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[02:50] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-104-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:59] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-102-167.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:59] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:40] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [04:40] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:43] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.222.212) joined #rocklinux. [05:58] ija (n=ija@84.19.223.174) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [07:11] <blindcoder> moin [08:47] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [08:52] <netrunner> moin, 2 [08:58] <netrunner> blindcoder: don't you have a stripped down version of X in lvp? [08:58] Action: netrunner thinks about starting X already in init ... [08:59] <netrunner> i.e. very early [08:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: stripped down? no [08:59] <blindcoder> netrunner: statically linked, yes [09:00] <blindcoder> netrunner: just put 99-kdm to 15-kdm or somewhere along those lines [09:01] <netrunner> blindcoder: what size is it? [09:02] <blindcoder> X? about 8 or 10 MB compressed [09:02] <netrunner> hm. ... maybe it's better to use silent splash :) [09:02] <blindcoder> 3 MB compressed [09:03] <blindcoder> what's the concern about size, anyway? [09:13] <blindcoder> hmm [09:14] <blindcoder> lvp getting massive hits from russian sites [09:22] <netrunner> blindcoder: spam crawler :) [09:29] <blindcoder> heh, no [09:29] <blindcoder> linux.org.ru [11:21] <stf^rocklinux> moin [11:21] <blindcoder> moin moin stf^rocklinux [11:21] <stf^rocklinux> looks like php5 requires internet access at build time; from 5-php5.err (crystal build): [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> Installing PEAR environment: /usr/lib/php/ [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> --14:14:33-- https://pear.php.net/install-pear-nozlib.phar [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> => `pear/install-pear-nozlib.phar' [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> Resolving pear.php.net... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution. [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> make: *** [install-pear] Error 1 [11:22] <stf^rocklinux> --- BUILD ERROR --- [11:22] <th> that's totally sick [11:23] <stf^rocklinux> whatever that is, it should be downloaded earlier :D [11:24] <blindcoder> O_O [11:32] <stf^rocklinux> looks like we only need to download one file, see php-5.1.4/pear/Makefile.frag [11:32] <blindcoder> and patch the makefile [11:36] <stf^rocklinux> no, if the file already exists in $(builddir), it won't be downloaded at build time [11:36] <stf^rocklinux> afaics [11:37] <blindcoder> ah [11:39] <blindcoder> anyone willing to take the new Java license to a usable-for-ROCK test? [11:54] <stf^rocklinux> Sun Java license? [11:54] <stf^rocklinux> where test=read? [11:54] <stf^rocklinux> this legal stuff is so boring ^^ [11:54] <stf^rocklinux> but a Java that we can mirror and re-distribute would be nice [11:55] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: see most recent symlink.ch article [11:57] <stf^rocklinux> interesting [11:58] <blindcoder> indeed [11:59] <stf^rocklinux> I wonder if the new license is GPL compatible, that is if we could distribute Java together with GPLed programs [11:59] <blindcoder> distribute is not the problem [11:59] <blindcoder> we already distribute GPL and GPL-incompatible code [11:59] <stf^rocklinux> some distro recently had issues because the distributed nvidia and ati drivers on their Linux/GNU install cd [12:00] <blindcoder> Koroora Xgl LiveCD [12:00] <stf^rocklinux> yes [12:00] <blindcoder> the problem there is that they distributed compiled versions of both [12:00] <blindcoder> which we do not [12:01] <stf^rocklinux> ic [12:03] <stf^rocklinux> but is a Java .gem file a compiled version? would it be nodist or not? [12:03] <blindcoder> wrong train of thought [12:04] <blindcoder> the nvidia and ati drivers were non-GPL code _linked_ _against_ GPL code [12:04] <blindcoder> which, clearly, is not allowed [12:04] <blindcoder> the Java .gem file certainly won't be linked against GPL code [12:04] <stf^rocklinux> libc? [12:05] <blindcoder> LGPL [12:06] <stf^rocklinux> ok [12:09] Action: blindcoder trying the resize thing discussed on rock-devel [12:09] <th> try moving and then using the fs through dm with offset [12:10] <blindcoder> th: exactly what I'm doing :) [12:10] <blindcoder> for x in $( seq $(( $( blockdev --getsize /dev/discs/disc0/part2 ) / 1032 )) -1 0 ) ; do dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 of=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 bs=1032 count=1 skip=$x seek=$(( $x + 1 )) ; done [12:10] <blindcoder> hehe :D [12:11] <blindcoder> hmm, no [12:15] <blindcoder> HAH [12:15] <blindcoder> --- /dev/mapper/bar [12:15] <blindcoder> Block device, size 972.2 MiB (1019406336 bytes) [12:15] <blindcoder> ReiserFS file system (new 3.6 format, standard journal, starts at 64 KiB) [12:15] <blindcoder> hmm [12:15] <blindcoder> almost [12:16] <th> what does "distribute" mean? [12:16] <th> uploading an iso image and offering for download is obviously distribution [12:16] <th> providing rock-src with download urls and scripts which produce iso image propably not either [12:17] <netrunner> could it be that our bootdisk is missing the device mapper? [12:17] <th> what if users can "compile" the .gem file on our server on request? [12:17] <th> netrunner: yes. [12:17] <netrunner> th: that explains my troubles in installing your iso on a lvm :) [12:18] <th> netrunner: use my mkinitramfs for this, this includes lvm support [12:18] <th> netrunner: it's not yet in trunk/sm though. but i need some testing [12:18] <netrunner> th: testing is done in trunk [12:18] <netrunner> :) [12:19] <th> hmpf [12:19] <blindcoder> hehe [12:20] <th> hmmm a new personal package in my repo propably does not hurt [12:20] <blindcoder> th: putting it into trunk now also has the advantage that I could use the plugin interface you surely provide in mkinitramfs to move device-mapper over there [12:21] <blindcoder> hmm [12:21] <blindcoder> okay, this doesn't look good [12:21] <blindcoder> I lost two out of three files [12:21] <blindcoder> the rest is in lost+found [12:21] <th> did you resize and move? or move only> [12:21] <blindcoder> resize -s -25M [12:21] <blindcoder> dd [12:21] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree [12:21] <blindcoder> resize [12:22] <th> well perhaps you should do one by one to see which component messed your data [12:22] <blindcoder> I'm sure it's the dd [12:22] Action: daja77_ kicks vim7 [12:22] <th> did you fsck on the dm device with offset after moving? [12:23] <stf^rocklinux> would be nice if LUKS data could reside at the end of partitions as well [12:24] <blindcoder> th: yes [12:25] <th> blindcoder: i guess if you only create a filesystem of 100MB on a 125MB blockdevice. [12:25] <th> bli and then move it by 25MB and use dm with that offset... [12:25] <th> than i dont know how something should go wrong [12:25] <blindcoder> neither do I [12:25] <blindcoder> let's see what I did [12:25] <blindcoder> mkfs.reiserfs /dev/discs/disc0/part2 [12:26] <th> well - could enforce a fs smaller than the block device? [12:26] <blindcoder> mount /dev/discs/disc0/part2 /mnt/generic/ [12:26] <th> so there is room to move? [12:26] <blindcoder> for x in 1 2 3 ; do dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/generic/${x} bs=1M count=${x}00 ; done [12:26] <blindcoder> umount /mnt/generic/ [12:26] <blindcoder> ARGH [12:26] <blindcoder> I know what I fucked up [12:26] <netrunner> daja77_: why? [12:26] <blindcoder> eh no [12:26] <blindcoder> I didn't fuck up there [12:26] <blindcoder> resize_reiserfs -s -25M /dev/discs/disc0/part2 [12:26] <blindcoder> echo " 0 $(( 1992060 - 1032 )) linear /dev/discs/disc0/part2 1032 " | dmsetup create bar [12:27] <blindcoder> for x in $( seq 1930 -1 0 ) ; do echo $x; dd if=/dev/discs/disc0/part2 of=/dev/mapper/bar bs=1032 