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[06:46] <blindcoder> moin
[07:57] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: ping
[07:57] <blindcoder> th: ping
[08:04] <blindcoder> daja77: ping
[08:11] <th> blindcoder: pong
[08:11] <blindcoder> th: moin
[08:11] <th> moin
[08:11] <blindcoder> th: say, sholud I include 'OK' votes in builds at all?
[08:12] <th> you should include at least all CORE patches
[08:12] <th> and we have to sorts of OK votes
[08:12] <blindcoder> th: because now you have applied some stuff that is not in my current build so if you apply the apply_me journal now there's no guarantee it'll be fine
[08:12] <th> those which are OK because they only involve public or personal repos
[08:12] <th> and thos which are OK because of a heavy vote
[08:13] <th> blindcoder: i think i only applied non CORE stuff, no?
[08:13] <blindcoder> th: I don't know, haven't checked
[08:13] <th> i think there were only OK votes of the first type
[08:13] <blindcoder> I see.
[08:14] <blindcoder> th: basically, when stf^rock1inux gets here, we have all ROCK devs assembled. I want to propose something the
[08:15] <th> r7949 - trunk/package/public/blender
[08:15] <th> r7950 - trunk/package/public/w32codec
[08:15] <th> r7951 - trunk/package/public/jack
[08:15] <th> r7952 - trunk/package/public/gcl
[08:15] <th> r7953 - trunk/package/stf/zapping
[08:15] <th> r7954 - in trunk/package/stf: . pyxml
[08:15] <th> r7955 - trunk/package/public/intltool
[08:15] <th> r7956 - trunk/package/public/xfig
[08:15] <th> r7957 - in trunk/package/public: bitstr
[08:15] <th> it's all not related to CORE
[08:16] <th> so you still can be sure that it'll be fine with your build
[08:16] <blindcoder> okay, good
[08:16] <blindcoder> will have to handmerge all that stuff though :)
[08:16] <th> why?
[08:17] <blindcoder> working in my own subversion tree
[08:17] <th> merging non-core things which you did not touch should be possible to happen automatically, no?
[08:18] <blindcoder> I'm not trying to apply patches automatically
[08:18] <blindcoder> chaos will ensue when patches collide
[08:19] <blindcoder> see stf^rock1inux diff'ing and rediff'ing patches
[08:19] <th> ah you can't `svn merge` because it's not the same repo
[08:21] <blindcoder> correct
[08:21] <blindcoder> so I have to svn diff -r bla:blubb http://foo/bar/ | patch -p1
[08:21] <th> so your proposal is to get a dir in the official repo?
[08:21] <blindcoder> hell no
[08:21] <th> that would make a lot of things easier
[08:22] <blindcoder> it's to make it writable for stf^rock1inux and me (who are the only permanently active devs at the moment anyway) and run continuus builds on my machine
[08:22] <blindcoder> a la: svn up; ./scripts/Config ; Download; Build-Target; Create-ISO; lather rinse repeat
[08:22] <th> you better get cliff for this discussion as well :-/
[08:22] <blindcoder> th: I guess that would only fuck up revision numbers
[08:23] <blindcoder> clifford is gone for a long time, so is fake
[08:23] <th> blindcoder: i dont care what the revision numbers are as long as a newer revision as a higher number.
[08:23] <blindcoder> face it, the only developers left are we three plus daja77 for security, smp for sporadic patches and comments
[08:23] <th> blindcoder: clifford is not "gone" - i just met him few weeks ago :)
[08:24] <blindcoder> th: okay, he's gone from this project currently
[08:24] <blindcoder> th: as to how long or why, it doesn't matter. I feel like having to go through submaster to wait for a patch to be applied is slowing down development tremendously
[09:15] <daja77> applying all the broken patches without testing is slowing down the thing as well
[09:18] <blindcoder> daja77: th and I have worked something out in the privacy of a query. expect something to pop up on the mailinglist during the day
[09:18] <daja77> ok
[09:18] <daja77> have to go now
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[13:04] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: pong
[13:05] <stf^rock1inux> just read the backlog...
[13:06] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: the proposal you made was on my mind for some time, so I happen to agree 
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[13:30] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that's great to hear :)
[13:34] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: of course CORE patches should still be thoroughly tested before applying them 
[13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: every patch should be thoroughly tested before applying them to TRUNK
[13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: but having to wait for every tiny patch to be applied slows down development
[13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: just look at /etc/net
[13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that'll be an even greater problem with the new installer
[13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: where I wil have to dump stuff all over package/*/*
[13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that's why th and I propose the usage of branches and svn merge
[13:35] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: I thought we agreed on not to do test builds for non-CORE patches?
[13:36] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: oh, non-CORE stuff. sorry, my bad
[13:36] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: yes, ofcourse
[13:36] <daja77> re
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[13:37] <blindcoder> wb daja77 
[13:41] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: we will nonetheless be happy for a comment on the mailinglist :)
[13:43] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: I'm fine with trying alternatives to submaster. after all switching between them is easy.
[13:43] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: will  do, but since I'm afk for the weekend, this could take until monday.
[13:44] <owl> moin
[13:46] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: looking forward to it ;0
[13:46] <blindcoder> :)
[13:56] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: we could redfine _exit in the fl_wrapper.c to get rid of the error messag
[14:11] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: can you send a patch for that?
[14:11] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: I'll look into it
[14:12] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: honestly I don't know how you mean ;) thx
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