[07:40] <blindcoder> moin
[08:09] <netrunner> moin
[08:09] <stf^rocklinux> moin moin
[08:13] <netrunner> so where should svm come from? I remember it was always there in rock, but in my debian it is not ...
[08:13] Action: netrunner needs to try a whole bunch of security patches, and rock is way more suitable for that.
[08:15] <netrunner> ah, libsvn-mirror-perl
[08:17] <netrunner> and debian calls it svn-mirror
[08:17] <daja77> hi netrunner, what patches?
[08:19] <netrunner> various. I write my thesis about security for linux-based mobile devices.
[08:19] <netrunner> I want to try things flying around like dazuko, grsecurity, selinux, rsbac and others I will stumble across
[08:28] <daja77> oh have fun :)
[08:47] <netrunner> hm. ok, I forgot to prefix my name. but why does the patch I just sm-sent not appear in the web interface?
[08:47] <netrunner> ah it does.
[08:50] <blindcoder> re
[08:52] <netrunner> daja77: I read you have some pending work related to security?
[09:46] <daja77> indeed
[09:50] <netrunner> daja77: any details? or is it secure-secret? :)
[09:50] <daja77> well no i will have a look when I arrive at work
[09:54] <netrunner> cool. maybe I can get inspiration for my thesis from you :)
[09:56] <daja77> from updated packages? O_O
[10:11] <netrunner> daja77: ah, it's only updating packages? then ... not :)
[10:21] <netrunner> 66min to download sources for crystal.
[10:23] <netrunner> device-mapper and lvm2 fail to download
[10:25] <th> netrunner: 2006111708400419264 that's your patch. and it's empty.
[10:26] <th> netrunner: btw - your kiax is a bit outdated ;)
[10:28] <netrunner> so why is it empty??
[10:28] <netrunner> ah, maybe because I was missing fixdiff
[10:46] Action: th just applied 2 votecheck-OK patches
[10:46] <daja77> netrunner: :)
[10:47] <th> now the stf journal is pending
[10:55] <th> i feel like doing a vanilla build now.
[11:01] <th> is /kasc/ still active?
[11:02] <th> or shall i move it to public after applying 2006110821055730250 which misses an unmatched votecheck?
[11:08] <blindcoder> alive as in around sometimes, yes
[11:08] <blindcoder> but I don't think still active in development
[11:46] <th> so we move it to /public/?
[11:46] <th> (talking of openh323)
[11:47] <th>  [M] The ROCK Linux Project*
[11:48] <th> well - he can ask to have it moved back.
[11:48] <th> we dont like unmatched votechecks
[11:48] <th> i apply 2006110821055730250 and move
[11:50] <th> blindcoder: vote from you missing on 2006111318080275510
[11:50] <th> would tsa still spend votes on submaster?
[11:51] <th> we have a missing user-tsa vote
[11:51] <th> same question for user-mathieu
[11:53] <th> what's the difference of [*] and <*> in ./scripts/Config?
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[12:03] <blindcoder> th: [*] == default activated
[12:03] <blindcoder> th: <*> == User selected
[12:04] <blindcoder> th: vote cast
[12:23] <netrunner> th: most of my packages are probably outdated.
[12:35] <th> blindcoder: ahh ok. makes sense.
[12:35] <th> i'm starting to do builds again.
[12:35] <th> just fired up the build machine
[12:35] <th> downloads running
[12:35] <th> did anyone fix /dev/dsp issue?
[12:35] <th> ;-)
[12:39] <blindcoder> non-issue :)
[12:39] <th> hmm?
[12:40] <blindcoder> nm
[12:41] <th> perhaps it's fixed with the udev update
[12:48] <netrunner> compiling of the fl_wrapper.c yelds errors about nonreturning functions ... is that known?
[12:50] <blindcoder> yes
[12:50] <blindcoder> no fix is known yet, thogh
[12:50] <blindcoder> besides -Wnone
[12:51] <th> and >& /dev/null
[12:55] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: btw. these are warnings, not errors. If that were errors, fl_wrapper would not build. ^^
[13:05] <netrunner> true.
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[14:26] <th> ok - current trunk lacks downloads for device-mapper.1.02.10.tgz and LVM2.2.02.10.tgz
[14:26] <th> we can either manually find the old files and inject them into our mirrors
[14:26] <th> or we update these packages
[14:26] <th> damn - i'm the dm maintainer
[14:28] <th> same for lvm2
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[14:29] <th> updating to LVM2.2.02.14 and device-mapper.1.02.12 as hotfix
[14:31] <th> vanilla build for r8065 started.
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[15:05] <netrunner> th: I have those updates in my queue :)
[15:09] <th> netrunner: they are already committed now. it's been a hotfix. vanilla build is running
[15:10] <netrunner> ok :)
[15:11] Action: netrunner is frightened by this new fast development model :)
[15:16] Action: daja77 thanks smp for the gnupg update
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[16:37] Action: netrunner has just found kvm.sf.net and was happy 
[16:37] <netrunner> ...
[16:37] <netrunner> then he found out that his thinkpad x60s has vt disabled in bios :(
[18:21] <netrunner> /space/a/src/rocklinux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 140: 27332 Segmentation fault      ./scripts/Check-System
[18:34] <th> subversion is missing the deps source ball
[18:34] <th> IMO
[18:34] <th> else we always need apache
[18:34] <th> !> configure: error: no suitable apr found
[18:34] <th> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-subversion.out -> 5-subversion.err
[18:34] <th> == 11/17/06 17:54:50 =[5]=> Aborted building package subversion.
[18:34] <netrunner> oh, I am building on the wrong server ;)
[18:34] <th> hmm we dont have a subversion maintainer
[18:34] <daja77> they are both core, no?
