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[07:10] <blindcoder> moin
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[09:06] <blindcoder> th: ping
[09:32] <th> blindcoder: pong
[09:33] <blindcoder> th: moin
[09:33] <th> *yawn*
[09:33] <blindcoder> th: seems like submaster stopped sending mails
[09:33] <th> uh
[09:33] <th> that's not so good
[09:34] <blindcoder> *nod*
[09:34] <blindcoder> at least I haven't received any for todays two patches
[09:35] <th> [SM-2006061902280425150] Added by stf
[09:35] <th> [SM-2006061521361331449] new msg by stf:
[09:35] <th> that's my two sm mails for today
[09:36] <blindcoder> indeed
[09:36] <blindcoder> and I added two patches in the last hour
[09:40] <th> hmm
[09:42] <th> strange
[09:42] <th> does not seem to be stuck in q
[09:43] <th> that's something for cliff ;-/
[09:43] <th> i know too few to debug it
[09:43] <blindcoder> ok
[09:49] <blindcoder> th: could you have a look at 2006061908474930191 and 2006061909025830571?
[09:49] <th> what's the status with the bc_20060614_nofeature_cd1?
[09:49] <th> did you do testing?
[09:49] <blindcoder> th: it's what my install report from yesterday is based on
[09:50] <th> lemme ask to binary questions:
[09:50] <th> did it introduce new bugs?
[09:50] <th> did you do the complete testing cycle?
[09:51] <blindcoder> no new bugs that I noticed
[09:51] <blindcoder> and since they're only runtime parts, I did not do a full build but only a runtime test
[09:51] <th> i did the full build and provided the ISO
[09:53] <blindcoder> th: ah, those
[09:53] <blindcoder> th: no new bugs in the changed code. tested the same way I did last time
[09:53] <th> ya talking of bc_20060614_nofeature
[09:53] <blindcoder> th: yeah
[09:54] <th> does this same way comply with our testing procedure? ;-)
[09:54] <blindcoder> th: anyway, installed, tested the checksumming, tested some other things, the basic stuff, same as last time
[09:54] <blindcoder> user management, X installation, all that
[09:54] <th> fine
[09:55] <th> you could've said that earlier ;)
[09:55] <th> committing journal
[09:56] <blindcoder> thanks :)
[09:56] <th> Committed revision 7667.
[09:56] <th> at least the commit emails seem to work
[10:01] <th> somehow i feel like - we still need some time to fix some rock internal things so that i could do some updates in that time.
[10:02] <th> speaking of kde, cups and perhaps xorg
[10:02] <th> might be worth a try
[10:02] <blindcoder> what needs to be fixed?
[10:03] <th> i consider some things SMP mentioned real show stoppers
[10:03] <th> but as i see stf worked on the bdb one
[10:04] <blindcoder> yeah, but he can't decide what he wants
[10:04] <th> no?
[10:04] <blindcoder> first it's "hotplug, rockplug hwscan must die!!!11!!11oneeleven"
[10:04] <blindcoder> then it's "this is a joke, right?"
[10:04] <th> well he's right with this.
[10:05] <blindcoder> oh yeah, because nothing will improve quality like insulting the author
[10:05] <th> ignore the insulting parts
[10:05] <th> focus on the thing
[10:06] <blindcoder> then there isn't really much left
[10:06] <th> how often have you insulted udev folks?
[10:06] <blindcoder> well, I did. that's why there's a second version of the fooplug/hwscan remover
[10:06] <blindcoder> directly? probably never, noone of them reads what I write :)
[10:08] <blindcoder> even then, I usually say how I think things should work
[10:08] <blindcoder> and not just "this stinks" and "that stinks"
[10:09] <th> this does not change the fact that he's right with stinking-reports
[10:10] <blindcoder> yeah, but not about the place he reports them at
[10:10] <blindcoder> anyway, what was left to do?
[10:10] <th> i dont have the complete overview
[10:10] <th> but i'm going to test the bdb/automake thing from stf
[10:10] <blindcoder> bdb was done by stf, and fooplug/hwscan was started by me (probably not finished yet)
[10:11] <th> so that's where i said that there might be enough time for kde+cups update
[10:11] <blindcoder> yeah
[10:11] <blindcoder> since we're not officially in a feature-freeze yet
[10:13] <blindcoder> th: I don't know if livecd makes use of hwscan. if it doesn't, everything should be fine
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[10:42] <esdentem> moin
[10:42] <esdentem> blindcoder: have you read my comment on your bluetooth mp3 player?
