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[06:02] brian|lfs (n=Brian@216-15-45-30.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com) joined #rocklinux. [06:15] brian|lfs (n=Brian@216-15-45-30.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com) left irc: "Leaving" [08:46] <blindcoder> moin [11:10] Chown (n=Compaq_O@cpc2-addl1-0-0-cust439.hers.cable.ntl.com) joined #rocklinux. [11:10] <Chown> hey [11:12] Action: daja77_ yawns [11:14] <Chown> u guys know how to set up a fedora core computer with a belkin router? [11:16] <Chown> cos in my ifconfig my ip is localhost and its connected to the router but on another comp on the network i cant access it. [11:16] <Chown> if that makes any sense [11:28] Chown (n=Compaq_O@cpc2-addl1-0-0-cust439.hers.cable.ntl.com) left irc: "leaving" [12:57] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-040-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:08] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-040-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:36] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-061-196-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:44] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-123-164.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [14:30] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [14:49] ti8it (n=tibit@146.191.100.187) joined #rocklinux. [14:51] <ti8it> Hi. I just installed crystal ROCK 7688 and I wonder if there is an easy way to compile and installer the whole gnome2 repository? [14:53] <daja77> erh probably no [14:53] <blindcoder> in theory, yes, but I never did it, so use at your own risk [14:54] <daja77> there is a repository switch for Build-Pkg iirc [14:54] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2 [14:54] <blindcoder> daja77: the Build-Pkg doesn't have the -repository switch [14:54] <daja77> some needed packages might not be in gnome2 repo [14:54] <daja77> well .. [14:54] <blindcoder> ti8it: it _should_ resolve dependencies cleanly, but gnome has never been know for clean deps [14:55] <blindcoder> if you also add the -dep switch, it just might work [14:55] <ti8it> I have extracted the deps from deb_db.txt for gnome-desktop [14:56] <ti8it> because ./scripts/Create-DepList does not seem to work as I expect it [14:57] <blindcoder> what you expect is probably this: ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -dep gnome-desktop [14:58] <ti8it> blindcoder: yes, thats it ;) [14:58] <daja77> so i guess emerge-pkg is till not obsolete [14:58] <blindcoder> daja77: why should it be? [14:59] <daja77> clifford told me so ^ [14:59] <daja77> ^ [14:59] <blindcoder> that's the first time I heard of it [14:59] <daja77> ok [15:00] <blindcoder> in the "ROCK Timeline" Emerge-Pkg was only recently introduced... you conffuse me :( [15:00] <daja77> <- master of confusion [15:01] <ti8it> btw, congratulations on making ROCKlinux so good and fast. It definiatly rocks [15:01] <blindcoder> thank you *bows* [15:01] <daja77> .oO (I need a new build= [15:02] <ti8it> hmm, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dep gnome-desktop does not work. It starts with building gnome-desktop, which obviously fails because of all the dependend libs [15:14] <blindcoder> looks like a sorting problem [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: try this [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: in scripts/Emerge-Pkg go to line 256 [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: it look like this: [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: deplist="$deplist `grep -v '^#' $tmp`" [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: change it to: [15:16] <blindcoder> ti8it: deplist="`grep -v '^#' $tmp` $deplist" [15:17] <blindcoder> ti8it: otherwise the deps are _ap_pended when obviously they need to be _pre_pended [15:17] <ti8it> makes sense [15:18] <blindcoder> I'm not sure if it works, but it's the first that comes to mind [15:18] <blindcoder> -dep is one of those "nice to have functions, but none of the developers uses it" :/ [15:18] <blindcoder> so bugs in there aren't noticed that fast [15:18] <ti8it> but it still does not really make sense, when i do ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -dep sed I get the same output as for gnome-desktop [15:19] treo (n=xfman@C87c3.c.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [15:19] <blindcoder> let me check [15:19] <blindcoder> this machine is just a little slow [15:21] <blindcoder> interesting [15:22] <stf^rocklinux> hi all [15:23] <stf^rocklinux> btw. just recently I emerged epiphany with a little shell script written by myself [15:24] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux [15:25] <stf^rocklinux> all it did was to recursively extract the [DEPS] from the .cache files, and ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg every package that was not yet installed... worked pretty well here. [15:25] <blindcoder> hmm, interesting dependency tree. must be some compile-time installation [15:26] <blindcoder> won't mess up the distribution build, but only the Emerge-Pkg -dep [15:27] <ti8it> if you run the cmdline with -debug, you see why you get all these nonsense packages for sed [15:27] <blindcoder> sed -> linux -> acl -> rpm -> python -> kdebindings -> pam -> opensc -> mozilla [15:27] <ti8it> yes ;) [15:27] <blindcoder> -> denotes a dependency of the left package upon the right [15:28] <blindcoder> basically, this is correct [15:28] <blindcoder> to get a sed as shipped with crystal, you need all the other packages [15:29] <blindcoder> usually, it won't