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[06:55] <blindcoder> moin
[08:41] <stf^rock1inux> moin moin
[08:44] <blindcoder> stf^rock1inux: do you have time to test the latest applyme journal build?
[08:46] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: my build is not finished yet, I'm resolving gnome build-time dependencies atm.
[08:50] <blindcoder> ah, okay
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[12:58] <owl> moin
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[22:58] <GiGaHuRtZ> Hi, I wanted to use ROCK so I can build a distro (Been through LFS and all of that jazz) and I was wondering if I can install it using Arch as a host system, and if there is some better documentation than what is available on the site
[22:59] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, I have personaly tried arch for opensde wich is a fork of one rock fork :D and hasn't worked since arch misses some package which is essential for building
[22:59] <GiGaHuRtZ> interesting
[22:59] <GiGaHuRtZ> ok
[22:59] <kensai> I would recommend debian for a build host
[23:00] <GiGaHuRtZ> well how about where I should be getting documentation?
[23:00] <kensai> install build-essential and libncurses5-dev and you are ready top start the build
[23:00] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, about what you need doc?
[23:00] <GiGaHuRtZ> ya I will probably just go from crystal
[23:01] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, well if you have luck ;)
[23:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> kensai, as instructions, on where to start :)
[23:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> why crystal isnt good either? heh
[23:01] <kensai> on the rock linux wiki
[23:01] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, nah, crystal is the best
[23:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> it doesnt seem to that great of documentation, http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Manual
[23:01] <kensai> just that for some people it might not work correctly, but for me it worked
[23:02] <GiGaHuRtZ> I suppose just go by this? http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Installation_using_CD
[23:02] <kensai> http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Building <--- here
[23:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> ah just what i was looking for
[23:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> any chance you know what arch was missing?
[23:03] <kensai> http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Creating_Targets <--- this better
[23:04] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, it failed installing udev at stage one because some package in arch missed install
[23:04] <kensai> "install" as a package
[23:05] <daja77> have you retried?
[23:06] <kensai> GiGaHuRtZ, try in arch tohough
[23:06] <GiGaHuRtZ> im going to :)
[23:06] <kensai> since rock linux is very different to the forks now
[23:06] <kensai> Rock Linux, is Rock solid stable :D
[23:07] <daja77> fork_s_?
[23:08] <daja77> i only know one
[23:08] <kensai> t2
[23:08] <kensai> and then opensde
[23:08] <kensai> which forked t2
[23:08] <kensai> I use opensde
[23:09] <daja77> there is a t2 fork? by whom?
[23:09] Action: mnemoc steps back slowly
[23:09] <kensai> hehe I wasn't going to tell mnemoc 
[23:09] Action: kensai hides
[23:10] <kensai> I wopn't look at him
[23:10] <daja77> lol
[23:10] Action: kensai points eyes at mnemoc 
[23:10] <daja77> hi mnemoc 
[23:10] <mnemoc> hi daja77 
[23:10] <daja77> tell me more
[23:10] <th> interesting ;)
[23:11] <kensai> mnemoc, don't hit me for doing that :D
[23:11] <mnemoc> i don't hit people :)
[23:11] <kensai> nice
[23:11] Action: kensai unhides
[23:11] <daja77> ic oudl do it for you?
[23:12] <mnemoc> daja77: :D
[23:12] Action: kensai hides again
[23:12] <mnemoc> nah
[23:12] Action: kensai unhides once more :D
[23:13] <mnemoc> <daja77> tell me more <--- who is the target of this request?
[23:13] <daja77> you
[23:13] <kensai> a 16 years old girl from mississipi
[23:13] <kensai> mnemoc, doh
[23:14] <th> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSDE
[23:14] <mnemoc> O_O
[23:14] <kensai> 0_0
[23:14] <mnemoc> .oO( who wrote that?? )o
[23:15] <kensai> all the evil plans are there distroy that
[23:15] <kensai> destroy*
[23:16] <daja77> hehe
[23:16] <kensai> lol the wiki is popor on details
[23:16] <kensai> it make mnemoc and morfoh being seen as sissy people who just had differences with t2 leader and forked
[23:17] <daja77> what a surprise ...
[23:17] <kensai> OpenSDE [5] was forked by two people with personal differences collaborating with the other T2 developers. <-- this is so bad
[23:17] <mnemoc> it was highly modified reciently.... by an anonymous... uhm
[23:17] <daja77> were you kicked out? 
[23:18] <kensai> :D
[23:18] <mnemoc> not explicitly... i left the channel two months before the fork
[23:18] <kensai> I will fork opensde because mnemoc is a silly name
[23:19] <kensai> :D
[23:19] <daja77> guess i won't have a chance to do some real rock work for two weeks
[23:20] <mnemoc> interesting changes were made on that wiki...
[23:21] <kensai> it sucks
[23:21] <kensai> IMHO
[23:21] <kensai> sorry for being so explicit
[23:21] <kensai> still we are _so_ off topic
[23:22] <mnemoc> ack
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[23:52] <mnemoc> metal note: /part != /quit
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