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[11:29] Nick change: DE43741 -> ripclaw [11:29] Nick change: ripclaw -> ripclaw_afk [11:30] <ripclaw_afk> ehlo world [11:30] <ripclaw_afk> set afk(food) [11:41] Nick change: ripclaw_afk -> ripclaw [11:41] <ripclaw> hi [12:23] <ripclaw> dot dot dot [12:34] <owl> moin [12:36] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1363P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [12:38] stf^rocklinux_ (n=user@M1385P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:58] daja77 (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-048-092.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:05] <esden> moin [13:06] <owl> hi esden! :) [13:10] daja77_ (n=daja77@dslb-088-072-037-211.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:17] <ripclaw> moin esden [13:36] <stf^rocklinux_> hi all [13:36] <ripclaw> hi stf [13:36] <owl> somehow has a clue about the price-value of lyrics (for a song of course) with exclusive-using-rights...? [13:39] <ripclaw> shotgun, 4 shells ? [13:40] <owl> hum? O_O [13:40] <owl> shotguns? [13:40] <owl> thx a lot ^^ [13:41] <owl> nah, i mean: paid in money... [13:42] <ripclaw> i dont know how much they take for the job these days... o_O [13:42] <ripclaw> no friggin idea, what to pay for it... [13:42] <owl> hrrrm. bad... [13:43] <owl> i have no clue, too... not aobut the money, but about the songs ^^ [13:55] treo (n=xfman@C8082.c.pppool.de) joined #rocklinux. [14:09] <mnemoc> wtf?! he did it?!! ... t2 2.2 was re-versioned into 6.0 (and the trunk into 7). should i cry or scream? :'( [14:10] <owl> ??? [14:10] <ripclaw> nay laugh [14:10] <ripclaw> rxr did crap round.. [14:10] <daja77> ? [14:12] <mnemoc> ripclaw: you are right, laughing is better [14:13] <ripclaw> wtf else 2do bout that ? [14:15] <daja77> guess someone is pissed by the attention we got yesterday [14:16] <ripclaw> so ? [14:16] <ripclaw> let him [14:16] <daja77> sure i do [14:20] Nick change: ripclaw -> ripclaw_afk_EIs [14:21] Action: netrunner rolling on the floor, laughing [14:22] <netrunner> well, most great artists went mad ... [14:23] <ripclaw_afk_EIs> the difference between madness and genius is lifetime success [14:25] <mnemoc> :D [14:28] <ripclaw_afk_EIs> ok, i am out for lunch [14:28] Nick change: ripclaw_afk_EIs -> ripclaw_afk_food [14:48] <esden> netrunner: how did your exam with helmut go? [14:48] <esden> and re hi everyone [14:49] <netrunner> esden: I experienced 3 braindamages and received 2.3 [14:49] <netrunner> esden: he gives not easy, but fair exams. [14:51] <owl> enjoy the ice, ripclaw_afk_food ;) [14:53] <esden> netrunner: are you ok with the result? [15:04] <netrunner> esden: it's fine :) I never cared much about grades, which bites me now searching for a job ;) [15:12] <esden> netrunner: hehe ... ;) [15:13] <esden> netrunner: but I do not think that you will have much of a problem finding the right job for you ... [15:13] <esden> ;) [15:13] <esden> ok ... I have to attend the computer science summer party now ... [15:13] <esden> cu l8er [15:16] <owl> bye esden, hf. [15:19] Nick change: ripclaw_afk_food -> ripclaw [15:20] <netrunner> esden: party? where? want! [15:22] <ripclaw> netrunner: party offline. [15:22] <ripclaw> dont want [15:23] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:24] <ripclaw> cool endlich mal was sagen ohne gelogt werdne [15:24] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:25] <netrunner> rocklogbot: [15:20] < ripclaw> cool endlich mal was sagen ohne gelogt werdne [15:25] <netrunner> *eg* [15:28] <ripclaw> muepft [15:29] <owl> *lol* [15:50] <ripclaw> dot dot dot . . . [15:52] <owl> poor ripclaw [15:52] <owl> *pat pat* [15:53] <ripclaw> dotdotdotdotdotdot *bored* [15:53] <owl> .oO( developing dot-morse-codes. powered by ripclaw ) [15:53] <ripclaw> dotdotdot dot dot dot dotdotdot [15:53] <ripclaw> the art is to read between the lines... errr dots [15:54] <owl> i see lots of emptiness. [15:54] <owl> it's deep inside you- and your dots ^^ [15:54] <ripclaw> cant see emptyness [15:54] <ripclaw> i can see boredom and smorebroed [15:55] <owl> might the drugs work again? :) [15:57] <ripclaw> not enuff... if (doping) then (caffeine) [15:58] <owl> sorry, just have an empty cup of tea somewhere arround here-. hidden between the tft, mobile, plush-tux, cal, telephone, and lots of papers - at least i think so [15:59] <ripclaw> if ! caffein then break exit abort wtf [16:00] <owl> *ggg* [16:00] <owl> white tea? why not :P [16:01] <ripclaw> in a white tee with black spots on... [16:02] <owl> you're drinking your milk with coffee? :) [16:03] <owl> .oO( or does he think about the flies in the cup of tea...? ) [16:04] <ripclaw> no, thinking about "in a white room"... theres a song.. [16:05] <owl> which band? [16:05] <ripclaw> dunno - procul harum ? [16:05] <ripclaw> smthn from the 50s [16:05] <ripclaw> methinks [16:05] <owl> hrrrrrm. [16:06] <owl> which kind of music? [16:06] <ripclaw> dunno watsitcalled ? 50s popular ? [16:06] <owl> ^^ [16:10] Action: netrunner declaring the weekend [16:10] <esden> netrunner: in rosenheim at my fh ;) [16:11] <ripclaw> while !weekend do work [16:30] <fake> hi [16:30] <ripclaw> ih [16:30] <ripclaw> xp [16:30] <ripclaw> hi [16:30] <fake> ;) [16:31] Action: fake just rocket upgraded RC3 to final [16:31] <ripclaw> :D [16:35] <owl> hi fake [16:45] <netrunner> esden: you're in rosenheim? I thought in ingolstadt? [16:54] <fake> 100 GB traffic on f4k3.net yesterday [16:54] <owl> WTF are you doing, guy? O_O [16:54] <fake> owl: mirroring the ROCK3 release [16:55] <owl> aaah, i c ;) [16:56] <ripclaw> get paid for traffic ? [16:57] <fake> me? no [16:57] <ripclaw> schade [17:06] <fake> and another 65 GB on gems.rl.org [17:09] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [17:10] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Client Quit [17:10] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [17:11] <stf^rocklinux_> xorg update is almost complete :) [17:12] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: how about creating ROCK3 ISOs for e.g. Pentium 3 or Athlon XP, or another arch? [17:14] sigma957 (n=user@c-71-236-172-243.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:16] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: hm, i don't really have the time nor the resources [17:16] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: it's just an example distribution... [17:17] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: maybe th can spend some CPU cycles? at least P3 or Athlon XP optimizations should build fine. [17:31] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: remember, it's not about the distribution, i'd much more like to use those cpu cycles on gcc 4.1 / glibc 2.4 / xorg update testing... [17:34] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: that's fine with me too :) [17:35] <stf^rocklinux_> btw. I've already build a working xorg 7.1 some weeks ago :D [17:36] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: i'm currently finishing the addon packages for ROCK2 [17:36] <fake> s/2/3/ [17:36] <fake> ROCK8 [17:37] <fake> 1644 builds total, 1480 completed fine, 164 with errors. [17:37] <fake> hm [17:37] <fake> 1/10th broken [17:38] <fake> that's ok for a practically 5-people-team [17:38] <fake> i'll quickly take a look at the important ones [17:38] <ripclaw> any of my old pkg brocken ? [17:38] <ripclaw> i`m here boring in hamburg through the weekend. [17:39] <fake> ripclaw: what are your packages? [17:39] <fake> ripclaw: you don't have a repository in packages, you lazy brat ;) [17:40] <ripclaw> keine ahnung, die ich frueher mal hatte... [17:40] <fake> ripclaw: sparc stuff, i guess? [17:40] <ripclaw> yes i dun have any, cuz ppl been using svn i dont have [17:40] <ripclaw> and didnt accept cvs or mail merge [17:40] <ripclaw> sparc, some other stuff like wmx wm2 etc [17:41] <fake> you can upload diffs coming from wherever in the submaster webfrontend, which is about as much work as writing a mail [17:41] <ripclaw> if anything in there i can help, i have a brogin weekend otherwise.. [17:41] <fake> ripclaw: there is more than enough work, that's for sure [17:42] <ripclaw> ok [17:42] <ripclaw> i have cygwin or macosx here only... [17:42] <ripclaw> but i think i can do it in the vmware [17:42] <fake> hey, you could install ROCK3 as a start ;) [17:43] <stf^rocklinux_> ripclaw: you could also try qemu :) [17:43] <ripclaw> 7770 or 7740 ? i think i already have 40 installed [17:44] <ripclaw> stf i am not ok to install quemu on customer laptop [17:44] <ripclaw> so, gotta go [17:45] <ripclaw> man liest sich [17:45] ripclaw (n=DE43741@blueice2n1.de.ibm.com) left irc: "quit for quittensaft" [17:48] <sigma957> what gcc version is suggested for rock3? [18:00] <fake> sigma957: it bootstraps it's own version in stage 1 [18:00] <fake> sigma957: any 3.x should work [18:00] <fake> sigma957: 4.0 is most tested. [18:06] <sigma957> I'm using a debian install, and now I get a gcc error on line 141. not sure why [18:08] <stf^rocklinux_> sigma957: what error, at which stage and in which package? [18:10] <sigma957> running ./scripts/Config - running Rock linux trunk configuration, building /src/config.helper.so. - ./scripts/Config: line 141: gcc: command not found [18:12] <stf^rocklinux_> looks like there's no gcc installed, or it's not in your path. [18:12] <stf^rocklinux_> scripts/Config uses the system's gcc... [18:13] <sigma957> sounds right. let me fix the path. thanks. Rock sounds interesting so I wanted to try it out [18:13] <fake> sigma957: it may be that the 'gcc' symlink in /usr/bin is just failing [18:13] <fake> sigma957: though, building in debian is a little tricky [18:14] <fake> sigma957: debians info-page installer backups old info pages to /var/adm/backups, which can give 'file created outside basedir' errors in stage 1 [18:14] <fake> sigma957: but it's possible they changed that (i saw that 2 years ago) [18:14] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: here, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink too, and scripts/Config works [18:15] <fake> sigma957: the symlink is of couse not failing, but missing ;-) [18:15] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: i ment missing ;) [18:15] <stf^rocklinux_> fake: i c :) [18:15] <fake> stf^rocklinux_: if you remove the gcc-meta-package with apt, while another gcc version is installed, there will be no cc / gcc / cpp symlinks [18:18] <sigma957> well I created the symlink and it got a ton of errors and warnings. [18:19] <sigma957> hmm.. how much space does crystal linux take once installed? that just might be easier [18:20] <stf^rocklinux_> sigma957: about 2 GB with all packages. [18:21] <sigma957> ok I'll do that later than. thanks [18:23] <fake> sigma957: what errors do you get? [18:24] <fake> sigma957: you probably need libc-dev installed [18:32] <stf^rocklinux_> afk [18:38] <sigma957> all right I'll try that too [18:39] <th> yea i can do ROCK-3 mass production [18:43] sigma957 (n=user@c-71-236-172-243.hsd1.or.comcast.net) left #rocklinux ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"). [18:44] <fake> th: a bbs iso would be nice [19:00] <fake> i really don't think more crystal variants would be helpful... [19:04] <th> fake: i'm building bbs-iso and bbs-tarset [19:04] <owl> boys - someone interested in working with a small team of friends on a left (political) magazine, which would be published in inet? [19:04] <th> oh cool bbs has failures in ROCK-3 tag [19:04] <owl> (linksgerichtet und satire) [19:04] <th> that was better in rc3 [19:04] <th> something changed with linux24 [19:05] <th> not cool [19:05] <owl> .oO( offering a TNT-dealer would be helpfull, too ) [19:05] <owl> -l [19:06] <fake> th: linux24 is not CORE... [19:06] <fake> th: sorry, i really don't test that [19:07] <fake> th: though no linux24 patches have gone in [19:08] <th> something must've changed [19:08] <th> last bbs build was without any error. [19:09] <th> i think it did not built linux24 before [19:10] <th> r7754: 2006072219214518561 [19:10] <th> this one perhaps? [19:11] <fake> th: that souldn't affect the linux24 package itself [19:11] <th> no but it may cause that linux24 is built [19:11] <fake> th: ooh, ok, i see [19:11] <fake> th: i though you were actrually using linux24 kernel in bss for a moment ;-)) [19:11] <fake> th: yeas, then it's definitely that patch. stf? [19:12] <th> linux.