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[07:04] <blindcoder> moin
[08:40] <netrunner> moinmoin
[09:22] <th> netrunner: http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/2-gcc40.log
[09:22] <th> netrunner: do you see these errors here?
[09:24] <netrunner> th: yes
[09:24] <netrunner> th: just search for ignored
[09:26] <th> i see
[09:26] <th> seems to be a staged build
[09:26] <th> but later the `cc1obj` is built without problems
[09:27] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:27] <blindcoder> any suggestions on this:
[09:28] <blindcoder> aes encryption wants a passphrase 16 <= length <= 32
[09:28] <blindcoder> what to do with passphrases that don't fall into this length?
[09:28] <blindcoder> discard? hash?
[09:29] <blindcoder> ask for a new one?
[09:31] <netrunner> the later
[09:31] <blindcoder> ask once more?
[09:31] <netrunner> yes
[09:32] <blindcoder> okay
[09:32] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you create a hash that is longer than its input you reduce security :)
[09:33] <netrunner> (because there are multiple short inputs for the same hash)
[09:33] <netrunner> on the other hand, longer input does not add extra security 
[09:37] <blindcoder> netrunner: but it increases its memorability
[09:37] <blindcoder> if it's a long phrase that you can easily remember, for example
[09:42] <netrunner> jup. does not hurt.
[11:16] <blindcoder> daja77: haha, php 5.1.4 :D
[12:00] <blindcoder> so, anyone know which kernelmodule I need for /dev/vc/*
[12:00] <blindcoder> ?
[12:15] <netrunner> so, finished shopping. I hope the part's won't be baked in my car until tonight :/
[12:18] <blindcoder> hehe
[12:18] Action: blindcoder adds some extra degrees to wherever netrunner may be
[12:46] Action: netrunner feels tempted to drive home in the break
[12:48] <th> blindcoder: i always have virtual consoles built-in
[12:50] <daja77> grrrr
[12:52] <daja77> *shrug* that's just a bugfix release ;)
[12:56] <daja77> argh my last advisory was not send because the mailer daemon had no space left on device >_<
[13:02] Action: daja77 pokes clifford
[13:03] <blindcoder> th: same here
[13:03] <blindcoder> th: but I don't have the /dev/ nodes
[13:03] <blindcoder> for nothing, it seems
[13:03] <daja77> can anyone mail to rock-user?
[13:04] <blindcoder> anyone know how I can tell perl -MCPAN to install a specific version of a module?
[13:06] Action: netrunner trying to add sdhci patches ...
[13:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: I remember I had this issue once ... I am trying to remember what it was...
[13:07] <netrunner> blindcoder: iirc it was something unrelated.
[13:08] <netrunner> maybe udevd not startet and the udevstart magic not run?
[13:20] <blindcoder> netrunner: udev 090, udevd --daemon ; udevtrigger ; udevmonitor
[13:20] <blindcoder> no /dev/ nodes created :(
[13:25] <netrunner> what is udevtrigger?
[13:26] <netrunner> is sysfs mounted at that point?
[13:27] <blindcoder> udevtrigger is what is supposed to make the 'find /sys -name uevent...' obsolete
[13:27] <blindcoder> yes
[13:34] <netrunner> 2002-12-30: 23:12 < th> ak|ra: sounds like missing virtual console support in kernel
[13:34] <th> "ak|ra"?
[13:35] <th> uhhh 2002
[13:35] <th> blindcoder: is that problem specific to virtual console nodes?
[13:35] <th> blindcoder: or do you have no nodes at all?
[13:35] <th> blindcoder: is /dev mounted?
[13:36] <netrunner> blindcoder: at what point do you notice that problem?
[13:36] <daja77> damn forked packages
[13:45] <blindcoder> th: I don't have any nodes
[13:46] <th> blindcoder: so you should not care about missing /dev/vc/ and searching the module for it.
