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[00:21] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1297P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [00:25] monk3y (n=morfoh@e178020198.adsl.alicedsl.de) joined #rocklinux. [00:26] Nick change: monk3y -> morfoh [00:28] <morfoh> hi owl :p [00:29] <morfoh> uh! ugly mnemoc too :p [00:29] <mnemoc> ^_^ [00:29] <mnemoc> hi morfoh [00:29] <morfoh> errhm ... no hallo "mutti" today ? [00:31] <mnemoc> .oO [00:31] <mnemoc> Hallo Opa [00:32] <morfoh> danke mein junge :) [00:34] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1309P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:50] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [00:50] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:12] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-096-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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[06:42] <blindcod1r> moin [06:42] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [06:42] morfoh (n=morfoh@e178020198.adsl.alicedsl.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:52] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [06:52] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [07:57] sm0ker (n=sm0ker@cable-62-117-27-103.cust.blue-cable.de) joined #rocklinux. [07:57] <sm0ker> hi [08:04] <sm0ker> i try to build rock lx crystal on a athlon64 but at == 07:51:59 =[0]=> Building base/gcc=gcc40 [4.0.3 0] it breaks with a failure about make check [08:05] <sm0ker> !> autogen -T ../../fixincludes/check.tpl ../../fixincludes .. | !> make[1]: autogen: Command not found [08:05] <sm0ker> whats wrong? [08:07] <blindcoder> moin sm0ker [08:08] <blindcoder> sm0ker: I never heard of 'autogen' I only know 'autogen.sh' [08:08] <blindcoder> which is usually supplied by the project [08:08] <sm0ker> sorry but the failure is that [08:09] <sm0ker> !> autogen -T ../../fixincludes/check.tpl ../../fixincludes .. [08:09] <sm0ker> !> make[1]: autogen: Command not found [08:09] <sm0ker> !> make[1]: *** [check] Error 127 [08:09] <sm0ker> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/rock-linux/src.gcc4 .. [08:09] <blindcoder> can you provide build/*/var/adm/logs/0-gcc40.err to me? [08:09] <sm0ker> where can i past it? [08:09] <sm0ker> same failure with gcc4.1 [08:10] <blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/cgi-bin/upload.pl [08:10] <sm0ker> ok one moment plz [08:10] <sm0ker> ;) [08:10] <blindcoder> did you change some things in ./scripts/Config? [08:11] <sm0ker> yes [08:11] <blindcoder> which? [08:11] <sm0ker> i've triefd to build with uclibc, now with glibc, jailing is on... [08:11] <sm0ker> i have to look [08:12] <sm0ker> it's my first try with rock [08:12] <sm0ker> ;) [08:12] <blindcoder> I never tried jailing [08:12] <sm0ker> Your file has been saved to data//root/0-gcc40.err"; [08:12] <blindcoder> great [08:14] <blindcoder> hmm [08:14] <blindcoder> seems to be a non-fatal error on gcc's side [08:14] <blindcoder> but ROCK breaks because an error happened [08:14] <sm0ker> also build addons is on,abort/retry on package failure is on, creat packages/checksum is on, [08:15] <sm0ker> ... [08:15] <blindcoder> addons will most certainly fail [08:15] <sm0ker> ahh [08:15] <sm0ker> ok [08:15] <sm0ker> so i can switch it off? [08:15] <blindcoder> you can, yes [08:15] <sm0ker> k [08:15] <sm0ker> thx [08:15] <blindcoder> 1935 builds total, 597 completed fine, 10 with errors. [08:16] <blindcoder> that's from a build with add-ons, started about a week ago [08:16] <blindcoder> abort/retry and packages/checksums is good [08:16] <blindcoder> ah, you activated 'make check', didn't you? [08:16] <sm0ker> yes make check is activated [08:17] <blindcoder> deactivate it [08:17] <sm0ker> hmm.. [08:17] <blindcoder> it's what causes the gcc