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[09:06] <blindcoder> th: ping [09:32] <th> blindcoder: pong [09:33] <blindcoder> th: moin [09:33] <th> *yawn* [09:33] <blindcoder> th: seems like submaster stopped sending mails [09:33] <th> uh [09:33] <th> that's not so good [09:34] <blindcoder> *nod* [09:34] <blindcoder> at least I haven't received any for todays two patches [09:35] <th> [SM-2006061902280425150] Added by stf [09:35] <th> [SM-2006061521361331449] new msg by stf: [09:35] <th> that's my two sm mails for today [09:36] <blindcoder> indeed [09:36] <blindcoder> and I added two patches in the last hour [09:40] <th> hmm [09:42] <th> strange [09:42] <th> does not seem to be stuck in q [09:43] <th> that's something for cliff ;-/ [09:43] <th> i know too few to debug it [09:43] <blindcoder> ok [09:49] <blindcoder> th: could you have a look at 2006061908474930191 and 2006061909025830571? [09:49] <th> what's the status with the bc_20060614_nofeature_cd1? [09:49] <th> did you do testing? [09:49] <blindcoder> th: it's what my install report from yesterday is based on [09:50] <th> lemme ask to binary questions: [09:50] <th> did it introduce new bugs? [09:50] <th> did you do the complete testing cycle? [09:51] <blindcoder> no new bugs that I noticed [09:51] <blindcoder> and since they're only runtime parts, I did not do a full build but only a runtime test [09:51] <th> i did the full build and provided the ISO [09:53] <blindcoder> th: ah, those [09:53] <blindcoder> th: no new bugs in the changed code. tested the same way I did last time [09:53] <th> ya talking of bc_20060614_nofeature [09:53] <blindcoder> th: yeah [09:54] <th> does this same way comply with our testing procedure? ;-) [09:54] <blindcoder> th: anyway, installed, tested the checksumming, tested some other things, the basic stuff, same as last time [09:54] <blindcoder> user management, X installation, all that [09:54] <th> fine [09:55] <th> you could've said that earlier ;) [09:55] <th> committing journal [09:56] <blindcoder> thanks :) [09:56] <th> Committed revision 7667. [09:56] <th> at least the commit emails seem to work [10:01] <th> somehow i feel like - we still need some time to fix some rock internal things so that i could do some updates in that time. [10:02] <th> speaking of kde, cups and perhaps xorg [10:02] <th> might be worth a try [10:02] <blindcoder> what needs to be fixed? [10:03] <th> i consider some things SMP mentioned real show stoppers [10:03] <th> but as i see stf worked on the bdb one [10:04] <blindcoder> yeah, but he can't decide what he wants [10:04] <th> no? [10:04] <blindcoder> first it's "hotplug, rockplug hwscan must die!!!11!!11oneeleven" [10:04] <blindcoder> then it's "this is a joke, right?" [10:04] <th> well he's right with this. [10:05] <blindcoder> oh yeah, because nothing will improve quality like insulting the author [10:05] <th> ignore the insulting parts [10:05] <th> focus on the thing [10:06] <blindcoder> then there isn't really much left [10:06] <th> how often have you insulted udev folks? [10:06] <blindcoder> well, I did. that's why there's a second version of the fooplug/hwscan remover [10:06] <blindcoder> directly? probably never, noone of them reads what I write :) [10:08] <blindcoder> even then, I usually say how I think things should work [10:08] <blindcoder> and not just "this stinks" and "that stinks" [10:09] <th> this does not change the fact that he's right with stinking-reports [10:10] <blindcoder> yeah, but not about the place he reports them at [10:10] <blindcoder> anyway, what was left to do? [10:10] <th> i dont have the complete overview [10:10] <th> but i'm going to test the bdb/automake thing from stf [10:10] <blindcoder> bdb was done by stf, and fooplug/hwscan was started by me (probably not finished yet) [10:11] <th> so that's where i said that there might be enough time for kde+cups update [10:11] <blindcoder> yeah [10:11] <blindcoder> since we're not officially in a feature-freeze yet [10:13] <blindcoder> th: I don't know if livecd makes use of hwscan. if it doesn't, everything should be fine [10:31] esdentem (n=esdentem@p5497A409.