[00:01] <carsonc> Oh, I see
[00:01] <carsonc> So Crystal is the generic ROCK plus packages?
[00:02] <th> well, not quite
[00:02] <th> in fact i think generic has more packages
[00:02] <th> crystal is a "supported subset"
[00:03] <carsonc> Ah, okay, that makes sense
[00:03] <th> still - that support is not overwhelming.
[00:03] <th> we are a pretty small community
[00:03] <th> with lack of manpower
[00:08] <carsonc> sure
[00:08] <carsonc> this is for my "play" computer anyway :)
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[06:50] <blindcoder> moin
[08:17] Nick change: Ragnarin -> Ragnar|away
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[12:56] <th> can i make a bash function available in a shellscript-subshell?
[12:57] <th> ahhh
[12:57] <th> export -f
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[17:29] <stf^rocklinux> moin
[17:50] <blindcoder> moin moin
[17:50] Action: blindcoder assembling his new gaming machine ^^
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[19:17] <blindcoder> yay
[19:17] <blindcoder> r8344 doesn't recognise my cdrom
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[19:23] <th> oh that's the subjects revision
[19:24] <blindcoder> yeah
[19:24] <th> what a cdrom is that?
[19:24] <blindcoder> IDE
[19:24] <th> kernel issue?
[19:24] <th> or udev issue?
[19:24] <blindcoder> interesting enough, it does detect my sata disk
[19:24] <blindcoder> kernel it seems
[19:24] <blindcoder> or at least, I guess
[19:24] <blindcoder> it did boot
[19:24] <blindcoder> and then can't find the cdrom
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[19:31] <blindcoder> guess I gotta do what I always do
[19:31] <blindcoder> install by network :0
[19:37] <blindcoder> luckily I just got myself a g wlancard for my laptop (which is now installserver)
[20:16] <blindcoder> th: btw
[20:16] <blindcoder> th: all wireless lan modules are disabled in our default kernel config
[20:16] <blindcoder> why is that?
[20:17] <blindcoder> also, we should really disable OSS completely
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[20:46] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: the default kernel config comes with the linux sources
[20:46] <stf^rock1inux> if you know what machine you are building for, it's usually better to use a custom config
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[20:49] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: regarding the wlan modules, I think the default kernel config does not enable CONFG_WLAN_80211, thus the automation cannot enable the wlan modules
[20:50] <stf^rock1inux> CONFIG_WLAN_80211 means the 'Wireless LAN (IEEE 802.11)' yes/no question in 'make menuconfig'
[20:51] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: adding CONFIG_WLAN_80211=y to architecture/x86/kernel.conf.sh would probably help
[20:56] <th> or just feed another kernel to your bootloader
[20:58] <stf^rock1inux> btw. I'm currently working on a rewrite of the toolchain packages to be more LFS/CLFS-like
[20:59] <stf^rock1inux> x86_64 cross-builds with multilib support seem to basically work already :)
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[21:02] <stf^rock1inux> I'll probably send some experimental patches for it in the next few days
[21:03] <blindcoder> anyway, found the cdrom problem
[21:03] <blindcoder> I ripped the cd out of another system and didn't check the master/slave setting :(
[21:04] <stf^rock1inux> classic
[21:06] <blindcoder> hehe
[21:06] <blindcoder> needed to compile a new kernel anyway
[21:06] <blindcoder> my 802.11g usb stick won't work with kernel < 2.6.22
[21:06] <blindcoder> well, it will
[21:06] <blindcoder> but I experienced really bad instability on my laptop with it
[21:07] <blindcoder> also, throwing out OSS to get sound working (as usual)
[21:14] <stf^rock1inux> blindcoder: there used to be a file in target/crystal specifically for disabling OSS
[21:18] <stf^rock1inux> at least I think so...
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