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[07:11] <blindcoder> moin
[08:47] Nick change: ija_ -> ija
[08:52] <netrunner> moin, 2
[08:58] <netrunner> blindcoder: don't you have a stripped down version of X in lvp?
[08:58] Action: netrunner thinks about starting X already in init ...
[08:59] <netrunner> i.e. very early
[08:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: stripped down? no
[08:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: statically linked, yes
[09:00] <blindcoder> netrunner: just put 99-kdm to 15-kdm or somewhere along those lines
[09:01] <netrunner> blindcoder: what size is it?
[09:02] <blindcoder> X? about 8 or 10 MB compressed
[09:02] <netrunner> hm. ... maybe it's better to use silent splash :)
[09:02] <blindcoder> 3 MB compressed
[09:03] <blindcoder> what's the concern about size, anyway?
[09:13] <blindcoder> hmm
[09:14] <blindcoder> lvp getting massive hits from russian sites
[09:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: spam crawler :)
[09:29] <blindcoder> heh, no
[09:29] <blindcoder> linux.org.ru
[11:21] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[11:21] <blindcoder> moin moin stf^rocklinux 
[11:21] <stf^rocklinux> looks like php5 requires internet access at build time; from 5-php5.err (crystal build):
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux> Installing PEAR environment:      /usr/lib/php/
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux> --14:14:33--  http://pear.php.net/install-pear-nozlib.phar
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux>            => `pear/install-pear-nozlib.phar'
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux> Resolving pear.php.net... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux> make: *** [install-pear] Error 1
[11:22] <stf^rocklinux> --- BUILD ERROR ---
[11:22] <th> that's totally sick
[11:23] <stf^rocklinux> whatever that is, it should be downloaded earlier :D
[11:24] <blindcoder> O_O
[11:32] <stf^rocklinux> looks like we only need to download one file, see php-5.1.4/pear/Makefile.frag
[11:32] <blindcoder> and patch the makefile
[11:36] <stf^rocklinux> no, if the file already exists in $(builddir), it won't be downloaded at build time
[11:36] <stf^rocklinux> afaics
[11:37] <blindcoder> ah
[11:39] <blindcoder> anyone willing to take the new Java license to a usable-for-ROCK test?
[11:54] <stf^rocklinux> Sun Java license? 
[11:54] <stf^rocklinux> where test=read?
[11:54] <stf^rocklinux> this legal stuff is so boring ^^
[11:54] <stf^rocklinux> but a Java that we can mirror and re-distribute would be nice
[11:55] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: see most recent symlink.ch article
[11:57] <stf^rocklinux> interesting
[11:58] <blindcoder> indeed
[11:59] <stf^rocklinux> I wonder if the new license is GPL compatible, that is if we could distribute Java together with GPLed programs
[11:59] <blindcoder> distribute is not the problem
[11:59] <blindcoder> we already distribute GPL and GPL-incompatible code
[11:59] <stf^rocklinux> some distro recently had issues because the distributed nvidia and ati drivers on their Linux/GNU install cd
[12:00] <blindcoder> Koroora Xgl LiveCD
[12:00] <stf^rocklinux> yes
[12:00] <blindcoder> the problem there is that they distributed compiled versions of both
[12:00] <blindcoder> which we do not
[12:01] <stf^rocklinux> ic
[12:03] <stf^rocklinux> but is a Java .gem file a compiled version? would it be nodist or not?
[12:03] <blindcoder> wrong train of thought
[12:04] <blindcoder> the nvidia and ati drivers were non-GPL code _linked_ _against_ GPL code
[12:04] <blindcoder> which, clearly, is not allowed
[12:04] <blindcoder> the Java .gem file certainly won't be linked against GPL code
[12:04] <stf^rocklinux> libc?
[12:05] <blindcoder> LGPL
[12:06] <stf^rocklinux> ok
[12:09] Action: blindcoder trying the resize thing discussed on rock-devel
[12:09] <th> try moving and then using the fs through dm with offset
[12:10] <blindcoder> th: exactly what I'm doing :)
[12:10] <blindcoder> for x in $( seq $(( $( blockdev --getsize /dev/discs/disc0/part2 ) / 1032 )) -1 0 ) ; do dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 of=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 bs=1032 count=1 skip=$x seek=$(( $x + 1 )) ; done
[12:10] <blindcoder> hehe :D
[12:11] <blindcoder> hmm, no
[12:15] <blindcoder> HAH
[12:15] <blindcoder> --- /dev/mapper/bar
[12:15] <blindcoder> Block device, size 972.2 MiB (1019406336 bytes)
[12:15] <blindcoder> ReiserFS file system (new 3.6 format, standard journal, starts at 64 KiB)
[12:15] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:15] <blindcoder> almost
[12:16] <th> what does "distribute" mean?
[12:16] <th> uploading an iso image and offering for download is obviously distribution
[12:16] <th> providing rock-src with download urls and scripts which produce iso image propably not either
[12:17] <netrunner> could it be that our bootdisk is missing the device mapper?
[12:17] <th> what if users can "compile" the .gem file on our server on request?
[12:17] <th> netrunner: yes.