count=1 skip=$x seek=$x ; done [12:27] <daja77_> netrunner: it never gets syntax hilighting right for the files I created with it [12:27] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs /dev/mapper/bar [12:27] <blindcoder> fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree /dev/mapper/bar [12:27] <blindcoder> resize_reiserfs /dev/mapper/bar [12:27] <blindcoder> that's it [12:35] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-043-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:39] <blindcoder> okay, it's definately the dd [12:39] <blindcoder> since when trying with ext2 e2fsck wets its pants [12:44] <blindcoder> yup [12:44] <blindcoder> creating a filesystem on the dm device and dd'ing it to the physical device works [12:44] <blindcoder> moving it back totally fucks up [12:44] <th> you propably specified a wrong offset or something [12:44] <th> ;-) [12:45] <blindcoder> ARGH [12:45] <th> do a dd|cksum thing to find the glitch [12:45] Action: blindcoder whacks his head on the table [12:45] Last message repeated 5 time(s). [12:45] <th> i like that rythm [12:45] <blindcoder> blockdev --getsize returns the number of 512 byte blocks [12:46] <blindcoder> and I used it as absolute byte count >_< [12:46] <blindcoder> it simply _can't_ work [12:46] <th> hehehe [12:47] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-045-213.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:57] <blindcoder> /dev/mapper/bar on /mnt/generic type reiserfs (rw) [12:57] <blindcoder> YAY [13:10] <stf^rocklinux> php5 fix is here: 2006051713082111778 [13:34] <blindcoder> heeheeeheeeeeee [13:35] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/luks.sh.txt [13:41] <netrunner> blindcoder: jo role3 [13:42] <blindcoder> Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu [13:42] <stf^rocklinux> nice work... let's test it on the root partition :D [13:43] <blindcoder> hehe [13:43] <blindcoder> It's absolutely safe to do so [13:43] Action: blindcoder ducks, runs and hides [13:43] <blindcoder> especially since there is no initrd support code yet :D [13:46] <stf^rocklinux> I assume the first echo block means to say there have to be at least 2MB free on the fs? [13:46] <blindcoder> on the partition [13:46] <stf^rocklinux> so the fs does not use at least 2MB of the partition? [13:47] <blindcoder> correct [13:47] <blindcoder> reload, I've added some more information [13:48] <stf^rocklinux> ah, that's what I was going to ask next :) [13:53] <blindcoder> since I didn't receive an answer to my previous mail I don't think I'll be getting one to this, but I sent this script to the dmcrypt list, anyway [14:00] <fake> YES [14:00] <stf^rocklinux> hope always dies last, so there is still hope... [14:00] <fake> https://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14623 [14:01] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: the english figure of speech is "hope lasts eternal" [14:01] <fake> Java Now Redistributable by Distros; Sun to Open Source Java [14:01] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, we already talked about that earlier :) [14:01] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: but it doesn't mean quite the same [14:01] <blindcoder> fake: I'm concerned about "display of the DLJ" though [14:02] <blindcoder> fake: https://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ-v1.1.txt [14:02] <blindcoder> fake: see #6 [14:02] <blindcoder> 6. What are my obligations under this license? [14:02] <blindcoder> ... [14:02] <blindcoder> - Present for acceptance any end user licenses that are part of the JDK, [14:02] <blindcoder> if such licenses are included in the generic install bundle provided [14:02] <blindcoder> to you for repackaging. [14:02] <blindcoder> ... [14:04] <fake> blindcoder: that would mean we need to show the license on gem installation ? [14:04] <blindcoder> probably. But we have no mechanism for doing that yet [14:04] <blindcoder> we could run it once in postinstall.sh [14:05] <fake> that sucks [14:05] <blindcoder> anyway, I gotta run [14:05] <blindcoder> looking at 5 new