <th> can i recreate the initrd from the emergency shell?
[21:25] <blindcoder> hardly
[21:26] <blindcoder> hmm
[21:26] <blindcoder> no
[21:26] <blindcoder> you should now have a bash with pid 1
[21:27] <th> ack
[21:27] <th> i do
[21:27] <th> well ok - i can reboot with install cd again
[21:27] <blindcoder> you can just boot without initrd
[21:28] <th> hmmmmmmm
[21:29] <th> i think i'll get initrd working first.
[21:29] <blindcoder> well, I don't know who removed the creation of the /data/fd symlink out of initrd
[21:29] <blindcoder> ask that person to fix it
[21:30] <th> we dont need it if we get it from /lib/udev/device
[21:30] <th> s
[21:30] <th> we dont need two solutions for one mechanism
[21:31] <blindcoder> well, obviously we don't get it from there for one reason or another
[21:32] <th> yea that's because stf's patch was unfinished, if i understood that right
[21:32] <th> stf?
[21:33] <stf^rocklinux> th: that's right
[21:34] <th> ahh and current `mkinitrd` does fail with syntax error
[21:34] <th> ok - i think i need your fix now, stf
[21:35] <stf^rocklinux> th: mom
[21:36] <th> done < <( mount ) | sort | uniq >/etc/conf/initrd/initrd_fsck
[21:36] <th> that's a simple syntax error and can be resolved by s/< // ?
[21:37] <blindcoder> no
[21:37] <blindcoder> that's not a syntax error
[21:37] <blindcoder> which line?
[21:38] <th> 78
[21:38] <blindcoder> and file?
[21:38] <th> /sbin/mkinitrd
[21:38] <blindcoder>                 [ -f $file ] || continue
[21:38] <blindcoder> that's line 78 here
[21:38] <th> well you need to apply stf's broken patch i think
[21:39] <blindcoder> hmm
[21:39] <blindcoder> at least it's no syntax error
[21:39] <blindcoder> that's valid syntax
[21:39] <th> but my bash tells me: checking necessary fsck programs ... //sbin/mkinitrd: line 78: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[21:39] <blindcoder> done < <( mount ) | sort | uniq >/etc/conf/initrd/initrd_fsck
[21:39] <blindcoder> line 49 here
[21:39] <stf^rocklinux> th: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2006032121380929687
[21:40] <blindcoder> th: that while loop works if I run it on an interactive shell by copy and paste
[21:41] <th> stf^rocklinux: so what was the issue with that while .. <( mount) ?
[21:42] <th> -.  [ -e "/sbin/fsck.${fs}" ] && echo "/sbin/fsck.${fs} /sbin/fsck.${fs}"
[21:42] <th> +.  [ -e "${rootdir}/sbin/fsck.${fs}" ] && echo "/sbin/fsck.${fs} /sbin/fsck.${fs}"
[21:42] <th> hmm
[21:42] <stf^rocklinux> th: that while loop is one of the few lines that I haven't really changed
[21:42] <th> yea
[21:43] <th> i'd love to understand why i get a syntax error here
[21:43] <stf^rocklinux> th: $rootdir="" unless you explicitly set it...
[21:43] <stf^rocklinux> what error message?
[21:43] <th> 21:42:00 < th> but my bash tells me: checking necessary fsck programs ... //sbin/mkinitrd: line 78: 
[21:43] <th>                syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[21:44] <blindcoder> th: do you by any chance run the mkinitrd with "sh mkinitrd"?
[21:44] <th> the $rootdir="" should do no harm
[21:45] <th> DAMN
[21:45] <th> the first line is broken
[21:45] <th> first line reads:
[21:45] <blindcoder> or is your /bin/bash no real bash?
[21:45] <th> # #!/bin/bash
[21:45] <blindcoder> well, yes
[21:45] <blindcoder> of course
[21:45] <blindcoder> what else?
[21:45] <th> but my shell is a real bash
[21:45] <th> so it should be bash parsed
[21:45] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: #!/bin/bash
[21:46] <blindcoder> #!/bin/bash
[21:46] <blindcoder> that's what it reads here
[21:46] <th> but the problem vanishes if i fix the first line!
[21:46] <th> the first line was broken
[21:46] <stf^rocklinux> lol
[21:46] <blindcoder> th: but why?
