[00:07] <owl> re
[00:08] <blindcoder> wb
[00:08] <blindcoder> got some nice pics?
[00:08] <owl> yeah, i think so
[00:09] <owl> i guess they will be fittin in my s/w-session 'historical neuburg at night'
[00:09] <blindcoder> don't think so much, do more :)
[00:10] <owl> eh, boy, my best friend always shouts at me, that i need to calm down more often and you're shouting 'do more' *kick* *kick* *kick*
[00:10] <blindcoder> hehehe
[00:11] <blindcoder> *dodge* *dodge* *dodge*
[00:11] <blindcoder> *counterkick*
[00:11] <owl> geeeeh! i guess i have some camel genomes in my body... half litre of iso-water in dunno - 3 minutes? O_O
[00:11] <blindcoder> 3 minutes isn't quick :)
[00:11] <owl> dunno0
[00:12] <owl> baeh, how to get out of my shoes? O_O
[00:12] <blindcoder> hmm
[00:12] <owl> i guess they're part of my body now... walked about 5 kilometres O_O
[00:12] <blindcoder> untie them first?
[00:13] <owl> that's not the pro blem :)
[00:13] <stf^rocklinux> owl: as one of my profs likes to say: "Everything you need in live you have learned in kindergarten" ;)
[00:13] <owl> *lol* he must be a really wise man, eh? :)
[00:14] <blindcoder> the only intuitive interface is the nipple
[00:14] <blindcoder> everything else is learned
[00:14] <blindcoder> proof for stf^rocklinux's prof :)
[00:14] <owl> ^^
[00:14] Action: owl wonders - nah - *censored*
[00:15] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, and pretty funny too. He also explains many technical examples using the "Einheitskartoffel".
[00:15] <owl> einheitskartoffel?
[00:16] <stf^rocklinux> it's like the "Einheitskreis", just looks more like a potatoe :)
[00:16] <owl> wonderful. might he should better teach 'creative arts'?
[00:17] <stf^rocklinux> nah, we need profs like him. Our study would be to boring without people like him :)
[00:18] <owl> why? what boring thingie are you studying)
[00:18] <owl> ?
[00:18] <stf^rocklinux> mechatronics
[00:18] <owl> ok, ok, you've won... keep your prof save :)
[00:19] <blindcoder> oooh, ein mecha
[00:19] <stf^rocklinux> it's not really boring, but sometimes you need some humour between all that math...
[00:21] <owl> baeh, my back aches
[00:24] <blindcoder> get to lie on a medium to hard mattress
[00:28] <owl> nah, not yet. i am still to hyperactive :)
[00:28] <blindcoder> no, as a general matter
[00:29] <owl> yeah, then... 
[00:29] <owl> but i walked, as said, a lot... and my back is not used to it
[00:29] <blindcoder> hehe, get a job at a construction site
[00:29] <blindcoder> that'll teach your back :)
[00:30] <owl> yeah... i know... 
[00:31] <owl> that was soooooo evil last saturday, when i went to a concert... my neck! god! it killed my the other day :D
[00:31] <owl> headbanging is - aeh - dangerous :)
[00:33] <blindcoder> you at a concert?
[00:33] <blindcoder> I mean... there's people there
[00:33] <blindcoder> lots of people
[00:33] <owl> yes... i was invited by someone to the concert. his band hat a gig there
[00:34] <blindcoder> I see
[00:34] <owl> yeah ;)
[00:35] Action: blindcoder yawns
[00:36] <owl> you're tired?
[00:36] <blindcoder> sleepy
[00:36] <blindcoder> been up since around 7 am
[00:36] <blindcoder> have packed a few things up, disassembled others
[00:37] <blindcoder> been taking away some electronic waste
[00:37] <blindcoder> lots of little stuff
[00:37] <owl> hrrrrm. up since 8 and slept again at 9 - 10... hrm. 
[00:37] <owl> and not even beginning to get tired. *sigh*
[00:46] <owl> .oO( silence... )
[00:51] <stf^rocklinux> hm, time for me to go to bed...