[12:17] <netrunner> th: that explains my troubles in installing your iso on a lvm :)
[12:18] <th> netrunner: use my mkinitramfs for this, this includes lvm support
[12:18] <th> netrunner: it's not yet in trunk/sm though. but i need some testing
[12:18] <netrunner> th: testing is done in trunk
[12:18] <netrunner> :)
[12:19] <th> hmpf
[12:19] <blindcoder> hehe
[12:20] <th> hmmm a new personal package in my repo propably does not hurt
[12:20] <blindcoder> th: putting it into trunk now also has the advantage that I could use the plugin interface you surely provide in mkinitramfs to move device-mapper over there
[12:21] <blindcoder> hmm
[12:21] <blindcoder> okay, this doesn't look good
[12:21] <blindcoder> I lost two out of three files
[12:21] <blindcoder> the rest is in lost+found
[12:21] <th> did you resize and move? or move only>
[12:21] <blindcoder> resize -s -25M
[12:21] <blindcoder> dd
[12:21] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree
[12:21] <blindcoder> resize
[12:22] <th> well perhaps you should do one by one to see which component messed your data
[12:22] <blindcoder> I'm sure it's the dd
[12:22] Action: daja77_ kicks vim7
[12:22] <th> did you fsck on the dm device with offset after moving?
[12:23] <stf^rocklinux> would be nice if LUKS data could reside at the end of partitions as well
[12:24] <blindcoder> th: yes
[12:25] <th> blindcoder: i guess if you only create a filesystem of 100MB on a 125MB blockdevice.
[12:25] <th> bli	and then move it by 25MB and use dm with that offset...
[12:25] <th> than i dont know how something should go wrong
[12:25] <blindcoder> neither do I
[12:25] <blindcoder> let's see what I did
[12:25] <blindcoder> mkfs.reiserfs /dev/discs/disc0/part2
[12:26] <th> well - could enforce a fs smaller than the block device?
[12:26] <blindcoder> mount /dev/discs/disc0/part2 /mnt/generic/
[12:26] <th> so there is room to move?
[12:26] <blindcoder> for x in 1 2 3 ; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/generic/${x} bs=1M count=${x}00 ; done
[12:26] <blindcoder> umount /mnt/generic/
[12:26] <blindcoder> ARGH
[12:26] <blindcoder> I know what I fucked up
[12:26] <netrunner> daja77_: why?
[12:26] <blindcoder> eh no
[12:26] <blindcoder> I didn't fuck up there
[12:26] <blindcoder> resize_reiserfs -s -25M /dev/discs/disc0/part2
[12:26] <blindcoder> echo " 0 $(( 1992060 - 1032 )) linear /dev/discs/disc0/part2 1032 " | dmsetup create bar
[12:27] <blindcoder> for x in $( seq 1930 -1 0 ) ; do echo $x; dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 of=/dev/mapper/bar bs=1032 count=1 skip=$x seek=$x ; done
[12:27] <daja77_> netrunner: it never gets syntax hilighting right for the files I created with it
[12:27] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs /dev/mapper/bar
[12:27] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree /dev/mapper/bar
[12:27] <blindcoder> resize_reiserfs /dev/mapper/bar
[12:27] <blindcoder> that's it
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[12:39] <blindcoder> okay, it's definately the dd
[12:39] <blindcoder> since when trying with ext2 e2fsck wets its pants
[12:44] <blindcoder> yup
[12:44] <blindcoder> creating a filesystem on the dm device and dd'ing it to the physical device works
[12:44] <blindcoder> moving it back totally fucks up
[12:44] <th> you propably specified a wrong offset or something
[12:44] <th> ;-)
[12:45] <blindcoder> ARGH
[12:45] <th> do a dd|cksum thing to find the glitch
[12:45] Action: blindcoder whacks his head on the table
[12:45] Last message repeated 5 time(s).
[12:45] <th> i like that rythm
[12:45] <blindcoder> blockdev --getsize returns the number of 512 byte blocks
[12:46] <blindcoder> and I used it as absolute byte count >_<
[12:46] <blindcoder> it simply _can't_ work
[12:46] <th> hehehe
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[12:57] <blindcoder> /dev/mapper/bar on /mnt/generic type reiserfs (rw)
[12:57] <blindcoder> YAY
[13:10] <stf^rocklinux> php5 fix is here: 2006051713082111778
[13:34] <blindcoder> heeheeeheeeeeee
[13:35] <blindcoder> http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/luks.sh.txt
[13:41] <netrunner> blindcoder: jo role3
[13:42] <blindcoder> Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu
[13:42] <stf^rocklinux> nice work... let's test it on the root partition :D
[13:43] <blindcoder> hehe
[13:43] <blindcoder> It's absolutely safe to do so
[13:43] Action: blindcoder ducks, runs and hides
[13:43] <blindcoder> especially since there is no initrd support code yet :D
[13:46] <stf^rocklinux> I assume the first echo block means to say there have to be at least 2MB free on the fs?
[13:46] <blindcoder> on the partition
[13:46] <stf^rocklinux> so the fs does not use at least 2MB of the partition?
