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[00:41] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-bc75ab9b8a0ea099) joined #rocklinux. [00:42] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-568c56c5a708d1ec) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [02:24] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-107-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:33] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-103-040.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:33] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [03:12] nookie (i=nookie@maou.66h.42h.de) left irc: Client Quit [04:32] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:33] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:05] <blindcoder> moin [08:21] <netrunner> moin [08:24] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: may I suggest :old or so? not that someone has the funny idea and just removes them, which would break other packages that still link against a previous version of a library [09:11] [raphael] (n=raphael@116.151.216.81.static.upv.siw.siwnet.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:51] [raphael] (n=raphael@116.151.216.81.static.upv.siw.siwnet.net) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [10:05] mnemoc (n=amery@200.73.54.5) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:06] mnemoc (n=amery@200.73.54.5) joined #rocklinux. [10:27] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-045-012.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:35] <th> blindcoder: ping [10:38] <blindcoder> th: pong [10:38] <th> blindcoder: where can i get a jo from? [10:38] <blindcoder> th: a jo? [10:38] <th> you dont have jo's at kendo? [10:39] <th> i thought you would [10:39] <blindcoder> we have a dojo [10:39] <blindcoder> but jo... [10:39] <blindcoder> I don't know what that should be [10:39] <th> ahh but you have the bokken [10:39] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-044-190.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [10:40] <blindcoder> yes [10:40] <blindcoder> the bokken and the shinai [10:40] <blindcoder> the bokken is massive wood in sword-form [10:40] <blindcoder> the shinai is 4 parts of bamboo or acceptable substitute [10:41] <blindcoder> www.kendo-sport.de [10:41] <blindcoder> www.kendo24.de [10:41] <blindcoder> I have very good experience with kendo-sport [10:43] <th> only in german wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8D [10:46] <blindcoder> *click* [10:47] <blindcoder> ah, I see [10:47] <blindcoder> I don't know where you could get one of these, sorry [10:48] <th> yea - your shop is pretty kendo specific ;) [11:03] <blindcoder> away gone [11:04] <blindcoder> *grunt* [11:29] <blindcoder> has anyone tried the {un,}packiso.sh scripts? [12:18] <daja77_> is this intentionally that the kde prefix is set to usr and not to /usr? [12:19] <mnemoc> $root/$prefix ? [12:20] <daja77_> ah ok [12:23] <mnemoc> :) [12:24] <daja77_> yep works this way [12:25] <daja77_> just had to adjust the prefix for kde on the home system so that I can build some packages [13:16] ija_ (n=ija@11.242.80.212.versanetonline.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:17] ija (n=ija@42.242.80.212.versanetonline.de) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:17] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [13:37] roura-cz (n=root@80.95.103.208) joined #rocklinux. [14:18] <stf^rocklinux> moin [14:18] <blindcoder> moin moin [14:19] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: feel free to suggest any name you like (preferably in the form of a SubMaster patch :) ) [14:25] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: using :old instead of :purgeable sound reasonable to me [14:28] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: sorry, no time for patching around. [14:38] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: maybe just add a comment to the patch [14:41] <th> s/purgeable/old/ sounds fine. [14:41] <th> s/purgeable/obsolete/ might be more precise. [14:47] <stf^rocklinux> th: obsolete doesn't exactly fit with netrunner's example where some old shared library is affected [14:48] <stf^rocklinux> th: the shared library might be replaced with a newer version but still be used [14:49] <th> yes. true. [14:49] <th> ok. [14:49] <th> agreed. [14:49] <th> but even old would be not correct [14:49] <th> if i downgrade to an older version [14:49] <th> then the newer thing would be in old. [14:50] <th> so it's more a :prior_package [14:53] <stf^rocklinux> th: indeed [14:55] <daja77_> latest linux is 2.6.16.5 -.- [14:57] <stf^rocklinux> th: maybe call it leftover, remains, remnants or the like? [14:58] roura-cz (n=root@80.95.103.208) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:58] <daja77_> legacy ^^ [15:00] <stf^rocklinux> daja: that's a good one. [15:02] <stf^rocklinux> daja: legacy fits the purpose of the package quite nicely imo [15:03] Action: stf^rocklinux just looked up the german translation of 'legacy' at https://dict.tu-chemnitz.de [15:05] <daja77_> :) [15:17] <stf^rocklinux> th: you agree? [15:18] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: and you? [15:18] <th> legacy sounds good [15:20] <netrunner> what? where? Me? [15:21] <netrunner> oh. [15:21] Action: netrunner still likes [15:22] <netrunner> :old. it's shorter and means the same. and does not need to be looked up in a dictionary first. [15:22] <th> that has some point [15:23] <daja77_> legacy is what other distros call their old stuff [15:24] <blindcoder> we're no distro, let's call it :old :P [15:24] <daja77_> :D [15:25] <th> legacy fits [15:25] <th> old fits as well but is less exact [15:25] <th> prior_package just stinks. [15:26] <clifford> yep, legacy fits [15:26] <clifford> hi btw ;-) [15:26] <th> hi cliff [15:26] <daja77_> hi clifford [15:26] <blindcoder> moin clifford [15:26] <blindcoder> clifford: you're opinion on {un,}packiso.sh? [15:26] <daja77_> hope to see you on the weekend [15:26] <blindcoder> work some more on it or wipe it from existance? [15:27] <stf^rocklinux> bbs [15:28] <clifford> blindcoder: {un,}packiso.sh? [15:28] <blindcoder> *grunz* [15:28] <blindcoder> clifford: the scripts I posted to rock-devel some days ago [15:28] <blindcoder> Subject: [rock-devel] scripts for packing and unpacking the livecd [15:29] <clifford> oh! seam to have a problem with my mutt.. [15:29] <daja77_> blindcoder: i can test them after easter stuff i guess .. [15:29] <blindcoder> you don't pet it enough [15:29] <clifford> 4 new messages in that folder but 'c' did not bring it up .. [15:29] <daja77_> clifford: you switched from pine? ;) [15:29] <blindcoder> daja77_: that'd be great [15:29] <th> clifford: so it's not in your `mailboxes` [15:30] <clifford> daja77_: already 1 or 2 years ago. [15:30] <blindcoder> mailboxes ` find ~/Mail/ -type f` [15:30] <clifford> th: it is in my `mailboxes` [15:30] <th> hmm [15:30] <clifford> .. and usually it works fine. [15:30] <blindcoder> clifford: it only brings it up if atime <= mtime [15:30] <th> blindcoder: you use files as your mailboxes? [15:31] <blindcoder> th: sure [15:31] <th> *shiver* [15:31] mnemoc (n=amery@200.73.54.5) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:31] <blindcoder> th: and dovecot to serve them via IMAPS [15:31] <th> blindcoder: never heared of maildir? [15:31] <blindcoder> th: rumors, only rumors :) [15:32] <blindcoder> th: besides, all my scripts are assuming mboxes [15:32] <blindcoder> th: and I'm too lazy to change them [15:33] <clifford> blindcoder: I do not do anything with the livecd - so I have no oppinion on this.. [15:33] <blindcoder> okay [15:34] <blindcoder> okay, gotta finish some windows pcs now [15:34] <blindcoder> bbl [15:45] <blindcoder> re [15:45] <blindcoder> done [16:06] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:10] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [16:10] mnemoc (n=amery@200.73.54.5) joined #rocklinux. [16:40] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: btw. I think most computer users are familiar with the term 'legacy', I looked it up to see if all of it's meanings more or less match the purpose of the package [17:50] <fake> ack @legacy [18:06] <fake> has anyone registered us for the linuxtag yet? [18:07] <fake> oh [18:07] <fake> forget it. registration is over. [18:11] <daja77_> boy that sucks isn't there any easy too use ripping and burning tool to create mp3 cds [18:13] <fake> can't k3b do it? [18:15] <daja77_> k3b can't encode audio to mp3 [18:16] <fake> lame ? [18:18] <daja77_> yeah sure [18:18] <daja77_> just wanted to do it quickly ;) [18:19] <netrunner> daja77_: k3b can do it. [18:19] <netrunner> daja77_: I always directly burn mp3 with k3b [18:20] <daja77_> netrunner: i wanted to do_ cd -> mp3 -> cd [18:20] <netrunner> daja77_: I use ripperX for cd->mp3 and then k3b for mp3->cd [18:21] <daja77_> *building [18:29] <daja77_> really interesting to see how many programs just suck when the audio cd drive is not /dev/cdrom ... [18:33] <daja77_> aynway [18:33] <daja77_> off now [18:37] <stf^rocklinux> bbl [18:37] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-035-57.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [19:06] <th> hmm we are still missing some kde pam things, i think [19:06] <th> the "administrative mode" in Kontrolcenter asks for password and does not accept root password [19:11] <fake> th: are you in the wheel group? [19:11] <fake> th: otherwise it won't work [19:44] ceegee (n=christia@p50895F99.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [19:44] <ceegee> hello [19:44] <fake> hi ceegee [19:48] <ceegee> I just installed crystal rock, so far so good, but when it boots up, I see two errors: RTNETLINK answers: File exists and microcode_ctl: cannot open /dev/misc/microcode for writing errno=2 (No such file or directory) [19:49] <ceegee> it wants me to logon to the mainenance console [19:49] <ceegee> looks not right, nor? [19:49] <ceegee> by the way ... hello fake :-) [19:51] <fake> ceegee: the 2 errors can be ignored [19:51] <ceegee> okay [19:51] <fake> ceegee: the first is because the loopback interface is set up twice [19:52] <fake> ceegee: the 2nd due to a missing symlink for the microcode device. if you don't have a processor affected by bugs fixed in microcode, it doesn't matter. [19:52] <fake> ceegee: if you don't like the maintenance console, try alt+f{1-6} ;-) [19:52] <ceegee> but my network interface doesnt come up at boot time [19:53] <ceegee> I configured it in /etc/network/config [19:53] <ceegee> the manual way works [19:55] <fake> ceegee: then you may want to try a little harder - i'm not into rocknet at all... [19:56] <ceegee> okay [19:57] <ceegee> ahhhh [19:58] <ceegee> network is not enabled in rc2 [19:58] <ceegee> what command is used to manage runlevels in rock linux? [20:00] <fake> stone -> System Init Configuration and Runlevel Configuration [20:01] <ceegee> stonr [20:01] <ceegee> stone [20:01] <ceegee> yes [20:01] <ceegee> :) [20:01] <ceegee> nice [20:04] <th> fake: yes i was in the wheel group. su works. [20:06] <fake> th: weird... [20:42] ceegee (n=christia@p50895F99.dip.t-dialin.net) left #rocklinux ("Leaving"). [21:41] <blindcoder> re [21:43] <blindcoder> we should _definately_ rename the maintenance console [21:44] <fake> jep [21:58] Action: daja77_ packing [21:58] <blindcoder> who? for what/ [21:59] <daja77_> me, my stuff to drive to vienna [21:59] <blindcoder> ah [21:59] <blindcoder> well, I'm gonna pack tomorrow morning [21:59] <blindcoder> for my trip to Ingolstadt, where I'll be consuming lots of booze with esden, martina and whoever else comes around [22:07] Action: fake will be busy drinking with daja ;) [22:16] Action: fake setting up his qube2 [22:18] <blindcoder> qube2? 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