[13:46] <blindcoder> netrunner: at the point that init is killed because it can't run agetty on /dev/vc/0
[13:46] <th> blindcoder: what does your boot look like?
[13:46] <blindcoder> th: I have the same problem with udev 088 and trying the old find /sys thing
[13:47] <th> kernel commandline initrd etc
[13:47] <th> i'd say this is not udev related
[13:47] <blindcoder> th: lvp
[13:47] <blindcoder> th: just the kernel and its initrd
[13:47] <blindcoder> the initrd runs:
[13:47] <blindcoder> hwscan | sh
[13:47] <blindcoder> wait
[13:47] <blindcoder> first it mounts filesystems
[13:47] <th> wait how long?
[13:47] <blindcoder> /dev, /sys, /tmp and /proc
[13:48] <blindcoder> then it runs
[13:48] <blindcoder> hwscan | sh
[13:48] <blindcoder> then
[13:48] <blindcoder> udevd --daemon
[13:48] <blindcoder> udevtrigger
[13:48] <blindcoder> udevmonitor
[13:48] <blindcoder> then it runs agetty
[13:48] <blindcoder> that's where the kernel panics
[13:48] <th> you should replace udevmonitor with udevsettle
[13:48] <blindcoder> from hwscan to agetty takes the blink of an eye
[13:48] <blindcoder> ...
[13:49] Action: blindcoder suddenly feels stupid
[13:49] <th> your eyes are just too slow for your machine
[13:49] <blindcoder> will do when I'm home and at the build machine again
[13:52] <daja77> should I commit 2006050413514174780 too?
[13:52] <th> if it's a bugfix release to the security release
[13:52] <th> then it's security concern
[13:53] <daja77> well no, 5.1.3 has no security problem, it is just not working properly ;)
[13:53] <daja77> but i'll do no harm if i commit it
[13:53] <daja77> Apache/2.0.55 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a DAV/2 PHP/5.1.4 <- it works at least ;)
[13:54] <th> it's a user-repo only
[13:54] <daja77> ok
[13:54] <daja77> but iirc it is core
[13:54] <th> is it core?
[13:54] <th> oh it is
[13:54] <th> so it should be moved to base
[13:54] <th> this sucks
[13:54] <daja77> yep
[13:55] <th> no no no no
[13:55] <th> we should not move every core package to base
[13:55] <daja77> hm?
[13:55] <th> that totally sucks
[13:55] <daja77> it does
[13:55] <th> the vote-pattern should see the CORE flag instead
[13:55] <daja77> i'll just commit it without moving for a start ...
[13:58] <th> categories / repositories / flags / maintainers / vote-patterns
[13:59] <daja77> th: do you know if rock-user works again?
[13:59] <th> it did not?
[14:00] <daja77> no my announcement for php bounced due full harddiscs on the server
[14:02] <th> atm there is no full harddisk on server
[14:03] <th> daja77: you still cant mark patches in submaster applied?
[14:04] <daja77> i can
[14:04] <daja77> i am just in submaster and wondering why the php 5.1.3 update is listed twice there with different ids?
[14:06] <th> daja77: the rock-user works.
[14:06] <daja77> goof
[14:06] <daja77> good
[14:06] <daja77> so I'll resend
[15:06] <netrunner> if I echo something in pkg_linux_pre.conf, it comes to the build console ... how to fix that?
[15:07] <th> dont echo anything
[15:07] <th> exec > /dev/null
[15:08] <netrunner> well, I don't echo, patch writes to stdout.
[15:09] <th> < th> exec > /dev/null
[15:09] <netrunner> th: but how to get something into the build log? shouldn't that be redirected there?
[15:11] <th> i think that's what stdout is for
[15:11] <netrunner> maybe I should add what I do in the pre.conf to hooks?
[15:18] <netrunner> ah, it partially is ...
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[21:12] <stf^rocklinux> <netrunner> th: but how to get something into the build log? shouldn't that be redirected there?
[21:12] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: I think echo_status can be used for that
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