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[00:55] <stf^rocklinux_> stf^rocklinux
[00:56] <stf^rocklinux_> ...
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[06:56] <blindcoder> moin
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[08:53] #rocklinux: mode change '+v blindcoder' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.
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[10:10] <blindcoder> hmm
[10:10] <blindcoder> can someone confirm this:
[10:10] <blindcoder> rocket emerge linux26{,-source}
[10:10] <blindcoder> starts Download, but doesn't actually download anything
[10:11] <blindcoder> fake: 
[10:45] <daja77_> rocket emerge linux=linux26 perhaps?
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[12:10] <stf^rocklinux_> stf^rocklinux
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[12:43] <blindcoder> re
[12:44] <blindcoder> daja77_: same result
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[14:42] <owl> moin
[14:45] <daja77> th: ping
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[17:55] <fake> moin
[17:55] <owl> hi fake 
[18:02] <blindcoder> moin owl, daja77, fake
[18:03] <owl> hi blindy
[18:08] <fake> hm, do you know a good site with virtual machine speed comparsion?
[18:08] <fake> i'm not sure wether i want to use vmware, or qemu, or maybe something else
[18:08] <blindcoder> no
[18:10] <blindcoder> ROCK will not have a gui in qemu
[18:10] <fake> you mean, no X? why?
[18:12] <blindcoder> X -configure leaves you with a blank screen and no xorg.conf
[18:13] <fake> well, then just adopt the xorg.conf already there?
[18:13] Action: fake always writes it by hand
[18:14] <fake> ah, ok.
[18:15] <fake> vmware forbids benchmarks in it's license
[18:15] <fake> well, the publishing of benchmarks, that is.
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[19:08] <stf^rocklinux_> X -configure leaves a xorg.conf.new in /root in qemu, so after a reboot and copying the file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf gui works as well.
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[19:16] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: that doesn't prevent people from publishing vmware benchmarks, just search for "vmware benchmark" in google ;) (I doubt this kind of "Knebelvertrag" is legal, anyways)
[19:16] <owl> hi ringo ! long time no see!
[19:18] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: hey, thanks. i was searching for 'virtualization comparsion speed' ;-)
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[19:43] <blindcoder> re
[19:43] <stf^rocklinux_> wb blindcoder
[19:43] <stf^rocklinux_> blindcoder: X -configure leaves a xorg.conf.new in /root in qemu, so after a reboot and copying the file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf gui works as well.
[19:43] <blindcoder> oh, nice
[19:44] <blindcoder> finally my used-to-be-dual-processor-gone-single-processer machine is dual-processor again :D
[19:45] <blindcoder> I relearned how to mount its heatsink correctly >_<
[19:46] <stf^rocklinux_> hm, incorrectly installed heatsinks can kill processors within seconds :/
[19:47] <blindcoder> luckily, this machine shuts itself down ebfore that happens
[19:47] <blindcoder> shut down like: FUPP! Power off
[19:47] <blindcoder> now I reinstalled the heat sink correctly again. it has two "Schienen" with which to fixate it correctly
[19:48] <blindcoder> last time I did it incorrectly, making the machine shut itself down quite fast :)
[19:48] <esden> hi ho ...
[19:48] <blindcoder> now I have 2 800 MHz processors again :)
[19:48] <blindcoder> which is damn necessary for the software raid...
[19:48] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[19:48] <esden> that is power I would say
[19:49] <blindcoder> yeah :D
[19:49] <netrunner> blindcoder: I ran one on my old k6/2 400 and it was never an issue
[19:50] <blindcoder> netrunner: I run five
[19:50] <blindcoder> six
[19:51] <blindcoder> blindcoder@ceres:~$ df -h | grep md | sort
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/0             471M   21M  427M   5% /boot
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/1             5.8G  2.1G  3.7G  37% /
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/2             5.8G  116M  5.7G   2% /var
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/3             7.7G  323M  7.4G   5% /opt
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/4              14G  2.4G   12G  18% /usr
[19:51] <blindcoder> /dev/md/5             431G  113G  319G  27% /data
[19:51] <blindcoder> 0 is raid1, 1-5 are raid5
[19:53] <netrunner> blindcoder: ah that was you? http://blog.rince.de/archives/376-Wie-man-sich-Kunden-wuenscht....html
[19:53] <netrunner> were
[20:00] <blindcoder> heh
[20:00] <blindcoder> no, thaht wasn't me :)
[20:03] <esden> hrmpf?
[20:03] <esden> netrunner: greetings from christian
[20:03] <esden> netrunner: Christian S. (TUM) ... if you do not remember anymore :)
[20:04] <netrunner> netrunner: I do
[20:04] <netrunner> esden: are you @tum?
