[00:28] <fake> 3 more days til' lotus notes for linux ;)
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[06:48] <blindcod1r> moin
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[06:53] <blindcoder> fake, daja77: kernel hotfix:
[06:53] <blindcoder>   http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/faq.html#dir2
[06:54] <blindcoder> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115315508506996&w=2
[07:07] <blindcoder> fake, daja77: nevermind, it's only in 2.6.17, we're using 16
[07:16] <stf^rocklinux_> moin
[07:28] <ubijtsa> moin
[08:01] <blindcoder> moin moin
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[10:51] <blindcoder> YAY!
[10:51] <blindcoder> wikipediafs finally works here :D
[10:55] <fake> moin
[10:55] <blindcoder> moin moin fake 
[10:56] <fake> *Yaaaaawn*
[10:56] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[10:56] <fake> oops
[10:56] <fake> 266 builds total, 209 completed fine, 57 with errors.
[10:56] <fake> that's minimal-gnome
[10:56] <owl> moin
[10:57] <fake> moin owlita
[10:57] <blindcoder> moin moin owl
[10:59] <fake> cairo is missing in the pkgsel
[10:59] <fake> that's all
[10:59] <fake> without cairo, no gtk+, without gtk+, no gnome ;)
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[11:00] <blindcoder> well, at least until you hit gnome dependency hell :)
[11:00] <blindcoder> fake: how's -final coming along? :)
[11:02] <daja77> fake: thought I added it it some time ago, just for that reason
[11:03] <fake> blindcoder: waiting for th's test results
[11:03] <blindcoder> th: *kick*
[11:03] <fake> daja77: to kde-desktop, but not to gnome-desktop
[11:04] <daja77> hm
[11:06] <fake> yes, it should be separated out.
[11:06] <fake> i'd want as few duplications in those two as possible
[11:06] Action: fake just recently used gnome of SuSE 10.1
[11:06] <fake> YUCK
[11:07] <daja77> ^^
[11:13] <blindcoder> YAY!
[11:13] <blindcoder> got the whole rocklinux.org website locally cached in plain text files :)
[11:17] <blindcoder> finally I can edit the website with a Real Editor(TM)
[11:17] <blindcoder> mnemoc: thanks for the link to wikipediafs back then :-)
[12:26] Action: daja77 pokes fake 
[12:33] <blindcoder> so, any comments about the ROCK Planet?
[12:34] <daja77> the new portal with rss feeds?
[12:35] <blindcoder> daja77: somethingc like http://planet.symlink.ch, just for ROCK related feeds
[12:35] <blindcoder> at least then we would have sensible news on there sometimes :)
[12:36] <daja77> your feed is in there
[12:36] <daja77> well i like it
[12:36] <blindcoder> yes, it is :)
[12:36] <blindcoder> well, I'm going to set up an example version for now
[12:37] <blindcoder> then I'll go from there
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[13:05] <blindcoder> something like this:
[13:05] <blindcoder> http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/
[13:06] <blindcoder> to the left I want a list of aggregated feeds, recent versions of ROCK, recent commits, recent versions of Linux kernel and stuff like that
[13:57] <mnemoc> blindcoder: hi, so you will use it? ,-)
[13:58] <mnemoc> blindcoder: (wikipediafs)
[14:04] <stf^rocklinux_> from the link above: "windows-bashing is easy, but entertaining." How true... :D
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[14:13] <th> please dont push me too hard. few more days wont hurt...
[14:18] <stf^rocklinux_> blindcoder: is ROCK planet planned as a rocklinux.net replacement? It looks good so far, and it even fits on a 1024x768 screen :)
[14:22] <mnemoc> .oO( RL logo needs some 'renovation' )o
[14:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: yes, I'm using wikipediafs right now :)
[14:25] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux_: I'd like it to, yes
[14:25] <blindcoder> mnemoc: err... why?
[14:26] <mnemoc> blindcoder: great that it was useful ,-)
[14:26] <mnemoc> blindcoder: about the logo... looks a bit old fashioned :p
[14:27] <mnemoc> blindcoder: but anything is better than the logo imposed to the RL's fork
[14:27] <blindcoder> well, personally I like Logo changes as much as name changes
[14:27] <blindcoder> ie: not at all
[14:28] <stf^rocklinux_> mnemoc: I created a variation of the logo, see http://www.rocklinux.org/mediawiki/images/d/da/Rock-logo-variation.png
[14:29] <stf^rocklinux_> silly me deleted the source file of it, however...
