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[00:08] Action: fake off getting some food [00:08] <fake> bbl [00:11] <stf^rocklinux> cya [00:53] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-6314cf4da6318bb6) joined #rocklinux. [00:54] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Nick collision from services. [01:06] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:07] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-77c8da339bb8b778) joined #rocklinux. [02:03] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1298P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [02:05] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1151P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:40] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-100-004.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [02:56] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-061-199-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [02:56] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [07:06] <blindcoder> moin [07:06] <blindcoder> fake: for me it's impossible to test the rc this week. I'll be away from tomorrow until sunday [09:57] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1298P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [10:54] <owl> moin [10:55] <blindcoder> moin moin [10:55] <owl> hi blindy [10:56] <owl> i feel kinda dead - my doc is a sadistic monster... *grml* [10:57] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1298P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:58] <blindcoder> ain't they all? [10:59] <owl> i am not sure. most of them are not pinning needles in your hands, neck and head ^^ [10:59] <blindcoder> I must have been seeing all the wrong docs [11:00] <owl> y? [11:01] <blindcoder> because they always use needles on me to inject something or another [11:01] <owl> yeah, that too... [11:01] <owl> but that is another kind of sadism [11:11] Elmer (n=user@M1445P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:24] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1298P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:39] Elmer (n=user@M1445P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:53] <fake> moin [11:53] <fake> blindcoder: then it's only me... oh well. [11:55] <daja77> hi fake [12:01] <th> fake: is the rc2 build a vanilla build? [12:01] <th> fake: out outstanding patches? [12:02] <fake> th: i'm testing the patches in the RC2 journal [12:02] <fake> th: if i see no regressions i'll apply them later today and upload the ISO(s) [12:02] <fake> 337 builds total, 322 completed fine, 0 with errors. [12:13] <fake> wait, i don't really understand that question [12:13] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:29] <blindcoder> fake: sorry :( [12:31] <fake> blindcoder: maybe next time. you wanted to write a mail to the list with reasons why a release shouldn't happen this week? [12:31] <blindcoder> fake: forget it, was a brain fart [12:32] <blindcoder> fake: since we effectively had a freeze for some time already, most things did work and the rest has patches in submaster [12:32] <blindcoder> fake: there may be the one or other thing I'm not satisfied with, but I'll live [12:33] <fake> blindcoder: mkay. what are you up to the rest of the week? [12:33] <blindcoder> fake: betriebsausflug [12:33] <blindcoder> fake: kollektives firmenbesaeufnis [12:33] <fake> where to? [12:35] <blindcoder> Spitzingsattel [12:35] <blindcoder> https://www.hotel-firstalm.de/ [12:36] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1165P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:37] <fake> the alps? [12:37] [raphael] (n=raphael@lehrenetz.fh-wels.