[00:52] <blindcoder> yeah
[00:52] <blindcoder> same here
[00:52] <blindcoder> good night
[00:53] <owl> gn8 ^^
[00:53] <stf^rocklinux> gn8
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[02:52] <esden> woot my emacs looks really pretty now ;)
[03:41] <fake> Error logs from crystal-TRUNK-x86-pentium-mmx-32-crystal:
[03:41] <fake> 337 builds total, 337 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[03:43] <fake> n1c3!
[03:51] <fake> now for the bootdisk...
[04:50] <daja77_> re
[04:50] <daja77_> what a party
[04:50] <daja77_> in the city
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[08:51] <blindcoder> moin
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[11:43] <owl> moin
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[11:54] <blindcoder> guys
[11:54] <blindcoder> mkpkg doesn't work in $TOPIC
[12:32] <blindcoder> fake: ping
[12:32] <blindcoder> th: ping
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[13:01] <esden> moin moin
[13:01] <owl> hi esden!
[13:01] <esden> ahh that was a really nice productive day yesterday ;)
[13:02] <esden> I hope it will be today too ;)
[13:02] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[13:02] <owl> productive in what way?
[13:02] <esden> moin owl 
[13:02] <esden> moin blindcoder 
[13:03] <esden> learn a lot ... code a lot ... make a lot of things running!
[13:03] <esden> simply nice ;)
[13:03] <owl> hehe ;)
[13:04] <esden> I am pretty dead now because I slept only 5 hours (it is for me not really lot)
[13:04] <esden> but I hope to be awake in some hours ... 
[13:04] <blindcoder> hehe
[13:04] <blindcoder> I'll probably packa few more stuff
[13:04] <esden> o_O?
[13:04] <blindcoder> esden: would you bee free around the 29th of July
[13:04] <esden> blindcoder: sure ... why?
[13:05] <blindcoder> esden: I would need another set of hands
[13:05] <blindcoder> esden: and zero would offer to drive to berlin
[13:05] <blindcoder> esden: but not alone
[13:05] <esden> perhups I have to go to work ... but I can always take some free time.
[13:05] <blindcoder> esden: it'd be the weekend, maybe the friday before, too
[13:06] <esden> ohh ... ok ... no problem ... I will see what I can do so that I can come and help you moving ... the only thing I want in return is some cool clubmate ;)
[13:06] <blindcoder> esden: if you'd like to help, could you please call zero and discuss the driving with him?
[13:06] <blindcoder> esden: that'll be arranged :)
[13:06] Action: esden is pretty much a mate junkie by now ;)
[13:07] <blindcoder> esden: can't connect to your skype :(
[13:07] <blindcoder> ah, my problem
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[15:35] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[15:37] <owl> hi stf^rocklinux 
[15:37] <stf^rocklinux> hi owl :)
[15:38] <owl> how are you?
[15:40] <stf^rocklinux> just got up, which means I slept almost 15 hours o_O
[15:41] <owl> autsch!
[15:42] <stf^rocklinux> Well, I had some funny dreams... and you? when did you get to sleep?
[15:42] <fake> moin
[15:42] <fake> blindcoder: it's broken since quite some time now
[15:43] Action: fake just finished bootdisk...
[15:43] <blindcoder> fake: the upload through the new interface works fine
[15:43] <blindcoder> fake: it's just that the help text on top of the "New Patch" page is wrong
[15:43] <owl> funny dreams? might i envy you? :) i went to bed at? - dunno? 2 o clock or something... got up at 1130 or something
[15:44] <blindcoder> fake: it says curl ... patch_text=@FILENAME
[15:44] <owl> hi fake 
[15:44] <blindcoder> fake: but it must be curl ... patch_text=<FILENAME
[15:44] <blindcoder> fake: or curl ... patch_file=@FILENAME
[15:44] <blindcoder> fake: one of these two and it'll all be fine
[15:44] <blindcoder> moin stf^rocklinux, owl
[15:47] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder :)
[15:47] <fake> blindcoder: let me see...
[15:48] <stf^rocklinux> owl: of course you can. I like dreaming a lot :)
[15:49] <owl> stf^rocklinux: yeah, but not those dreams i had... i am sure :P
[15:50] <fake> -F newpatch_text=@
[15:50] <blindcoder> fake: yeah, that's the wrong one
[15:50] <blindcoder> fake: either newpatch_file=@ or newpatch_text=<
[15:51] <fake> i guess i'll opput patch_file in there?