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [10:42] <esdentem> moin [10:42] <esdentem> blindcoder: have you read my comment on your bluetooth mp3 player? [10:43] <blindcoder> esdentem: yeah [10:43] <esdentem> good ;) [10:43] <blindcoder> esdentem: just haven't had time to have a close look yet [10:43] <esdentem> it is not exactly the thing you requested ... but something in that direction [10:43] <blindcoder> yeah, at least something :) [10:43] <esdentem> next semester I will have to build an mp3 player for a project at FH ... [10:44] <esdentem> I will consider your request in that project ;) [10:44] <blindcoder> \o/ [10:44] <esdentem> *GG* [11:46] <blindcoder> daja77: sendmail 8.13.7, fixes remote DoS [12:08] <daja77> in progress .. [12:09] <daja77> esdentem: no game console? [12:23] <daja77> blindcoder: btw does submaster throws errors at you too? [12:23] <blindcoder> daja77: well, it doesn't send mails when I upload a patch [12:24] <blindcoder> also, I don't get the "Patch 432984239 submitted" [12:25] <daja77> yep and because of that the local patchfile is not removed, that's why I had duplicates yesterday [12:25] <blindcoder> it is with rock_commit_patch.sh :-) [12:26] <daja77> Error while uploading patch: 060619_122413_16541 [12:26] <daja77> .. [13:38] <esdentem> daja77: not for the project at FH [13:38] <esdentem> daja77: it is too complicated for that [13:44] <daja77> :) [13:46] <blindcoder> I'm bored [13:48] Action: daja77 playing mi2 [13:50] Action: blindcoder at work, wasting brain cycles [13:51] <esdentem> blindcoder: then share your braincycles ... [13:51] <esdentem> There are enough people that could use them ... like politicians for example ;) [13:51] <blindcoder> pearls before swine [14:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: you know "Geebas on Parade"? [14:55] esdentem_ (n=esdentem@p5497AC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:58] <esdentem_> blindcoder: no I do not know that [14:58] <blindcoder> esdentem_: as a role-player, you really should :D [14:59] <blindcoder> esdentem_: https://geebasonparade.keenspot.com [15:00] <blindcoder> esdentem_: https://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20030620.html [15:02] <blindcoder> esdentem_: can't find it now, but one of the best I've seen there: [15:03] <blindcoder> esdentem_: Jenny sneaks up on someone. Someone: "DOOM! DEATH! LIGHTNING STORM! DEATH! DOOM!" - Jenny is reduced to a smoking pile of ashes - Someone: "Oh yeah, err... uhm... What do I see?" [15:08] <esdentem_> blindcoder: that is very amusing ;) [15:09] <blindcoder> esdentem_: LARP in a nutshell: https://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20040818.html [15:10] <blindcoder> esdentem_: feels like kendo :) [15:10] esdentem (n=esdentem@p5497A409.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:13] Nick change: esdentem_ -> esdentem [15:13] <esdentem> blindcoder: you would pretty much rock as a knight on a larp ;) [15:14] <blindcoder> esdentem: you mean I'd be the only one who knows how to properly handle a sword? :) [15:14] <esdentem> blindcoder: pretty much, yes [15:15] <blindcoder> damn, I hope the next three months pass quickly [15:15] <esdentem> why? [15:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: that won't help me anything if damage is called by the dice [15:15] <esdentem> if you whish that times passes quickly it is feeling just like the opposite [15:15] <blindcoder> esdentem: because then the Berlin Kendo League "Kendomonster" will start into its third season [15:16] <esdentem> blindcoder: LARP not PNP [15:16] <esdentem> blindcoder: LARP (Live Adventure Role Playing) PNP (Pen And Paper) [15:16] <blindcoder> esdentem: depends on the ruleset I guess [15:17] <esdentem> blindcoder: today only the real freaks use dice in LARP's [15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: according to Arienna (I think, I'm not sure) there are some LARPs where you actually get down to throw your dice [15:17] <esdentem> they are pretty seldom [15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: heh, okay. Never been to one, really [15:17] <blindcoder> esdentem: hell, I never even played a PNP [15:19] <esdentem> blindcoder: you should change that some day ;) [15:20] <blindcoder> esdentem: yeah, some time between 4 kendo trainings a week, moving, hanging out at Alex' bar, hacking and procrastinating [15:21] <blindcoder> I need a job as a professional slacker [15:25] <blindcoder> and I can't go to kendo training all week *cry* [15:30] <esdentem> hehe ... then you really have planty of time ;) [15:31] <blindcoder> no, today I have "ernaehrungsberatung" as well as thursday [15:31] <blindcoder> wednesday my boss will visit [15:31] <blindcoder> and bring toys :D [15:31] <blindcoder> friday I will need to put those toys to good use [15:32] <blindcoder> the weekend is still free [15:48] <blindcoder> esdentem: *cough* https://geebasonparade.keenspot.com/d/20050504.html [16:08] DE43741 (n=DE43741@blueice1n1.de.