[13:47] <blindcoder> correct
[13:47] <blindcoder> reload, I've added some more information
[13:48] <stf^rocklinux> ah, that's what I was going to ask next :)
[13:53] <blindcoder> since I didn't receive an answer to my previous mail I don't think I'll be getting one to this, but I sent this script to the dmcrypt list, anyway
[14:00] <fake> YES
[14:00] <stf^rocklinux> hope always dies last, so there is still hope...
[14:00] <fake> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14623
[14:01] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: the english figure of speech is "hope lasts eternal"
[14:01] <fake> Java Now Redistributable by Distros; Sun to Open Source Java
[14:01] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, we already talked about that earlier :)
[14:01] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: but it doesn't mean quite the same
[14:01] <blindcoder> fake: I'm concerned about "display of the DLJ" though
[14:02] <blindcoder> fake: http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ-v1.1.txt
[14:02] <blindcoder> fake: see #6
[14:02] <blindcoder> 6.  What are my obligations under this license?
[14:02] <blindcoder> ...
[14:02] <blindcoder>   - Present for acceptance any end user licenses that are part of the JDK, 
[14:02] <blindcoder>     if such licenses are included in the generic install bundle provided
[14:02] <blindcoder>     to you for repackaging.
[14:02] <blindcoder> ...
[14:04] <fake> blindcoder: that would mean we need to show the license on gem installation ?
[14:04] <blindcoder> probably. But we have no mechanism for doing that yet
[14:04] <blindcoder> we could run it once in postinstall.sh
[14:05] <fake> that sucks
[14:05] <blindcoder> anyway, I gotta run
[14:05] <blindcoder> looking at 5 new places to stay
[14:05] <fake> see ya!
[14:05] <blindcoder> fake: please have a look at http://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/luks.sh.txt and give me a comment about it
[14:05] <blindcoder> bye
[14:30] <stf^rocklinux> fake: I think that part of the DLJ-FAQ refers to 2. (d) of the DLJ ( http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-v1.1.txt ):
[14:30] <stf^rocklinux> (d) you do not remove or modify any included license
[14:30] <stf^rocklinux>     agreement or impede or prevent it from displaying and requiring
[14:30] <stf^rocklinux>     acceptance;
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[15:33] <daja77> hi fake
[17:43] <blindcoder> re
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[18:36] <daja77> hi miguel
[18:36] <madtux> Hey Daniel :)
[18:49] <esden> hey ho everyone
[18:49] <esden> blindcoder: /me messing around with the php installation on pallas once more >_<
[18:50] <esden> blindcoder: I need gettext support *sigh*
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[18:57] <esden> what should I do when I get this message?
[18:57] <esden> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ...
[18:57] <esden> Can't auto-detect srctar for package 'php'
[18:58] <esden> *counting_seconds_till_reply* ;)
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[19:03] <stf^rocklinux> esden: build either php=php4 or php=php5
[19:04] <esden> aaaha
[19:04] <esden> thanks stf^rocklinux 
[19:04] <stf^rocklinux> np :)
[19:05] <stf^rocklinux> esden: btw. for trunk and php5 you'll likely need the php patch from submaster
[19:06] <stf^rocklinux> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/?mode=patch&uid=2006051713082111778
[19:08] <esden> stf^rocklinux: ahh good to know ... I acctually have a problem there with pear
[19:12] <stf^rocklinux> the patch should fix that; just download the additional file for php5 before rebuilding
[19:13] <esden> stf^rocklinux: the checksum for the install-pear-nozlib-2006-05-17.phar is not correct
[19:16] <stf^rocklinux> it is here, maybe the file on the download location has changed
[19:19] <esden> stf^rocklinux: perhups
[19:20] <stf^rocklinux> esden: err, no I messed up the .desc file...
[19:20] <stf^rocklinux> I'll fix it in a minute
[19:21] <esden> stf^rocklinux: no problem ... I replaced the checksum with 0 ... ;)
[19:22] <esden> and php builds now
[19:22] <stf^rocklinux> esden: the second last line in the desc file should end with !http://pear.php.net/install-pear-nozlib.phar
[19:23] <stf^rocklinux> without it pear might not work
[19:23] <esden> humm ... but it builds
[19:24] <stf^rocklinux> because the file in question is only copied during build, I guess
[19:27] <esden> php tries to download it when it is not there and then fails ... but with your patch it compiles ... so it seams to work
[19:27] <esden> and it is installing the pear stuff as it seems
[19:27] <stf^rocklinux> take a look at  install-pear-nozlib-2006-05-17.phar to see what I mean
[19:28] <stf^rocklinux> I guess yours is just a http server response
[19:28] <stf^rocklinux> (because the download location was wrong)
[20:18] <esden> humm ... that may be
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[20:48] <stf^rocklinux> hm, how do I remove a line in vim?
[20:50] <daja77> dd
[20:51] <stf^rocklinux> thx
[21:47] <esden> damn gettext >_<
[21:47] <esden> I hate it!
[22:47] <daja77> madtux: they are just telling that the .cr soccer team arrived today
[22:52] <madtux> daja77, ich wie.
[23:13] <daja77> :)
[23:13] <daja77> so where are you
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