[15:51] <fake> newpatch_file=@... i don't even know the =< curl operator
[15:52] <fake> just committed it
[15:53] <fake> recompiling...
[15:53] <blindcoder> thanks :)
[15:54] <blindcoder> =< means that the content of the file goes into the parameter
[15:54] <blindcoder> =@ means the file will be uploaded using POST and the filename goes to the parameter
[15:55] <fake> the latter one is cleaner
[15:56] <fake> shit
[15:56] <fake> now i broke it
[15:57] <blindcoder> o_O
[15:58] <fake> or is it just me?
[15:59] <fake> ah. got it.
[15:59] <fake> except the line didn't change...
[15:59] <fake> grrrr!
[16:02] <fake> i changed the line in the template
[16:02] <fake> and i recompiled...
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[16:04] <fake> blindcoder: is it corrected now for you?
[16:04] <blindcoder> no
[16:07] <fake> damn it
[16:10] <fake> now it's corrected
[16:10] <fake> it precompiles the templates and saves them under webspl_cache
[16:13] <fake> ok, now for the crystal_7709+fixes
[16:23] <fake> there is a bug in a postinstall script
[16:23] <fake> hhARRRGH!
[16:24] <fake> the removal of hwscan was a bit quick.
[16:24] <fake> now i don't have any option anymore to add packages to the initrd
[16:24] <fake> s/packages/modules/
[16:26] <fake> and detecting module dependencies in mkinitrd doesn't work anymore, either
[16:46] <blindcoder> hmm
[16:46] <blindcoder> worked fine here
[16:46] <blindcoder> I have $TOPIC running
[16:46] <blindcoder> just add your modules to /etc/conf/kernel as usual
[16:46] <fake> it works in $TOPIC
[16:46] <fake> it was a change after $TOPIC
[16:46] <fake> i'm looking into it
[16:46] <blindcoder> oh
[16:48] <stf^rocklinux> mkpkg fix is in 2006070916453825339 (works for me)
[16:48] <blindcoder> AARRRR
[16:48] <blindcoder> fake: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/index.websplb
[16:49] <fake> ?
[16:49] <fake> whats wrong?
[16:49] <blindcoder> hmm
[16:49] <blindcoder> nevre mnid
[16:49] <fake> stf^rocklinux: cool!
[16:49] <blindcoder> just didn't work
[16:49] <blindcoder> cleared my cookies, now it works again
[16:49] <fake> stf^rocklinux: queue it to the bugfixes, will ya?
[16:50] <stf^rocklinux> fake: ok
[16:55] <fake> mkinitrd fixed... small typo
[16:56] <fake> now for the more ugly thing
[16:56] <fake> we need to re-enable editing of /etc/conf/kernel from within stone
[16:56] <fake> and with we i think i mean 'i'
[16:57] <blindcoder> yes :)
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[18:08] <fake> oh great...
[18:08] <fake> now the big q
[18:08] <fake> ... nevermind.
[18:08] <stf^rocklinux> re
[18:08] <owl> wb stf^rocklinux 
[18:09] <stf^rocklinux> thx :)
[18:16] <fake> re
[18:16] <owl> wb fake 
[18:16] <fake> we need to remove the evbug module
[18:17] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, it's a nuisance when using dmesg
[18:23] <fake> this sucks
[18:23] <fake> i need to find out in which order to load the module dependencies
[18:23] <fake> of a kernel module
[18:25] <blindcoder> fake: modinfo?
[18:26] <fake> modinfo returns the dependencies in any order
[18:27] <fake> i need to run modinfo on any module returned by modinfo
[18:27] <fake> and then load those with no dependencies first
[18:28] <fake> and then load those with dependencies on those with no dependencies... and then thos with dependencies on those who have dependencies on those who don't have dependencies...
[18:39] <stf^rocklinux> isn't that what depmod is for?
[18:42] <stf^rocklinux> and /lib/modules/x.y.z/modules.dep?
[18:43] <stf^rocklinux> from man modules.dep:  This  file  is  used  by  modprobe to know the order to load modules (they are loaded
[18:43] <stf^rocklinux>        right to left, and removed left to right).
