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[12:06] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@pallas.crash-override.net) left irc: Remote closed the connection [12:06] rocklogbot (n=rocklogb@213.239.220.170) joined #rocklinux. [12:58] ija (n=ija@i59F77B05.versanet.de) joined #rocklinux. [13:11] ija_ (n=ija@i59F76E24.versanet.de) left irc: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [15:30] envirocb1 (n=rbparten@c-76-109-213-197.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) got netsplit. [15:30] mnemoc (n=amery@kilo105.server4you.de) got netsplit. [15:31] envirocb1 (n=rbparten@c-76-109-213-197.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) returned to #rocklinux. [15:31] mnemoc (n=amery@kilo105.server4you.de) returned to #rocklinux. [15:35] netrunner (i=foobar@anvame.net) joined #rocklinux. [15:35] <netrunner> re [15:37] stf^rocklinux (n=k0155490@M1498P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at) joined #rocklinux. [15:37] <blindcoder> hey netrunner [15:44] <netrunner> ahua! [15:44] <netrunner> still alive that channel ;) [15:46] <daja77> blindcoder keeps the keys [15:48] <blindcoder> yeah [15:48] <blindcoder> the last one to leave is asked to turn off the lights [15:51] <stf^rocklinux> hi all [15:54] <stf^rocklinux> the new and improved patches for CLFS-style sysroot/multilib builds are available in submaster :) [15:55] <blindcoder> what is CLFS-style? [15:56] <stf^rocklinux> the build follows more closely the instructions on linuxfromscratch.org, esp. the CLFS books [15:56] <blindcoder> ah [15:56] <blindcoder> why? [15:56] <stf^rocklinux> in particular the order and the way in which toolchain packages are built has changed [15:57] <blindcoder> mmm, eye candy outside the window [15:57] <blindcoder> errm, I mean [15:57] <stf^rocklinux> first of all there were some problems with x86_64 builds that I solve this way [15:57] <blindcoder> yeah, sounds good ;) [15:57] <stf^rocklinux> s,I,I hope, [15:58] <blindcoder> mhm [15:58] <stf^rocklinux> second ROCK can now do multilib builds (i.e. mixed 32/64 bit builds) :) [15:58] <blindcoder> so we will soon get a working x86_64 build? :) [15:59] <stf^rocklinux> I can hardly do native x86_64 builds on x86... works with qemu but it's painfully slow [16:00] <stf^rocklinux> but I've already done a cross-x86_64 multilib build [16:00] <stf^rocklinux> and yes, it does build grub too (which needs 32 bit libs) [16:01] <th> blindcoder: i uploaded a working x86_64 build quite some time (few months) ago [16:02] <blindcoder> nice [16:02] <blindcoder> I don't have a 64 bit machine, unfortunately [16:03] <stf^rocklinux> my patches also make the toolchain (binutils,glibc,gcc) much simpler (but are only tested with gcc42 and glibc26 for now) [16:04] <th> every cpu you buy today (or even in the last year) should support 64bit [16:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: were did you upload your x86_64 to? [16:04] <stf^rocklinux> err, x86_64 build [16:04] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs/ [16:04] <rocklogbot> Index of /people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs: http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs/ [16:05] <th> rocklogbot: botsnack [16:05] <th> (sucker) [16:05] <blindcoder> hmm [16:05] <blindcoder> then maybe I have a 64 bit cpu after all [16:05] <th> you should bring your own bootloader [16:05] <th> grub does not build on 64bit native (yet?) [16:05] <th> and due to the prior lack of multilib env... [16:06] <th> ...i did not add a 32bit grub [16:06] <stf^rocklinux> th: does trunk need any patches for native x86_64 builds? [16:06] <th> i'm few months behind - i cant tell [16:06] <blindcoder> '64 bit support on linux. bring your own bootloader.' err... [16:06] <th> no - on rocklinux [16:06] <th> and s/your own/a 32 bit/ [16:07] <blindcoder> ah [16:07] <th> a 32bit bootdisk target should work fine [16:07] <blindcoder> too bad I probably won't be able to play my commercial linux games in a 64 bit environmnet :( [16:08] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: if you have a multilib environment, you should be able to play them [16:15] <blindcoder> sounds good [16:16] <th> true [16:24] <blindcoder> anyway, time to leave, do some sport, then cook for the girl [16:24] <blindcoder> see you tomorrow [16:25] <stf^rocklinux> cu [16:27] <netrunner> would rock be usable on bash 3 now? [16:29] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: depends on your bash, e.g. the one in ubuntu 6.10 did not work for me [16:30] <stf^rocklinux> but the bash 3 that ROCK builds is ok [16:32] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I use the one in debian [16:35] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: maybe it helps to rebuild it as described here: http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu [16:35] <stf^rocklinux> that's what worked for me [16:43] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I cannot build the bash that rock builds because rock does not build at all :) [16:43] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: or better: I cannot use the the bash that rock builds for building rock because rock does not build at all :) [16:55] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: the link above describes how to build and install bash manually, it's pretty simple [16:56] <stf^rocklinux> and it really fixed all problems with the ROCK scripts for me :) [16:56] <stf^rocklinux> I'm going to walk the dog now, bbl [17:31] esden`away (n=esden@repl.esden.net) joined #rocklinux. 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