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[00:12] nookie (n=nookie@85-124-53-225.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: "Damn, wrong button!" [00:46] <mnemoc> daja77: hi, the update of libode is borked, the [V] points to the real 0.7 but the [D] to a non-existant 0.7-rc1.tbz2, and only 0.7.zip it is there [01:10] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [01:10] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:20] blindcod1r (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) joined #rocklinux. [03:23] blindcoder (i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:26] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1488P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [03:37] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1430P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:42] brian|lfs (n=Brian@216-15-45-30.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com) joined #rocklinux. [03:52] Nick change: brian|lfs -> ReiserFs [06:41] <blindcod1r> moin [06:41] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [08:25] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [08:25] rocklogbot (i=blindcod@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:04] clifford (n=clifford@85-125-149-104.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [10:04] <clifford> hi, any mailman experts here? [10:07] Action: blindcoder == minimalist user [10:07] <blindcoder> moin clifford, btw [10:09] <blindcoder> shawn_work: got some source for that? [10:11] <clifford> we have lost the 'config.db' files for all lists (propably because the out-of-diskspace problems) [10:11] <blindcoder> what's in that file? [10:11] <blindcoder> members? [10:13] <clifford> no. I can list the members for all lists using the command line tools and the web interface. [10:14] <blindcoder> clifford: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2003-February/026050.html [10:15] <blindcoder> if you are using mailman 2.1a3 and beyond, the config.db file seems to be unnecessary [10:15] <clifford> that's a thought that I also just had. [10:16] <clifford> in that case I have no idea whats wrong with our mailman ;-( [10:17] <clifford> oh! at least I can see now what's wrong with my testcase.. ;-) [10:17] <blindcoder> if you can get the member lists we could simply move to minimalist :) [10:20] <clifford> no. have you tried minimalist already with high-traffic mailing list with a few hundret members? [10:20] <clifford> we've been using minimalist for a long time - it was a desaster. [10:21] <blindcoder> okay [10:21] <blindcoder> I'm only using it on a low-volume, 50 member list [10:30] Action: netrunner wishes a good morning and states he is a happy user of mlmmj [10:31] <blindcoder> moin netrunner [10:35] <clifford> ok - this might take a while now.. [10:35] Action: clifford just restarted the mailman deamons [10:37] <blindcoder> how long can that take? [10:39] <clifford> im getting the bounces from Sep 05 now. I don't know if it is processing the queues list by list or paralell, bounces before messages or both at the same time, etc... [10:39] <clifford> it will pretty sure take some time. [10:39] <esden> hi clifford [10:39] <esden> moin everybody else ;) [10:39] <blindcoder> bounces from _sep_ _05_? [10:39] <blindcoder> that's a _Year_ ago [10:39] <blindcoder> moin esden [10:40] <esden> but ... yes ... also a good mornig to you too clifford [10:40] <esden> that was some kind of a strange expression wiredness ... i think ... [10:40] <esden> has anyone good sources of the X11 protocol specification? [10:41] <esden> x.org? is that the place to look? [10:42] <blindcoder> probably [10:43] <blindcoder> want to write an x server? :) [10:43] <esden> blindcoder: yes [10:43] <blindcoder> err.. okay... hav fun then [10:43] <esden> hehe [10:43] <esden> I will [10:44] <blindcoder> I'll be over there... *vanish* [10:44] <esden> o_O' [10:44] <esden> what ... and why it happened? [10:45] <blindcoder> ? [10:45] <esden> blindcoder: why do you seem to be scared? [10:46] <blindcoder> I'm scared of big things [10:47] <esden> ach ... x servers are overrated ;) [10:48] <blindcoder> yes, yes indeed [10:48] <esden> I am not writing 100 graphics drivers ... I use opengl ... that should bring the complexity down [10:48] <blindcoder> but I have yet to find a good aalib enabled video player with readable subtitle support [10:48] <blindcoder> ooooh, opengl [10:48] <blindcoder> and you'll probably use a code generator to create 90% of the work from a mindmap [10:49] <blindcoder> you'll just have to fill in the remaining 10% [10:49] <esden> I use lisp ... so ... yes [10:49] Action: blindcoder vanishes again [10:50] <esden> lol [10:51] <esden> you read my blog ... so you know that i played around with cl-opengl ;) [10:51] <blindcoder> *nod* [11:14] clifford (n=clifford@85-125-149-104.