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[12:28] <th> stone has too many _unneeded_ requirements.
[12:28] <th> like too much requirements in /dev and /proc
[12:28] <th> bash works without /dev and /proc when i chroot into it. why cant stone?
[12:31] <blindcoder> file descriptor magic?
[12:32] <th> so you say advanced bash features require /dev and /proc mounted?
[12:32] <th> do you know an example
[12:32] <th> ?
[12:32] <th> ahh
[12:32] <th> you mean fd/4
[12:32] <th> or something
[12:32] <th> so ok - we only need proc for this
[12:32] <blindcoder> yes
[12:33] <blindcoder> and the /dev/fd symlink
[12:33] <blindcoder> some stone plugins require a populated /dev to work properly, though
[12:33] <th> why dont we have that symlink in /dev
[12:33] <th> blindcoder: of course - i wont expect such modules to work without dev
[12:34] <th> but i'd like to set root password, localtime, run ldconfig and such
[12:34] <blindcoder> it's part of /lib/udev/devices/ IIRC
[12:34] <blindcoder> yes, it is
[12:35] <th> that makes things unconvenient when doing a manual install
[12:35] <th> hmm
[12:35] <th> i think it should be in the static /dev as well
[12:35] <blindcoder> if you do a manual install you are expected to know what you're doing
[12:35] <th> i do know what i'm doing.
[12:35] <blindcoder> but I agree that there should be a rudimentary /dev directory
[12:35] <th> i'm just sad that stone is too dump to help me with it.
[12:35] <blindcoder> sysfiles package maybe?
[12:36] <th> yea
[12:36] <blindcoder> it's not stone's job to populate /dev
[12:36] <th> actually i was not blaming stone alone
[12:36] <th> stones bug is that it does not fail gracefully
[12:37] <blindcoder> ah
[12:37] <blindcoder> okay, now I see what you mean
[12:38] <blindcoder> have stone check system sanity and give pointers on fixing
[12:38] <th> that would be cool
[12:40] <th> cannot open tty-output
[12:40] <th> hmm
[12:40] <th> not only the /dev/fd link. hmmm
[12:41] <th> ncurses propably
[12:41] <th> text mode works
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[12:52] <blindcoder> hmm, lecker
[12:52] <blindcoder> apfelkuecherl :D
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[13:14] <th> oh i did not notice that we downgraded grub again. but that's cool
[13:15] <th> i hated the note about emacs key bindings.
[13:43] <blindcoder> I hated the new one being unable to boot windows
[13:43] <blindcoder> anyway, bbl
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