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [12:37] <fake> almost home ;) [12:37] <stf^rocklinux> moin [12:37] <stf^rocklinux> wlan works now :) [12:38] <blindcoder> yeah :) [12:38] <blindcoder> fake: well, tomorrow evening there's a little "grillfest" with customers and staff [12:38] <blindcoder> fake: then I'll stay in Munich over night [12:38] <blindcoder> fake: and then we'll be off to the alps :) [12:38] <blindcoder> so I'll be offline starting tomorrow morning [12:39] <blindcoder> obviously, someone else needs to write the announcements then [12:39] <fake> stf^rocklinux: with ndiswrapper? how fast is it? [12:39] <blindcoder> here's a list where to post them to: symlink.ch, pro-linux.de, golem.de, lwn.net, /. (haha), osnews.com, distrowatch.com [12:40] <fake> blindcoder: saved, thx [12:40] <blindcoder> newsforge newsvac, too [12:40] <stf^rocklinux> fake: haven't tested it extensively yet, altough there shouldn't be much overhead... [12:40] <blindcoder> brb, gotta get dressed to change a CD [12:41] <fake> blindcoder: heh, i know that... [12:43] <stf^rocklinux> gotta finetune the wlan a bit more, bbl... [12:43] <blindcoder> re [12:43] <blindcoder> damn stupid esd area [12:44] <blindcoder> it's not even a real esd area [12:44] <blindcoder> it's just 'to look good when customers visit' [12:57] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-042-146.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:58] <fake> hi daja77_ ! [13:08] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-044-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:11] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1165P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:12] <blindcoder> hehe, so much for the wlan :) [14:50] ripclaw (n=DE43741@blueice1n1.de.ibm.com) joined #rocklinux. [14:51] <ripclaw> hi [14:51] <fake> hi! [14:51] <owl> hi ripclaw ! [14:51] <ripclaw> hi fake, hi owl [14:51] <fake> ripclaw: mind testing the new Release Candidate? [14:51] <ripclaw> hows stuff going ? [14:51] <ripclaw> fake - what platform ? [14:51] <fake> ripclaw: x86 [14:51] <ripclaw> i do not mind, i`m quite happy to do so :) [14:52] <fake> ripclaw: https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Release_Candidates [14:54] <ripclaw> ok, downloading. [14:54] <ripclaw> anything particular you want me to stress ? [14:55] <blindcoder> the stuff that breaks :) [14:55] <daja77_> everything :) [14:55] <ripclaw> ok, bugreports mail or IRC ? [14:55] <blindcoder> mail [14:56] <daja77_> do not forget the installer .. https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/75431 [14:56] <blindcoder> installer? [14:56] <blindcoder> heh [14:56] <blindcoder> we specifically ask for a root password [14:56] <ripclaw> i`ll give it a tough one... [14:57] <ripclaw> hmm... i`ll have to re-subscribe to the mailinglist... is the spamlevel still high ? [14:57] <blindcoder> there was spam? [14:58] <blindcoder> IIRC there was only spam in lurker, since clifford opened its address to the world [14:58] <ripclaw> i keep getting spam clearly targeted at users and lists on rocklinux.org [14:58] <ripclaw> lurker ? [14:59] <blindcoder> the web-archive of the mailinglist [14:59] <blindcoder> can't say I do [14:59] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1139P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [14:59] <ripclaw> ok, i do get the same spam at ripclaw a rocklinux d org [14:59] <blindcoder> but then, I only get a hundred spams a day, and occassionaly one gets through in a month [14:59] <daja77_> sometimes there are $user@rocklinux.org spams [14:59] <daja77_> but not that much [14:59] <blindcoder> ah [14:59] <ripclaw> yes [15:00] <blindcoder> well, I only have that address for a few days :) [15:00] <daja77_> hehe [15:00] <ripclaw> i do not get spam at the accounts not used for FOS... :) [15:00] <ripclaw> probably because no one sends me mail there... [15:01] <blindcoder> hehe [15:01] <blindcoder> I occassionally get spam at my company address [15:01] <blindcoder> once a year, or so [15:01] <ripclaw> happens :-) [15:03] Action: blindcoder yawns [15:05] <ripclaw> oh fsck, the oilprices are rising... no more salad for me... [15:06] <blindcoder> I wonder about your dressings [15:07] <ripclaw> :) you wanted to say you wander what i fuel my car with ? [15:07] <ripclaw> preferrably salad leftovers... [15:08] <blindcoder> or that [15:09] <blindcoder> I prefer to fuel it only once every other month [15:10] <ripclaw> i had a car with that kind of large fueltank, too. [15:10] <fake> the vw bus? [15:10] <fake> btw: https://f4k3.net/gallery/v/family/bus/ [15:10] <ripclaw> yeah, it fits an IBC (1mx1mx1m) fueltank... its in line for complete overhaul now [15:11] <daja77_> fake's tank :) [15:11] <fake> ;P [15:11] <ripclaw> tank - fuel tank or bulli ? [15:12] <fake> not mine technically [15:12] <ripclaw> fake - bulli ? [15:13] <ripclaw> what technicalities [15:13] <daja77_> fake: we can use mine in vienna soon i guess :) [15:23] <blindcoder> ripclaw: nah, I just use 40 liter of diesel on ~800 km [15:24] <th> daja77_: your in vienna as well? relocated? [15:24] <ripclaw> diesel or poel ? [15:24] <fake> diesel [15:24] <daja77_> th: not yet, but yes [15:24] <th> evryone seems to be moving there [15:24] <th> what's the secret knowledge which i dont know? [15:25] <ripclaw> why relocate to vienna ? its euro-union, too ... [15:25] <blindcoder> VATERLANDSVERRAETER! [15:25] <blindcoder> another one, even [15:25] <blindcoder> XTaran also deserted to .ch [15:25] <ripclaw> ch is ok :) [15:25] <daja77_> argh damn freenode [15:26] Nick change: daja77_ -> daja77 [15:26] <blindcoder> AARRGGHH [15:26] <blindcoder> okay, this is so damn stupid [15:26] <ripclaw> also, i do not know why cry for DE - i prefer myself as hessian... the govmt ere is nothing to be proud of [15:26] <ripclaw> they break the law. [15:26] <blindcoder> we can't get help from the people in munich 'because they are too expensive' [15:26] <blindcoder> so we fly in a bunch of chinese... [15:27] <blindcoder> ripclaw: see, it's why I'm a Barbarian err... Bavarian :) [15:27] <ripclaw> *smiling* may swallow noodlesoup whole ? [15:27] <ripclaw> :) [15:28] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1397P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [15:29] <ripclaw> preferrably not importing chinese... using bombay people... get stuck more at airport control :) [15:29] <blindcoder> I prefer to have my food liquid, with a good vintage of malt and hop [15:29] <blindcoder> we'll route them through bombay :) [15:29] <ripclaw> what you got in suitcase ? bomb *screaming*[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D [15:30] <blindcoder> "No jokes about bombs!" - "We take our bombs very serious." [15:30] <ripclaw> blindy - hop is not necessary - malt whiskey works with malt alone :) [15:30] <ripclaw> and beer is no liquid, its grundnahrungsmittel [15:31] <daja77> th: you remember that we had world domination on the roadmap? ;) [15:31] <blindcoder> yeah, it's why it only has 7% VAT [15:31] <ripclaw> wd2010 ? [15:31] <ripclaw> lucky you - we have 16% [15:31] <blindcoder> daja77: then go where no rocker has gone before! [15:31] <ripclaw> on beer [15:31] <ripclaw> but norwegians have 18 nkr per can 0,33 tax [15:32] <daja77> blindcoder: hm dubai e.g.? ;) [15:32] <blindcoder> ripclaw: yeah, same in berlin... hmm... if I take it from Berlin to Bavaria, will I get a tax refund? [15:32] <ripclaw> you should ! [15:32] <blindcoder> ripclaw: or can I put it on my income tax refund? [15:32] <blindcoder> daja77: the further the better [15:32] <ripclaw> but if you take a beer from bavaria to berlin youre dax-lying... [15:32] <blindcoder> daja77: err... that came out wrong [15:32] <blindcoder> ripclaw: only if someone asks [15:32] <blindcoder> but that reminds me [15:33] <blindcoder> I have two boxes of empty beer bottles to take back to bavaria [15:33] <ripclaw> you want to say - no accuser no hangman ? [15:33] <fake> augustiner? [15:33] <ripclaw> dominikaner ? [15:33] <blindcoder> fake: gutmann [15:33] <fake> aw... [15:33] <blindcoder> fake: but near my new cave there is a shop selling edelstoff :D [15:33] <fake> lucky you... [15:34] <ripclaw> come to hessen... most beer in a single market ! [15:34] <blindcoder> ^o^ [15:34] <fake> i'm going to update mediawiki on rl.org to 1.6.8 now [15:34] <fake> so it may be broken a little [15:34] <daja77> 1.6? [15:34] <ripclaw> pfungstadt - getraenke marhuhn - largest shop europe or worldwide... [15:34] <fake> daja77: why not? [15:34] <ripclaw> is it stable ? [15:35] <daja77> what about the latest [15:35] <ripclaw> aaargh [15:35] <fake> that is the latest. [15:35] <fake> 1.7 won't work because of the php5 requirement [15:35] <daja77> ah yeah [15:36] <fake> and i don't want to update php because <insert lame excuse here> [15:36] <ripclaw> so why update the mediawicked ? [15:37] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1139P016.