[18:44] <fake> we don' use modprobe in the inird
[18:44] <fake> *initrd
[18:45] <fake> but i guess we should...
[18:51] <fake> ok, i'm writing a patch...
[18:51] <stf^rocklinux> we don't even need modprobe; when we copy the relevant lines from modules.dep to initrd, we can also do the insmod calls in the right order...
[18:52] <stf^rocklinux> but that's unnecessarily complicated, I guess. 
[18:53] <stf^rocklinux> If only I could find out where the flash player caches videos on my disk...
[18:56] <stf^rocklinux> ah, /tmp/kde-user, as always :)
[20:15] Action: fake away for some pizza
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[20:55] <blindcoder> fake: _very_ clever, thankyouverymuch
[20:56] <stf^rocklinux> hm?
[20:58] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: first he discards the patch with my contra vote, gives a remark about do-it-yourself, resubmits it, applies it immediately and calls the feature-freeze so that my FEATURE won't be able to get in anymore
[20:59] <mnemoc> o.o
[20:59] <owl> hi mnemoc 
[20:59] <mnemoc> hi owlinette
[21:00] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: so now we have a stone_mod_hardware that basically stinks wrt. recreating the initrd because he didn't have the brains to remember what a variable is
[21:00] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: hm, just looking into it...
[21:01] <blindcoder> yes, I remember that I was the one complaining about long apply-times
[21:02] <blindcoder> but if this is the way it's going to be done now, then I'm out
[21:06] <mnemoc> :(
[21:18] <stf^rocklinux> ok, so fake shouldn't have applied that patch, since your objections were quite clear...
[21:23] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: btw. what feature are you talking about, initrd recreation for added modules? 
[21:26] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: yes
[21:26] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: now I see your patch... my suggestion: move it to the bugfix queue, and it should be applied soon :)
[21:27] <blindcoder> if you see it as a bugfix, fine with me
[21:30] <stf^rocklinux> yeah, it's a bugfix of the category "don't allow users to do dumb things" (i.e. not recreate initrd)
[21:32] <blindcoder> true dat
[21:41] <stf^rocklinux> well, I don't know what else to say, so I'll just watch some music videos now :)
[21:42] <owl> have fun
[21:58] <stf^rocklinux> thx
[21:59] <blindcoder> heh
[21:59] <blindcoder> I'm also lying on the couch watching a video and having some baileys
[21:59] <owl> paeh, want to become an alki, blindcoder ?
[21:59] <blindcoder> owl: I will do my very best :)
[22:00] <stf^rocklinux> how strange is that: I can actually hear in my headphones when files are copied on the hd...
[22:00] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: anyway, fake _is_ brave
[22:00] <owl> *kick*
[22:00] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: even announcing a timeframe for the next release :)
[22:00] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: well, then have fun too watching videos :)
[22:02] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: indeed, and the timeframe is even more precise than "sometime this year (or the next)" ^^
[22:03] <blindcoder> hehe
[22:03] <blindcoder> remind me tomorrow to send some announcements to a few sites
[22:04] <blindcoder> anyway, back to watching
[22:05] <owl> *yawn*
[22:06] <owl> consuming, and enjoying live... how wonderful... 
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> live anime
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> eat anime
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> sleep anime
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> ... probably die from eating anime
[22:11] <stf^rocklinux> ^^
[22:14] <owl> that must be a nice death, depending on how much poison an anime contains :)
[22:15] <stf^rocklinux> hm, I guess that largely depends on what media anime is stored.
[22:16] <stf^rocklinux> I suppose paper is a lot less toxic than e.g. video tape...
[22:16] <owl> yeah. or imagine eating broken dvds. hmmmm, jummy!
[22:16] <stf^rocklinux> hmm, and crunchy too :)
[22:17] <owl> yeah :)
[22:17] <stf^rocklinux> did I already mention that I love anime? ^^
[22:18] <owl> after your teeth broke, you'll earn a slashed gullet... hmmmm. 
[22:18] <owl> no, but i thought so :p
[22:26] <blindcoder> live by the anime, die by the anime
[22:26] <blindcoder> or was that sword?
