[00:55] Action: Lucifer_arma is back.
[01:20] <th> blindcoder: esden: anyone of you could do a bitlbee update 1.0.1 -> 1.0.2?
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[03:27] <Lucifer_arma> implantisomd5.c:8:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory
[03:27] <Lucifer_arma> implantisomd5.c: In function main:
[03:27] <Lucifer_arma> ?  what package is that in that I need to install?  :)
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[03:55] <Lucifer_arma> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
[03:55] <Lucifer_arma> ?
[04:24] <Lucifer_arma> aha, I accidentally built crystal target for my bootdisk configuration.  :(
[04:40] <stf^rocklinux> to get a bootable ISO, you have to build a bootdisk target as well, then use e.g. scripts/Create-ISO myiso bootdisk crystal
[04:42] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I did that, except when I configured my bootdisk configuration, I accidentally configured it with the crystal (default) target.  Fixed and it's building again.
[04:42] <stf^rocklinux> the bootdisk target on itself is also bootable
[04:42] <Lucifer_arma> I assume that downloading dietlibc is a sign that I finally got the right target in the configuration :)
[04:42] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I should edit the wiki and point this out....
[04:43] Action: Lucifer_arma does it, since he has that page open
[04:43] <stf^rocklinux> feel free to do so :)
[04:43] <Lucifer_arma> nvm, it's already marked.
[04:43] Action: Lucifer_arma tells him to "RTFM"
[04:43] <Lucifer_arma> er
[04:44] Action: Lucifer_arma tells himself  to RTFM
[04:46] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I put one of those big bold "if you don't read this, you're an idiot for screwing it up" messages on there
[04:56] <stf^rocklinux> in the current bootdisk target, dietlibc is not used for building other packages
[04:56] <stf^rocklinux> you can change that via Config (or use uClibc as an alternative), but this is hardly tested atm
[04:57] <Lucifer_arma> doesn't matter.  :)  I just want to see if the damn thing works.
[04:58] <Lucifer_arma> see, if this rock linux is as cool as it looks while building, ummm....  I think all my distribution problems get solved pretty much at once.
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[05:29] <stf^rocklinux> of course, if you can't find something in the manual, you're welcome to ask here or on the mailing lists. not everything is documented yet.
[05:33] <Lucifer_arma> :)  thanks, you guys have been very helpful so far
[05:33] <stf^rocklinux> np :) I'm off now. cu later
[05:33] <Lucifer_arma> later
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[06:33] <blindcoder> moin
[06:49] <Lucifer_arma> so, where do I find the script/application that runs the UI during installation from a cd?
[06:52] <blindcoder> package/base/sysfiles/etc_stone.d_mod_install.sh IIRC
[06:52] <blindcoder> or, on an installed system, /etc/stone.d/mod_install.sh
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[06:55] <Lucifer_arma> stone_mod_install.sh ?
[06:56] <blindcoder> yes
[06:58] <Lucifer_arma> so are you guys partial to a gui toolkit and language?  I'm just thinking ahead...
[06:59] <blindcoder> kde, mostly
[06:59] <blindcoder> since that is also what we use in crystal
[06:59] <blindcoder> but if you have somethnig that is more suited, go aheid
[06:59] <Lucifer_arma> python ok?
[06:59] <blindcoder> ahead
[06:59] <Lucifer_arma> I've just recently learned that pyQt is wonderful :)
[07:01] <blindcoder> hmm, better ask on the mailinglist
[07:01] <blindcoder> I don't think we have anything in python yet
[07:01] <Lucifer_arma> everything I'm seeing is just bash
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[07:02] <blindcoder> bash, a bit of perl and some C
[07:04] <Lucifer_arma> hmmm.  I like thinking I can keep my sanity and generally don't touch perl or C.  I'd be willing to go to C++, or use pyrex to build to C, except you'd still need a python installation
[07:05] <Lucifer_arma> I hate swallowing tea leaves :(
[07:06] <blindcoder> perl and C are quite nice, actually
[07:06] <Lucifer_arma> um, sure.  :)
[07:06] Action: Lucifer_arma doesn't want to get involved in a perl/C flamewar :)
[07:07] <blindcoder> hehe
[07:07] <blindcoder> anyway, gotta run to work now
[07:07] <blindcoder> it'll be a long day :(
[07:07] <Lucifer_arma> have fun
[07:07] <blindcoder> bbl
[07:07] Action: Lucifer_arma works from home.  :)
[07:48] <blindcoder> the good thing about working from home is you're always at home while at work
[07:49] <blindcoder> the bad thing about working from home is you're always at work while at home
[07:49] <Lucifer_arma> :)  that's not entirely true....