[14:31] <mnemoc> blindcoder: i was talking about something like stf's ... same logo but somehow renewed
[14:34] <blindcoder> I see
[14:34] <blindcoder> well, I'm no designer :(
[14:35] <stf^rocklinux_> mnemoc: feel free to play around with the logo and place your variations in the wiki, the source file for the original is also there :)
[14:36] <mnemoc> stf^rocklinux_: i have my own war currently, so i can't invest time on contributing :( sorry ... it was just an inocent comment hoping to trigger something :p
[14:38] <stf^rocklinux_> mnemoc: np
[14:38] <blindcoder> anyone care to translate LVP into non-english, non-german languages? :)
[14:40] <mnemoc> if it's a single 'strings file' i could help you
[14:40] <blindcoder> it's three strings file, but otherwise, yes :-)
[14:40] <blindcoder> http://lvp.crash-override.net/i18n.html
[14:41] <blindcoder> but I just saw that there aren't all strings in there yet
[14:50] <mnemoc> *click*
[14:52] <mnemoc> i'll try to get an spanish version for you this weekend
[14:58] <blindcoder> that'd be great :D
[15:07] <SMP> blindcoder: any good reason why you had to reinvent gettext?
[15:08] <blindcoder> SMP: how big is a statically linked gettext?
[15:08] <blindcoder> SMP: larger than the shellcode I use now?
[15:10] <SMP> blindcoder: bash has native support for gettext ...
[15:11] <blindcoder> bash: builtin: gettext: not a shell builtin
[15:12] <SMP> blindcoder: Gelbeseiten, wissenschon
[15:13] <blindcoder> hmm, I remember
[15:13] <blindcoder> I have ROCKCFG_DISABLE_NLS=1 in config.in
[15:13] <blindcoder> I just don't remember exactly, why
[15:14] <blindcoder> http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/
[15:14] <blindcoder> the kernel versions are automatically inserted now
[15:36] <blindcoder> as is the latest ROCK revision
[16:12] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux_: http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/
[16:23] <stf^rocklinux_> blindcoder: nice! the menu bar to the right is a bit small in Konqueror, though (it's ok in Firefox)
[16:24] <stf^rocklinux_> but nevermind, Konqueror has problems with the rocklinux.org page, too...
[16:27] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux_: menu bar to the right?
[16:27] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux_: there is none...
[16:30] <stf^rocklinux_> blindcoder, err, left ^^
[16:32] <blindcoder> heh
[16:32] <blindcoder> okay, I've set it to update every 15 minutes now
[16:32] <blindcoder> fake, esden, daja77: I've taken the liberty of adding you to http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/
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[17:38] <esden> moin
[17:38] <esden> woot we have a planet
[17:38] <esden> is it subscribed to technorati?
[17:38] <esden> does it ping technorati?
[17:39] <esden> or any other service?
[17:40] <esden> or is it another ... I brew everything myself thing?
[17:40] <esden> blindcoder: the rss feed is not working: http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/rss10.xml%22
[17:40] <esden> is the url I get
[17:45] <esden> wow ... that is a nice card @ fake 
[18:20] <blindcoder> esden: fixed
[18:20] <blindcoder> esden: right now it doesn't do anything but collect stuff
[18:20] <blindcoder> esden: mostly because noone of the people in charge has said anything on rock-devel@ yet
[18:27] <blindcoder> esden: btw, why should a planet ping technorati?
[18:27] <blindcoder> esden: shouldn't the blogs do that themselves?
[18:31] <daja77> blindcoder: the version numbers of the linux kernel outranging the box
[18:32] <daja77> nice idea 
[18:35] <esden> blindcoder: sure ... they should
[18:35] <daja77> what is technorati
[18:35] <esden> but when your blog is in a planet ... then your rank raises at technorati
[18:35] <blindcoder> daja77: well, not here :)
[18:36] <esden> daja77: http://www.technorati.com/
[18:36] <blindcoder> esden: heh, being around rank 500k, I don't think that matters much, if at all
[18:36] <esden> blindcoder: that may change ... ;)
[18:36] <daja77> i can make a screenshot if you like
[18:36] <blindcoder> doubtful
[18:36] <esden> that is why I would appreciate if rockplanet would be at technorati
[18:36] <blindcoder> daja77: please do
[18:37] <blindcoder> esden: well, no problem
[18:38] <blindcoder> esden: planetplanet doesn't do it automatically, but a simple wget after each update suffices to ping technorati anyway
[18:38] <esden> blindcoder: thank you very much
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[18:38] <esden_> urgh ... what was that
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[18:39] <daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-planet-shot.png
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[18:49] <blindcoder> re
[18:49] <blindcoder> esden: yw
[18:49] <blindcoder> esden: but I'll only do it once the planet moves to a more... dot rocklinux dot org location :-)
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[18:58] <daja77> d'oh
[18:59] <daja77> blindcoder: have you got the link?