even matter, since all the packages are installed already [15:29] <blindcoder> you'll only get to build them again if they were updated [15:30] <ti8it> a grep ^sed ./scripts/dep_db.txt looks a wee bit more reasonable [15:31] <blindcoder> yes, but it's the deps of the deps that make it huge [15:31] <blindcoder> -dep is broken anyway [15:31] <blindcoder> it doesn't recognize forked packages [15:32] <blindcoder> which just emphasises the fact that no developer really uses this feature, causing bit rot [15:33] <ti8it> that means you compile a distribution for one specific task with basically no way to install (more complex) packages later on [15:34] <ti8it> or compile everything anyway ;) [15:34] <blindcoder> not with -dep, no [15:34] <blindcoder> I usually build the package only [15:35] <stf^rocklinux> it would greatly help if deps of a package are not installed when this package is already installed. [15:35] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: they won't [15:35] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: unless, of course, there's a new version of the installed package [15:35] <ti8it> I think -deps is actually supposed to do that [15:36] <ti8it> at least thats what I get from reading the script [15:40] <stf^rocklinux> ic [15:52] <stf^rocklinux> btw., from latest trunk with patches: [15:52] <stf^rocklinux> 338 builds total, 311 completed fine, 0 with errors. [15:52] <stf^rocklinux> (crystal build) [15:53] <esden> moin [15:56] <stf^rocklinux> moin esden [16:00] <stf^rocklinux> th: ping [16:03] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-032-113.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [16:03] stf^rocklinux (n=user@heim-032-113.raab-heim.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #rocklinux. [16:04] <ti8it> makewhatis throws syntax errors here. There is a spurious closing ) in line 261 [16:07] <stf^rocklinux> ti8it: some man pages from irda-utils are broken, I guess that's the reason [16:08] <stf^rocklinux> see e.g. man irnet [16:08] <ti8it> it was a syntax error in the makewhatis script [16:08] <stf^rocklinux> ok, the error I ment occurs when running postinstall. [16:12] <ti8it> https://tibit.org/awk.txt is what i mean [16:13] <blindcoder> that seems to be an error in makewhatis [16:13] <blindcoder> did you check if there is a new version available? [16:14] <ti8it> no, i just removed that ) on line 216 and now its fixed. [16:19] <ti8it> is there any real difference between "rocket emerge <x>" and ./scripts/Download && ./scripts/Build-Pkg ? [16:20] <blindcoder> no [16:20] <blindcoder> erm [16:20] <blindcoder> wai [16:20] <blindcoder> t [16:20] <blindcoder> yes [16:20] <blindcoder> rocket emerge adds the -update parameter to build-pgkg [16:20] <blindcoder> thus preserving changed files (config files, for example) [16:21] <stf^rocklinux> ti8it: rocket emerge uses the tree in /usr/src/rock-src and the config from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG [16:21] <ti8it> ahh ok, thanks. So many scripts .. ;) [16:22] <stf^rocklinux> ti8it: do you mind sending the makewhatis patch to SubMaster? [16:25] <ti8it> no, not at all. What is SubMaster? [16:26] <ti8it> https://tibit.org/makewhatis-additional-bracket.p0 [16:26] <stf^rocklinux> it's the patch management for ROCK, see https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/ [16:27] <stf^rocklinux> you can upload patches either via the web interface (see new patch), or via a command line tool called sm (but then you have to checkout trunk with sm as well) [16:28] <stf^rocklinux> before uploading, please just add a short description at the top of the patch. [16:28] <blindcoder> or just using Create-Diff and https://www.shellscripts.org/project/rockcommitpatch [16:40] <ti8it> the bug is fixed in man-1.6d [16:46] <stf^rocklinux> ok, so we could just update man [16:46] <stf^rocklinux> btw. scripts/Emerge-Pkg uses the -update parameter as well. [16:51] <ti8it> yea, just update man [16:52] <blindcoder> https://www.hackers-lounge.com/stuff/card-reader.JPG [16:52] <stf^rocklinux> I guess the answer is yes in most cases ^^ [18:38] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.217.153) joined #rocklinux. [18:53] ija (n=ija@84.19.218.108) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [20:23] treo (n=xfman@C87c3.c.pppool.de) left irc: "safe the Planet, kill yourself" [20:27] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [21:47] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-040-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "argh" [22:00] <th> stf^rocklinux: pong [22:00] <th> (i'm out of town until tomorrow afternoon) [22:00] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-040-025.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [22:02] <stf^rocklinux> th: hi [22:03] <stf^rocklinux> my latest test build is almost finished, there are some new patches required for building latest trunk because of libpng and freetype security updates [22:03] <stf^rocklinux> see my latest journal. [22:04] <daja77> stf^rocklinux: have you tested the latest nvidia driver? [22:05] <stf^rocklinux> daja77: no, I have an ati card since christmas, and no other machine where I could put the nvidia card in... [22:05] <daja77> ic :) [22:05] <daja77> just found a bug in that installer ^^ [22:08] <stf^rocklinux> th: I'd also welcome an official feature freeze announcement on rock-devel very much. [23:44] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:45] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-07ab8458ab0ae54c) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Tue Jul 4 2006