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left #rocklinux. [11:32] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1279P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:36] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1488P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) [12:08] Nick change: blindcoder -> blindmartyr [12:09] Nick change: blindmartyr -> blindcoder [12:23] <blindcoder> OOOH [12:23] <blindcoder> rocksm, rocksvn and rockuser mail! [12:41] <th> true! [12:43] #rocklinux: mode change '+o blindcoder' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. [12:43] Topic changed on #rocklinux by blindcoder!i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder: ROCK Workshop in Dresden: https://linuxinfotag.de/86/detail/98 || Mailinglists seem to work sporadically again - stay tuned for more information! || ROCK 3 released: Crystal binary at: https://gems.rocklinux.org/release/ROCK3-crystal-r7770.iso [12:44] #rocklinux: mode change '-o blindcoder' by blindcoder!i=blindcod@tor/regular/blindcoder [13:00] <owl> moin [13:01] <blindcoder> moin moimn owl [13:46] <blindcoder> hmm [13:46] <blindcoder> anyone know why my atd only runs root-owned jobs? [13:48] <mnemoc> blindcoder: drop atd and use bcron ,-) [13:49] <blindcoder> :P [13:50] <blindcoder> File a000070126a9ff is in wrong format - aborting [13:50] <blindcoder> o_O [13:51] <mnemoc> blindcoder: OT: the file at libode updates a few days ago doesn't exist upstream anylonger (or on the mirrors) and it doesn't even match the [V] :p [13:52] <blindcoder> mnemoc: eww [13:52] <daja77> mnemoc: ah right you already told us ^^ [13:53] <mnemoc> daja77: hi! ... sorry i thought you have not read it :p [13:53] <mnemoc> sorry for the dupe :( [13:53] <daja77> well perhaps i should update to 0.7 [13:54] <daja77> mnemoc: you are using rock? [13:54] <mnemoc> that was my goal :p [13:54] <mnemoc> not really [13:54] <mnemoc> but i still have an automatic mirror screaming to my mailbox each 2h :p [13:55] <daja77> ic [13:56] <blindcoder> AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [13:56] <blindcoder> if (fscanf(stream, "#!/bin/sh\n# atrun uid=%d gid=%d\n# mail %8s %d", ... [13:56] <blindcoder> my login name is 10 characters... [13:56] <mnemoc> :D [13:57] <blindcoder> besides, at 3.1.7 is a few years old [13:57] <blindcoder> there really should be a newer version [13:58] <blindcoder> at least I found a 3.1.8 patch from 2003 [13:59] <mnemoc> what does debian have? they always takeover 'old packages' [13:59] <daja77> mnemoc: btw i don't have an rc version of it here [14:00] <daja77> but they changed to zip -.- [14:01] <blindcoder> mnemoc: seems like the debian package now is the 'upstream' version [14:02] <daja77> huh? the scripts can't handle zipfiles? [14:03] <mnemoc> daja77: the last i see is r7903, ode-src-0.7-rc1.tbz2 .... is https://www.rocklinux.net/svn/rock-linux/trunk right? [14:03] <blindcoder> daja77: indeed they can't [14:04] <daja77> mnemoc: interesting [14:04] Action: blindcoder updating at to 3.1.8 11 [14:05] <mnemoc> for zip $here i have a $customextract variable which can be defined by the package, and if it's empty one based on the filename is assigned. [14:06] <daja77> ok i'll postpone the libode thing .. [14:06] <blindcoder> we could just include .zip handling [15:13] <blindcoder> !alarm now + 5 minutes "Call Manfred" [15:13] <rocklogbot> blindcoder: job 31 at 2006-09-19 15:15 [15:18] <rocklogbot> blindcoder: Call Manfred [15:53] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-061-116-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:02] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-061-115-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Connection timed out [16:02] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [16:55] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1279P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [16:58] <shawn_work> blindcoder: pong? [16:58] <shawn_work> <blindcoder> shawn_work: got some source for that? <--? [17:21] ubijtsa_ (n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk) joined #rocklinux. [17:32] ubijtsa (n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [18:02] clifford (n=clifford@85-125-149-104.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [18:02] <clifford> jfyi: phoenix is pretty busy sending mails since today morning: [18:03] <clifford> load average: 21.70, 91.78, 75.38 [18:03] <daja77> i noticed in my inbox ^^ [18:03] <clifford> atm ~2000 processes. [18:03] <daja77> clifford: are you goin to luga tomorrow? [18:04] <clifford> don't think so. [18:04] <daja77> thought so [18:04] <clifford> are you brave enought to go alone? ;-) [18:04] <daja77> dunno ^^ [18:04] <daja77> depends on my mood .. [18:04] <clifford> ic. [18:05] <daja77> do you know if i can enter it? [18:05] <clifford> where is it this time? hopfenstange or the other location? [18:05] <blindcoder> shawn_work: 23:13 < shawn_work> Are you aware that the word 'Rocks' is about to be trademarked? [18:06] <daja77> clifford: kaiserwalzer [18:06] <blindcoder> clifford: how long do you think phoenix will hold up now? [18:06] <shawn_work> blindcoder: yes [18:06] <shawn_work> see Rocks License: [18:06] <clifford> daja77: in that case it should be no problem if I remember correctly [18:07] <shawn_work> # [18:07] <shawn_work> # 4. Neither the name or logo of this software nor the names of its [18:07] <shawn_work> # authors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this [18:07] <shawn_work> # software without specific prior written permission. The name of the [18:07] <shawn_work> # software includes the following terms, and any derivatives thereof: [18:07] <shawn_work> # "Rocks", "Rocks Clusters", and "Avalanche Installer [18:07] <shawn_work> they plan on trademarking Rocks [18:07] <clifford> blindcoder: well - we will switch to the new phoenix some time the next days. [18:07] <shawn_work> they use an obnoxious BSD license [18:07] <clifford> there we have about ~100G free diskspace. [18:07] <blindcoder> clifford: great! [18:08] <blindcoder> clifford: what was filling up the disk, anyway? [18:08] <blindcoder> shawn_work: yeah, got a link for that trademarking intention? [18:08] <clifford> well - there is a lot of stuff on the server. [18:08] <shawn_work> blindcoder: I don't have that info yet, but they are trying to get the trademark [18:09] <daja77> rocklinux is not derived from any sw called rocks .. [18:09] <blindcoder> shawn_work: where did you learn this/ [18:09] <clifford> i'veinvestigated it a bit the last days and it is nothing special. [18:09] <clifford> but lurker needs about 400MB for its temporary html files. [18:09] <blindcoder> clifford: eww [18:09] <shawn_work> blindcoder: well, I work on a open source fork of NPACI Rocks [18:09] <clifford> so when lurker has just purged his files it is not a solution to free up less than 400MB.. [18:09] <blindcoder> shawn_work: ah, I see [18:10] <shawn_work> and they have clear intentions on trademarking 'Rocks' [18:10] <shawn_work> hence the license blurb [18:10] <clifford> right now we have ~900M free on current phoenix. [18:10] <shawn_work> blindcoder: knowing about ROCK Linux, i thought I'd just mention that incase they went after you guys [18:10] <blindcoder> clifford: in a few days a 20 GB and a 120 GB will be free here [18:11] <blindcoder> clifford: would they be of any use to you in (old|new) phoenix? [18:11] <blindcoder> shawn_work: thanks for letting us know. I'll look into whether this will affect us [18:11] <clifford> new phoenix is a root server - so no chance to add additional disks there. [18:11] <blindcoder> shawn_work: drop by my place for a beer when you're in Berlin :) [18:12] <blindcoder> clifford: too bad [18:12] <clifford> but on new phoenix we have two 160GB disks and additional backup space. [18:12] <blindcoder> sweet [18:12] <clifford> the plan for now is to use the 2nd disk for backups. [18:12] <blindcoder> sound like hetzner? [18:12] <clifford> yes - hetzner. [18:12] <blindcoder> pallas is also over there [18:13] <clifford> we can later rent for network backup space and use the 2nd 160 GB disk for data. [18:13] <blindcoder> that means traffic between phoenix and pallas will be free :) [18:13] <clifford> *nice* [18:13] <blindcoder> though pallas only has a 120 gb disk [18:14] <clifford> hehe my root server is better ;-) [18:15] <blindcoder> yeah, I already have mine for quite some time, too [18:15] <blindcoder> blindcoder@pallas:~$ cat /etc/ROCK-VERSION [18:15] <blindcoder> ROCK Linux 2.0.3 (2004/11/15) [18:15] <daja77> .oO (my root server is longer than yours) [18:15] <blindcoder> blindcoder@pallas:~$ uname -r [18:15] <blindcoder> 2.6.10-rock [18:16] <blindcoder> it runs on devfs :-) [18:16] <clifford> old phoenix is a 2.0.0-rc4 [18:16] <blindcoder> I'm still not sure whether to rent a new one and kill pallas or update pallas from a rescue system [18:16] <blindcoder> devfs to udev updating is not for the faint of heart [18:17] <daja77> rc4 was quite nice [18:18] <blindcoder> Error logs from default-TRUNK-x86-crystal-expert: [18:18] <blindcoder> 622 builds total, 620 completed fine, 0 with errors. [18:18] <blindcoder> this is looking good :D [18:22] <clifford> afk again.. [18:22] clifford (n=clifford@85-125-149-104.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left #rocklinux. [18:53] <blindcoder> damn, there's still something not-quite-right with kdelibs and the kde-config wrapper [19:28] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) joined #rocklinux. [19:51] [raphael] (n=raphael@raphael.netpark.at) left irc: "using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12" [20:58] shawn_work (n=spstarr@192.219.104.10) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:05] nookie (n=nookie@85-124-53-225.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) joined #rocklinux. [23:29] nookie (n=nookie@85-124-53-225.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [00:00] --- Wed Sep 20 2006