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[06:59] <blindcoder> moin
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[15:35] <netrunner> re
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[15:37] <blindcoder> hey netrunner 
[15:44] <netrunner> ahua!
[15:44] <netrunner> still alive that channel ;)
[15:46] <daja77> blindcoder keeps the keys
[15:48] <blindcoder> yeah
[15:48] <blindcoder> the last one to leave is asked to turn off the lights
[15:51] <stf^rocklinux> hi all
[15:54] <stf^rocklinux> the new and improved patches for CLFS-style sysroot/multilib builds are available in submaster :)
[15:55] <blindcoder> what is CLFS-style?
[15:56] <stf^rocklinux> the build follows more closely the instructions on linuxfromscratch.org, esp. the CLFS books
[15:56] <blindcoder> ah
[15:56] <blindcoder> why?
[15:56] <stf^rocklinux> in particular the order and the way in which toolchain packages are built has changed
[15:57] <blindcoder> mmm, eye candy outside the window
[15:57] <blindcoder> errm, I mean
[15:57] <stf^rocklinux> first of all there were some problems with x86_64 builds that I solve this way
[15:57] <blindcoder> yeah, sounds good ;)
[15:57] <stf^rocklinux> s,I,I hope,
[15:58] <blindcoder> mhm
[15:58] <stf^rocklinux> second ROCK can now do multilib builds (i.e. mixed 32/64 bit builds) :)
[15:58] <blindcoder> so we will soon get a working x86_64 build? :)
[15:59] <stf^rocklinux> I can hardly do native x86_64 builds on x86... works with qemu but it's painfully slow
[16:00] <stf^rocklinux> but I've already done a cross-x86_64 multilib build
[16:00] <stf^rocklinux> and yes, it does build grub too (which needs 32 bit libs)
[16:01] <th> blindcoder: i uploaded a working x86_64 build quite some time (few months) ago
[16:02] <blindcoder> nice
[16:02] <blindcoder> I don't have a 64 bit machine, unfortunately
[16:03] <stf^rocklinux> my patches also make the toolchain (binutils,glibc,gcc) much simpler (but are only tested with gcc42 and glibc26 for now)
[16:04] <th> every cpu you buy today (or even in the last year) should support 64bit
[16:04] <stf^rocklinux> th: were did you upload your x86_64 to?
[16:04] <stf^rocklinux> err, x86_64 build
[16:04] <th> http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs/
[16:04] <rocklogbot> Index of /people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs: http://www.rocklinux.net/people/teha/bbs64native-pkgs/ 
[16:05] <th> rocklogbot: botsnack
[16:05] <th> (sucker)
[16:05] <blindcoder> hmm
[16:05] <blindcoder> then maybe I have a 64 bit cpu after all
[16:05] <th> you should bring your own bootloader
[16:05] <th> grub does not build on 64bit native (yet?)
[16:05] <th> and due to the prior lack of multilib env...
[16:06] <th> ...i did not add a 32bit grub
[16:06] <stf^rocklinux> th: does trunk need any patches for native x86_64 builds?
[16:06] <th> i'm few months behind - i cant tell
[16:06] <blindcoder> '64 bit support on linux. bring your own bootloader.' err...
[16:06] <th> no - on rocklinux
[16:06] <th> and s/your own/a 32 bit/
[16:07] <blindcoder> ah
[16:07] <th> a 32bit bootdisk target should work fine
[16:07] <blindcoder> too bad I probably won't be able to play my commercial linux games in a 64 bit environmnet :(
[16:08] <stf^rocklinux> blindcoder: if you have a multilib environment, you should be able to play them
[16:15] <blindcoder> sounds good
[16:16] <th> true
[16:24] <blindcoder> anyway, time to leave, do some sport, then cook for the girl
[16:24] <blindcoder> see you tomorrow
[16:25] <stf^rocklinux> cu
[16:27] <netrunner> would rock be usable on bash 3 now?
[16:29] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: depends on your bash, e.g. the one in ubuntu 6.10 did not work for me
[16:30] <stf^rocklinux> but the bash 3 that ROCK builds is ok
[16:32] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I use the one in debian
[16:35] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: maybe it helps to rebuild it as described here: http://www.rocklinux.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu
[16:35] <stf^rocklinux> that's what worked for me
[16:43] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: I cannot build the bash that rock builds because rock does not build at all :)
[16:43] <netrunner> stf^rocklinux: or better: I cannot use the the bash that rock builds for building rock because rock does not build at all :)
[16:55] <stf^rocklinux> netrunner: the link above describes how to build and install bash manually, it's pretty simple
[16:56] <stf^rocklinux> and it really fixed all problems with the ROCK scripts for me :)
[16:56] <stf^rocklinux> I'm going to walk the dog now, bbl
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