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [16:08] <DE43741> helo [16:08] <blindcoder> moin [16:09] <DE43741> sorry, hatt die haende in bandagen, bin auf die nase geflogen... [16:09] <DE43741> zu fuss, ohne moped [16:09] <blindcoder> o_O [16:09] <blindcoder> wie macht man sowas? [16:10] <DE43741> ausrutschen und treppe runter ? [16:10] <blindcoder> ehm... [16:10] <blindcoder> aua? [16:10] <DE43741> abstieg uebers gelaender, hand aufreissen... und dann richtig langlegen [16:10] <blindcoder> juhu! spass^2 [16:11] <DE43741> jo... [16:11] <DE43741> aber so richtig [16:11] <blindcoder> erinnert mich an letzten montag, als mich nico fast bewusstlos gedroschen hat [16:12] <daja77> O_o [16:12] <blindcoder> viel kaputt? [16:12] <blindcoder> ausser dem selbstvertrauen [16:14] <DE43741> nee, dem selbstvertr. gehts gut, haende waren halt eingebunden, weil die haut gefehlt hat... nennt sich ablederung [16:14] <DE43741> und die linke seite war halt komplett blau... [16:14] <blindcoder> ehm... [16:14] <DE43741> ach ja - zum spasse: die Tante T hat mein DSL auf 2ur6 oder so umgestellt, damit [16:14] <DE43741> geht dann mein modem nicht mehr ;) [16:15] <DE43741> seit freitag ohne DSL zu hause... [16:15] <blindcoder> und ich dachte, mein unfall auf dem fahrrad gegen einen landrover waere spektakulaer gewesen [16:16] <DE43741> was hastn angestellt [16:17] <blindcoder> bin vor jahren (muessten jetzt 10 sein) [16:17] <blindcoder> aufm fahrrad in nen landrover geknallt [16:17] <blindcoder> scheibe adbei eingeschlagen, und beim runterfallen den rechten arm aufgeschlitzt [16:18] <DE43741> ouch... [16:18] <blindcoder> wenn du gut hinsiehst, siehste die narbe: https://scavenger.homeip.net/bilder/cgi-bin/view.sh?WORKDIR=/home/www/bilder/2006-06-11_Scar;id=dscf0009.jpg [16:18] <blindcoder> bild ist leider schlecht [16:18] <blindcoder> 6 cm auf 1.5 cm [16:18] <DE43741> bild ? [16:18] <blindcoder> jo [16:18] <DE43741> axo... [16:18] <blindcoder> von kuerzlich [16:18] <blindcoder> die narbe, die ich immer noch habe [16:19] <DE43741> bildchen gucken ist leider net - auf arbeit [16:20] <DE43741> sag mal - kann ich subversion 1.3 einfach compilen und dann an den SM als client haengen, oder brauchst da spezialititationen ? [16:20] <blindcoder> heh, verstehe [16:20] <blindcoder> hebs dir auf fuer wenn du wieder nen modem hast [16:20] <DE43741> joa... [16:20] <blindcoder> ja, kannst du [16:21] <blindcoder> oder einfach svn co svn://www.rocklinux.org/rock-linux/trunk [16:21] <DE43741> zieh grad ein image von ubuntu, und mein rechner (winblows) hat kein svn... [16:21] <DE43741> und die entwicklungskiste zu hause auch net (ROCK-1.5.12) [16:21] <DE43741> deswegen kotz ich ja so, wenn man das entwicklertool umstellt ohne das vorher in einem regulaeren release was drin war :D [16:22] <blindcoder> hmm, hatten wir nicht mal statisch gelinkte svn binaries? [16:22] <DE43741> aber das is ja jetz jahre her... und ich find net die zeit den alten rock upzudaten. [16:22] <DE43741> keene ahnung... nicht fuer 1.5.12, oder ? [16:22] <DE43741> das ist das neuste was ich hab. [16:22] <DE43741> 1.6.x war zu instabil. [16:23] <blindcoder> nee, einfach ein statisch gelinktes svn binary [16:23] <blindcoder> laeuft ueberall :) [16:23] <DE43741> keine ahnung wo... [16:23] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: subversion-static [16:23] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: ich mein auf der webseite zum download [16:23] <DE43741> stf: woher ? [16:24] <daja77> erh 2.0.x contained svn ... [16:24] <stf^rocklinux> falls th sein BBS-Build schon hochgeladen hat, dann sollte das dabei sein... [16:24] <DE43741> ja, aber nie einzeln, oder ? [16:25] <DE43741> dann muss ich mal schauen, wie ich mit dem alten teil die gems aufknacke... [16:25] <stf^rocklinux> doch, th lädt soweit ich weiß die BBS-Builds auch als einzelne Pakete hoch [16:25] <stf^rocklinux> (im .tar.bz2-Format) [16:25] <DE43741> gnu.... muss dann die woche mal suchen.. [16:26] <DE43741> hab ne soekris als build-box auserkoren [16:26] DE43741 (n=DE43741@blueice1n1.de.ibm.com) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:29] DE43741 (n=DE43741@blueice4n1.de.