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[02:01] SteffenP (n=steffen@fortuna.bingo-ev.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:29] th (n=th@bozeman.hbsn.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:30] th (n=th@bozeman.hbsn.de) joined #rocklinux. [02:34] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:41] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:59] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-105-159.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:07] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-106-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:07] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [04:06] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [04:11] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-fe1614f65fb4d560) joined #rocklinux. [04:29] SteffenP (n=steffen@fortuna.bingo-ev.de) joined #rocklinux. [05:01] SteffenP (n=steffen@fortuna.bingo-ev.de) left irc: "https://www.bomberclone.de" [05:24] sparc-kly (n=PrLora@64.237.248.56) joined #rocklinux. [05:38] sparc-kl1 (n=PrLora@64.237.241.192) joined #rocklinux. [05:59] sparc-kly (n=PrLora@64.237.248.56) left irc: Connection timed out [06:26] sparc-kl1 (n=PrLora@64.237.241.192) left irc: "Get MacIrssi - https://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/" [09:17] <blindcoder> moin [09:53] <stf^rocklinux> moin moin [09:57] <th> jo [09:57] lonn (n=sam@fla93-1-81-57-168-33.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [09:58] <blindcoder> th: what's the state of $TOPIC? [09:58] <blindcoder> th: anything that I need to watch out for when installing crystal? [09:58] <th> just test everything [09:58] <th> perhaps we should finally write down some words on testing procedures [09:58] <blindcoder> yeah [09:59] <blindcoder> well, my test would be installing, booting gui, testing sound+nvidia [10:00] <blindcoder> FF+TB integration [10:00] <th> perhaps something like starting koffice [10:00] <th> and not to forget using USBstick [10:00] <th> or cdrom [10:00] <blindcoder> *nod* [10:01] <blindcoder> got some of these here [10:01] <blindcoder> hal+dbus stuff [10:09] <stf^rocklinux> the most basic test is to compile the whole thing, of course :) [10:11] <stf^rocklinux> How about a short checklist? [10:11] <th> yea [10:11] <stf^rocklinux> Like bootdisk and crystal build, are bootable, can be installed, etc. [10:22] <stf^rocklinux> well, I think building bootdisk and Crystal, booting the distro from CD and installing it and finally using it a bit should be good enough [10:24] <th> and i think we should detail the "using it a bit". [10:24] nookie (n=nookie@M319P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:27] <th> like checking the kde menu [10:27] <th> testing that su works. [10:28] <th> blindcoder: btw - your stone module for dm... if i enter it and cancel... then initrd is recreated. [10:28] <th> blindcoder: that shouldn't happen [10:30] <stf^rocklinux> to me 'using it a bit' usually means creating a user, configuring and starting X, building tvtime, testing audio and TV card, maybe printer, and starting some random programs. [10:32] <th> btw where is the loopback devices in /dev gone? [10:32] <stf^rocklinux> it's called /dev/loop0 now [10:33] <th> doesn't exist [10:34] <th> oh [10:34] <th> wow [10:34] <th> it's not in kernel [10:34] <th> how can that work at all? [10:37] <stf^rocklinux> maybe you don't use it? [10:38] <stf^rocklinux> but strange it's not in the kernel [10:39] <th> well. i just forgot it. it's not the default kernel [10:39] lonn (n=sam@fla93-1-81-57-168-33.fbx.proxad.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:04] <blindcoder> th: ack [12:12] nookie (n=nookie@M319P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Client Quit [13:07] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-1ab6a1c50508e811) joined #rocklinux. [13:07] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [13:37] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [15:47] <daja77> oh so blindy is moving too [17:07] <blindcoder> daja77: yeah :) [17:10] <blindcoder> me installing $TOPIC crystal [19:14] feistel (n=feistel@190.55.17.25) joined #rocklinux. [19:15] feistel (n=feistel@190.55.17.25) left #rocklinux. [20:26] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: at least no big showstoppers this time :) [20:26] <blindcoder> oh, there are [20:26] <blindcoder> the udev one and the checkisomd5sum one [20:27] <blindcoder> and I consider the keyboard layout a showstopper, too [20:31] <stf^rocklinux> in the debian udev package, it seems those modalias_ files are required only for older kernels, see my latest patch [20:32] <stf^rocklinux> I can fix the checkisomd5sum one... [20:34] <blindcoder> \o/ [20:41] <stf^rocklinux> see 2006060320392215120 (it's untested, though) [20:42] <blindcoder> heh, looks nice :) [20:42] <stf^rocklinux> sweet, livecd target works again :D [20:43] <blindcoder> YAY [20:52] lonn (n=sam@fla93-1-81-57-168-33.fbx.proxad.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:10] <th> . [21:15] <stf^rocklinux> .. [21:15] <blindcoder> ... [21:17] <th> sweet [21:18] <th> the nvidiafb module... i guess there is a depmod call missing. [21:18] <th> after depmod the modules.alias file should not contain the file and thus udev should not load it by pciid [21:19] <stf^rocklinux> th: i've written a postinstall script that runs depmod -ae for all updated kernels [21:20] <th> but that's stage1 [21:21] <stf^rocklinux> th: ok, that's different. so depmod should be run on the initrd root as well (when it is created)? [21:21] <blindcoder> th: nvidiafb is just an example [21:21] <blindcoder> th: it's called for a dozen-odd modules [21:22] <stf^rocklinux> but for me it's not a real problem, here the radeon module is simply loaded afterwards in stage 2 [21:23] <stf^rocklinux> to me it's currently a cosmetic problem [21:23] <blindcoder> it's a major at least [21:23] <blindcoder> no errormessages! [21:23] <blindcoder> I don't care if you just turn them off using sysrq [21:24] <stf^rocklinux> I don't, I simply ignore them :) [21:25] <blindcoder> if I put in a cd and the first thing I see are a dozen-odd errormessage [21:25] <blindcoder> s [21:25] <blindcoder> I would be _very_ wary of continuing [21:32] <stf^rocklinux> I think most people would ignore those errors and just try how far they get... [21:32] <stf^rocklinux> but of course fixing it is better [21:47] <stf^rocklinux> th: I think we could apply your journal since it does not seem to introduce new errors... [21:54] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-042-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:02] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-039-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:03] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@tor/session/external/x-d7df9b6383b90ee8) joined #rocklinux. [23:04] blindcoder (n=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [00:00] --- Sun Jun 4 2006