[01:16] <esden> owl: yes I have
[01:16] <owl> comments?
[01:16] <esden> pretty nice ... as always ... 
[01:16] <esden> but I have a tip for you ... it is much more convinent when you post single pictures ... and not bulk
[01:16] <owl> y?
[01:16] <esden> yes
[01:17] <esden> because one picture a day ... or two a day one can see between two things ... just as a interruppter
[01:17] <esden> for a bulk one has to take time
[01:17] <esden> that is the same problem as with galleries
[01:17] <esden> nearly nobody is takin his time to look through all images in a gallery
[01:18] <esden> only looking fast through them and stopping at the ones more interesting
[01:18] <esden> mostly in situations when you are not related (photography from events is something different)
[01:18] <esden> that is why photoblogs are so nice
[01:18] <esden> the people post mostly one picture a day or even less
[01:18] <esden> then it is not an effort to look at them
[01:19] <esden> otherwise it is really time consuming and people are less willing to invest time
[01:19] <owl> hmmm. ok that's true (taking time) but - as you know - i'm also doing a bit 'fotostrecken' and stuff... 
[01:19] <esden> I do it too
[01:19] <owl> hum?
[01:19] <owl> .oO( am i blind? )
[01:19] <esden> then I put all the images I think are worth it in a queue
[01:20] <esden> and they come online spread through the week
[01:20] <owl> hmmm. ok. ;)
[01:20] <owl> dunno... hmmm. 
[01:21] <owl> .oO( shit. my head is full of emptiness *cough* )
[01:21] <esden> and the pictures coming online the next two weeks will be from one trip i made two weeks ago
[01:22] <esden> this way I can keep posting images on regular basis ... I have now a big buffer of images I think are worth posting
[01:24] <owl> hmmm. dunno. i 'm too lazy to fiddle all those images in blog-entries
[01:46] <esden> your choice
[01:46] <esden> ok .. I go home
[01:46] <esden> good night
[01:46] <owl> gn8 esden 
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[06:32] <blindcoder> moin
[08:17] <stf^rocklinux> moin blindcoder
[08:19] <stf^rocklinux> how do you manage to get up that early? I'd probably die if I had to do that more than once a month :D
[08:23] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: I don't know. I go to bed and suddenly I'm at work holding a cup of coffee in my hand
[08:30] <stf^rocklinux> ah, coffee. The secret ingredient :)
[08:31] <blindcoder> there's always a secret ingredient
[08:32] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: btw, I'm currently building a crystal, then I'll apply your system.init patch and build the relevant packages again
[08:35] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: if possible please test if 2006080916193243070 is necessary for building bdb44
[08:35] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: i.e. don't apply it and see if bdb44 fails
[08:35] <blindcoder> I have a vanilla trunk buildign atm
[08:36] <blindcoder> 627 builds total, 339 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[08:36] <blindcoder> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120892 Aug 28 01:59 build/default-TRUNK-x86-crystal/var/adm/logs/5-bdb44.log
[08:37] <stf^rocklinux> good :) thx
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[10:27] <esden> hehe ... cool ... next photoblog image went online by itself ;) ... now I can lean back and leave my photoblog for two weeks when I am out of connectivity
[10:28] <esden> ahh ... and good morning everyone
[10:41] <blindcoder> moin esden 
[10:47] <blindcoder> esden: we now have the automatic resetter on Pallas
[10:48] <esden> woooooot!!!!
[10:48] <esden> the gods were nice to us!
[10:49] <blindcoder> yeah :)
[10:49] <blindcoder> I'll be attempting a kernel update next weekend
[10:49] <blindcoder> heh, as if...
[10:49] <blindcoder> http://blog.crash-override.net/index.php/171
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[10:55] <blindcoder> re
[10:55] <blindcoder> 10:46 < blindcoder> http://blog.crash-override.net/index.php/171
[10:55] <esden> re
[10:55] <esden> I saw that ... 
[10:55] <esden> hetzner really should do something about that ... >_<
[10:56] <blindcoder> that's the last I posted
[10:56] <blindcoder> I saw
[10:56] <blindcoder> yeah
[10:56] <blindcoder> I just changed the password to 12345abCD
[10:56] <blindcoder> then sent the hetzner guy 12345
[10:56] <blindcoder> and changed the password back
[10:56] <blindcoder> I would have loved to see his face :)
[10:57] <blindcoder> We had quite a bit of e-mails going back and forth
[10:57] <esden> hehe ... perfect
[10:57] <blindcoder> me asking him about his public key
[10:58] <blindcoder> I simply assumed he has one
[10:58] <blindcoder> turns out he doesn't
[10:58] <esden> they do not have such a thing ... 