[07:49] <Lucifer_arma> but there is a charm in taking a break to play with my 2-year old
[07:50] <blindcoder> hehe, true
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[09:23] <Lucifer_arma> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
[09:23] <Lucifer_arma> this time I built the bootdisk target :(
[09:23] <blindcoder> did you also point create-iso to it?
[09:24] <Lucifer_arma> ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk default
[09:24] <blindcoder> meep
[09:24] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-ISO mycdset bootdisk default
[09:24] <blindcoder> the first parameter is the name of the cd images that are being created
[09:24] <Lucifer_arma> aha
[09:25] <Lucifer_arma> different output this time :)
[09:26] <Lucifer_arma> added that little tidbit to the wiki :/
[09:27] <Lucifer_arma> ok, cd booted in qemu, thanks :)
[09:27] <blindcoder> have fun :)
[09:27] Action: Lucifer_arma intends to :)
[09:33] <Lucifer_arma> I'm such a failure
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[09:53] <blindcoder> why?
[09:58] <Lucifer_arma> the thing broke down when installing
[09:58] <Lucifer_arma> said the packages weren't on the disc
[09:59] <Lucifer_arma> I'm using a custom target, lemme look at the others to see what they did
[09:59] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I copied the lines from the crystal build.sh file
[09:59] <Lucifer_arma> that's what I did, and it's broke apparently, at least for me
[10:02] <Lucifer_arma> I take it back, I copied the generic build.sh script
[10:08] <Lucifer_arma> the packages are on the cd image
[10:11] <Lucifer_arma> Can't find: /mnt/source/TRUNKblahblah/pkgs/00-dirtree-0000-0.gem
[10:17] <Lucifer_arma> scripts/functions: line 579: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db.tmp: No such file or directory
[10:17] <Lucifer_arma> I turned on somethingsomething_GEM in the config.in file, and this is what I get when I try to build
[10:18] <th> out of disk space?
[10:20] <Lucifer_arma> 67% usage on a 40GB partition
[10:21] <th> ok. just checking.
[10:21] <Lucifer_arma> :)  good question, I had to run df to answer it
[10:21] <th> are you sure you need your own target?
[10:22] <th> not only your own package selection?
[10:22] <Lucifer_arma> not entirely sure, no.
[10:22] <Lucifer_arma> I just stumbled across rock yesterday, I'm not really in a position to say how I should make it do what I'm wanting.  )
[10:23] <Lucifer_arma> but I figured making my own target would give me the best look at the internals I can get short of actually digging in hardcore
[10:23] <th> what command resulted in "scripts/functions: line 579: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db.tmp: No such file or directory"?
[10:23] <Lucifer_arma> ./scripts/Build-Target
[10:24] <th> and you are running it as root?
[10:24] <Lucifer_arma> this was, ummm, let's see.  I made the target by copying the generic target stuff and changing the package list
[10:24] <Lucifer_arma> yes
[10:25] <Lucifer_arma> when I first built the target, that GEM setting was 0.  Which resulted in the iso image that gave the other error message I typed in (can't copy and paste from qemu)
[10:25] <th> and you build host is crystal?
[10:25] <Lucifer_arma> changed the GEM setting to 1, ran ./scripts/Config
[10:25] <Lucifer_arma> no, it's Kubuntu
[10:25] <th> i see
[10:25] <th> well the packages.db.tmp is created just above line 579
[10:25] <th> so i assume something went wrong there
[10:26] <th> do you have any more verbose output?
[10:26] <Lucifer_arma> it's not lying, the file isn't there
[10:26] <th> yes. it failed to create it
[10:26] <th> it's created just before being used
[10:27] <th> you cant give shell access to that machine?
[10:27] <Lucifer_arma> http://www.davefancella.com/build_target_26940.log
[10:28] <Lucifer_arma> actually, I can't, sorry.  :(
[10:28] <th> hmm the Built-Target did not build anything
[10:28] <Lucifer_arma> it already built the first time, when I didn't have the GEM setting
[10:28] <th> prpably because it found everything built
[10:28] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I need to Cleanup and start it again?
[10:28] <th> well.
[10:28] <th> creating the gem happens after building
[10:29] <th> directly after building the package
[10:29] <th> so if it was not enabled.
