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[00:11] <pyroman098> i'm better than you guys
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[00:36] <giftnuss_> better or not, I see no space for such a question.
[00:57] <giftnuss_> quality matters
[01:03] <giftnuss_> ^ ^
[01:10] <giftnuss_> good night
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[02:12] <owl> gn8
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[11:57] <blindcoder> moin
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[13:17] <owl> moin
[13:30] <stf^rock1inux> moin moin
[13:31] <blindcoder> moin moin moin
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[14:46] <Pilot> people, what if we upgrade wireless-tools to version 28? it's 27 ATM
[14:47] <Pilot> if for some reason this is not desired, i'd offer to build ifrename as a separate package with it's own libwireless-28
[14:48] <Pilot> version 28 includes my essential patches to ifrename
[14:50] <blindcoder> go ahead
[14:50] <blindcoder> in general, there's no reason _not_ to upgrade something
[14:50] <Pilot> in ALTLinux, we were running the second way for some time
[14:51] <blindcoder> go ahead and submit a patch to update it
[14:51] <blindcoder> I'll include it in my next test build
[14:51] <blindcoder> then we'll see if it breaks anything
[14:51] <Pilot> then the wireless maintainer decided to upgrade to ver 28 and i stopped building ifrename. i don't recall any problems with 27->28 upgrade
[14:51] <blindcoder> if not, i'll have th apply the update
[14:52] <Pilot> it was, well, more than a year ago, i don't even remember already
[14:52] <blindcoder> heh
[14:52] <blindcoder> seems like we're really behind on a bunch of update
[14:52] <blindcoder> s
[14:53] <Pilot> * Tue Dec 07 2004 Alexei Takaseev <taf@altlinux.ru> 28-alt1.pre3
[14:53] <Pilot> - 28-pre3
[14:53] <blindcoder> -pre3?
[14:54] <Pilot> that't the first time 28 was tried
[14:54] <blindcoder> ah
[14:54] <Pilot> it's 28.something currently
[14:55] <Pilot> i'll try to find out the way to upgrade
[14:58] <blindcoder> ./scripts/Create-PkgUpdatePatch <package>-<new version>
[15:02] <Pilot> blindcoder: thanks
[18:01] <Pilot> version 28 is listed in the .desc file
[18:06] <Pilot> it's 28 final actually
[18:06] <Pilot> there is no need for update
[18:23] <Pilot> can we move /sbin/ifdown to rocknet?
[18:29] <blindcoder> Pilot: should be done in the new rocknet removal patch
[18:29] <blindcoder> Pilot: https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/index.websplb?mode=patch&uid=2006092710562627885
[18:30] <blindcoder> stf^rocklinux: the 'set -e' patch makes 5-arts break
[18:38] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: I'll look into it in my current build
[18:39] <stf^rocklinux> tomorrow or monday, probably
[18:43] <Pilot> blindcoder: cool
[18:44] <Pilot> there is one more adjustment, not urgent though
[18:48] <blindcoder> Pilot: shoot
[18:51] <Pilot> /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:51] <Pilot> i was checking once more
[18:51] <Pilot> the idea is that /etc/sysctl.conf should only be used for system init
[18:52] <Pilot> each network configuration package has to process its own sysctl.conf file
[18:52] <blindcoder> I'm not familiar with that file
[18:52] <Pilot> really?
[18:52] <blindcoder> really
[18:52] <blindcoder> what's that file used for?
[18:53] <mnemoc> writting stuff on /proc
[18:53] <Pilot> why i request this is because /etc/net can maintain more than one sysctl.conf file
[18:53] <Pilot> 1. /etc/net/sysctl.conf
[18:54] <Pilot> 2. /etc/net/ifaces/myinterface/sysctl.conf
[18:54] <Pilot> and if you use configuration profiles, you can get even more files
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[20:52] <esden> hi guys
[20:53] <esden> can anyone of you dig up rxvt-unicode file from /usr/share/terminfo/r ?
[21:05] <blindcoder> lblindcoder@ceres:~$ ll /usr/share/terminfo/r/rxvt
[21:05] <blindcoder> rxvt        rxvt-color
[21:05] <blindcoder> no
[21:06] <esden> humm ... it seems that one is only in gentoo or so
[21:06] <esden> damn
[21:06] <esden> ok ... thanks anyways
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