[10:58] <esden> damn ... as you already wrote ... I would assume that they have something like that
[10:59] <esden> from the robot site contents
[10:59] <blindcoder> yeah
[10:59] <blindcoder> that was also my reasoning
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[13:57] <daja> moin
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[14:15] <blindcoder> moin daja 
[14:17] <daja> hi 
[14:18] <daja> i am trying rock 3 on my new work machine
[14:20] <blindcoder> heh, have fun :)
[14:20] Action: blindcoder building a trunk right now
[14:20] <daja> well it doesn't find the sata disc ..
[14:21] <blindcoder> the installer? or the kernel?
[14:21] <daja> the kernel
[14:21] <daja> at least i think so
[14:24] <blindcoder> hmm
[14:24] <blindcoder> I don't know anything about sata
[14:25] <daja> it is an ali uli chip, can you check if it is disabled in our config?
[14:25] <blindcoder> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_ULI=m
[14:26] <daja> yeah the module is there
[14:27] <daja> but loading it doesn't change anything
[14:27] <daja> strange
[14:27] <blindcoder> udevtrigger && udevsettle
[14:27] <daja> i'll try
[14:27] <blindcoder> any output in dmesg?
[14:28] <daja> it sees the chip but attaches no discs to it
[14:30] <blindcoder> I know nothing about sata, sorry :(
[14:30] <daja> np
[14:42] <daja> yeeehah! it worked
[14:46] <blindcoder> what was it?
[14:46] <daja> the udevtrigger 
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[14:49] <blindcoder> /* no comment */
[14:50] <daja> :)
[14:52] <daja> the interesting question is, will it boot from hd this way
[14:54] <daja> grub detects hd(0,16), is this plausible?
[14:56] <blindcoder> if you have 16 partitions...
[14:56] <daja> not really
[14:56] <daja> grub said invalid device ^^
[15:01] <daja> hm grub works but the userland does not because of that unloaded driver -.-
[15:23] <blindcoder> /etc/conf/kernel and initrd are your friends
[15:24] <daja> hm i recompile the kernel with the driver in it
[15:25] <daja> http://xkcd.com/comics/pointers.png
[15:25] <blindcoder> hehe
[15:27] <blindcoder> "With variables you move family A into the hotel room, family B from the hotel room into the apartment and family C from the hotel room into the house of family A. With pointers, you just swap the name tags of families A and B."
[15:27] <blindcoder> just posted that picture into another channel
[15:27] <daja> :)
[15:27] <blindcoder> it's funny that I immediately added SFW after it
[15:28] <blindcoder> since in that channel every link is assumed to be NSFW per default
[15:28] <daja> lol
[15:29] <blindcoder> http://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[15:29] <blindcoder> MUAHAHAHA
[15:30] <daja> hehehe
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[16:04] <daja> gna
[16:04] <blindcoder> a
[16:04] <daja> why can't i access the devices in the chrrot
[16:04] <daja> chroot
[16:10] <daja> ok got it
[16:14] <mnemoc> partition mounted with nodev? 
[16:23] <daja> now grub works but the generated fstab doesn't fit because the device had another name on install -.-
[16:24] <daja> and for some reason i can't modfiy fstab in maintainance mode
[16:24] <blindcoder> and that's why we need to switch to /dev/disk/by-foo
[16:24] <blindcoder> mount -o remount,rw /
[16:24] <daja> it is mounted rw according to mount
[16:25] <blindcoder> try it anyway
[16:25] <daja> yep did
[16:25] <blindcoder> or pass 'rw' as parameter to the kernel
[16:25] <daja> strange
[16:26] <SMP> mount just uses a left-over /etc/mtab to tell you this
[16:27] <blindcoder> /proc/mounts would probably be a better source
[16:27] <daja> ah that explains why it claimed to have one part mounted that definitely wasn't
[16:28] <daja> w00t the first time that system booted up now
[16:28] <SMP> /proc/mounts does not have all the information that mount maintains /etc/mtab with
[16:29] <SMP> that's why it is no longer a symlink to /proc/mounts as it used to be way back
[16:29] <blindcoder> I see
[16:29] <blindcoder> daja: hold on to that feeling
[16:29] <blindcoder> daja: when I installed my root-on-raid machine some time back, the first successful boot was just the prelude to greater damage
[16:35] <daja> :)
[16:36] <blindcoder> and that's exactly why I want a new installer that correctly creates the configurations needed for stuff like this
[16:37] <blindcoder> btw, why is chroot in /usr/bin?
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[16:43] <madtux> moin.
[16:48] <daja> blindcoder: i think you are right ..
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[17:35] <daja> sheesh firefox has a dependency on glib:doc!
[17:42] <esden> alll rrrrright ... I managed it to pack all my stuff for scotland in 7kg!!! :) /me *happy*
[18:05] <blindcoder> moin madtux!
[18:05] <blindcoder> daja: right with what?
[18:07] <daja> the thing about the problems later
[18:07] <daja> but it seems i worked it out alright, i am quite happy now
[18:15] <blindcoder> heh
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