[19:01] <blindcoder> no
[19:01] <daja77> http://lospalmos.homelinux.net/rock-planet-shot.png
[19:01] <daja77> freenode just fscked up a bit
[19:02] <blindcoder> welcome to splitnode. please sit back and relax while we work on getting your connection severed. don't even try chatting, your discussion will only grind to a halt once we're done. have a nice day.,
[19:02] <daja77> hehe
[19:02] <blindcoder> daja77: what's your window size for that browser?
[19:02] <owl> *lol* blindcoder 
[19:02] <daja77> 1024x768
[19:04] <owl> http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,426636,00.html <- somehow this pic looks like a 'photomontage' of merkel... ^^
[19:04] <blindcoder> daja77: okay, got the same
[19:04] <blindcoder> daja77: probably due to the CSS "margin"
[19:04] <blindcoder> owl: you mean it isn't merkel?
[19:05] <blindcoder> but yeah, had the same thought first
[19:05] <owl> blindcoder: well, regarding to the title...:) guess she would be a bit old... :)
[19:12] <mnemoc> blindcoder: or dpi (pt vs. px)
[19:14] <blindcoder> mnemoc: still looks weird with pt
[19:16] <mnemoc> :\
[19:16] <blindcoder> okay, fixed
[19:16] <blindcoder> had a DIV { width: 95%; }
[19:16] <blindcoder> which messed it up
[19:16] <daja77> yeah
[19:17] <blindcoder> daja77: can you confirm that it's fixed?
[19:17] <daja77> yep
[19:17] <blindcoder> great :D
[19:56] <esden> blindcoder: sure ... no problem ... http://planet.rocklinux.org would be nice
[19:59] <esden> owl: it is a photomontage of merkel ... these are examples how would she look like as a neandertaler
[19:59] <esden> owl: if you watch the video on that page you will see also other prominent people converted to neandertaler 
[20:00] <owl> ah, oj th xnm
[20:00] <owl> oh fsck. typing is difficult ^^
[20:01] <owl> 'ah, oh, thx' 
[20:02] <blindcoder> esden: really, I'd like to see this when you type 'www.rocklinux.net'
[20:02] <blindcoder> esden: using some apache mod_rewrite magic
[20:13] <blindcoder> esden: ping
[20:25] <blindcoder> fake: your mail finally prompted me to implement multiple tags per post in my blog software :)
[20:27] <fake> moin
[20:28] <blindcoder> moin moin
[20:38] <owl> hi fake 
[20:41] <netrunner> this planet thing lougs rough ... someone stole the sans-serif font?
[20:42] <owl> *cough* pardon?
[20:43] <blindcoder> netrunner: it's the layout from rl.net
[20:43] <daja77> please add a dilbert feed :D
[20:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: the left column could use a more eye friendly font
[20:46] <netrunner> blindcoder: and the left and right margins are too wide, wider as on rl.net
[20:51] <blindcoder> netrunner: okay, sizes are the same
[20:51] <blindcoder> not that it matters much :)
[20:52] <blindcoder> netrunner: the font is the way it is so that it fits in one line on at least _some_ screens
[20:52] <blindcoder> but make a suggestion
[20:52] <fake> why is the title semi-centered?
[20:52] <fake> blindcoder: it leaves the most prominent space unused
[20:53] <blindcoder> fake: it also is on rl.net
[20:53] <fake> but there, the box on the left is on the same height
[20:53] <fake> can you maybe make only the blog entries surrounded by that gray diff and move the left parts up?
[20:54] <fake> just a suggestion
[20:54] <fake> s/diff/div/
[20:54] <fake> douh.
[20:55] <netrunner> blindcoder: if you use a monospace font you loose space. chose arial or default...
[20:55] <blindcoder> fake: the left part is a lot of stuff
[20:55] <blindcoder> fake: and bound to get more
[20:55] <netrunner> fake: I think the title fell over to its left when the searchbox fell away
[20:56] <netrunner> damn, it just took me 3 tries for box: boks, bocks, box :)
[20:57] <fake> oh, and 'the admin friendly distrubtion' doesn't fit since 1.5.12
[20:57] <fake> blindcoder: it can grow downwards?
