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[05:13] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x8997BE0F) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:19] kensai (n=kensai@206.248.87.139) left irc: "Leaving" [05:20] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:21] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [05:24] blindcoder (i=blindcod@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x8997BE0F) joined #rocklinux. [06:46] <blindcoder> moin [07:57] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: ping [07:57] <blindcoder> th: ping [08:04] <blindcoder> daja77: ping [08:11] <th> blindcoder: pong [08:11] <blindcoder> th: moin [08:11] <th> moin [08:11] <blindcoder> th: say, sholud I include 'OK' votes in builds at all? [08:12] <th> you should include at least all CORE patches [08:12] <th> and we have to sorts of OK votes [08:12] <blindcoder> th: because now you have applied some stuff that is not in my current build so if you apply the apply_me journal now there's no guarantee it'll be fine [08:12] <th> those which are OK because they only involve public or personal repos [08:12] <th> and thos which are OK because of a heavy vote [08:13] <th> blindcoder: i think i only applied non CORE stuff, no? [08:13] <blindcoder> th: I don't know, haven't checked [08:13] <th> i think there were only OK votes of the first type [08:13] <blindcoder> I see. [08:14] <blindcoder> th: basically, when stf^rock1inux gets here, we have all ROCK devs assembled. I want to propose something the [08:15] <th> r7949 - trunk/package/public/blender [08:15] <th> r7950 - trunk/package/public/w32codec [08:15] <th> r7951 - trunk/package/public/jack [08:15] <th> r7952 - trunk/package/public/gcl [08:15] <th> r7953 - trunk/package/stf/zapping [08:15] <th> r7954 - in trunk/package/stf: . pyxml [08:15] <th> r7955 - trunk/package/public/intltool [08:15] <th> r7956 - trunk/package/public/xfig [08:15] <th> r7957 - in trunk/package/public: bitstr [08:15] <th> it's all not related to CORE [08:16] <th> so you still can be sure that it'll be fine with your build [08:16] <blindcoder> okay, good [08:16] <blindcoder> will have to handmerge all that stuff though :) [08:16] <th> why? [08:17] <blindcoder> working in my own subversion tree [08:17] <th> merging non-core things which you did not touch should be possible to happen automatically, no? [08:18] <blindcoder> I'm not trying to apply patches automatically [08:18] <blindcoder> chaos will ensue when patches collide [08:19] <blindcoder> see stf^rock1inux diff'ing and rediff'ing patches [08:19] <th> ah you can't `svn merge` because it's not the same repo [08:21] <blindcoder> correct [08:21] <blindcoder> so I have to svn diff -r bla:blubb http://foo/bar/ | patch -p1 [08:21] <th> so your proposal is to get a dir in the official repo? [08:21] <blindcoder> hell no [08:21] <th> that would make a lot of things easier [08:22] <blindcoder> it's to make it writable for stf^rock1inux and me (who are the only permanently active devs at the moment anyway) and run continuus builds on my machine [08:22] <blindcoder> a la: svn up; ./scripts/Config ; Download; Build-Target; Create-ISO; lather rinse repeat [08:22] <th> you better get cliff for this discussion as well :-/ [08:22] <blindcoder> th: I guess that would only fuck up revision numbers [08:23] <blindcoder> clifford is gone for a long time, so is fake [08:23] <th> blindcoder: i dont care what the revision numbers are as long as a newer revision as a higher number. [08:23] <blindcoder> face it, the only developers left are we three plus daja77 for security, smp for sporadic patches and comments [08:23] <th> blindcoder: clifford is not "gone" - i just met him few weeks ago :) [08:24] <blindcoder> th: okay, he's gone from this project currently [08:24] <blindcoder> th: as to how long or why, it doesn't matter. I feel like having to go through submaster to wait for a patch to be applied is slowing down development tremendously [09:15] <daja77> applying all the broken patches without testing is slowing down the thing as well [09:18] <blindcoder> daja77: th and I have worked something out in the privacy of a query. expect something to pop up on the mailinglist during the day [09:18] <daja77> ok [09:18] <daja77> have to go now [11:18] ringo (n=info@86.86.104.225) joined #rocklinux. [11:34] ringo (n=info@86.86.104.225) left irc: [11:36] kensai (n=kensai@206.248.87.139) joined #rocklinux. [12:09] kensai (n=kensai@206.248.87.139) left irc: "Leaving" [13:04] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: pong [13:05] <stf^rock1inux> just read the backlog... [13:06] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: the proposal you made was on my mind for some time, so I happen to agree [13:23] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [13:30] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that's great to hear :) [13:34] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: of course CORE patches should still be thoroughly tested before applying them [13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: every patch should be thoroughly tested before applying them to TRUNK [13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: but having to wait for every tiny patch to be applied slows down development [13:34] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: just look at /etc/net [13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that'll be an even greater problem with the new installer [13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: where I wil have to dump stuff all over package/*/* [13:35] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: that's why th and I propose the usage of branches and svn merge [13:35] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: I thought we agreed on not to do test builds for non-CORE patches? [13:36] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: oh, non-CORE stuff. sorry, my bad [13:36] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: yes, ofcourse [13:36] <daja77> re [13:37] netrunner (n=andreas@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [13:37] <blindcoder> wb daja77 [13:41] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: we will nonetheless be happy for a comment on the mailinglist :) [13:43] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: I'm fine with trying alternatives to submaster. after all switching between them is easy. [13:43] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: will do, but since I'm afk for the weekend, this could take until monday. [13:44] <owl> moin [13:46] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: looking forward to it ;0 [13:46] <blindcoder> :) [13:56] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: we could redfine _exit in the fl_wrapper.c to get rid of the error messag [14:11] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: can you send a patch for that? [14:11] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: I'll look into it [14:12] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: honestly I don't know how you mean ;) thx [15:15] daja77 (n=daja77@85-124-206-39.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) left irc: "moving :)" [15:16] daja77 (i=daja@p5491F4CD.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:03] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.223.178) joined #rocklinux. [18:12] ija (n=ija@84.19.222.104) left irc: Nick collision from services. [18:12] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [20:36] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [20:37] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [20:58] kensai (n=kensai@206.248.87.139) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Sat Oct 14 2006