[21:46] <th> now this gets interesting
[21:46] <th> good question
[21:46] <blindcoder> it isn't here if I apply stfs patch
[21:47] <th> it's broken as well in my build/crystal-TRUNK-x86-pentium2-32-crystal-expert directory on the build machine
[21:47] <th> let's do a big `svn diff`
[21:47] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I've fixed the first line in my latest patch, btw. my old patch is still in SM
[21:47] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: id?
[21:47] <stf^rocklinux> while read dev a mnt b fs c ; do
[21:47] <stf^rocklinux> 	[ -e "${rootdir}/sbin/fsck.${fs}" ] && echo "/sbin/fsck.${fs} /sbin/fsck.${fs}"
[21:47] <stf^rocklinux> done < <( mount ) | sort | uniq >/etc/conf/initrd/initrd_fsck
[21:47] <th> stf^rocklinux: you KNOW that "first-line-bug"?
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[21:48] <stf^rocklinux> th: I though it's not a problem, just stumbled over it...
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[21:48] <stf^rocklinux> th: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2006032121380929687
[21:48] <stf^rocklinux> id: 2006032121380929687
[21:49] <blindcoder> 2006031919444902232
[21:49] <blindcoder> there it's in :)
[21:50] <blindcoder> hmm
[21:50] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: hope you don't mind me reworking half of that patch after it's applied?
[21:50] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: silly typo ^^
[21:51] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: do as you like :)
[21:51] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: any special reason for reworking the patch?
[21:52] <blindcoder>  modprobeopt=`echo $kernel | sed '/2.4/ { s,.*,-n,; q; }; s,.*,--show-depends,'`
[21:52] <blindcoder> that's the first
[21:54] <blindcoder> functions defined mid-script is the next
[21:54] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/2006-03-19-journal.patch
[21:54] <th> that's the current build
[21:54] <th> agains r7267
[21:54] <th> stop
[21:55] <th> against r7257
[21:55] <blindcoder> for f in `find $file` ; do
[21:55] <blindcoder> what the?
[21:56] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: this handles files and directories in one loop ;)
[21:56] <th> stf^rocklinux: was that the wrong patch id? where is the fix for the 1st line in 2006032121380929687?
[21:56] <stf^rocklinux> btw. empty directories are copied now
[21:56] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: what about files with spaces in them?
[21:57] <stf^rocklinux> th: no, I introduced that bug in my first patch
[21:57] Action: netrunner becoming ill :(
[21:57] <th> stf^rocklinux: your first patch being 2006032121380929687?
[21:57] <th> -#!/bin/bash
[21:57] <th> +# #!/bin/bash
[21:57] <th> that's 2006031919444902232
[21:58] <th> ok - i just hotfix the first line
[21:58] <th> then i fix it in my test-install
[21:58] <th> and call mkinitrd after install
[21:58] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: still won't work (since we read from a whitespace seperated list)
[21:58] <th> that's what needed to be done in the last install as well
[21:58] <th> so it's only better
[21:59] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: also, what's the difference between initrd_base and initrd_essential?
[21:59] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: example:
[21:59] <blindcoder> /etc/conf/initrd/initrd_foo contains:
[21:59] <blindcoder> /foo/        /foo/
[21:59] <blindcoder> /foo/ contains:
[21:59] <blindcoder> "/foo/abc def"
[22:00] <blindcoder> now, that for f in `find $file` will barf about not finding /foo/abc and not finding def
[22:00] <stf^rocklinux> th: first line bug was introduced in 2006031919444902232, so simply use 2006032121380929687 instead
[22:00] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I see...
[22:00] <blindcoder> will become even funnier if "abc def" is a directory
[22:00] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: that's why I'm gonna clean it up a bit :)
[22:01] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: the problem with the approach find $file | while read f ; is that it's a subshell with it's own local $lib variable o_O
[22:01] <th> stf^rocklinux: so 2006032121380929687 is an alternative to 2006031919444902232? and not an incremental?
[22:01] <stf^rocklinux> th: yes
[22:01] <blindcoder> while read f ; do ... ; done < <( find $file )
[22:01] <blindcoder> that's the solution
[22:02] <th> diff -Naur 2006031919444902232 2006032121380929687|wc
[22:02] <th>     419    2039   14103
[22:02] <th> that's a big incremental
[22:02] <th> shall i cancel that whole journal because of it?
