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[00:25] <andyrtr> hi all, somebody here who can tell me how to compile the bootloaders for a x86_64 port (archlinux) iso?
[00:25] <andyrtr> our bootloaderswork within a running system but give a "cannot execute binary" error while installation
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[08:28] <blindcoder> clifford: YAY! :)
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[13:22] <esden> blindcoder: what are you doing? o_O
[13:40] <clifford> blindcoder: what's up?
[14:57] <blindcoder> clifford: YAY for the in-reply-to header :)
[14:57] <blindcoder> esden: right now? reading mails :)
[14:59] <esden> blindcoder: no about one and half hours ago ...
[15:00] <esden> blindcoder: somehow the connection to pallas was away for a short time
[15:00] <esden> but that could be the provider too
[15:03] <esden> blindcoder: see pm ;)
[15:03] <blindcoder> esden: hmm, didn't see pallas going down
[15:03] <blindcoder> but I was busy
[15:04] <esden> blindcoder: kk no problem .. must have been something else ;)
[15:07] Nick change: ija_ -> ija
[15:08] <clifford> blindcoder: 2006031713044803603
[15:08] <clifford> .. did you test that already?
[15:08] <blindcoder> clifford: I don't know if I did
[15:28] <blindcoder> clifford: will test now
[15:28] <clifford> great.
[15:28] <clifford> I've changed the color of the 'OK'.
[15:29] <clifford> (reaload to force your browser to recognice the new CSS)
[15:29] <blindcoder> clifford: will I get the "My Patches" link in return? :)
[15:30] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/index.websplb?filter_owner=blindcoder
[15:30] <blindcoder> just a minute or two
[15:30] <blindcoder> Tor is extremely slow today
[15:30] <clifford> .. create a bookmark.
[15:30] <clifford> ;-)
[15:30] <blindcoder> good enough for me
[15:31] <daja77> https://suntsu.org/fun/BBMTN2.jpg
[15:31] <blindcoder> clifford: MUCH better :)
[15:32] <blindcoder> daja77: I don't get it. Film poster?
[15:32] <daja77> blindcoder: well think of what brokeback mountain is about
[15:33] <blindcoder> I have no clue
[15:34] <daja77> ic
[15:35] <netrunner> daja77: wow, I want to see that movie asap :)
[15:36] <daja77> :)
[15:39] <blindcoder> okay, while the initrd test is running I'm going to clean up this dump^H^H^H^Hflat
[15:43] <blindcoder> narf
[15:43] <blindcoder> /dev/console: nsfod
[15:46] <blindcoder> *grunt*
[15:46] <blindcoder> initrd doesn't contain the /lib/udev/devices/ stuff yet
[15:46] <blindcoder> no, I don't feel like adding it right now
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[16:55] <daja77> Patch 2006040615342021558 added. <- why i can't see it on smng?
[16:56] <clifford> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/index.websplb?mode=patch&uid=2006040615342021558
[16:56] <clifford> .. because I discarded it.
[16:56] <clifford> (read your mail ;-)
[16:56] <daja77> ah ok duplicate, haven't noticed
[16:58] <stf^rocklinux> fake: bootdisk update is here: 2006040616574112383
[17:05] <stf^rocklinux> <- afk until 18:30
[18:21] <stf^rocklinux> re
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[19:43] <blindcoder> hehe
[19:44] <blindcoder> toshiba beamer
[19:44] <blindcoder> sgi keyboard
[19:44] <blindcoder> intel mainboard/processor
[19:44] <blindcoder> and dvorak keyboard layout
[19:44] <blindcoder> the worst of all worlds
[19:45] <blindcoder> and to all that: a shisha to smoke
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[20:50] <fake> moin
[20:51] <fake> blindcoder: no device nodes should be in /lib/udev/devices
[20:51] <fake> th: ping
[20:51] <fake> clifford: ping
[20:54] <blindcoder> fake: sure should
[20:54] Action: fake wants to change the topic?
[20:54] <fake> blindcoder: _no_
[20:54] <blindcoder> like console
[20:54] <fake> blindcoder: no!
[20:54] <fake> blindcoder: no, no, no, no.
[20:54] <blindcoder> because after tmpfs is mounted on /dev/, the initial /dev/console is _gone_
[20:54] <blindcoder> and udevd and find /sys/ | blah will _not_ create them
[20:54] <fake> it does
[20:54] <blindcoder> ehm... yes?
[20:55] <blindcoder> it will be gone
[20:55] <fake> udevd --daemon creates all basic device nodes like null, zero, ... and console.
[20:55] <fake> that's what udev is there for.
[20:55] <blindcoder> not here
[20:55] <fake> blindcoder: then please set udev_log="debug" in /etc/udev/udev.conf
[20:56] <fake> and find out why
[20:56] <blindcoder> hmm
[20:56] <fake> blindcoder: we're relying on udevd doing it like... everywhere.