[10:43] <blindcoder> esdentem: yeah
[10:43] <esdentem> good ;)
[10:43] <blindcoder> esdentem: just haven't had time to have a close look yet
[10:43] <esdentem> it is not exactly the thing you requested ... but something in that direction
[10:43] <blindcoder> yeah, at least something :)
[10:43] <esdentem> next semester I will have to build an mp3 player for a project at FH ...
[10:44] <esdentem> I will consider your request in that project ;)
[10:44] <blindcoder> \o/
[10:44] <esdentem> *GG*
[11:46] <blindcoder> daja77: sendmail 8.13.7, fixes remote DoS
[12:08] <daja77> in progress ..
[12:09] <daja77> esdentem: no game console?
[12:23] <daja77> blindcoder: btw does submaster throws errors at you too?
[12:23] <blindcoder> daja77: well, it doesn't send mails when I upload a patch
[12:24] <blindcoder> also, I don't get the "Patch 432984239 submitted"
[12:25] <daja77> yep and because of that the local patchfile is not removed, that's why I had duplicates yesterday
[12:25] <blindcoder> it is with rock_commit_patch.sh :-)
[12:26] <daja77> Error while uploading patch: 060619_122413_16541
[12:26] <daja77> ..
[13:38] <esdentem> daja77: not for the project at FH
[13:38] <esdentem> daja77: it is too complicated for that
[13:44] <daja77> :)
[13:46] <blindcoder> I'm bored
[13:48] Action: daja77 playing mi2
[13:50] Action: blindcoder at work, wasting brain cycles
[13:51] <esdentem> blindcoder: then share your braincycles ... 
[13:51] <esdentem> There are enough people that could use them ... like politicians for example ;)
[13:51] <blindcoder> pearls before swine
[14:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: you know "Geebas on Parade"?
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[14:58] <esdentem_> blindcoder: no I do not know that
[14:58] <blindcoder> esdentem_: as a role-player, you really should :D
[14:59] <blindcoder> esdentem_: http://geebasonparade.keenspot.com
[15:00] <blindcoder> esdentem_: http://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20030620.html
[15:02] <blindcoder> esdentem_: can't find it now, but one of the best I've seen there:
[15:03] <blindcoder> esdentem_: Jenny sneaks up on someone. Someone: "DOOM! DEATH! LIGHTNING STORM! DEATH! DOOM!" - Jenny is reduced to a smoking pile of ashes - Someone: "Oh yeah, err... uhm... What do I see?"
[15:08] <esdentem_> blindcoder: that is very amusing ;)
[15:09] <blindcoder> esdentem_: LARP in a nutshell: http://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20040818.html
[15:10] <blindcoder> esdentem_: feels like kendo :)
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[15:13] <esdentem> blindcoder: you would pretty much rock as a knight on a larp ;)
[15:14] <blindcoder> esdentem: you mean I'd be the only one who knows how to properly handle a sword? :)
[15:14] <esdentem> blindcoder: pretty much, yes
[15:15] <blindcoder> damn, I hope the next three months pass quickly
[15:15] <esdentem> why?
[15:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: that won't help me anything if damage is called by the dice
[15:15] <esdentem> if you whish that times passes quickly it is feeling just like the opposite
[15:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: because then the Berlin Kendo League "Kendomonster" will start into its third season
[15:16] <esdentem> blindcoder: LARP not PNP
[15:16] <esdentem> blindcoder: LARP (Live Adventure Role Playing) PNP (Pen And Paper)
[15:16] <blindcoder> esdentem: depends on the ruleset I guess
[15:17] <esdentem> blindcoder: today only the real freaks use dice in LARP's
[15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: according to Arienna (I think, I'm not sure) there are some LARPs where you actually get down to throw your dice
[15:17] <esdentem> they are pretty seldom
[15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: heh, okay. Never been to one, really
[15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: hell, I never even played a PNP
[15:19] <esdentem> blindcoder: you should change that some day ;)
[15:20] <blindcoder> esdentem: yeah, some time between 4 kendo trainings a week, moving, hanging out at Alex' bar, hacking and procrastinating
[15:21] <blindcoder> I need a job as a professional slacker
[15:25] <blindcoder> and I can't go to kendo training all week *cry*
[15:30] <esdentem> hehe ... then you really have planty of time ;)
[15:31] <blindcoder> no, today I have "ernaehrungsberatung" as well as thursday
[15:31] <blindcoder> wednesday my boss will visit
[15:31] <blindcoder> and bring toys :D
[15:31] <blindcoder> friday I will need to put those toys to good use
[15:32] <blindcoder> the weekend is still free
[15:48] <blindcoder> esdentem: *cough* http://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20050504.html
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[16:08] <DE43741> helo
[16:08] <blindcoder> moin
[16:09] <DE43741> sorry, hatt die haende in bandagen, bin auf die nase geflogen...