[10:29] <th> then you have no gem now.
[10:29] <th> and that's why it can create the packages.db i think
[10:29] <Lucifer_arma> ok, on the other side then, is it possible to get the cdrom to not require the gem?
[10:29] <th> whats in your $build/var/adm/descs/ ?
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[10:30] <Lucifer_arma> big ol' package list
[10:30] <th> Lucifer_arma: you dont need gems. the alternative is tar.bz2 packages. but that will cause trouble with the installer. but you dont need the installer neither
[10:30] <Lucifer_arma> I'm trying to build an installer :)
[10:31] <th> do you have tar.bz2 packages in the pkgs dir?
[10:31] <Lucifer_arma> I'm not trying to install anything, I'm trying to build an installer that I can run through qemu and see how it all works
[10:31] <Lucifer_arma> yes, a whole bunch of them
[10:31] <th> ok.
[10:31] <Lucifer_arma> well, nto a whole bunch, but the ones that are supposed to be there anyway
[10:32] <th> so the problem is that you changed the ROCKCFG_CREATE_GEM after creating the packages
[10:32] <th> it assumes that you have created gems when building
[10:32] <th> you can just undo that setting.
[10:32] <Lucifer_arma> if I delete the packages, will it recompile all the packages, or will it just repackage them?
[10:32] <th> and craete a cd with tbz2
[10:32] <Lucifer_arma> the iso with that setting set to 0 didn't work, it resulted in the other error message
[10:33] <th> and make your installer able to see what you have (tbz2/gem)
[10:33] <Lucifer_arma> <Lucifer_arma> Can't find: /mnt/source/TRUNKblahblah/pkgs/00-dirtree-0000-0.gem   <--- from the installer running in qemu
[10:33] <th> as i said the installer has problems when you not have gems
[10:33] <th> but you said you wanted to write a new installer
[10:33] <Lucifer_arma> ok, how do I make the installer see what I have?
[10:34] <th> so make your installer more intelligent than the current one (read: make it not assume .gem only)
[10:34] <Lucifer_arma> ah, no, ummm.  I want to see rock's installer work, and the resulting installation.
[10:34] <th> then you should have GEMs enabled on package build time
[10:34] <Lucifer_arma> that's what I'm after right now, everything else I might throw out is conditional on this part.  :)
[10:34] <Lucifer_arma> ok, so cleanup and rebuild?
[10:35] <Lucifer_arma> if I just delete the packages, will it rebuild the packages without having to recompile everything?
[10:35] <th> that would be the easiest. but may take a while. you could try to just convert the tars to gems
[10:35] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, it'll take around 4 hours or so to rebuild
[10:35] <Lucifer_arma> and I'm going to bed in about an hour :)
[10:35] <Lucifer_arma> so how do I convert the tars to gems?
[10:36] <th> you can either convert or just create the gems from the metadata in your build dir.
[10:36] <th> /var/adm that s
[10:36] <th> is
[10:36] <th> you want to chroot into it
[10:36] <th> and use the mine command
[10:36] <th> mine -C and mine -T
[10:37] <th> first `mine -T /var/adm / $pkg /tmp/t`
[10:38] <th> then `mine -C /var/adm /tmp/t $pkg $pkg-$ver.gem`
[10:40] <Lucifer_arma> would I have to type that for each package?
[10:40] <blindcoder> for pkg in /var/adm/packages/* ; do pkg=${pkg##*/} ; mine -T ... ; mine -C ... ; done
[10:40] <blindcoder> :)
[10:41] <Lucifer_arma> mine: invalid option -- C
[10:41] <th> hmm?
[10:41] <th> mine --help
[10:43] <Lucifer_arma> Create GEM (-C) and .tar.bz2 (-T) package files from installed packages:
[10:43] <Lucifer_arma>     mine -C var-adm-dir package-tar-bz2 package-name gem-file
[10:44] <Lucifer_arma> maybe I did something wrong with the chroot
[10:45] <Lucifer_arma> wait a minute, if gem support was disabled, would it have built mine with it anyway?
[10:45] <blindcoder> yes
[10:46] <Lucifer_arma> bash-2.05b# mine -C /var/adm mine.tar.bz2 mine mine.gem
[10:46] <Lucifer_arma> While writing key 'pkg_tarbz2': No such file or directory
[10:47] <Lucifer_arma> just  copied and pasted an example from the help screen :)
[10:47] <blindcoder> did you create the mine.tar.bz2 before?