[20:56] <fake> blindcoder: and it works
[20:56] <blindcoder> that might explain
[20:56] <blindcoder> udev 084
[20:57] <fake> blindcoder: i just recently added console, null, tty and zero to 00-dirtree, the way it is before tmpfs-mount in i.e. the initrd
[20:57] <blindcoder> won't be able to until the weekend
[20:57] <blindcoder> so please remind me (kicking in the butt included)
[20:57] <fake> blindcoder: will do
[20:58] <blindcoder> if you have a recent build, just try installing it in qemu or wherever and encrypt something with my last patch in submaster
[20:58] <blindcoder> that's how I triggered it
[20:58] <fake> https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/fake/test-releases/crystal_test-rev7469-pmmx_cd1.iso
[20:58] <fake> that's the latest and greates
[20:58] <fake> +t
[20:59] <fake> trunk, at least
[20:59] <blindcoder> wget'ing
[21:00] <blindcoder> I have an older trunk here
[21:00] <blindcoder> 16.02.2006
[21:00] <fake> oooold ;)
[21:00] <blindcoder> pfff
[21:00] <blindcoder> I prefer a working system to a bleeding edge one
[21:01] <blindcoder> that's why I haven't changed _anything_ on my laptop since last year's CLT
[21:01] <fake> trunk is really stable right now
[21:02] <blindcoder> X config, device recognition, kernel patches, wireless lan, /dev/mem hacking and so on and so forth
[21:02] <blindcoder> all set up to nicely fall into place
[21:02] <blindcoder> I do _not_ want to do all this again
[21:02] <fake> copy your xorg.conf, and all the patches, rebuild the kernel, and that should be it ;)
[21:02] <fake> make a target for your laptop
[21:03] <blindcoder> that target would include at least 5 additional packages :P
[21:03] <blindcoder> some default initrd plugins
[21:03] <fake> go go go ;)
[21:03] <blindcoder> initscripts, too
[21:03] <blindcoder> no
[21:03] <blindcoder> no, no, no
[21:04] <blindcoder> NO
[21:05] <blindcoder> after processor optimisation now individual optimisation for all kinds of hardware combinations?
[21:22] <fake> blindcoder: i've been wanting a laptop-optimized distribution for long
[21:22] <blindcoder> you'd have to optimise it for each and every laptop
[21:23] <blindcoder> because getting the right hacks in is different for every gfx chipset
[21:23] <fake> of course. but it could be pentium-m optimized by default, with speedstep etc. in the kernel
[21:23] <blindcoder> otherwise you get a sloppy 1280x1024 resolution
[21:23] <blindcoder> where a nice 1400x1050 would be necessary
[21:24] <fake> *nodnod*
[21:24] <fake> but it works out-of-the-box here, ati radeon x600
[21:24] <blindcoder> then there are laptops with other processors and chipsets than p-m
[21:24] <blindcoder> not with i855m, for example
[21:24] <fake> no, those aren't laptops, those are 'carriable desktops' ;-))
[21:25] <blindcoder> you need a little /dev/mem hacking for it
[21:25] <blindcoder> bad
[21:25] <blindcoder> bah
[21:25] <fake> i haven an intel chipset, too, just not sure which one ;)
[21:25] <blindcoder> and yours is a XXL pocket calculator :P
[21:25] <fake> ;P
[21:25] <blindcoder> water it regularly, and maybe it might become a computer
[21:26] Action: fake working against ms sql server atm
[21:26] <fake> how can i fucking trigger an integrity arsch- und fotzen test?
[21:26] <fake> i can schedule them, but not trigger them!
[21:27] #rocklinux: mode change '+o th' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[21:27] #rocklinux: mode change '+o fake' by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de
[21:27] #rocklinux: mode change '-o fake' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[21:27] <blindcoder> oooh
[21:27] <blindcoder> ops
[21:27] <blindcoder> me too, me too
[21:27] #rocklinux: mode change '-t ' by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de
[21:27] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHAHA
[21:28] <th> gprs in atrain
[21:28] #rocklinux: mode change '+o blindcoder' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
[21:28] <th> very bad connection
[21:28] <blindcoder> stole it :)
[21:28] <blindcoder> th: where are you going to/coming from?
[21:28] #rocklinux: mode change '-o blindcoder' by blindcoder!n=blindcod@tor/session/x-9ab1676588e1cd02
[21:29] <th> going home from business trip sophia-antipolis
[21:29] <th> fake: now set the topic...
[21:29] Topic changed on #rocklinux by fake!n=fake@rapidnetworks.de: https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/fake/test-releases/crystal_test-rev7469-pmmx_cd1.iso (please test)
[21:29] <fake> thx
[21:30] #rocklinux: mode change '+t-o th' by th!n=th@montana.hbsn.de
[21:30] Action: fake will never understand irc
[21:30] <blindcoder> hehe
[21:30] <blindcoder> especially freenode :)
[21:31] <fake> th: thanks! no go back to the beach ;)
[21:32] <blindcoder> I thought you had ops in here...
[21:32] <th> fake: there is noo beach @ sophia-antipolis
[21:32] <fake> To resolve this problem, first run the DBCC CHECKDB
[21:33] <fake> arghl, how intuitive
[21:36] <fake> th: then go for the bar ;P
[21:36] <th> i said im going home...
[21:36] <th> im already back in germany
[21:37] <th> being home in like 30 minutes
[21:41] <fake> th: but you're not driving, are you?
[21:42] <th> train...
[21:42] <blindcoder> he _did_ say train earlie
[21:42] <fake> ah, ok
[21:42] Action: fake not paying attention (as usual)
[21:44] <th> yea slacker...
[21:45] Action: fake rocker
[21:47] <th> ok my station to leave the train is the next
[21:47] <th> brb
[21:48] <fake> baba
[21:55] <stf^rocklinux> fake: bootdisk update is on the sm list
[22:04] <fake> stf^rocklinux: cool, thanks!
[22:06] <stf^rocklinux> fake: have fun!
[22:08] <stf^rocklinux> fake: btw. udev is not (marked as) cross-compilable yet
[22:09] <fake> stf^rocklinux: i haven't tested it uet
[22:09] <fake> *yet
[22:17] <netrunner> brrr
[22:17] Action: netrunner spits on m$access
[22:19] Action: fake spits on m$*
[22:34] <th> .
[23:02] <fake> ..
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[23:22] <daja77> re
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