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[01:24] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/rock-dist/r8094-plus_some_few.iso
[01:24] <th> this includes kde-doc fix, binutils update, subversion-static removal, proposal for lo-setup(system.init) check-removal
[01:24] <th> and it is 1GB in size
[01:24] <th> and includes all :doc packages
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[06:22] <stf^rocklinux> I'm just testing my latest bootdisk build with qemu, and the udev warnings about unknown groups appear only if I let the timer at the boot prompt run out, which starts the default boot option, but not if I select the same boot option by pressing enter...
[06:27] <stf^rocklinux> hm, the auto-boot option and the ROCK option differ by the autoboot=1 kernel parameter...
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[07:36] <blindcoder> moin
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[12:23] <owl> moin
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[14:47] <netrunner> anyone needs a lift muc->b?
[14:47] <netrunner> (now)
[15:35] <daja77> hm no
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[16:49] <ripclaw> ehlo wrld
[16:51] <ripclaw> moin moin folks - whats recommended libc/linux/gcc/libtools for building -CURRENT ?
[17:17] <stf^rocklinux> hi ripclaw
[17:18] <ripclaw> hi stf
[17:19] <ripclaw> just managed to get my rocklinux-1.5.14 sparc to boot again
[17:19] <ripclaw> what minimums do i have to compile rock on intel ? (base-rock)
[17:19] <stf^rocklinux> the default is currently libc-2.3.6/gcc-4.0.3/linux-2.6.17.7/bash2.05b but libc-2.5/gcc-4.1.1/bash3.1 works quite well too
[17:20] <ripclaw> is that the current default or minimum ?
[17:21] <ripclaw> i currently need to decide wether its easier to build on ubuntu 6.06 lts or rock 1.5.14
[17:21] <ripclaw> (2.4.17 kernel i think)
[17:21] <stf^rocklinux> hm? you can use older glibc and gcc versions too, but they are not well-tested.
[17:22] <ripclaw> ok. i`ll try that out. any idea which mirrors are currently reliable ?
[17:22] <stf^rocklinux> with 2.4 kernels, you cannot build a glibc with NPTL support, so if you'd like to switch to linux26 anyways, you should do so before starting a build.
[17:22] <ripclaw> a lot of them where stale last time i tried and there where not many packages but -CURRENT on it - at least no release stuff etc.
[17:22] <ripclaw> NPTL ?
[17:23] <ripclaw> i care for sparc/sparc64
[17:23] <ripclaw> if the kernel supports it, thats ok with me
[17:23] <stf^rocklinux> dunno about the mirrors, if any of them fails, I use scripts/Download -mirror none
[17:24] <stf^rocklinux> NPTL=Native Posix Threads for Linux, iirc, the better (and newer) linuxthreads.
[17:24] <ripclaw> last time i tried building current kernels i had a lot of problems on sparc.
[17:24] <ripclaw> so it may also read nasty posixly threats for linux :)
[17:25] <ripclaw>  think i`ll have a look at ubuntu, 1.5.14 seems to be not very reliable - jsut fluked out of compile attempt
[17:25] <stf^rocklinux> with glibc23, you can either use linuxthreads or NPTL, but building the NPTL variant requires a running linux26 kernel.
[17:25] <stf^rocklinux> later glibcs are NPTL only.
[17:26] <ripclaw> ok - is it 64bit and endian safe already ? i don`t want to debug glibc code again - last time i spent 2 years on searchin fscking bugs in there before we had sparc up ina shaky and instable way - then came a new libc and everythin worked
[17:27] <ripclaw> libc=nasty
[17:28] <stf^rocklinux> hm, the NPTL code is in there since glibc 2.3.6, afaik. Current glibc is 2.5, so you could expect to code to be somewhat well tested ;)
[17:28] <ripclaw> ...on intel  ;-)
[17:28] <ripclaw> sorry, x86-32 that is :)
[17:28] <stf^rocklinux> hehe... but if you want to be on the safe side, just enable linuxthreads in scripts/Config (glibc submenu)
[17:29] <ripclaw> i think i`ll look at what ubuntu does in there.
[17:29] <ripclaw> if that worked, it gotta work in rock, too :)
[17:35] <ripclaw> <just sorting through my "empty" disks>
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