error [08:17] <blindcoder> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-03/msg00361.html [08:17] <sm0ker> the problem is, i've builded lfs and gentoo often and one build!! was corrupt cause i don't made make check [08:17] <sm0ker> ok i try it [08:17] <sm0ker> thx!! [08:18] <blindcoder> interesting [08:18] <blindcoder> can't say I ever experienced that [08:18] <blindcoder> you may want to try only building gcc without make check [08:18] <blindcoder> then reactivating it [08:18] <blindcoder> btw, I see at your hostmask that you're from germany [08:18] <sm0ker> how to break the whole build? strg + c? [08:19] <sm0ker> yes i'm from germany [08:19] <blindcoder> yes [08:19] <blindcoder> will you be at the Linux-Info-Tag in Dresden? [08:19] <sm0ker> i thought it's an english channel [08:19] <sm0ker> no my last linux day was 2001 [08:19] <blindcoder> it is, but most people here speak german, too :) [08:19] <sm0ker> ok [08:19] <sm0ker> dann kann ich also deutsch schwatzen [08:19] <blindcoder> ah, okay [08:19] <sm0ker> cool [08:19] <sm0ker> :) [08:19] <blindcoder> klar :) [08:19] <sm0ker> hrhr [08:20] <sm0ker> das macht es ein wenig einfacher [08:20] <blindcoder> ich dachte, ich koennte dich fuer den ROCK Linux Workshop dort begeistern :) [08:20] <sm0ker> ui [08:20] <sm0ker> muss mir das ja erstmal anschauen... [08:20] <sm0ker> :) [08:20] <blindcoder> jo [08:20] <sm0ker> habe da gleich noch ne frage [08:20] <blindcoder> schiess los [08:20] <sm0ker> nen pures 64 bit, kann man das inzwischen auf uclibc vbauen? [08:21] <sm0ker> hatte des mal mit gentoo versucht und nach tagen des bauens festgestellt dass es garnet geht [08:21] <blindcoder> wir haben leider unseren uclibc maintainer verloren [08:21] <blindcoder> also vermutlich: nein [08:21] <sm0ker> :( [08:21] <sm0ker> mist [08:22] <sm0ker> hab die uclibc leider noch nie bei einem build einsetzen koennen [08:22] <blindcoder> ich hab sie bei Nethack Linux mal verwendet [08:22] <sm0ker> weil bei lfs ist sie auch unstable/testing und gentoo ging garnet [08:22] <blindcoder> aber darueber hinaus auch keine Erfahrung [08:22] <sm0ker> ok [08:22] <sm0ker> so build rennt wieder... [08:22] <sm0ker> :) [08:23] <sm0ker> mal gucken obs nun geht [08:23] <blindcoder> gut, halt uns auf dem Laufenden :) [08:23] <sm0ker> aber wie gesagt das mit make chack habe ich mir irgendwann angewoehnt [08:23] <sm0ker> hehe [08:23] <blindcoder> kann sein, dass hier mal laengere Antwortzeiten herrschen [08:23] <sm0ker> ok! [08:23] <sm0ker> kein them [08:23] <sm0ker> a [08:23] <blindcoder> apropos antwortzeiten [08:23] <blindcoder> ich hol mir mal eben nen kaffee [08:23] <sm0ker> lol [08:24] <sm0ker> wollt eigentlich nochmal ins bett, aber ich werd mir dann wohl auch mal einen brauen [08:26] <sm0ker> wenn die addons ja eh fehler machen, wieso sind sie dann als option in dem 'config' script? [08:28] <sm0ker> und warum ist kein support fuer ccache drinne? des waere doch auch sehr praktisch, wenn ein build abbricht hast das was schon 'gestimmt' hat im cache [08:29] <sm0ker> blindcoder musst du den kaffee erst noch kaufen ;-) [08:29] <blindcoder> folgendes: [08:29] <blindcoder> Crystal ist ein fester Paketsatz [08:29] <blindcoder> ccache support ist drin [08:29] <blindcoder> dieser Paketsatz ist durch das CORE Flag in den .desc files bestimmt [08:29] <blindcoder> nein, aber zur Maschine laufen, die ist am Ende des Ganges [08:29] <sm0ker> ahso! wusste ich net sorry [08:29] <sm0ker> am anede des ganges? lebst du in einem keller? ;) [08:30] <blindcoder> also Schluessel bei Teamassistentin holen, Maschine entsperren, kaffee holen (3 Tassen, Thinkgeek Thermotasse), schluessel zurueckbringen [08:30] <blindcoder> wir haben hier im haus zwei Dallmayr Automaten [08:30] <sm0ker> ahso [08:30] <blindcoder> fuer aussenstehende kostet der Kaffee [08:30] <blindcoder> Mitarbeiter kriegen den Schluessel fuer kostenlosen Kaffee :) [08:30] <sm0ker> hehe, wie die schlisser im knast, schluessel holen, schlissen, schluessel abgeben ;) [08:31] <sm0ker> lol [08:31] <blindcoder> hehe, ja :) [08:31] <sm0ker> wo arbeitest du wenn ich fragen darf? [08:31] <blindcoder> nennt sich Grosskonzern [08:31] <sm0ker> ahso [08:31] <blindcoder> Siemens COM, also bald Nokia-Siemens Networks [08:31] <sm0ker> und nebenbei kannst du hier hilfe stellung fuer rock linux geben... [08:31] <sm0ker> des rockt ja [08:32] <sm0ker> :) [08:32] <blindcoder> hehe, ja :) [08:32] Action: sm0ker leider keinen job hat [08:32] <blindcoder> momentan wurschteln meine Anlagen alleine vor sich hin [08:32] <blindcoder> aber nur bis der Kaffee alle ist :( [08:32] <sm0ker> :( [08:32] <blindcoder> also, zurueck zu den addons :) [08:33] <blindcoder> diese CORE Pakete definieren Crystal, und wir - das ROCK Linux Team - garantieren dafuer, dass diese Pakete funktionieren [08:33] <blindcoder> fuer alle nicht-CORE Pakete (Add-On Pakete) tun wir das nicht [08:33] <blindcoder> daher ist es deaktiviert [08:34] <sm0ker> verstehe [08:34] <blindcoder> siehe https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Basic_Packages fuer Definition von CORE Paketen [08:34] <blindcoder> und https://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Third_Party_Software fuer AddOn Pakete [08:35] <sm0ker> ok [08:35] <sm0ker> was zu lesen! [08:35] <sm0ker> :) [08:39] <blindcoder> so, kaffee alle [08:39] <blindcoder> muss dann mal ran, bin aber unregelmaessig mal hier [08:39] <blindcoder> bis denn, und viel erolg! [08:40] <sm0ker> ok und danke [08:40] <sm0ker> bis dann [08:52] <sm0ker> hmm.. [08:52] <sm0ker> glibc mag net builden. habe make check aus und trotzdem net... [08:53] <sm0ker> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-glibc23.out | !> (.text+0xb506): undefined reference to `__stack_chk_fail' | !> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | !> make[2]: *** [/sources/rock-linux/src.glibc23.1157438397 .. [08:54] <sm0ker> koennte es sein, dass ich nicht auf einem 64 bit host bauen sollte, oder baut er einen eigenen tool chain? [08:59] <sm0ker> wenn ich ueber die bash cflags gesetzt habe, setzt das 'build script' die dann wieder zurueck? [09:18] <sm0ker> bbl [09:18] sm0ker (n=sm0ker@cable-62-117-27-103.cust.blue-cable.de) left irc: "BitchX: double your pleasure, double your fun!" [09:48] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-c8e7da01b81fdcbb) joined #rocklinux. [09:49] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/tor/x-62f1555b482d9bdb) left irc: Nick collision from services. [09:49] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [11:04] <blindcoder> re [11:07] <daja> wb [11:11] <blindcoder> moin daja [11:14] <blindcoder> feeling more sober today? :) [11:14] <daja> hehe sure [11:42] <owl> moin [11:59] <blindcoder> moin moin owl [12:00] <owl> hi blindy [12:21] <blindcoder> hmm [12:21] <blindcoder> do we dump cdrtools in favor of 'debburn'? [12:21] <blindcoder> I'd like to do it if only because I don't like schilling :D [12:22] <daja> lol i just thought about that [12:22] <daja> and was about to ask you ^^ [12:22] <blindcoder> hehe [12:23] <blindcoder> I guess there's no harm in having both packages, but I'd prefer debburn to be CORE instead of cdrtools [12:23] <daja> yes but only if this fork doesn't die after 2 weeks like the last one [12:23] <daja> ones* [12:23] <blindcoder> yeah [12:23] <blindcoder> so it remains to be seen [12:23] <daja> exactly [12:24] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1371P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [12:24] <daja> this is completely stupid to switch to that sun license [12:25] <blindcoder> well, not if you consider schillings point of view [12:25] <blindcoder> he's