[16:09] <DE43741> zu fuss, ohne moped
[16:09] <blindcoder> o_O
[16:09] <blindcoder> wie macht man sowas?
[16:10] <DE43741> ausrutschen und treppe runter ?
[16:10] <blindcoder> ehm...
[16:10] <blindcoder> aua?
[16:10] <DE43741> abstieg uebers gelaender, hand aufreissen... und dann richtig langlegen
[16:10] <blindcoder> juhu! spass^2
[16:11] <DE43741> jo... 
[16:11] <DE43741> aber so richtig
[16:11] <blindcoder> erinnert mich an letzten montag, als mich nico fast bewusstlos gedroschen hat
[16:12] <daja77> O_o
[16:12] <blindcoder> viel kaputt?
[16:12] <blindcoder> ausser dem selbstvertrauen
[16:14] <DE43741> nee, dem selbstvertr. gehts gut, haende waren halt eingebunden, weil die haut gefehlt hat... nennt sich ablederung
[16:14] <DE43741> und die linke seite war halt komplett blau...
[16:14] <blindcoder> ehm...
[16:14] <DE43741> ach ja - zum spasse: die Tante T hat mein DSL auf 2ur6 oder so umgestellt, damit
[16:14] <DE43741> geht dann mein modem nicht mehr ;)
[16:15] <DE43741> seit freitag ohne DSL zu hause...
[16:15] <blindcoder> und ich dachte, mein unfall auf dem fahrrad gegen einen landrover waere spektakulaer gewesen
[16:16] <DE43741> was hastn angestellt
[16:17] <blindcoder> bin vor jahren (muessten jetzt 10 sein)
[16:17] <blindcoder> aufm fahrrad in nen landrover geknallt
[16:17] <blindcoder> scheibe adbei eingeschlagen, und beim runterfallen den rechten arm aufgeschlitzt
[16:18] <DE43741> ouch... 
[16:18] <blindcoder> wenn du gut hinsiehst, siehste die narbe: http://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/cgi-bin/view.sh?WORKDIR=/home/www/bilder/2006-06-11_Scar;id=dscf0009.jpg
[16:18] <blindcoder> bild ist leider schlecht
[16:18] <blindcoder> 6 cm auf 1.5 cm
[16:18] <DE43741> bild ?
[16:18] <blindcoder> jo
[16:18] <DE43741> axo... 
[16:18] <blindcoder> von kuerzlich
[16:18] <blindcoder> die narbe, die ich immer noch habe
[16:19] <DE43741> bildchen gucken ist leider net - auf arbeit
[16:20] <DE43741> sag mal - kann ich subversion 1.3 einfach compilen und dann an den SM als client haengen, oder brauchst da spezialititationen ?
[16:20] <blindcoder> heh, verstehe
[16:20] <blindcoder> hebs dir auf fuer wenn du wieder nen modem hast
[16:20] <DE43741> joa... 
[16:20] <blindcoder> ja, kannst du
[16:21] <blindcoder> oder einfach svn co svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk
[16:21] <DE43741> zieh grad ein image von ubuntu, und mein rechner (winblows) hat kein svn...
[16:21] <DE43741> und die entwicklungskiste zu hause auch net (ROCK-1.5.12)
[16:21] <DE43741> deswegen kotz ich ja so, wenn man das entwicklertool umstellt ohne das vorher in einem regulaeren release was drin war :D
[16:22] <blindcoder> hmm, hatten wir nicht mal statisch gelinkte svn binaries?
[16:22] <DE43741> aber das is ja jetz jahre her... und ich find net die zeit den alten rock upzudaten.
[16:22] <DE43741> keene ahnung... nicht fuer 1.5.12, oder ?
[16:22] <DE43741> das ist das neuste was ich hab.
[16:22] <DE43741> 1.6.x war zu instabil.
[16:23] <blindcoder> nee, einfach ein statisch gelinktes svn binary
[16:23] <blindcoder> laeuft ueberall :)
[16:23] <DE43741> keine ahnung wo... 
