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[01:15] elon (n=elon@host8.zwelf.net) left irc: "fupp" [02:27] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [02:28] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [03:05] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1317P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [03:17] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1073P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [03:21] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [03:21] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:18] kasc_ (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-114-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. [04:28] kasc (n=kasc@dslb-084-060-110-020.pools.arcor-ip.net) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [04:28] Nick change: kasc_ -> kasc [06:36] <blindcoder> moin [08:01] ija_ (n=ija@i59F752ED.versanet.de) joined #rocklinux. [08:18] ija (n=ija@i59F7240F.versanet.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [09:42] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:42] esden (n=esden@141.60.168.3) left irc: [09:43] <Artumi> excuse me, is it possible to find a working link for rocklinux, perhaps crystal rock, for ppc?.. [09:43] <Artumi> or the kit neccesary to build rocklinux, from a ppc machine? [09:48] <Artumi> "is everyone afk" ? [09:49] <Artumi> ok thanks ill check back later.. going to try to find the lsf channel. [09:49] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [09:53] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [09:53] <Artumi> ah they have their own irc server.. i can wait here for a response, and fire up another session to ask them [09:55] <th> Artumi: see topic [09:56] <Artumi> th the tpic says to just ask and we will help you if we can. [09:56] <Artumi> i did just ask. [09:56] <th> Artumi: no it does not. [09:56] <Artumi> th.. the topic in #rocklinux [09:56] <th> "https://www.rocklinux.org/ || https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/rock-dist/r8344.iso : r8344 - crystal - vanilla - have fun testing" [09:56] <th> that is the topic [09:57] <daja77> perhaps the welcome message [09:57] <th> yea - he was referring to the welcome message [09:57] <Artumi> ok the topic it shows me is Better than SEX: ROCK linux -- See also our homepage at https://www.rocklinux.org- If you have questions or problems with RockLinux, just ask and we will help you if we can [09:57] <Artumi> oh. ok [09:57] <Artumi> ok.. th , the topic is just that short uril w/ vanilla then? [09:57] <th> Artumi: can you see the topic now? [09:57] <Artumi> it shows me both [09:58] <Artumi> but that url doesnt seem to work for me to get a ppc friendly iso image. [09:58] <th> ahhh ppc [09:58] <th> sorry i did not read that [09:58] <Artumi> yes.. that was the question [09:58] <Artumi> the links in the rocklinux website and wiki for ppc images seem broken too :( [09:58] <th> i guess no one build ppc image for a long time [09:59] <Artumi> ok.. so i would need to download instead a build kit, for my system now, ? to make an iso? [09:59] <th> perhaps you can just grab any ppc distribution [09:59] <th> and start building rock within it [09:59] <Artumi> ok, right now i am in openbsd for ppc. [09:59] <Artumi> is there ppc compatible rock linux build kit links somewhere? [10:00] <Artumi> or do i just have to download source and use the systems own linkers and compilers? [10:00] <th> no - we dont have such a list [10:00] <Artumi> and is the ppc sources up to date, ? [10:00] <th> i dont know how good it currently works on ppc. but it is svn trunk [10:00] <Artumi> ok.. [10:01] <Artumi> i guess i can go install subversion then [10:02] <th> thats a good start [10:02] <Artumi> th then the next thing is, as long as i am having to compile it all anyways... is it not better to just compile for the build target? [10:02] <Artumi> instead of for the system doing the build? [10:02] <th> but i dont know anything about building rock on openbsd [10:02] <th> i'm curious though [10:03] <th> so that is a different machine for you? [10:04] <Artumi> yes the final goal is to put linux onto my powerbook 1400c. [10:04] <Artumi> i was thinking to use the crystal rock linux as a build system for that target. [10:04] <Artumi> but if i would have to first compile crystal, maybe is easier to build from osx or openbsd. [10:04] <Artumi> not to mention less processor cycles. [10:05] <Artumi> subversion is requiring pythonwhich is requiring