[18:34] <daja77> it was rene's package
[18:35] <th> i somehow dont like to have apache be a dependency for subversion
[18:35] <th> i have it in bbs to have the client
[18:35] <th> i dont want apache in bbs
[18:35] <th> i think deps does not hurt
[18:35] <daja77> th: you can use an apr package instead
[18:35] <blindcoder> that's what the apache:apr split is for
[18:35] <daja77> at least i hope it is recent enough
[18:36] <th> so we always have to build apache for a simple bbs?
[18:36] <th> just to get the apache:apr?
[18:37] <blindcoder> it's not like apache is that much a burden
[18:38] <th> is it possible to add apache:apr to a pkgsel?
[18:38] <blindcoder> no
[18:38] <th> that was my guess
[18:38] <th> hmm
[18:39] <th> i was already somewhat reluctant to add subversion. but it was good to have a subversion client in bbs.
[18:39] <th> but i really dont want apache webserver in there
[18:39] <th> (and it is only a pkgsel)
[18:40] <blindcoder> then just don't install apache, apache:doc and :dev
[18:40] <blindcoder> but only :apr
[18:41] <th> i'm not the one installing. i'm the one creating the pkgsel. then other folks come and use the pkgsel.
[18:41] <netrunner> can anyone tell me why scripts/Build-Target would segfault during creating tools.cross/lib/pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf?
[18:41] <th> netrunner: because your ram is broken?
[18:42] <blindcoder> th: well, create a package that only builds the APR
[18:42] <blindcoder> or go crying at the apache foundation
[18:43] <th> the complete subversion source is such a package. at least it builds apr without apache
[18:43] <th> we can do something like "pkginstalled neon && var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-neon=$root/usr""
[18:43] <th> as we do for neon
[18:43] <netrunner> th: only possibility?
[18:43] <netrunner> th: would be bad on my server ;)
[18:44] <th> which is useless by now, cause we dont extract it in subversion
[18:44] <th> netrunner: perhaps gremlins..
[18:44] Action: netrunner pulls out the guitar and signs a song to frighten the gremlins
[18:45] Action: blindcoder runs away, frightened
[18:46] <blindcoder> If in panic or in doubt
[18:46] <blindcoder> run in circles, scream, and shout.
[18:49] <th> which reason holds us from extracting subversion-deps as subversion authors intended?
[18:49] <blindcoder> someone doing it
[18:49] <th> ok. will do.
[18:52] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: try adding a line 'set -x' to your scripts/Build-Target to find out what's segfaulting
[18:53] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: note this causes lots of output...
[18:55] <th> does "pkginstalled" work on "apache:apr"?
[18:56] <blindcoder> yes
[19:02] <th> is "pkginstalled" a pkginstalled or a "is planned to be build regarding config"?
[19:02] <blindcoder> former IIRC
[19:02] <blindcoder> anyway, kendo awaits me now
[19:02] <blindcoder> bye
[19:03] <stf^rocklinux> pkginstalled means "enabled in config/*/packages"
[19:03] <stf^rocklinux> cu blindy
[19:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: err, no. pkginstalled means "pkg is installed (/var/adm/flists/ exists)"
[19:04] <stf^rocklinux> I confused it with pkgcheck...
[19:05] <th> ahh my problem is that the 2nd source is not extracted automatically
[19:10] <th> should i add a preconf to extract the other tar?
[19:10] <netrunner> http://andreas.anvame.net/content/download/segfault.txt
[19:10] <netrunner> maybe someone has an idea, I only see the line it complains is the call to check-system which already returned with exit 0
[19:17] <netrunner> somehow, when I execute the commands manually, the segfault seems to happen after the ln -vs command that links the archive to the archdir
[19:52] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: that is in Build-Pkg, line 797... I'd selectively disable pieces of code until I find the offending lines. I see no way to fix this until we know where exactly the problem is
[19:55] <stf^rocklinux> or see if an older svn repository revision works, maybe your bash/environment is subtly broken.
[19:58] <netrunner> is it supposed to work with bash 3?
[20:00] <stf^rocklinux> worked here with bash 3.0 some time ago, however I recall having strange errors in package builds with bash 3.1 as default bash.
[20:01] <stf^rocklinux> I didn't look closer at it so I don't know more, but I submitted a patch for bash some weeks ago:
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> # From http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/bash.html:
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> # This option turns off the use of Bash's memory allocation (malloc) function
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> # which is known to cause segmentation faults. By turning this option off,
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> # Bash will use the malloc functions from Glibc which are more stable.
[20:02] <stf^rocklinux> var_append confopt " " "--without-bash-malloc"
[20:03] <stf^rocklinux> Before, bash malloc was enabled which might explain the errors I got with bash 3.1; I haven't tested that, though.
[20:18] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: btw. I haven't had such problems with bash 2.05; you might try that first.
[20:20] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: seems to me I should use some rock as build system ;)
[20:21] <netrunner> let's hope the virtualisation works on my home pc at least
[21:36] <netrunner> can't create lock file /etc/mtab~12495: Read-only file system....
[21:36] <netrunner> (at the end of the crystal instal when rebooting)
[21:36] <netrunner> followed by a kernel panic "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[21:42] <stf^rocklinux> indeed, umount tries to write to /etc/mtab when the root fs is already read-only.
[21:43] <stf^rocklinux> Don't know why the kernel panics, here it doesn't...
[21:45] <stf^rocklinux> the problem with etc/mtab is harmless and will be get fixed after the system.init patch in Submaster is applied.
[21:49] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: it is in a qemu with vt support maybe that's something about it
[21:50] <stf^rocklinux> vt?
[21:50] <netrunner> vanderpool technology. hardware virtualization as in new dual core cpus
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