[10:47] <th> what was your mine -T command?
[10:47] <Lucifer_arma> none
[10:47] <th> 10:33:28 < th> first `mine -T /var/adm / $pkg /tmp/t`
[10:47] <th> 10:33:45 < th> then `mine -C /var/adm /tmp/t $pkg $pkg-$ver.gem`
[10:48] <Lucifer_arma> ok, got the -T command in there
[10:48] <Lucifer_arma> it ran
[10:48] <Lucifer_arma> there's a mine.gem file here now
[10:49] <Lucifer_arma> check the for loop :)  I'm not good with bash
[10:50] <th> then use another shell ;)
[10:50] <Lucifer_arma> bash is the only one I know :)
[10:50] <Lucifer_arma> for pkg in `ls /var/adm/packages/*`  <-- made this change and it appears to be working
[10:50] <Lucifer_arma> no, nvm, doesn't appear to be working
[10:51] <th> UUOL
[10:52] <th> perhaps dont do the for loop
[10:52] <th> just ls /var/..* > list
[10:52] <th> and work on the list
[10:53] <th> perhaps you know an editor and can do some tricks with macros, to change the list file to a command listing with both mine commands
[10:54] <Lucifer_arma> I could also just get smarter and realize that "..." isn't weird shell syntax, it literally means "put wht he wrote here"
[10:54] <Lucifer_arma> you know, so I could copy and paste correctly from irc client
[10:55] Action: Lucifer_arma blushes :)
[10:55] <blindcoder> :)
[10:55] <th> hehe
[10:55] <blindcoder> I was just being a lazy typer
[11:06] <Lucifer_arma> No such file or directory: build/default-TRUNK-x86-carlinux/ROCK/pkgs/packages.db  <--- output from Create-ISO
[11:07] <Lucifer_arma> did I miss something again?
[11:11] <Lucifer_arma> do pkg=${pkg##*/}  <--- there's no version extracted
[11:16] Action: Lucifer_arma thinks he knows what he missed
[11:23] <Lucifer_arma> ok, two problems.  There's no version in the .gem filename, and I'm not sure I'm putting the .gem files in the right place
[11:23] <Lucifer_arma> do they go in ROCK/pkgs?
[11:23] <Lucifer_arma> and how do I get a version in the filename?
[11:31] <Lucifer_arma> nvm, cleared out the logs and restarted
[11:32] <Lucifer_arma> going to bed soon anyway
[11:35] <th> 11:18:53 < Lucifer_arma> do they go in ROCK/pkgs?
[11:35] <th> yes
[11:35] <th> v=-$(grep '^Package Name and Version' \
[11:35] <th> $admdir/packages/$pkg | cut -f6,7 -d' ' | tr ' ' -)
[11:36] <th> v=-$(grep '^Package Name and Version' $admdir/packages/$pkg | cut -f6,7 -d' ' | tr ' ' -)
[11:36] <th> while admdir=/var/adm
[11:56] <esden> moin everyone
[12:13] <Lucifer_arma> so, how do I install a built distribution by hand?
[12:18] <th> well
[12:18] <th> just extract the tars
[12:19] <Lucifer_arma> on an empty partition?
[12:20] <th> yes
[12:21] <th> and you should chroot into it mount /proc /sys /dev, and run cron.run and postinstall
[12:21] <th> i might've forgotten something but we'll see on the error message then
[12:22] <Lucifer_arma> hmm, decided to just run another build.  I'm going to bed now, might as well just leave it all going and hope my computer doesn't melt while I'm sleeping
[12:22] <Lucifer_arma> thanks!  you've been very helpful.  :)
[12:23] <th> hehe
[12:23] <th> no problem - you're welcome
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[13:13] <daja77_> are there any objections to switch to postgresql 8.1 series?
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[13:52] <Lucifer_arma> so, I see that I can make a .init file for a package to have an init script
[13:52] <Lucifer_arma> what if the package provides its own init script, and I just want to install that?
[13:53] <blindcoder> you most probably don't
[13:53] <blindcoder> have a look at a few example .init scripts
[13:53] <blindcoder> the scripts provided by packages mostly don't fit into the ROCK way(TM)
[13:53] <blindcoder> for example these two lines:
[13:53] <blindcoder> # Desc: dovecot IMAP Daemon
[13:53] <blindcoder> # Runlevel: 99 rcX
[13:54] <blindcoder> the first is the short description provided in STONE (Setup Tool ONE)
[13:54] <blindcoder> the second defines startup priority and default runlevels
[13:56] <Lucifer_arma> aha.  then it's probably good we made a configure option to not install the init script :)
[14:00] <th> Lucifer_arma: talking asleep?
