[00:23] <owl> gn8
[00:24] <mnemoc> gn8 owlita
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[07:13] <blindcoder> moin
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[10:11] <owl> moin
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[13:55] <owl> hi esden 
[13:55] <esden> huhu owl ;)
[13:56] <owl> saw my new weblog? :P 
[13:57] <esden> erm ... no ... I had no time yet ;)
[13:57] <owl> hehe, ok ;) well, i just followed your suggestion (wordpress)... :P
[14:02] <blindcoder> ESDEEEEEEEEEN!
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[17:57] <blindcoder> th: ping
[19:11] <th> blindcoder: pong
[19:34] <blindcoder> th: what do you think about making current trunk -pre1?
[19:43] <th> i'd like to do some more testing for the next release.
[19:44] <th> we should finally clean up our udev. like - for every rules-file we should know why we have it.
[19:44] <blindcoder> well, it's a -pre1 release
[19:44] <blindcoder> I agree for -rcX, though
[19:44] <blindcoder> agreed on that
[19:45] <blindcoder> well, can someone do test builds at the moment?
[19:45] <blindcoder> I'd like to concentrate on the installer
[19:45] <th> i think i could start some
[19:46] <blindcoder> th: btw, you got fakes phone/icq/something number?
[19:46] <blindcoder> th: anything he actually reacts to?
[19:46] <daja77> well he won't
[19:46] <th> uh
[19:47] <blindcoder> he won't as in "he doesn't want to talk to me?"
[19:47] <blindcoder> did I kill his dog or something?
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[19:49] <daja77> no
[19:50] Topic changed on #rocklinux by blindcoder!i=blindcod@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x384243C9: Work on new installer has begun. Interested in giving a hand? Talk to blindcoder! || ROCK 3 released!
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[19:50] <daja77> it is not about you
[19:50] <blindcoder> but?
[19:50] <blindcoder> okay, so he can't/won't answer about ROCK, fine
[19:51] <blindcoder> who has access to the new server and agrees with setting up a planet collecting ROCKLinux news from the developers blogs?
[19:51] <blindcoder> so I can set it up
[19:52] <daja77> mom
[19:53] <blindcoder> this topic is so old by now that it's smelling already
[19:53] <blindcoder> and I'd really like to see www.rocklinux.net being put to actual use
[19:57] <daja77> i agree but i'd like to have that link line from the top like in the old one
[19:58] <daja77> perhaps better grouped
[19:58] <th> who is blogging about rock?
[19:58] <th> so i mean how big would the planet be?
[19:58] <blindcoder> th: I am, for example
[19:58] <blindcoder> th: daja77 also sometimes has entries about it
[19:59] <th> so 1.5 for now?
[19:59] <blindcoder> daja77: well, the link line layout is easy
[19:59] <blindcoder> daja77: currently it's the same as the old ones
[19:59] <daja77> yep
[19:59] <blindcoder> th: at least there'd be more and more current information than now
[19:59] <blindcoder> http://pallas.crash-override.net/planetrock/output/
[19:59] <blindcoder> that's with unfiltered blog entries
[20:00] <blindcoder> like I proposed in 20060720132301.GB3581@scavenger.homeip.net on 20.07.2006
[20:02] <th> blindcoder: perhaps we just dont need both sites?
[20:02] <th> blindcoder: why not link your planet at homepage?
[20:02] <blindcoder> th: --verbose
[20:03] <blindcoder> th: you mean .net and .org?
[20:04] <th> yes
[20:04] <th> sorry
[20:05] <blindcoder> th: that planet was a proof-of-concept to show how it would look like
[20:05] <th> i just dont see the reason for a 1.5 blogs planet
[20:05] <blindcoder> http://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20060720.132301.6a23a6e1.html
[20:05] <blindcoder> here's the archive of the mailinglist discussion surrounding this
[20:05] <blindcoder> it would be possible to put recent information on a _real_ rocklinux site with ease
[20:05] <daja77> the reason is that the old frontpage is just broken
[20:06] <th> ok - so we should fix the "frontpage" if we need it.
[20:06] <blindcoder> and maybe you don't but I still hope that some day we will have more devs again
[20:06] <th> yes i do
[20:11] <blindcoder> well, the old frontpage has been broken for.. .I don't know... over a year
[20:11] <blindcoder> there used to be more in the daily updates than dilbert and kernel releases
[20:11] <blindcoder> a _lot_ more
[20:11] <blindcoder> and the several times I reported it nobody cared
[20:12] <blindcoder> so I figured turning it into something more useful than dilbert updates and taking care of it myself would turn it into something people would actually look at
[20:36] <th> well - i guess you're taking me wrong. "i just dont see the reason for a 1.5 blogs planet" does not mean that i'm objecting.
