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[21:04] <Pilot> "Since loopback networking is desirable regardless of network being set up, this should stay in system.init"
[21:04] <Pilot> blindcoder: /etc/net ships with lo configured for startup with 127.0.0.1/8
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[21:15] <blindcoder> Pilot: yeah, but only if network is started
[21:15] <blindcoder> Pilot: you might need loopback configured regardless of networking
[21:15] <Pilot> i thought it's configured to be started by default
[21:16] <Pilot> loopback is part of networking
[21:16] <blindcoder> well, I'm not sure about this
[21:16] <blindcoder> it's started yb default
[21:16] <blindcoder> but with my laptop I usually boot into runlevel 2 or 4 (both without network here)
[21:16] <blindcoder> but I still need loopback for testing apache stuff
[21:17] <Pilot> it's not "without network"
[21:17] <blindcoder> runlevel 2 is
[21:17] <Pilot> err
[21:18] <Pilot> level 2 is a bad choice, if you need nettworking
[21:18] <blindcoder> I don't
[21:18] <blindcoder> but I need loopback
[21:28] <Pilot> :-D
[21:28] <Pilot> loopback has absolutely no difference from other interfaces
[21:28] <Pilot> IP address 127.0.0.1 is in no way special
[21:29] <blindcoder> no it isn't
[21:29] <Pilot> if you have one interface, you have networking
[21:29] <blindcoder> but if you are on a train and want to get some webdesign done, you need loopback
[21:29] <daja77> and for other things too
[21:29] <blindcoder> and you don't want to wait 20 seconds for dhclient to time out
[21:29] <blindcoder> on the wireless device
[21:29] <Pilot> ever seen LINKDETECT feature?
[21:30] <blindcoder> no?
[21:30] <Pilot> you can avoid running dhclient, if you don't have link up
[21:31] <Pilot> this works for wireless too
[21:31] <Demian> hi
[21:31] <blindcoder> moin Demian 
[21:31] <blindcoder> Pilot: is there a complete documentation of the features available somewhere?
[21:32] <Pilot> man etcnet-options :)
[21:32] <Demian> what do you think about my linux virtualization articl?
[21:32] <Demian> http://jvargas.alkaidconsulting.com/blog/?p=30
[21:34] <blindcoder> Pilot: thanks, gotta read that in a silent hour :)
[21:35] <blindcoder> anyway, sleep $(( 8*60*60 ))
[21:35] <blindcoder> see you
[21:36] <Demian> sleep fine.
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