[04:45] SNy (i=4baf0876@bmx-chemnitz.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:52] SNy (i=a34d743d@bmx-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [04:52] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1241P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [05:02] SNy (i=a34d743d@bmx-chemnitz.de) left irc: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) [05:02] SNy (i=d0c02a18@bmx-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [05:06] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1203P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [05:14] SNy (i=d0c02a18@bmx-chemnitz.de) left irc: Remote closed the connection [05:14] SNy (i=1f5c8e69@bmx-chemnitz.de) joined #rocklinux. [09:27] esden (n=esden@ppp-82-135-9-13.dynamic.mnet-online.de) left irc: [11:05] esden (n=esden@p57AED015.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #rocklinux. [12:47] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-061-112-143.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [12:52] stf^rocklinux (n=user@80.121.8.24) joined #rocklinux. [13:00] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-096-010.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [13:00] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [13:06] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1241P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:48] beetle (n=b33tl3@dslb-082-083-047-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [14:48] beetle (n=b33tl3@dslc-082-082-169-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [16:28] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [16:30] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:22] esden (n=esden@p57AED015.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: [17:58] blindcod1r (n=blindcod@dslb-088-073-107-087.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [17:58] blindcoder (n=blindcod@dslb-088-074-013-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Nick collision from services. [17:58] Nick change: blindcod1r -> blindcoder [20:57] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1334P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [21:03] Pilot (i=pilot@moscow.etcnet.org) joined #rocklinux. [21:04] <Pilot> "Since loopback networking is desirable regardless of network being set up, this should stay in system.init" [21:04] <Pilot> blindcoder: /etc/net ships with lo configured for startup with 127.0.0.1/8 [21:04] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [21:04] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [21:12] stf^rocklinux (n=user@80.121.8.24) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [21:15] <blindcoder> Pilot: yeah, but only if network is started [21:15] <blindcoder> Pilot: you might need loopback configured regardless of networking [21:15] <Pilot> i thought it's configured to be started by default [21:16] <Pilot> loopback is part of networking [21:16] <blindcoder> well, I'm not sure about this [21:16] <blindcoder> it's started yb default [21:16] <blindcoder> but with my laptop I usually boot into runlevel 2 or 4 (both without network here) [21:16] <blindcoder> but I still need loopback for testing apache stuff [21:17] <Pilot> it's not "without network" [21:17] <blindcoder> runlevel 2 is [21:17] <Pilot> err [21:18] <Pilot> level 2 is a bad choice, if you need nettworking [21:18] <blindcoder> I don't [21:18] <blindcoder> but I need loopback [21:28] <Pilot> :-D [21:28] <Pilot> loopback has absolutely no difference from other interfaces [21:28] <Pilot> IP address 127.0.0.1 is in no way special [21:29] <blindcoder> no it isn't [21:29] <Pilot> if you have one interface, you have networking [21:29] <blindcoder> but if you are on a train and want to get some webdesign done, you need loopback [21:29] <daja77> and for other things too [21:29] <blindcoder> and you don't want to wait 20 seconds for dhclient to time out [21:29] <blindcoder> on the wireless device [21:29] <Pilot> ever seen LINKDETECT feature? [21:30] <blindcoder> no? [21:30] <Pilot> you can avoid running dhclient, if you don't have link up [21:31] <Pilot> this works for wireless too [21:31] <Demian> hi [21:31] <blindcoder> moin Demian [21:31] <blindcoder> Pilot: is there a complete documentation of the features available somewhere? [21:32] <Pilot> man etcnet-options :) [21:32] <Demian> what do you think about my linux virtualization articl? [21:32] <Demian> http://jvargas.alkaidconsulting.com/blog/?p=30 [21:34] <blindcoder> Pilot: thanks, gotta read that in a silent hour :) [21:35] <blindcoder> anyway, sleep $(( 8*60*60 )) [21:35] <blindcoder> see you [21:36] <Demian> sleep fine. [21:56] Pilot (i=pilot@moscow.etcnet.org) left irc: "left" [22:29] ija_ (n=ija@84.19.217.34) joined #rocklinux. [22:41] ija (n=ija@84.19.223.166) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [23:20] beetle (n=b33tl3@dslc-082-082-169-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [23:24] beetle (n=b33tl3@dslc-082-082-169-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [00:00] --- Fri Feb 16 2007