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:37] <daja77> ripclaw: so that we don't wait until someone uses the injection bugs [15:37] <ripclaw> ok... i know its lame, but i use boa webserver:) [15:37] <ripclaw> all static pages.. [15:39] <ripclaw> ls [15:39] <ripclaw> sorry... wrong windo [15:43] <daja77> i could paste some ls output if you like [15:43] <ripclaw> :) [15:48] <ripclaw> i wonder if init output works too ... *g [15:49] <ripclaw> i have an idea for a cookie to dominate world markets ! [15:49] <ripclaw> fishermans anis with a spunk and bitter orange toppings... --- cash !! [15:52] <fake> update done [15:53] <daja77> thx [15:54] <fake> RC2 build is almost done [15:56] <ripclaw> lots of differences to what i am loading ? [15:56] <fake> see https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Release_Candidate_Bugs [15:57] <fake> the fixes to those problems is all that changed, so any additional bug report is still useful. [15:58] <ripclaw> great, will try it out and report some [15:59] <fake> very cool, thanks! [15:59] <ripclaw> very cool changes on .org, btw. [15:59] <ripclaw> the RC is in there !!!! [16:02] <fake> hum? [16:02] <ripclaw> i noticed that there is a message about the RC on the front page *rumhuepf* [16:03] <fake> yes, i edited it today [16:03] <fake> do you mean .org or .net? [16:03] <fake> i even added it to the "ROCK Linux News" on rl.net [16:04] <ripclaw> rock-cool ! [16:04] <ripclaw> *daumen hoch* [16:04] <ripclaw> .ork [16:04] <owl> .oO( that is what i call "freudscher vertipper"... .ork .org - ^^ ) [16:05] <ripclaw> ouch... was zocking to much ytd.. [16:05] <owl> ytd? [16:05] <daja77> the uf links on .net are broken :) [16:05] <ripclaw> yesterday [16:05] <ripclaw> i noticed today. [16:07] <fake> daja77: i don't care. do you? [16:07] <ripclaw> yes [16:07] <owl> ah [16:07] <ripclaw> *need my dose* [16:08] <daja77> fake: not really, but i haven't visited uf since then :) [16:08] <fake> there is a static link in the lower left corner [16:09] <ripclaw> but thats only etc/BORG_PATHS [16:11] <daja77> don't worry [16:12] <ripclaw> you will be milated ? [16:31] <ripclaw> . [16:34] <mnemoc> w [16:34] <mnemoc> o.o [16:35] <ripclaw> dot [16:35] <ripclaw> . [16:36] <fake> hrm. [16:36] <fake> we should CORE xsane [16:37] <ripclaw> whats xsane ? [16:37] <fake> otherwise there's no scanner support in gimp [16:37] <ripclaw> and why does it coredump ? [16:37] <fake> no, it doesn't. the CORE is a [F] Flag in the .desc file, selecting the package for crystal [16:37] <ripclaw> *dong* headhitwallhitwall [16:38] <daja77> fake: please do so, having kooka alone for scanning isn't that great anyway [16:38] <ripclaw> scanner support is a good idea. [16:38] <fake> daja77: then again, there is the 'one solution for one problem' thing [16:38] <fake> daja77: and space is getting low, too [16:39] <ripclaw> whats the diff between kooka and xsane ? [16:39] <ripclaw> and which one is better ? [16:39] <daja77> fake: well we broke that rule already ... [16:39] <ripclaw> one kernel ? [16:39] <ripclaw> o_O [16:39] <daja77> kooka is included in kde, works quite well but the interface is a bit weird imho [16:40] <ripclaw> which one would you prefer ? [16:40] <ripclaw> is crystal KDE only ? [16:40] <fake> well, removing kooka isn't an option [16:40] <fake> ripclaw: definitely. [16:40] <fake> ripclaw: gnome sucks [16:41] <ripclaw> e17 or xfce user :) [16:41] <fake> xfce is built quickly [16:41] <fake> and it's nice, i agree. [16:41] <fake> e17 