* / { p; d; } [19:12] <th> sets/basic.set [19:12] <fake> should be replaced by linux=linux26 [19:12] <fake> or linux26 ? [19:12] <fake> not sure [19:12] <fake> the method sucked [19:12] <th> automake=automake19 / { p; d; } [19:13] <fake> yeah, so it's linux=linux26 i guess [19:13] <th> that's why i wanted to do test builds before tagging ;) [19:14] <fake> th: you took way to much time - it's not that important. affected users will ask on rock-user, and the fix should go into trunk soon. [19:14] <th> NOI - no problem here. [19:14] <fake> fake: NOI ? [19:14] <th> no offence intended. [19:15] <fake> NOI here, either ;) [19:15] <th> none taken ;) [19:15] <fake> kk. i'll catch some sleep now [19:26] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [19:26] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[20:38] <bugihugi> hi, i'm running into problems compiling rock. glibc23 complains about old header files, but they are recent. compiling the consecutive packages fail bcause gcc is unable to compile. any hints ? [20:44] <bugihugi> help ? [20:45] <stf^rocklinux_> bugihugi: what distro are you trying to build? [20:46] <stf^rocklinux_> bugihugi: do you use any non-default options? Which package fails to build first? What is the exact error message? [20:48] <bugihugi> um, roter [20:48] <bugihugi> sorry router [20:49] <bugihugi> no special configs, libc23 fails then the new built gcc fails bcause of missing libc [20:50] <stf^rocklinux_> hm, I haven't tried building router target yet... [20:50] <bugihugi> may i paste 10 loines of error code into here ? [20:50] <stf^rocklinux_> sure [20:51] <bugihugi> checking installed Linux kernel header files... TOO OLD! [20:51] <bugihugi> configure: error: GNU libc requires kernel header files from [20:51] <bugihugi> Linux 2.0.10 or later to be installed before configuring. [20:51] <bugihugi> The kernel header files are found usually in /usr/include/asm and [20:51] <bugihugi> /usr/include/linux; make sure these directories use files from [20:51] <bugihugi> Linux 2.0.10 or later. This check uses <linux/version.h>, so [20:51] <bugihugi> make sure that file was built correctly when installing the kernel header [20:51] <bugihugi> files. To use kernel headers not from /usr/include/linux, use the [20:51] <bugihugi> configure option --with-headers. [20:51] <bugihugi> --- BUILD ERROR --- [20:52] <bugihugi> i mean i understand the problem. i just dont know how to fix it. but found a hint about building one by one with "-job" [20:52] <bugihugi> alos my kernel headers in the mentioned dirs are recent 2.6.xxx [20:52] <stf^rocklinux_> afaics the problem is that the router target does not include any kernel headers - and yes, that's a bug. [20:53] <bugihugi> oh, fine....tnx a lot [20:53] <stf^rocklinux_> you can fix that by using custom package selection in scripts/Config (Expert options) and add the line "X linux-libc-headers" [20:53] <stf^rocklinux_> that should do [20:53] <bugihugi> so i could a them manually in package selection ? [20:54] <bugihugi> lol...just thought about that [20:54] <bugihugi> tyvm stf, you saved me a lot of time...great.... [20:54] <stf^rocklinux_> as you can see, router target hasn't been tested in ages... ;) [20:55] <stf^rocklinux_> you're welcome [20:56] <stf^rocklinux_> gotta go now, cya [20:56] <bugihugi> well, so im going to subscribe myself as a router-tester, lol. i try the fix and report here later... [20:56] <bugihugi> bye tnx again [21:08] berndix (n=berndix@dslb-084-056-173-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:09] <berndix> Hi there :) [21:10] <owl> hi berndix [21:11] <berndix> Hi, I'm quite new to IRC and to this channel, of course... So I have a question about rocklinux [21:13] <berndix> While I'm trying to verify the checksum it fails. Is there any problem with installing rocklinux under vmware? [21:16] <berndix> I hope I don't annoying someone. :-| [21:18] <th> no - no problem