[20:58] <fake> blindcoder: what browser are you using?
[20:58] <blindcoder> fake: mozilla
[21:00] <blindcoder> fake: okay, it don't get much more centered than this
[21:00] <fake> uh, no, i don't mean to center it
[21:00] <fake> didn't
[21:01] <blindcoder> fake: what "stuff on the left side" do you mean? Latest Versions, Recent ROCK Linux Wiki changes and that?
[21:01] <fake> the 2 boxes
[21:01] <fake> make that 2
[21:01] <fake> err, 3
[21:01] <fake> damn, i need sleep
[21:01] <blindcoder> yeah, especially since I don't get your problem :)
[21:01] <fake> i was just wondering why there is blank space to the left of the title ;)
[21:01] <fake> i think the non-centered title is nice, we just should use the space left of it
[21:02] <blindcoder> netrunner: also, taht's not monospaced. that's Arial, Helvetica, sans-seric
[21:02] <fake> by moving the Latest Versions, Recent ROCK Linux Wiki changes and that up
[21:02] <blindcoder> fake: ah, okay
[21:02] <blindcoder> so that they are half in the grey and half outside the grey area?
[21:02] <fake> that would break the 'gray background' div, so i thought maybe you could span that around the blog entries only
[21:02] <fake> or maybe that
[21:03] <fake> i don't know, whatever looks better ;)
[21:03] <blindcoder> fake: that's how I understood you
[21:03] <blindcoder> I don't get what you mean by moving them up :(
[21:03] <fake> okay
[21:03] <fake> blindcoder: i'll do a screenshot ;)_
[21:04] <blindcoder> I could put a Google AdSense linkblock there :D
[21:08] <owl> so. it's getting dark, time to leave the house and get inspiration somwhere out there
[21:09] <blindcoder> good hunting
[21:10] <owl> hunting what? O_O
[21:10] <blindcoder> pictures
[21:10] <owl> nah, not pics :)
[21:10] <owl> i am planning to complete those two songs... 
[21:10] <owl> maybe writing a third one... we'll see. 
[21:11] <blindcoder> ah
[21:11] <blindcoder> well, have fun
[21:11] <owl> thx :)
[21:11] <fake> ok done
[21:12] <fake> http://www.f4k3.net/~fake/was-ich-mein.png
[21:12] <fake> that's the suggestion i wanted to express
[21:12] <owl> *rofl*
[21:13] <fake> ?
[21:13] <owl> your filename
[21:13] <fake> ;)
[21:13] <blindcoder> ah
[21:13] <owl> ok,  i packed my stuff, so time to leave finally. bye
[21:13] <fake> what would have been the correct words to describe this to you?
[21:14] <fake> owl: have fun!
[21:14] <owl> thx ;)
[21:14] <fake> mozilla is playing tricks on me, it fails somewhere in moz_build if i just run the version in trunk with minimal-gnome pkgsel, but when i add debug echo_status'es, it works.
[21:15] <blindcoder> fake: no logo?
[21:15] <blindcoder> fake: a picture says more than 1000 words :-)
[21:15] <fake> which logo?
[21:15] <blindcoder> ooh, a heisenbug :)
[21:16] <fake> the logo is on the right here
[21:16] <blindcoder> the ROCK Linux logo :-)
[21:16] <blindcoder> ah, it's incomplete
[21:16] <blindcoder> nevermind
[21:16] <fake> blindcoder: that's only a cutout ;)
[21:16] <fake> whoever this heisenguy was, i don't like him
[21:16] <fake> 8)
[21:17] <fake> blindcoder: maybe move the "Last updated: " to the top right
[21:17] <fake> it's not that important information
[21:27] <blindcoder> YAY
[21:28] <blindcoder> fake: like this?
[21:28] <blindcoder> may look nasty on lower resolutions, though :(
[21:29] <blindcoder> fake: btw, Heisenbergsche Unschaerferelation
[21:29] <blindcoder> fake: you can only tell the position _or_ the speed of a particle, never both at the same time
[21:30] <blindcoder> fake: thus, a Heisenbug is a bug that vanishes when observed
[21:33] <fake> blindcoder: i know ;) @heisenbug
[21:33] <blindcoder> hehe
[21:34] <blindcoder> fake: you mean the design like this now?