[20:37] <th> i only object to harm ;)
[20:37] <th> and i see no harm
[20:41] <blindcoder> well, whatever
[20:41] <blindcoder> I suggested that 4 months ago
[20:41] <blindcoder> if you say 'no' now, well, frack it then
[20:41] <blindcoder> I'm off to bed, sorry, I'm terribly worked up about all this again
[20:41] <daja77> nobody says no
[20:41] <blindcoder> see you tomorrow
[20:41] <daja77> ok
[20:41] <th> nobody says no
[20:42] <th> i did not say no.
[20:42] <th> what i said was more "go ahead" than "no"
[20:43] <daja77> blindcoder: i'll talk to clifford next tuesday, and will ask who should do what on the server thing if he doesn't to
[20:51] <stf^rock1inux> btw. I'm doing a test build right now (featuring stf's test journal 2006-10-11 Rev. 3.3)
[20:58] <th> hmm ./scripts/Download should display the url from that it is downloading
[20:58] <th> this would make broken downloads more easy to track
[21:01] <stf^rock1inux> I'd welcome a rl.net where I could post news about ROCK development; using rl.org only for info with a long "lifetime" and rl.net for more short-lifed info is also a good idea imho.
[21:01] <th> yes - sounds good when we have enough information to publish at all
[21:02] <stf^rock1inux> th: I agree on scripts/Download. Mind to write a patch? :)
[21:04] <th> btw 2006110717424112890 is noop
[21:04] <stf^rock1inux> th: I'm rather reluctant to write anything if it's not sure wether it will ever be put online. If we don't have enough info to fill the page we can always resort to dilbert and userfriendly updates ^^
[21:05] <daja77> btw does anyone mind when I commit patches to my repo instantly?
[21:06] <stf^rock1inux> daja77: I don't, as long as they have votecheck-OK in submaster.
[21:06] <th> daja77: well - the answer should be the same answer to the question if anybody is allowed to do the same on her repo
[21:07] <th> stf^rock1inux: 2006110717424112890 and 2006110423031021973 to be discarded - they are empty
[21:07] <daja77> stf^rock1inux: well on my repo i always have votecheck ok
[21:07] <th> stf^rock1inux: why should it NOT be put online?
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[21:09] <stf^rock1inux> th: I mean I prefer being able to add it to rl.net myself, instead of having to rely on somebody else to do that for me.
[21:11] <th> ahh you're talking of contents and not of some website?
[21:12] <stf^rock1inux> th: yes, if I write some text, I'd like being able to add it to rl.net news section or the like.
[21:13] <th> understandable
[21:13] <th> does this statement include a proposal of something?
[21:15] <stf^rock1inux> not really. It's just my interpretation of how a blog-based rl.net could look like.
[21:16] <th> blindcoder: 2006102812533256260 that was not in your last journal?
[21:18] <stf^rock1inux> daja77: I wouldn't mind if you applied other patches that have votecheck ok when they have been in submaster for, let's say, a week or longer :)
[21:18] <daja77> ic
[21:19] <stf^rock1inux> since out of three people with commit access for regular patches two haven't been active in months...
[21:23] <stf^rock1inux> I also wonder who is (technically) able to grant commit access.
[21:23] <th> i am
[21:24] <stf^rock1inux> Oh, good.
[21:24] <stf^rock1inux> Because I wouldn't mind committing patches myself (following testing guidelines of course), and afaik blindcoder wouldn't either.
[21:29] <stf^rock1inux> I'd like to avoid a situation where there's noone with commit access for a longer period. I also don't like having to ask you to apply some patches that I already tested in a full build. That just doesn't feel like an efficient workflow...
[21:31] <stf^rock1inux> Not I don't like chatting with you, but it makes things more complicated than necessary imo.
[21:33] <th> last time i talked to cliff regarding the /wip/ branches he stressed his preference of a public reviewing process.
[21:39] <stf^rock1inux> th: I strongly prefer public code review, too, so I'd still use submaster, and I'd also let patches stay there for, let's say, a week before committing them, if that's wanted.
[21:40] <stf^rock1inux> btw. looks like clifford restored the mailing list archives :)
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[23:56] <owl> gn8
[23:57] <stf^rock1inux> gn8 owl
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