[22:02] <blindcoder> hell, even this might work:
[22:02] <blindcoder> OLDIFS=${IFS} ; IFS='\n' ; for f in `find $file` ; do ... ; done ; IFS=${OLDIFS} ; unset OLDIFS
[22:04] <th> could you two work out an increment to 2006031919444902232?
[22:04] <blindcoder> also, I'm quite sure that for f in `find $file` will choke on a line > 65535 characters
[22:04] <th> one which you both agree to?
[22:04] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: yes
[22:04] <blindcoder> th: use his newer patch
[22:04] <blindcoder> th: I'll clean it up _after_ it's been applied
[22:04] <blindcoder> I don't like fiddling around in half applied patches
[22:04] <blindcoder> it usually becomes a mess
[22:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: revert the old, apply the new?
[22:05] <th> that would mean a full journal for nothing
[22:05] <th> there are some kde ongoings in it
[22:05] <th> so i'd prefer to apply the first
[22:05] <blindcoder> huh?
[22:05] <th> first the 1st-line thing fixed
[22:05] <blindcoder> discard the first, apply the new one
[22:05] <th> i'm currently testing such a build
[22:05] <blindcoder> what's the problem?
[22:05] <blindcoder> that patch only changes rockinitrd files
[22:06] <th> i can't apply the new one without doing a full build
[22:06] <blindcoder> interrupt it, patch around, pick it up again
[22:06] <th> there is nothing to interrupt
[22:06] <th> the iso's are online
[22:06] <blindcoder> apparently I'm too simple minded
[22:06] <stf^rocklinux> th: I'll create an incremental patch
[22:07] <blindcoder> rsync?
[22:07] <th> now it's the question wether to apply the journal (with some hotfixes perhaps) or drop it.
[22:07] <th> rsync?
[22:07] <th> atd?
[22:07] <th> named?
[22:08] <blindcoder> th: revert the old patch, apply the new one, create-errlist -newdelete, build-target, create-iso, rsync
[22:08] <th> ahh
[22:08] <th> ok i'll try
[22:08] <th> with that incremental patch
[22:09] <th> so it's still a hotfix
[22:09] <th> stf^rocklinux: ok waiting for it.
[22:09] <blindcoder> apparently I'm really too simple minded
[22:09] <th> blindcoder: why?
[22:10] <blindcoder> and with thta simple mind I'm now going to bed
[22:10] <blindcoder> good night!
[22:10] <th> good night
[22:13] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: gn8
[22:13] <stf^rocklinux> th: 2006_03_2122130112045
[22:16] <fake> puh
[22:16] <fake> how long was i away? you're talking too much ;)
[22:16] <th> stf^rocklinux: that would not apply to my current journal
[22:17] <th> patching file package/base/rockinitrd/mkinitrd.sh
[22:17] <th> Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
[22:17] <th> Hunk #4 FAILED at 96.
[22:17] <th> (dry-run)
[22:17] <th> hmmmmm
[22:17] <th> perhaps some other patch i have
[22:18] <th> that's a mess
[22:18] <fake> .iso is here, let me fix one thing with the asterisk, then i'll install it on my workstation hete
[22:18] <stf^rocklinux> th: I applied my patches against svn trunk
[22:19] <th> yea and i applied the whole journal before
[22:19] <fake> th: fixdiff ed <sm patch> package/base/rockinitrd/mkinitrd.sh
[22:20] <th> bash: fixdiff: command not found
[22:20] <fake> rocket emerge submaster 
[22:21] <th> /usr/sbin/rocket: line 195: cd: /usr/src/rock-src: No such file or directory
[22:22] <th> that's a bbs ;)
[22:22] <th> fake: can you give me the fixdiff only?
[22:23] <th> i've no trunk install anywhere yet
[22:23] <th> it's all stable ;-)
[22:23] <fake> http://www.rocklinux.net/svn/submaster/trunk/fixdiff.sh
[22:23] <stf^rocklinux> th: I've diffed my patch against your journal: 2006_03_2122231812651
[22:24] <th> stf^rocklinux: cool
[22:24] <stf^rocklinux> th: hope I didn't mix it all up ^^
[22:25] <th> that confuses me
[22:26] <th> how can this be against my journal if it patches an existing package/base/rockinitrd/initrd_essential.txt which does not exist in my journal?
[22:29] <stf^rocklinux> th: grml... a left-over file ...