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [16:29] <DE43741> re-hi [16:29] <DE43741> mir ist grad der client abgeflogen [16:32] Action: blindcoder sich grade heisse schokolade geholt [16:34] <DE43741> *grins - war vorhin im lavazza shop [16:35] <blindcoder> meine schokolade ist kostenlos [16:35] <DE43741> mein lavazza war nicht umsonst :) der hatte koffein [16:36] <blindcoder> meine schokolade hat zucker [16:37] <DE43741> taskaff auch :) [16:43] <DE43741> . [18:11] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:11] <th> from time to time i make bbs builds available as single tar packages [18:26] <DE43741> re [18:27] <DE43741> . [18:33] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [18:33] <daja77> >_< [18:46] feistel (n=feistel@200.125.101.50) joined #rocklinux. [18:46] feistel (n=feistel@200.125.101.50) left #rocklinux. [19:02] <DE43741> . [19:05] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [19:05] <DE43741> and off for 2day [19:05] <DE43741> cu [19:05] <stf^rocklinux> cu [19:07] <DE43741> exit [19:08] DE43741 (n=DE43741@blueice4n1.de.ibm.com) left irc: "TinyIRC 1.1" [19:20] <daja77> at least there are no more dots now [19:21] <mnemoc> i was about to ask th to kick him :p [19:22] <daja77> :) [19:24] <stf^rocklinux> hm, anyone knows a well-working, cross-platform replacement for skype? [19:24] <mnemoc> wengo [19:25] <stf^rocklinux> have you managed to build it from source? I'm currently trying... [19:26] <mnemoc> i refuse to install qt here :p [19:26] <stf^rocklinux> ic ^^ [19:28] <mnemoc> *but* you can use that on win32 and use something normal on linux :p [19:28] <stf^rocklinux> normal? [19:29] <mnemoc> i use ekiga [19:29] <stf^rocklinux> is that a SIP client? [19:29] <stf^rocklinux> (like wengophone?) [19:30] <mnemoc> philosophical question? [19:31] <stf^rocklinux> no, I'm just new to the whole VoIP thing... I've been using TeamSpeak and Skype a little bit, but that's all... [19:31] <mnemoc> Skype != SIP [19:32] <stf^rocklinux> and those aren't even strictly VoIP, afaik... [19:32] <mnemoc> ekiga is the former gnomemeeting, using SIP as default protocol [19:32] <mnemoc> Skype use a propietary protocol [19:35] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, I'd love to have an easy-to-use software for Linux, MacOS and Windows that I can tell my friends to use instead of Skype. If I can't make wengophone ng compile, I'll take a look at ekiga. [19:35] <SMP> ekiga really is a bitch to build [19:36] <SMP> like most of the Gnome stuff, actually [19:36] <mnemoc> having your friends using SIP you can use any SIP client available [19:36] <stf^rocklinux> mnemoc: that's good to know :) [19:37] <mnemoc> so just make them use wengo, while you get any SIP client working on yours [19:37] <mnemoc> SMP: :) [19:37] <stf^rocklinux> SMP: If it's only about dependencies, I think I can handle it... btw. what's your favorite SIP client? [19:38] <stf^rocklinux> (for Linux) [19:41] <SMP> stf^rocklinux: I built ekiga without the Gnome bits, so the most unusual dependency there is their version of pwlib and opal. but it doesn't work for me. just crashes. [19:42] <SMP> didn't want to install the whole Gnome shebang on my machine just yet [19:42] <stf^rocklinux> hm, doesn't sound very pleasant indeed [19:44] <SMP> stf^rocklinux: if you want a quick start, I can give a version of X-lite for Linux. commercial software, free to use, but no longer available [19:46] <stf^rocklinux> thx, I'll try build wengophone first. [20:15] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:17] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-55a1cd4850951ab2) joined #rocklinux. [21:43] esdentem (n=esdentem@p5497AC75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:19] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.222.11) joined #rocklinux. [23:33] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.216) left irc: Read error: 113 (No route to host) [23:34] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [23:38] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-589587a8815b41a2) joined #rocklinux. 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