[20:05] <netrunner> esden: greet him back if he is still around :)
[20:06] <esden> netrunner: no he went home ... but when I see him next time I will greet him from you ;)
[20:06] <esden> netrunner: sbtw ... what are you doing currently?
[20:07] <esden> netrunner: and yes I am sitting at the brauer chair ;)
[20:07] <esden> netrunner: had a chat with christian and helmut
[20:07] <esden> netrunner: it may be we will be working together again
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[20:09] <netrunner> esden: I am sitting on my balcony
[20:09] <esden> netrunner: that is nice ... yes
[20:14] <netrunner> esden: in a more abstract way, I am preparing for helmut prooving my stupidity next wednesday and trip to moldova thereafter
[20:25] <esden> netrunner: hehe ... really? ... what kind of exam is it?
[20:32] <mnemoc> blindcoder: hi, do you have a copy of the cgi that offer the mirrors?
[20:32] <mnemoc> moin #rl! ,-)
[20:33] <blindcoder> mnemoc: no
[20:33] <blindcoder> moin mnemoc 
[20:35] <netrunner> esden: model checking
[20:37] <netrunner> someone around is starting his barbecue ... 
[20:39] <esden> netrunner: ohh ... then have fun ;)
[20:39] <esden> .oO(helmut will squash him ;) )
[20:43] <mnemoc> blindcoder: moin :(
[20:46] <owl> hi mnemoc 
[20:48] <mnemoc> hi owl 
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[21:41] <stf^rocklinux> I just noticed that initrd mounts tmpfs on /tmp, which has the side-effect that /tmp is completely in ram an cannot be larger than 256 MB...
[21:54] <blindcoder> it's 128 mb here
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[21:56] <esden> urgh ... I wil die tomorrow ... so good bye everyone ;)
[21:56] <fake> esden: have fun ;)
[21:56] <esden> fake: thanks
[21:57] <owl> gn8 esden 
[22:01] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: even worse ;)
[22:01] <stf^rocklinux> do we need tmpfs on /tmp for anything?
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[22:09] <SMP> stf^rocklinux: for not scribbling around one the / filesystem
[22:28] <fake> SMP: hi!
[22:28] <fake> SMP: do you remember the URL of that kde softphone i once posted?
[22:29] <fake> SMP: because i don't ;)
[22:29] <stf^rocklinux> SMP: but should tmpfs on /tmp be enabled by default?
[22:29] <stf^rocklinux> because without initrd it isn't.
[22:30] <blindcoder> initrd mounts it anyway
[22:30] <blindcoder> which may or may not be good
[22:31] <blindcoder> I'd postpone changes to that after /etc/rc.d/init.d/system has been split into smaller parts
[22:31] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: that's what I mean, initrd mounts it, but if I don't use initrd, it isn't mounted...
[22:31] <blindcoder> so that it can be sanitised
[22:31] <stf^rocklinux> hm, the 128 MB limit might be a problem...
[22:32] <blindcoder> guess it's because I only have 256 MB ram
[22:32] <stf^rocklinux> no, it's the default for tmpfs
[22:32] <blindcoder> on my 512 MB ram machine it's 256 MB
[22:32] <fake> it should increase to up to 70%, iirc
[22:32] <blindcoder> fake: busy updating packages? :)
[22:32] <fake> blindcoder: jep ;)
[22:33] <fake> my repo is a shame.
[22:33] <blindcoder> heh
[22:33] <blindcoder> guess you're in good company :)
[22:34] <stf^rocklinux> ok, tmpfs uses half of real ram by default, says linux/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
[22:34] <fake> ah, ok
[22:35] <fake> btw, we should really ship bigmem kernels
[22:35] <fake> as default, i mean
[22:35] <fake> highmem, that is
[22:35] <fake> or bigmem? can't remember
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[22:37] <blindcoder> and SMP and UP kernels
[22:38] <th> daja77: pong
[22:41] <fake> UP ?
[23:25] <SMP> fake: hmm. that url is probably in my bookmarks -- which I don't have access to ATM
[23:27] <fake> SMP: it'd be great if you just query it once you can
[23:28] <SMP> I'll try to. you don't remember anything about that program what could help finding it?
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[23:29] <SMP> s,what,that,
[23:29] <fake> SMP: if i would, i'd google it - i tried, but kde softphone is all i can remember ;)
[23:29] <fake> and there are a few by now...
[23:30] <SMP> you should exclude those that match "junk" ;)
[23:31] <fake> oh, is that under 'Advanced Search' ? ;-)
[23:31] <SMP> isn't that what the semantic web is for? ;)
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