[22:32] <stf^rocklinux> th: 2006032122314413122
[22:35] <stf^rocklinux> th: PLEASE say it applies :)
[22:36] <th> stf^rocklinux: http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/mkinitrd.sh
[22:37] <th> stf^rocklinux: 2006032122314413122 still patches my non-existing initrd_essential.txt
[22:37] <th> ah yes
[22:37] <th> it's adding it
[22:37] <th> disregard that
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[22:38] <stf^rocklinux> th: you have fixed the first line manually?
[22:39] <th> ah damn
[22:39] <th> is that the only reject?
[22:40] <th> yes it is
[22:40] <th> then i undo that s/# #/#/ hotfix and it should apply
[22:40] <th> patching file package/base/rockinitrd/initrd_essential.txt
[22:40] <th> patching file package/base/rockinitrd/mkinitrd.sh
[22:40] <th> patching file package/base/rockinitrd/rockinitrd.conf
[22:40] <th> patching file package/base/rockinitrd/rockinitrd.desc
[22:40] <th> applies now.
[22:41] <stf^rocklinux> th: thanks :)
[22:41] <th> sorry for troubling you
[22:42] <stf^rocklinux> np. juggling with patch files is a delicate business ^^
[22:42] <th> Scheduling package 'rockinitrd' for rebuild ...
[22:43] <th> fake: you might want to delay the install
[22:43] <fake> th: y?
[22:43] <th> hotfixing the iso
[22:43] <fake> aye
[22:46] <th> i'll try to supply xdelta
[22:49] <th> xdelta needs glib?
[22:49] <stf^rocklinux> th: yes glib12 afaik
[22:51] <th> ahh ok
[22:51] <th> built.
[22:52] <th> 30568 root      18   0  359m 356m 237m R 93.0 40.3   0:53.18 xdelta                            
[22:53] <th> rsync is faster
[22:53] <th> rsync is already transferring the incrementals
[22:54] <th> sent 1562651 bytes  received 182162 bytes  14479.78 bytes/sec
[22:54] <th> total size is 676655104  speedup is 387.81
[22:54] <th> nice speedup
[22:55] <th> damn you can't do rsync if you have http access only
[22:55] <th> well - perhaps xdelta finishes somewhen
[22:56] <th> it did
[22:56] <th> hahahaha 561MB of xdelta
[23:00] <daja77> re
[23:00] <stf^rocklinux> wb
[23:05] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[23:05] Topic changed on #rocklinux by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de: http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/test-releases/ +++ please test 20060321-crystal_PL1_cd1.iso now!
[23:05] #rocklinux: mode change '-o th' by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de
[23:16] <fake> so it seems a return value <> 0 makes the extension leave ... hrm.
[23:19] <fake> duck_chris: you're logged in as root on your machine...
[23:20] <th> fake: that might be an incorrect identd response from some bouncer
[23:20] <fake> th: yes, maybe - or maybe not ;)
[23:36] <th> stf^rocklinux: cooooooool
[23:36] <th> stf^rocklinux: thanks for PL1
[23:37] <th> boots without manually recreating initrd now
[23:37] <stf^rocklinux> th: nice :)
[23:40] <stf^rocklinux> pfft, with current speed my download of the ISO will take 30 days ...
[23:40] <th> stf^rocklinux: i hope you're downloading PL1?
[23:40] <stf^rocklinux> th: yes
[23:41] <th> stf^rocklinux: do you want me to ship it to you?
[23:41] <fake> i would be faster
[23:41] <stf^rocklinux> th: np, I think speed will increase overnight
[23:41] <th> k
[23:42] <th> stf^rocklinux: btw - you gave some kde-prefix==/usr reports on rock-devel, no?
[23:42] <stf^rocklinux> yes, I wrote one
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[23:43] <stf^rocklinux> My running system is build with this patch
[23:43] <th> i was not (yet) asking for a patch, was i?
[23:44] <stf^rocklinux> th: no, but I used the kde prefix=/usr patch for the system I'm running
[23:44] <stf^rocklinux> th: there are 2 minor problems with it, both have to do with .desktop  files
[23:45] <th> ahh ok
[23:45] <th> ok
[23:45] <th> yea - i just reread your mail
[23:49] <th> wow even `chsh` works.
[23:49] <th> never tried that thing before
[23:49] <th> works as user
[23:57] <th> oh
[23:58] <th> we have no kernel sources in crystal?
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