[22:26] <blindcoder> either way, got both :D
[22:27] <stf^rocklinux> no, that was "The anime is mightier than the sword" ;)
[22:27] Action: blindcoder cuts an anime DVD in half with his sword
[22:27] <blindcoder> err... no :D
[22:27] <owl> oh goth... sword, anime - all asian... not counting beans... ;)
[22:28] <blindcoder> owl: ever heard of knights?
[22:29] <owl> blindcoder: yeah.....?
[22:30] <blindcoder> owl: sword doesn't mean asian per definition
[22:30] <blindcoder> besides, it's still better than what currently drives by outsid *grunt*
[22:31] <owl> asian sword i meant
[22:32] <stf^rocklinux> owl: when I'm grown up, I wanna be an anime character :D
[22:33] <owl> stf^rocklinux: ^ and which one? ;)
[22:35] <stf^rocklinux> hm, tough question...
[22:35] <blindcoder> easy question
[22:35] <blindcoder> Shinta alias Kenshin
[22:37] <owl> -v
[22:37] <blindcoder> guess it's redundant to say he's a swordfighter :)
[22:38] <blindcoder> damn good one. oh, and he gets this cutie of a woman :)
[22:38] <owl> *har*
[22:38] <owl> women... ;)
[22:39] <blindcoder> well, he does hit quite hard...
[22:39] <blindcoder> s/he/she/
[22:39] <blindcoder> too bad the female kendoka are already taken :)
[22:39] <stf^rocklinux> hm, Monkey D. Ruffy surely is one of my most favored characters ^^
[22:40] <owl> hrhr. your kendoka are taken and my music-guy? hmmmm... too busy to go out O_O
[22:40] <blindcoder> owl: sucks :(
[22:40] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: one piece isn't really my cup of fur
[22:40] <owl> blindcoder: y?
[22:41] <blindcoder> owl: too long, already up at episode 196
[22:42] <owl> hmm. ok
[22:42] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: for me it's much fun, esp. the first ~100 episodes. 
[22:43] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: indeed
[22:43] <stf^rocklinux> But I didn't like the latter ones that much, when they're fighting most of the time...
[22:43] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: but once they enter the grand line it's filler, filler, filler....
[22:43] <blindcoder> they never get along with the real story
[22:43] <blindcoder> much like bleach and naruto :(
[22:44] <stf^rocklinux> I'm still waiting for Naruto to be broadcasted in Germany/Austria ... :(
[22:45] <blindcoder> better not
[22:46] <blindcoder> the story stopped progressing around ep 50
[22:46] <blindcoder> now it's at 87
[22:46] <blindcoder> err
[22:46] <blindcoder> no
[22:46] <blindcoder> that was bleach
[22:46] <blindcoder> naruto's at 192
[22:46] <blindcoder> with 142 episodes not relating to the story
[22:47] <stf^rocklinux> well, in both cases I hope they finish the story before the viewers lose interest and the series are discarded...
[22:47] <blindcoder> yeah
[22:48] <blindcoder> I loved how the fansubbers in naruto had a sub-subtitle that read: 
[22:48] <blindcoder> Whatever, I don't even give a fuck.
[22:48] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: seen BPS?
[22:48] <stf^rocklinux> or maybe not... finished stories usually make me feel sad, dunno...
[22:49] <stf^rocklinux> BPS?
[22:49] <stf^rocklinux> I guess not?
[22:49] <blindcoder> Battle Programmer Shirase
[22:49] <stf^rocklinux> no...
[22:50] <blindcoder> it's a show about a hacker named shirase. It was canceled because it was too realistic
[22:50] <blindcoder> but damn funny :D
[22:50] <stf^rocklinux> too realistic? you mean so "the kids could try this at home"?
[22:51] <blindcoder> hell, in the credits of the last episode made, the producer even apologised to the fansubbing crowd :)
[22:51] <blindcoder> no, too realistic as in: no special effects, not enough stuff going boom, and not enough hardware
[22:51] <blindcoder> the complete antithesis to serial experiments lain
[22:52] <owl> so, i am going to hug my guitar again, and after that i'll listen to the flews in my bed. bye. gn8
[22:52] <stf^rocklinux> gn8 owl
[22:52] <blindcoder> good hugging
[22:55] <blindcoder> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Programmer_Shirase
[22:59] <stf^rocklinux> nice :)
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