places to stay [14:05] <fake> see ya! [14:05] <blindcoder> fake: please have a look at https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/luks.sh.txt and give me a comment about it [14:05] <blindcoder> bye [14:30] <stf^rocklinux> fake: I think that part of the DLJ-FAQ refers to 2. (d) of the DLJ ( https://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-v1.1.txt ): [14:30] <stf^rocklinux> (d) you do not remove or modify any included license [14:30] <stf^rocklinux> agreement or impede or prevent it from displaying and requiring [14:30] <stf^rocklinux> acceptance; [15:27] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-9df2a94d36caedb7) joined #rocklinux. [15:27] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [15:27] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [15:33] <daja77> hi fake [17:43] <blindcoder> re [18:35] madtux (i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com) joined #rocklinux. [18:36] <daja77> hi miguel [18:36] <madtux> Hey Daniel :) [18:49] <esden> hey ho everyone [18:49] <esden> blindcoder: /me messing around with the php installation on pallas once more >_< [18:50] <esden> blindcoder: I need gettext support *sigh* [18:50] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:51] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) joined #rocklinux. [18:57] <esden> what should I do when I get this message? [18:57] <esden> Running main build function 'build_this_package' ... [18:57] <esden> Can't auto-detect srctar for package 'php' [18:58] <esden> *counting_seconds_till_reply* ;) [18:59] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [18:59] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) joined #rocklinux. [19:03] <stf^rocklinux> esden: build either php=php4 or php=php5 [19:04] <esden> aaaha [19:04] <esden> thanks stf^rocklinux [19:04] <stf^rocklinux> np :) [19:05] <stf^rocklinux> esden: btw. for trunk and php5 you'll likely need the php patch from submaster [19:06] <stf^rocklinux> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/?mode=patch&uid=2006051713082111778 [19:08] <esden> stf^rocklinux: ahh good to know ... I acctually have a problem there with pear [19:12] <stf^rocklinux> the patch should fix that; just download the additional file for php5 before rebuilding [19:13] <esden> stf^rocklinux: the checksum for the install-pear-nozlib-2006-05-17.phar is not correct [19:16] <stf^rocklinux> it is here, maybe the file on the download location has changed [19:19] <esden> stf^rocklinux: perhups [19:20] <stf^rocklinux> esden: err, no I messed up the .desc file... [19:20] <stf^rocklinux> I'll fix it in a minute [19:21] <esden> stf^rocklinux: no problem ... I replaced the checksum with 0 ... ;) [19:22] <esden> and php builds now [19:22] <stf^rocklinux> esden: the second last line in the desc file should end with !https://pear.php.net/install-pear-nozlib.phar [19:23] <stf^rocklinux> without it pear might not work [19:23] <esden> humm ... but it builds [19:24] <stf^rocklinux> because the file in question is only copied during build, I guess [19:27] <esden> php tries to download it when it is not there and then fails ... but with your patch it compiles ... so it seams to work [19:27] <esden> and it is installing the pear stuff as it seems [19:27] <stf^rocklinux> take a look at install-pear-nozlib-2006-05-17.phar to see what I mean [19:28] <stf^rocklinux> I guess yours is just a http server response [19:28] <stf^rocklinux> (because the download location was wrong) [20:18] <esden> humm ... that may be [20:23] mnemoc_ (n=amery@216.241.24.10) joined #rocklinux. [20:25] mnemoc (n=amery@216.241.24.10) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:25] Nick change: mnemoc_ -> mnemoc [20:48] <stf^rocklinux> hm, how do I remove a line in vim? [20:50] <daja77> dd [20:51] <stf^rocklinux> thx [21:47] <esden> damn gettext >_< [21:47] <esden> I hate it! [22:47] <daja77> madtux: they are just telling that the .cr soccer team arrived today [22:52] <madtux> daja77, ich wie. [23:13] <daja77> :) [23:13] <daja77> so where are you [00:00] --- Thu May 18 2006