db.. -- groan. [10:05] <th> stupid distribution then [10:05] <Artumi> ok this might be a few minutes th.. do you know the svn command one might use to grab these source trunks, ? [10:05] <Artumi> or should i go afw and read the man [10:05] <Artumi> once it installs. [10:05] <Artumi> :) [10:06] <th> svn checkout svn://www.rocklinux.net/rock-linux/trunk [10:06] <Artumi> alright.. so it's a lot like cvs then? [10:06] <th> yes [10:06] <th> like a drop in replacement [10:06] <Artumi> so could i have just used cvs? [10:06] <th> no [10:07] <th> but i somehow doubt that you can build rock on these non-linux systems... [10:07] <Artumi> k.. well ill wait for tcl then start that download [10:07] <th> but let's see where it stops [10:07] <Artumi> ok. [10:07] <Artumi> it seems i need tcl for python for db for subversion-- groan [10:07] <Artumi> th do you know the english childrens rhyme ' the house that jack built' ? [10:08] <th> that's just stupidity of your openbsd then. sorry NOI [10:08] <th> nope i dont [10:08] <Artumi> grin. [10:08] <Artumi> if you read it some time, it seems prophetic in terms of computer dependency checking [10:08] <Artumi> :) [10:10] <Artumi> noooo. [10:10] <Artumi> i cant install subversion because openbsd's ports /usr/ports/devel/libtool fails to build because of invalid objects :-s.. thereby failing db.. failing python... failing subversion [10:10] <Artumi> can i just download the trunk from somewhere? [10:12] <th> you can just use svn anywhere else [10:12] <th> some other linux box [10:12] <Artumi> i have 1 boxen and 1 lappie. [10:13] <Artumi> the lappie does not have linux, the boxen has obsd and osx.. [10:13] <Artumi> :-/ oh well. [10:13] <Artumi> wish there was a tarball i could download instead. [10:14] <th> leme create one for you [10:14] <th> let me [10:15] <th> https://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/trunk-8345.tgz [10:15] <Artumi> doh [10:16] <Artumi> ok .. let me go install gzip [10:16] <Artumi> growl .. and wget. [10:16] <Artumi> hang on a second [10:16] <th> you're kidding me? [10:16] <th> ;-) [10:16] <Artumi> im not. [10:16] <th> i'm gone for a while [10:17] <Artumi> k. [10:17] <Artumi> argh. [10:17] <Artumi> i hate my operating system bbiab.. gotta find an alternate for wget since it wants libtool [10:19] <Artumi> lynx.. works.. [10:23] <Artumi> reading man tar :/ [10:25] <Artumi> ok im too tired to do this, i cant even find the part of obsds man tar that explains how to get it to extract locally instead of to rst0, so i'll try back in the morning [10:28] <Artumi> should be in -C somewhere.. .. coffee.. [10:29] <Artumi> ah rofl.. i was doing -x instead of x :/.. i am exhausted [10:29] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [10:42] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [10:43] <Artumi> th ok.. it stopped at the first step in the documentation of CROSS-BUILD , sh ./Build-Target ./Build-Target[87: .: scripts/parse-config: not found so im gonna read through all the files and give it a shot on saturday, thanks for your help/ cya [10:43] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [11:10] stf^rocklinux (n=user@M1040P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [11:17] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) joined #rocklinux. [11:18] <Artumi> th ah there we go.. a bit of fiddling and attempting scripts.. and it seems the reason it wont build from my openbsd-macppc --stable system, is that i do not have a /proc/swaps , nor a /dev/fd symlink to a /proc/self/fd and a mounted/proc , nor the bash shell.. nor sed that can handle the -i option :).. [11:20] <Artumi> and from what i understand of bsd... that /proc part is gonna be the biggest hurdle. [11:24] stf^rock1inux (n=user@M1317P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [11:32] <Artumi> so you think 466 mhz g3 , 40 gb hd and 290 mb ram is not capable? [11:32] <Artumi> wait mistell [11:32] <Artumi> i was using /msg and forgot it that time :) [11:32] <Artumi> talk to you guys later [11:32] Artumi (n=root@75-167-30-86.phnx.qwest.net) left #rocklinux. [12:19] ubijtsa (n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk) left irc: Remote closed the connection [15:35] <owl> moin [17:32] beetle (n=b33tl3@p54A060DA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #rocklinux. [18:06] Nick change: ija_ -> ija [18:51] _BoS__ (n=bodo@dslb-088-072-045-245.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #rocklinux. 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