though... [16:41] <fake> useless toy. [16:41] <ripclaw> so you have two, of which removing one isnt an option ? [16:41] <ripclaw> i`ld say put xsane on CD2.. [16:41] <fake> there is no CD2. [16:41] <ripclaw> or move to dvd images [16:42] <ripclaw> if you need it... [16:42] <fake> we don't. [16:42] <fake> rocket emerge xsane [16:42] <daja77> kooka is part of kdegraphics which is required just because of kpdf :) [16:42] <fake> and it's there. [16:42] Action: fake scarps the xsane idea [16:42] <fake> *scraps [16:42] <daja77> not that important, ack [16:49] <ripclaw> i know e17 is toystuff, but its fun to use sometimes. [16:49] <ripclaw> what else is double in crystal btw ? and why ? [16:50] <daja77> mplayer and xine iirc [16:51] <daja77> i really like that because always one or the other player works :) [16:52] <ripclaw> in that case its on double functionality :) [16:52] <fake> mysql and postgresql [16:53] <daja77> another one which needs no discussion ;) [16:53] <ripclaw> yep [16:53] <fake> vi and ed ;) [16:53] <daja77> and kate and kedit :) [16:54] <ripclaw> ed is no editor, its a pestilence [16:54] <daja77> at least we don't ship another os :) [16:54] <ripclaw> vim nvi and virus would be a double [16:54] <ripclaw> hey, we could ship L4/darwin [16:54] <ripclaw> for sparc, that is :) [16:55] <daja77> ok we have php and perl [16:55] Action: daja77 hides [16:57] <ripclaw> scrap both, we have c with the kernel [16:58] <ripclaw> c and gas... [16:58] <fake> c and c++ [16:59] <ripclaw> one language... [16:59] <fake> AND cpp [16:59] <ripclaw> and objc [16:59] <fake> _and_ sh! [16:59] <ripclaw> ok, remove bash, sh will suffice [16:59] <fake> python... [16:59] <ripclaw> is dangerous animal anyway [17:00] <ripclaw> dont forget m4 [17:02] <daja77> root of all evil [17:03] <ripclaw> thats nothing new, root is always evil.... [17:03] <ripclaw> *bofh* [17:04] <stf^rocklinux_> premature optimization is the root of all evil ;) [17:10] <ripclaw> posthumous corrections are the loot of all evil [17:16] <ripclaw> woman=root(evil) [17:23] <ripclaw> dot dot dot [17:32] <ripclaw> . . . [17:37] <ripclaw> cu [17:37] ripclaw (n=DE43741@blueice1n1.de.ibm.com) left irc: "bye" [17:38] <owl> re [17:38] <owl> O_O [19:49] <fake> okay, RC2 is uploaded, the gems extracted, the info files created.... [20:20] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:00] blindy_ (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:00] <blindy_> *grunz* [21:00] <blindy_> moin [21:02] <owl> hi blindy_ [21:02] <blindy_> moin owl [21:02] Action: blindy_ wants to kill the mdadm guys [21:04] <owl> the what? [21:04] <blindy_> the people programming mdadm [21:04] <blindy_> the _m_ulti _d_isk _adm_inistratro [21:04] <blindy_> the RAID config program [21:05] <owl> ah [21:06] <blindy_> the mdadm help text is totally broken [21:06] <blindy_> mdadm --manage device options... [21:06] <blindy_> make changes to an existing array. [21:06] <blindy_> mdadm device options... [21:06] <blindy_> Shorthand for --manage. [21:07] <blindy_> hah, shorthand my ass [21:07] <blindy_> mdadm --manage /dev/md/1 -a /dev/hdb/3 [21:07] <blindy_> doesn't do anything [21:07] <blindy_> BUT [21:07] <blindy_> mdadm /dev/md/1 -a /dev/hdb/3 [21:07] <blindy_> works [21:07] <blindy_> even though [21:07] <blindy_> mdadm --manage --help [21:07] <blindy_> explicitly mentions the -a switch [21:08] <owl> fix it [21:09] <blindy_> I'm a whiner, not a fixer [21:09] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:12] <owl> wonderful [21:13] <blindy_> well, I've tried, to be honest [21:14] <blindy_> but I really don't get the parameter parsing code of mdadm [21:16] <owl> hm [21:27] <fake> blindy_: can you please reply to the RC mail wrt. to version numbering before you leave? [21:33] <blindy_> will do [21:33] <blindy_> once ceres is up and running again [21:34] <fake> cool. [21:34] <blindy_> oh great... [21:34] <blindy_> I must fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree [21:34] <blindy_> on a 430 GB volume [21:38] <owl> you can't complain about feeling