[21:38] <fake> yes
[21:38] <fake> exactly
[21:38] <fake> sorry, i was away cooking ;)
[21:38] <fake> just the 'last updated' thing
[21:38] <fake> then i'm quite ;)
[21:38] <fake> maybe even the lower right
[21:39] <fake> very small below the 3rd box
[21:39] <blindcoder> beneath the logo?
[21:39] <fake> on the left i mean
[21:39] <fake> that's even better than top-right i think
[21:39] <fake> below the box which has the blog urls in them
[21:40] <blindcoder> I put it below the logo in <small> tags
[21:40] <blindcoder> I like to see that information :)
[21:40] <fake> hm, that still wastes a line of space
[21:40] <blindcoder> and I don't think it hurts there
[21:40] <fake> let's see..
[21:40] <fake> yes, you;re right
[21:40] <fake> that's perfect.
[21:41] <blindcoder> \o/
[21:41] <daja77> re
[21:42] <blindcoder> wb daja77 
[21:42] <daja77> thx
[21:42] <fake> now let's come up with a replacement for the '... the admin friendly distribution' slogan
[21:42] <fake> we're not even a distrbution, btw
[21:42] <blindcoder> *nod*
[21:43] <fake> just saying "powered by the ROCK Linux Distribution Build Kit" is a bit dry i guess
[21:43] <fake> we need something with cochonnes
[21:43] <daja77> the linux construction kit playground ^^
[21:43] <blindcoder> whatever cahoon... cachoo *gesundheit*... that is
[21:44] <fake> cochonnes is mexican for balls ;)
[21:44] <fake> hispanic
[21:44] <fake> that is
[21:46] <blindcoder> I see
[21:46] <blindcoder> well, I made the planet, you lot come up with a slogan :-)
[21:46] <blindcoder> gotta do some kendo excercises now
[21:46] <fake> "Insert nifty slogan here" ?
[21:46] <blindcoder> I'll be back in half an hour
[21:47] <blindcoder> and you better have a slogan by then!
[21:47] <fake> yes mom ;P
[21:48] <daja77> lol
[21:48] <daja77> linux like lego ^^
[21:50] <fake> "This shit will fuck up!"
[21:50] <fake> "FYI. Bitch."
[21:52] <fake> www.sloganizer.net
[21:53] <fake> «ROCK Linux rocks.»
[21:53] <fake> hehe
[21:53] <fake> hah, i got it:
[21:54] <fake> "powered by the Distribution Build Kit that ROCKS!"
[21:55] <fake> «Simply ROCK Linux»
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[21:57] <fake> «ROCK Linux is rolling, the others are stoned.»
[21:57] <fake> great reference to the installer rewrite ;-)
[21:58] <mnemoc> o.o
[21:59] <fake> mnemoc: the installer saves it's modules in /etc/stone.d/ *g*
[21:59] <mnemoc> i know :p
[22:07] Action: netrunner booting the power of two cores to test the RC3
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[22:14] <blindcoder> re
[22:22] <fake> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor
[22:22] <fake> *ROFL*
[22:25] Nick change: ija_ -> ija
[22:26] <blindcoder> heh
[22:26] <blindcoder> almost makes me wish I had actually seen any MST3k
[22:27] Action: netrunner trying RC3 in full virtualisation. effect: general protection fault.
[22:27] <netrunner> simple acceleration works.
[22:27] Action: blindcoder counterattacks with Colonnel Panic
[22:28] <blindcoder> hmm
[22:28] <netrunner> what about partition table autoconfiguration?
[22:28] <blindcoder> we just found out what prostitutes and Windows have in common: higher chance of catching a viruses
[22:29] <blindcoder> netrunner: add it to the Roadmap under 'new installer'
[22:30] <netrunner> wrong keymap :(
[22:30] <netrunner> or better ... kezmap :)
[22:40] <fake> blindcoder: ask your local .torrent provider ;)
[23:05] <netrunner> no utf8 locales in stone setup for locales
[23:07] <fake> netrunner: are you adding all that to the Release_Candidate_Bugs pages?
[23:09] <netrunner> Copying other files ... /etc/conf/dm/mounts is requested by /etc/conf/initrd/initrd_dm but doesn't exist
[23:10] <netrunner> fake: irc is faster for taking notes and wants no registration
[23:28] <fake> blindcoder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XZBTv5yrmA&NR
[23:38] <owl> re
[23:38] <owl> blaeh, i feel kinda toasted now... 
[00:00] --- Sat Jul 22 2006