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[04:57] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-d006ae448371390d) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:00] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:00] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [08:55] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-211b3aaf21a1c42c) joined #rocklinux. [09:43] <blindcoder> moin [10:11] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-4d21ad6a2974aa1b) joined #rocklinux. [10:12] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-211b3aaf21a1c42c) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:16] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-4d21ad6a2974aa1b) left irc: Remote closed the connection [10:31] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [10:41] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [11:12] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [11:31] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1101P007.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:02] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:07] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-9fea8ecb51dfd352) joined #rocklinux. [12:28] <th> stone has too many _unneeded_ requirements. [12:28] <th> like too much requirements in /dev and /proc [12:28] <th> bash works without /dev and /proc when i chroot into it. why cant stone? [12:31] <blindcoder> file descriptor magic? [12:32] <th> so you say advanced bash features require /dev and /proc mounted? [12:32] <th> do you know an example [12:32] <th> ? [12:32] <th> ahh [12:32] <th> you mean fd/4 [12:32] <th> or something [12:32] <th> so ok - we only need proc for this [12:32] <blindcoder> yes [12:33] <blindcoder> and the /dev/fd symlink [12:33] <blindcoder> some stone plugins require a populated /dev to work properly, though [12:33] <th> why dont we have that symlink in /dev [12:33] <th> blindcoder: of course - i wont expect such modules to work without dev [12:34] <th> but i'd like to set root password, localtime, run ldconfig and such [12:34] <blindcoder> it's part of /lib/udev/devices/ IIRC [12:34] <blindcoder> yes, it is [12:35] <th> that makes things unconvenient when doing a manual install [12:35] <th> hmm [12:35] <th> i think it should be in the static /dev as well [12:35] <blindcoder> if you do a manual install you are expected to know what you're doing [12:35] <th> i do know what i'm doing. [12:35] <blindcoder> but I agree that there should be a rudimentary /dev directory [12:35] <th> i'm just sad that stone is too dump to help me with it. [12:35] <blindcoder> sysfiles package maybe? [12:36] <th> yea [12:36] <blindcoder> it's not stone's job to populate /dev [12:36] <th> actually i was not blaming stone alone [12:36] <th> stones bug is that it does not fail gracefully [12:37] <blindcoder> ah [12:37] <blindcoder> okay, now I see what you mean [12:38] <blindcoder> have stone check system sanity and give pointers on fixing [12:38] <th> that would be cool [12:40] <th> cannot open tty-output [12:40] <th> hmm [12:40] <th> not only the /dev/fd link. hmmm [12:41] <th> ncurses propably [12:41] <th> text mode works [12:48] fake (n=fake@f4k3.net) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:51] fake (n=fake@f4k3.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:52] <blindcoder> hmm, lecker [12:52] <blindcoder> apfelkuecherl :D [12:59] _BoS_ (n=bodo@dslb-088-072-047-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:59] _BoS_ (n=bodo@dslb-088-072-048-114.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:14] <th> oh i did not notice that we downgraded grub again. but that's cool [13:15] <th> i hated the note about emacs key bindings. [13:43] <blindcoder> I hated the new one being unable to boot windows [13:43] <blindcoder> anyway, bbl [14:16] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [14:16] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:19] <owl> moin [15:51] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1420P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. 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