[16:23] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: subversion-static
[16:23] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: ich mein auf der webseite zum download
[16:23] <DE43741> stf: woher ?
[16:24] <daja77> erh 2.0.x contained svn ...
[16:24] <stf^rocklinux> falls th sein BBS-Build schon hochgeladen hat, dann sollte das dabei sein...
[16:24] <DE43741> ja, aber nie einzeln, oder ? 
[16:25] <DE43741> dann muss ich mal schauen, wie ich mit dem alten teil die gems aufknacke...
[16:25] <stf^rocklinux> doch, th lädt soweit ich weiß die BBS-Builds auch als einzelne Pakete hoch
[16:25] <stf^rocklinux> (im .tar.bz2-Format)
[16:25] <DE43741> gnu.... muss dann die woche mal suchen..
[16:26] <DE43741> hab ne soekris als build-box auserkoren
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[16:29] <DE43741> re-hi
[16:29] <DE43741> mir ist grad der client abgeflogen
[16:32] Action: blindcoder sich grade heisse schokolade geholt
[16:34] <DE43741> *grins - war vorhin im lavazza shop 
[16:35] <blindcoder> meine schokolade ist kostenlos
[16:35] <DE43741> mein lavazza war nicht umsonst :) der hatte koffein
[16:36] <blindcoder> meine schokolade hat zucker
[16:37] <DE43741> taskaff auch :)
[16:43] <DE43741> .
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[18:11] <th> from time to time i make bbs builds available as single tar packages
[18:26] <DE43741> re
[18:27] <DE43741> .
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[18:33] <daja77> >_<
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[19:02] <DE43741> .
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[19:05] <DE43741> and off for 2day
[19:05] <DE43741> cu
[19:05] <stf^rocklinux> cu
[19:07] <DE43741> exit
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[19:20] <daja77> at least there are no more dots now
[19:21] <mnemoc> i was about to ask th to kick him :p
[19:22] <daja77> :)
[19:24] <stf^rocklinux> hm, anyone knows a well-working, cross-platform replacement for skype?
[19:24] <mnemoc> wengo
[19:25] <stf^rocklinux> have you managed to build it from source? I'm currently trying...
[19:26] <mnemoc> i refuse to install qt here :p
[19:26] <stf^rocklinux> ic ^^
[19:28] <mnemoc> *but* you can use that on win32 and use something normal on linux :p
[19:28] <stf^rocklinux> normal?
[19:29] <mnemoc> i use ekiga
[19:29] <stf^rocklinux> is that a SIP client?
[19:29] <stf^rocklinux> (like wengophone?)
[19:30] <mnemoc> philosophical question?
[19:31] <stf^rocklinux> no, I'm just new to the whole VoIP thing... I've been using TeamSpeak and Skype a little bit, but that's all...
[19:31] <mnemoc> Skype != SIP
[19:32] <stf^rocklinux> and those aren't even strictly VoIP, afaik...
[19:32] <mnemoc> ekiga is the former gnomemeeting, using SIP as default protocol
[19:32] <mnemoc> Skype use a propietary protocol
[19:35] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, I'd love to have an easy-to-use software for Linux, MacOS and Windows that I can tell my friends to use instead of Skype. If I can't make wengophone ng compile, I'll take a look at ekiga.
[19:35] <SMP> ekiga really is a bitch to build
[19:36] <SMP> like most of the Gnome stuff, actually
[19:36] <mnemoc> having your friends using SIP you can use any SIP client available
[19:36] <stf^rocklinux> mnemoc: that's good to know :)
[19:37] <mnemoc> so just make them use wengo, while you get any SIP client working on yours
[19:37] <mnemoc> SMP: :)
[19:37] <stf^rocklinux> SMP: If it's only about dependencies, I think I can handle it... btw. what's your favorite SIP client?
[19:38] <stf^rocklinux> (for Linux)
[19:41] <SMP> stf^rocklinux: I built ekiga without the Gnome bits, so the most unusual dependency there is their version of pwlib and opal. but it doesn't work for me. just crashes.
[19:42] <SMP> didn't want to install the whole Gnome shebang on my machine just yet
[19:42] <stf^rocklinux> hm, doesn't sound very pleasant indeed
[19:44] <SMP> stf^rocklinux: if you want a quick start, I can give a version of X-lite for Linux. commercial software, free to use, but no longer available
[19:46] <stf^rocklinux> thx, I'll try build wengophone first.
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