been immerged in SUN/Solaris/OpenSolaris affairs for years [12:25] <blindcoder> so - politically - it's absolutely necessary for him to switch his stuff to the CDDL [12:25] <daja> which did some harm obviously [12:26] <daja> who needs open solaris anyway? [12:26] <blindcoder> yeah, the usual my-license-is-better-than-your-license discussion [12:26] <blindcoder> (who needs solaris?) [12:26] <daja> my point :) [12:26] <blindcoder> btw: 1935 builds total, 602 completed fine, 10 with errors. [12:26] <blindcoder> Crystal+non-CORE [12:27] <blindcoder> bdb44, postfix, openldap, apache, dbus-glib, hal, php5, libnfsidmap, nfs-utils and subversion failed [12:27] <daja> hm [12:27] <daja> brb [12:27] <blindcoder> apache depends on openldap [12:27] <blindcoder> php5 depends on apache [12:28] <blindcoder> openldap depends on bdb [12:28] <blindcoder> and bdb44 fails due to the symlink problem stf^rocklinux reported a while back [12:29] <blindcoder> dbus-glib fails due to doxygen missing [12:29] <blindcoder> hal depends on dbus-glib [12:29] <blindcoder> libnfsidmap depends on openldap [12:30] <blindcoder> nfs-utils depends on openldap [12:30] <blindcoder> postfix depends on bdb [12:30] <blindcoder> subversion depends on apache [12:31] <blindcoder> so it's two broken packages: [12:31] <blindcoder> dbus-glib/missing doxygen ([P] problem probably) [12:31] <blindcoder> and bdb [12:32] <mnemoc> hi, OT but ugly question.... why does RR owns ROCK at freshmeat? can't that be solved or no interest? [12:33] <blindcoder> probably because he's the one who registered it there [12:33] <blindcoder> I'll take care of it [12:34] <blindcoder> hmm, ripclaw is also owner [12:34] <blindcoder> I'll ask him next time he's around here [12:35] <mnemoc> ok :) [12:42] <blindcoder> damn... three hours to build thunderbird [12:43] <blindcoder> it's a god-damn mail client! [12:51] Action: mnemoc prefers 'claws' [12:52] <blindcoder> mutt here [12:52] <th> dito [12:53] <blindcoder> moin th [12:53] <th> hi blindcoder [12:53] <mnemoc> that's not fare, i was talking about graphic clients :) [12:53] <th> mnemoc: it runs with xterm [12:53] <th> mnemoc: which uses fonts [12:53] <blindcoder> mnemoc: heh. I was using mozilla for a while but it's just uncomfortable [12:53] <th> that's graphics [12:53] <mnemoc> urxvt ,-) [12:54] <blindcoder> ctrl+click click click, drag to spam folder, click file->clean up folders to actually delete [12:54] <th> blindcoder: you let spam come to your box? [12:54] <blindcoder> instead of: ttt;s=IN.spam<cr> [12:54] <blindcoder> th: sometimes they come through, yes [12:54] <blindcoder> th: also, vger.kernel.org is a spam-pest [12:55] <blindcoder> everyone can post to the lists there, even unsubscribed people [12:55] <blindcoder> go figure [12:56] <mnemoc> they do that to be 'cross-list' friendly :\ [12:56] <blindcoder> th: could you apply 2006083012102918117 and 2006082912163718798, please? [12:57] <blindcoder> mnemoc: well, on linux-raid and linux-ide it's about 10:1 SNR [13:02] <th> php is core [13:02] <blindcoder> and nothing is changing in the package itself [13:02] <blindcoder> just adding checksums and an explanation why an option is missing [13:02] <blindcoder> instead of silently dropping it [13:03] <th> i see [13:03] <th> true [13:04] <th> done [13:04] <blindcoder> thanks :-) [13:05] <th> any time [15:33] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:34] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:48] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:48] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:58] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.75) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [16:49] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.75) joined #rocklinux. 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