with vmware. [21:19] <th> berndix: how d'you try to verify the cksum? [21:19] <berndix> During installation [21:20] <th> installation from cdrom? [21:20] <berndix> from iso, whis is emulated [21:20] <th> cksum of the iso is correct? [21:21] <berndix> One mirror let download me the md5sum file and this was ok... [21:22] <berndix> just a moment please... I can't believe my eyes... [21:22] <berndix> ok... [21:23] <berndix> The check against its embedded checksum of the crystal ISO says: [21:24] <th> embedded checksum? [21:24] <berndix> MD5Sum is NOT correct! Please contact the authors! [21:26] <berndix> Yep. There's an install-menu: [21:26] <berndix> 0. Load 2nd stage system from cdrom or floppy device [21:26] <berndix> 1. Load... [21:26] <berndix> ... [21:26] <berndix> 8. Validata a CD/DVD against its embedded checksum [21:27] <th> interesting [21:28] <th> can you just md5sum the iso file? [21:28] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-0fdce05cfc269bf5) joined #rocklinux. [21:28] <berndix> ok... just a moment... [21:29] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:29] <berndix> Ok, I#ve renamed the ISO, but I think that doesn't matter: [21:29] <berndix> besc2008@defiant:/media/hda6/isos/rock$ md5sum rock3.iso [21:29] <berndix> 0646e9fcf7299d6b88731561fceda9df rock3.iso [21:33] <berndix> I've checked the checksum, because I got package-errors everytime on x.org, kernel-source package and some more during installation [21:34] <berndix> My next trail was download the iso from a differnet mirror/server. But the md5checksums of both isos were the same. [21:37] <th> did you compare the checksum with what is on the server? [21:38] <berndix> Yep. Both where equal [21:38] <th> have you tried another machine? [21:39] <berndix> yep. https://gems.rocklinux.org/release/ and https://f4k3.net/~fake/rock/ [21:41] <berndix> btw: for download I uses wget -c [22:17] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/session/direct/x-0fdce05cfc269bf5) left irc: Killed by Idoru. (Tor connects to freenode are temporarily blocked. Apologies for the inconvenience.) [22:17] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [22:21] <berndix> Well I'm starting to try the ROCK3-RC3-crystal-r7744.iso. If there's any checksum-error I guess I'll have to check my system :-S [22:24] <fake> moin [22:24] <fake> hey, strange people in here - hi berndix [22:24] <berndix> hi :) [22:24] <owl> why strnag?eß [22:24] <owl> shti. i am typing suaheli [22:25] <owl> narf. shit even ^^ [22:26] <fake> berndix: that's odd. but if 'md5sum ROCK3-crystal-r7770.iso' outputs the same as 'cat ROCK3-crystal-r7770.iso.md5' it's most likely the checksum embedding is simply borken [22:28] <berndix> ok, and some packages too?! 2 minimal-installes and two times error-messages about broken x.org and kernel-source packages. [22:28] <fake> no, that shouldn't happen. [22:28] <fake> definitely not ;) [22:29] <berndix> but the checksums are equal. [22:29] <fake> berndix: i test-installed the ISOs in vmware, too... [22:29] <fake> berndix: what exactly is the error? [22:29] <berndix> these two packages won't install [22:30] <fake> berndix: x.org, kernel source are the bigges packages. are you running low on memory perhaps? [22:30] <fake> berndix: did you activate a swap partition before the installer runs? [22:30] <berndix> nope :-( [22:30] <fake> gotcha ;) [22:30] <berndix> argh [22:30] <berndix> ok [22:30] Action: fake gotta run [22:31] <berndix> once again... [22:31] <fake> i'll be back later, if you can't get it to work please write to rock-user, if you want [22:31] <berndix> mailinglist? [22:31] <fake> maybe using the nifty vmware screenshot option.. [22:32] <berndix> ok [22:32] <fake> ack, https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists [22:32] <fake> have fun! [22:32] <berndix> ok thanx all for help [22:47] <berndix> yep yep yeeaah! It worked... :-D [22:55] berndix (n=berndix@dslb-084-056-173-059.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: "Download Gaim: https://gaim.sourceforge.net/" [23:06] <owl> ^^ [00:00] --- Sat Jul 29 2006