[14:01] <daja77_> hehe
[14:01] <Lucifer_arma> yeah.  this is what I do, I say I'm going to sleep, and then lurk for another hour or so
[14:01] <daja77_> hi th
[14:02] <Lucifer_arma> is there a how-to write a .init file document somehwere?  I'm looking at apache and dhcpd init files right now...
[14:03] <th> yea hi daja77_ 
[14:03] <th> oh my journal build finished
[14:03] <th> yesterday already
[14:03] <daja77_> th: do you you have an opinion on the postgres thing?
[14:04] <th> no.
[14:04] <th> i'm not even aware of it.
[14:04] <daja77_> they made security releases of all branches
[14:04] <th> i see
[14:04] <th> ahh and you want to switch the branch
[14:04] <th> (..we use)
[14:04] <daja77_> but i'd like to switch the branch on the way
[14:05] <th> if there are no regressions... i'm all for it
[14:05] <daja77_> ok
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[14:08] <th> i dislike the _cd1 prefix when creating one-cd iso only.
[14:19] <th> th20060522-journal isos are uploading
[14:24] <daja77_> grmpf
[14:24] <daja77_> curl: (9) Server denied you to change to the given directory
[14:31] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77
[14:35] <Lucifer_arma> it would be nice to hve some output to tell me which configuration is building and what target it's building
[14:35] <Lucifer_arma> on the off chance that someone would be crazy/stupid enough to run two builds in different terminals simultaneously
[14:35] <Lucifer_arma> goodnight :)
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[14:53] <daja77> ok posgres 8.1.4 builds fine
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[15:20] <blindcoder> btw, is anyone doig a reference build on the Roadmap stuff? th? fake? clifford?
[15:51] <th> blindcoder: i've build a full reference for my current journal
[15:51] <th> blindcoder: iso will be available shortly
[15:54] <th> has any one time to do detailed testing of that iso?
[15:54] <stf^rocklinux> th: I could do a test installation or two...
[15:55] <th> that would help. i think i'll install it as well. but i'd like to have some more test results
[15:55] <th> http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/teha/th20060522/crystal-th20060522_cd1.iso
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[16:03] <blindcoder> th: I can test it tomorrow
[16:03] <th> cool
[16:03] <blindcoder> th: what patches have you put into it?
[16:03] <th> see /info.txt in same directory
[16:03] <th> or see journal "th20060522" in smng
[16:04] <th> based on r7592
[16:05] <blindcoder> looks sweet
[16:05] <th> quite some important stuff in
[16:05] <blindcoder> yeah
[16:06] <blindcoder> guess I'll install it on crazyhorse tomorrow
[16:06] <blindcoder> P4/RAMBus/NVidia Card
[16:06] <th> would be cool if we test one installation as an update
[16:06] <th> with the new mine feature ":legacy"
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[16:07] <stf^rocklinux> th: I could do that in qemu
[16:07] <th> ok.
[16:07] <stf^rocklinux> th: is it pmmx optimized?
[16:07] <th> i think i can try it on an old 2.0.3
[16:07] <th> stf^rocklinux: uhhh
[16:08] <th> stf^rocklinux: it might be p2 this time
[16:08] <th> export ROCKCFG_X86_OPT='pentium2'
[16:08] <th> ack
[16:08] <stf^rocklinux> ok
[16:13] <th> aha
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[16:15] <th> why dont we have a rock-cloak?
[16:15] <stf^rocklinux> th: so no install on my pmmx this time... btw. rocklinux.org looks kind of crappy in konqueror... the navigation bar is below the main text... 
[16:15] <daja77> which konqueror?
[16:15] <th> stf^rocklinux: yea - clifford already pointed out. we need some CSS experience to fix it.