bored, eh? :) [21:41] <blindy_> I can [21:41] <blindy_> because now I can just sit next to the machine and do nothing [21:42] <fake> back in commodore times i always had something to read next to the monitor [21:42] <fake> comics or a book [21:42] <blindy_> already packed for the move [21:43] <blindy_> oh cool, only 8000 seconds to go [21:43] <owl> isn't there a progressbar or something? might that is a feature of windows, fsck should have, too? *hides* [21:43] <blindy_> fake: anyway, I'm all for the "ROCK Linux 3" scheme [21:44] <blindy_> owl: there is [21:44] <blindy_> owl: it just started 10 seconds ago [21:44] <owl> good [21:44] <blindy_> after I did the command 10 minutes ago [21:44] <blindy_> and now it's 8000 seconds to go [21:44] <blindy_> 2.25 hours [21:44] <blindy_> I'll be asleep by then [21:45] <owl> *yaaawn* sleeping. [21:46] <owl> .oO(somehow 'bed' and 'sleep' are two words, sounding sooo fscking attractive in my ears... ) [21:46] <blindy_> hehe [21:47] <blindy_> hmm, I think I know why it's so slow [21:47] <blindy_> the raid5 resync is still in progress [21:47] <blindy_> (of course, it also takes around 3-4 hours) [21:47] <owl> not funny... worked about - let me count - 10 hours?? dunno [21:47] <blindy_> heh [21:47] <blindy_> I feel like I did the same [21:48] <owl> and what did you do? :P [21:48] <blindy_> but I know that I just made my daily kendo excercises [21:48] <blindy_> and I feel that I can increase the amount a notch next week [21:49] <owl> hrrrr, [21:49] <owl> m [21:55] <fake> blindy_: nice, then we have 3 pro an no contra. [21:56] <blindy_> I don't think it'll confuse people since the last one was 2.0 [21:56] <blindy_> and also people are used to software cutting the minor number (Red Hat, SuSE, Solaris) [21:58] <blindy_> hmm [21:59] <blindy_> the 8000 second estimate seems a bit blown out of proportion [21:59] <blindy_> it has almost done one third already [21:59] <blindy_> oh [22:00] <blindy_> that doesn't mean 'seconds left' [22:00] <blindy_> it means 'this many sectors per second' [22:00] <blindy_> 0%....20%... left (BIG number), 7806 /sec [22:12] <netrunner> 0% .... 20% ... left: you, waiting [22:12] <blindy_> heh, yeah [22:13] <owl> .oO( that now sounds like boy-girl-issues ^^ ) [22:14] <blindy_> yeah, and it's usually the girls fault [22:14] <blindy_> as in this case, too [22:14] <owl> nah, the boys fault :) [22:14] Action: netrunner feels he missed the point :) [22:14] <blindy_> the machine's name is ceres, so it's the girls fault [22:16] <owl> netrunner: you reached a point of communication... then - stagnation, sloooooooow progress... girl: waiting for - the call -> d'ouh [22:16] <netrunner> what? the girls are waiting? uhm, this must be why they aren't calling :) [22:17] <owl> netrunner: y is it girls fault? :) [22:21] <netrunner> I always expected them to call ..... [22:22] <owl> oh. and i am waiting for the guys to call, sms, chat, msg, write mail, whatever me - shit [22:24] <fake> netrunner: get the RC and test it! [22:25] <fake> please... ;) [22:28] <netrunner> fake: from topic` [22:28] <netrunner> ? [22:33] <fake> no! [22:33] <fake> i forgot that! thanks! [22:34] <fake> hm [22:34] <fake> blindy_: i still can't op myself [22:34] <blindy_> hmm [22:34] Nick change: blindy_ -> blindcoder [22:34] <netrunner> !op [22:34] <netrunner> :) [22:34] <fake> An access level of [10] is required for [OP] on #rocklinux [22:35] <blindcoder> try again [22:36] #rocklinux: mode change '+o fake' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [22:36] <fake> ha! [22:36] <fake> muahahaha [22:36] <blindcoder> :) [22:36] <fake> thanks ;) [22:36] <blindcoder> I messed up the hostmask [22:36] <blindcoder> forgot the n= [22:37] <netrunner> fake: now you have a debian swirl in front of your name ... :) [22:37] Topic changed on #rocklinux by fake!n=fake@f4k3.net: https://iso.rocklinux.de/rock-ftp/official/test-releases/crystal-r7734-20060713.iso [22:37] <fake> lesbian swirl ;) [22:38] #rocklinux: mode change '-o fake' by fake!n=fake@f4k3.net [22:38] <fake> okay [22:38] <fake> enough lesbianims. [22:38] <fake> *lesbianism. [22:38] <fake> tounge twister... [22:39] <esden> th and fake are now level 30 in chanserv for #rocklinux [22:40] <blindcoder> esden: I added fake as 25 because th was, too. Didn't know why you made it that way so I didn't want to change it [22:40] <esden> because you can not give them 30 [22:40] <esden> you need to have higher level then 30 to be able to set 30 [22:40] <blindcoder> ah, that'd explain :) [22:40] Action: fake still very amused by all this irc crap [22:40] <blindcoder> I didn't try, either [22:41] <esden> ok ... cu guys [22:42] <blindcoder> why amused? [22:43] <fake> because i don't get it, so whenever i need to get something done, i just don't see why it needs to be so complicated [22:43] <fake> on the other hand, i gave up on designing chats ;) [22:43] <blindcoder> ah yes, the "Why is NickServ and ChanServ important" thing [22:43] <blindcoder> hehe, didn't we all? [22:44] <blindcoder> hmm [22:44] <blindcoder> as progress approaches 100%, speed approaches 0 [22:44] <fake> it's indirectly proportional [22:45] <blindcoder> anyway, I got myself a little irssi script [22:45] <blindcoder> /opme [22:45] <blindcoder> that command will try to give myself OP using chanserv in the channel of the current window [22:45] <fake> what does the +nt on the channel mean? [22:45] <fake> and what does the +ei on myself mean? [22:45] <blindcoder> +n means that only people inside the channel can send messages to the channel [22:45] <blindcoder> +t means that not anyone can change the topic [22:46] <blindcoder> +i means identified [22:46] <fake> and +e ? [22:46] <fake> it confirms i really exist? [22:46] <blindcoder> ah, no +i is invisible [22:46] <blindcoder> +e is identified [22:46] <fake> i'm invisible? sorry! [22:46] <fake> ? [22:46] <blindcoder> see https://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [22:47] <blindcoder> +i (invisible) This prevents you from appearing in global WHO/WHOIS by normal users, and hides which channels you are on. It is strongly recommended that you set this umode. [22:50] <fake> irc seems like a chat where no design decisions were made. [22:50] <fake> they are all left as options to the user. [22:51] <fake> or the server. or the channel. [22:54] <blindcoder> I guess the same can be said for a lot of protocols that are as old as IRC [22:56] <blindcoder> I mean, just look at TCP :) [22:58] <blindcoder> I know the socket on freenode you're connected to and I know half of the socket on your side [22:58] <blindcoder> now I just bomb you with a few thousand RST packets and your connection to freenode will be killed [22:59] <blindcoder> let's say we're on a less secure IRC network that doesn't provide chanserv [22:59] <fake> okay, okay [22:59] <blindcoder> if I can kill all the ops from a channel, I can take over the channel [22:59] <fake> yes, but the tcp comparions is lacking [23:00] <fake> tcp is not ment to be exported to the end user. [23:00] <fake> http, ftp, etc are [23:00] <blindcoder> every comparison is lacking [23:00] <blindcoder> http for example is stateless [23:00] <blindcoder> where IRC is not [23:00] <fake> however, i'm much too tired now [23:00] <blindcoder> hehe [23:00] <blindcoder> same here [23:00] <blindcoder> I'm just waiting for ceres to finish [23:00] <fake> i'm awake since 8 and have slept 2 hrs the night before [23:01] <blindcoder> and I haven't had my baileys yet >_< [23:01] <fake> i'm already drinking wine [23:01] <fake> and it makes me even more tired [23:02] <fake> *YAAAAAAAAWN* [23:02] <blindcoder> oooh [23:02] <blindcoder> now reiserfsck is writing the leafs(?) onto the disk [23:02] <fake> n8, have fun drinking ;) [23:02] <blindcoder> 70000 to go [23:02] <blindcoder> 14 per second [23:22] <blindcoder> okay, bedtime [23:22] <blindcoder> bye [23:22] Nick change: blindcoder -> blindy [23:22] <owl> gn8 blindy [23:40] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1397P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] --- Fri Jul 14 2006