[16:16] <th> daja77: not all of them
[16:16] <stf^rocklinux> 3.5.2 here
[16:16] <daja77> ok the recent one :/
[16:16] <stf^rocklinux> I'm just reading Mediawiki docs, maybe there's a hint there
[16:17] <daja77> th: dunno, i had one in euirc
[16:18] <th> i'm off till tonight now. cya
[16:18] <daja77> cu
[16:19] <stf^rocklinux> cu
[16:21] <stf^rocklinux> there's also two other changes to the toolbar/navigation bar I'd like to make: 1) add a Download link to the navigation bar, and 2) move the Random page to the toolbox
[16:22] <stf^rocklinux> oh, and 3) add iso.rocklinux.de to external links
[16:22] <blindcoder> th: because I am fine with my tor/regular cloak :)
[16:22] <daja77> just do it ..
[16:25] <stf^rocklinux> it'd required admin privileges for rocklinux.org :(
[16:25] <blindcoder> let's see
[16:25] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: where do I change that?
[16:26] <daja77> MediaWiki:Sidebar
[16:26] <stf^rocklinux> yeah
[16:27] <stf^rocklinux> haven't found the page for the toolbox yet
[16:29] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I've created a Download page that could be linked to in the nav-bar btw.
[16:29] <blindcoder> done
[16:30] <stf^rocklinux> thx
[16:30] <blindcoder> 2) move the Random page to the toolbox
[16:30] <blindcoder> is still open
[16:31] <stf^rocklinux> that's not that important
[16:32] <stf^rocklinux> people like me might wonder why one should want to visit a random page ^^
[16:35] <daja77> you could remove the random page from sidebar
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[16:40] <daja77> this seems to be in the monobook style
[16:40] <daja77> look how they changed everything http://www.wikihow.com/Main-Page
[18:45] <stf^rocklinux> th: $topic requires misses udev{settle,trigger} in the initrd, see 2006052418410229579
[18:46] <th> hmmm
[18:46] <th> i was almost sure that i did add that patch
[18:46] <stf^rocklinux> the patch I mean is a hotfix I've just added
[18:46] <th> ah
[18:46] <th> damn. ok.
[18:47] <th> that's a big showstopper i guess
[18:47] <stf^rocklinux> yes, no /dev files in initrd :(
[18:48] <th> hmmm.. what do i need to rebuild after changing target/bootdisk/initrd/initrd_bootdisk?
[18:48] <stf^rocklinux> just ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg bootdisk
[18:48] <th> k
[18:54] <th> fixed - and syncing changed iso
[18:55] <stf^rocklinux> can I somehow download the hotfix to the iso only?
[18:57] <th> the binary delta is too big i'm afraid
[18:57] <th> even rsync can't save a lot
[19:02] <stf^rocklinux> ok, please tell me when syncing is done
[19:04] <th> ok. i'll just replace the old iso
[19:04] <th> isos
[19:05] <th> done
[19:06] <th> stf^rocklinux: u can redownload now
[19:06] <stf^rocklinux> ok
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux> daja: qemu update is here curl -O http://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/unofficial/teha/th20060522/crystal-th20060522_cd1.iso
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux>                                                         
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux> err...
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux> here 2006052421225016810
[21:26] <stf^rocklinux> daja77: now building qemu when gcc4 is default compiler works :) (qemu still cannot be built with gcc4, however)
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[22:09] <th> stf^rocklinux: this means we need to add another compiler?
[22:09] <stf^rocklinux> th: if you want to build qemu, yes
[22:09] <stf^rocklinux> th: but qemu is not part of Crystal
[22:10] <th> ahh ok
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> btw. we should really add linux-sources to Crystal, adding external kernel modules without it is difficult :(
[22:12] <th> i totally agree
[22:13] <stf^rocklinux> I'll create a patch for that...
[22:15] <stf^rocklinux> th: 2006052422145430967
[22:16] <th> stf^rocklinux: i'll add it to my next journal then.
[22:21] <stf^rocklinux> so downloading your latest iso didn't work here yet, but I'm currently testing my journal build which is quite similar...
[22:21] <th> downloading didn't work?
[22:23] <stf^rocklinux> 0 bytes transferred until now... maybe the internet connection here is overloaded or blocked :S
[22:23] <stf^rocklinux> seems to be a local problem
[22:27] <daja77_> re
[22:59] <stf^rocklinux> wb daja77. qemu update is here: 2006052421225016810
[23:05] <daja77_> mom
[23:21] <daja77_> hm you split up the package
[23:30] <stf^rocklinux> yes, kqemu can (now) be built completely independent of qemu, and building both in one package is more complicated than necessary...
[23:31] <daja77_> can they be installed in parallel?
[23:31] <stf^rocklinux> yes, kqemu contains only the kernel module
[23:32] <daja77_> nice
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