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00:02 < SMP> bleh, das kommt ja verboten lahm aus USA rueber
00:03 < rxr> tsa: Danke fuer deinen Security Hinweis ... ;-) SH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.0.2p1
00:04 < SMP> ahhh, ftp.stardiv.de ist besser
00:04 < SMP> 1,5MB/s. nett
00:06 < rxr> tsa: da gibt es ja schon 3.1p1 - ist der stable?
00:07 < SMP> der 642 installer scheint zu funktionieren
00:08 < huebi> rxr: Jo, stable
00:08 < huebi> SMP: und OO_642 auch. ;-)
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00:15 < SMP> argl
00:16 < SMP> OopenOffice.org 642 saugt auf ganz ungekannte Art
00:17 < tsa> hm...
00:17 < tsa> der build-prozess suckt IMHO gewaltig.
00:17 < tsa> das resultat ist eigentlich ok.
00:17 < tsa> der memory-footprint ist nicht wirklich besser als bei meinen staroffice 5.2 ..
00:18 < rxr> SMP: wie saugt dein neuster download ?
00:19 < SMP> BLEH!
00:19 < SMP> dieses Unglaublich BESCHEUERTE Konzept mit der pro-user Installation
00:21 < SMP> Kommerzieller Drecks-Wixx Muell (Mozilla, OpenOffice, Interbase etc.) wird nicht dadruch besser, dass man der Welt seinen Quellcode zumutet
00:22 < rxr> SMP: ack ;-)
00:22 < rxr> SMP: du hattest so einen genialen ausdruck fuer GNU Muell, wie war der doch gleich?
00:22 < SMP> Gnu Dung
00:23 < tsa> ROTFL.
00:23 < rxr> hehe danke ;-)
00:28 < SMP> drwxr-xr-x   2 stefanp  users        4096 May 16 00:15 file:
00:28 < SMP> "ja, genau"
00:29 < SMP> ja, das 642 laesst sich installieren und dann kann ich drin rumklicken
00:30 < SMP> um mal bei den Tatsachen zu bleiben
00:31 < rxr> SMP: schoen wie du sich ueber oo freust ...
00:32 < SMP> ?
00:33 < rxr> na das herrum klicken ...
00:37 < kvak|uninvited> Interbase ?
00:38 < SMP> ja.
00:38 < kvak|uninvited> Interbase von Borland ?
00:38 < SMP> ja.
00:38 < kvak|uninvited> Hehehehe
00:38 < kvak|uninvited> hohohoh
00:38 < kvak|uninvited> Entschuldigung.
00:38 < SMP> das wahrscheinlich peinlichste source release jemals.
00:38 < SMP> direkt mit zwei backdoors im source
00:38 < kvak|uninvited> Ja hab ich bei CERT gelesen.
00:39 < kvak|uninvited> Ich hab vor 6 Monaten was für Interbase geschrieben...
00:39 < SMP> 'fuer'?
00:39 < kvak|uninvited> ...so lange dürfte das aber mit dem Source her sein, oder ?
00:39 < SMP> das ist bestimmt schon 18 Monate her
00:39 < kvak|uninvited> fuer -> ich meine in PHP fuer Interbase-RDBMS
00:40 < kvak|uninvited> "fuer" ;-)
00:40 < SMP> das sind ja gleich zwei Brechmittel auf einmal
00:40 < kvak|uninvited> argh ! Der Kleine schreit deswegen bin ich etwas abwesend...
00:40 < kvak|uninvited> ...PHP-dirty coders.
00:40 < kvak|uninvited> ich weiss.
00:40 < kvak|uninvited> weis(weiss, weiß)
00:47 < rxr> n8
00:47 < kvak|uninvited> So dala...was macht open office ?
00:47 < kvak|uninvited> fertig ?
00:48 < kvak|uninvited> hat das nun nen Mailer oder nicht ?
00:50 * kvak|uninvited muss weg - Baby fuettern. Ciao zusammen und gute n8
00:51 < huebi> n8 kvak|uninvited 
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00:58 < hackbard> i ll go to bed too, n8!
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02:41 < tsa> n8
02:41 < tsa> cu tomorrow
02:41 < tsa> erh.
02:41 < tsa> today.
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07:56 < huebi> moin
08:14 < rxr> re
08:15 < huebi> moin rene ;-)
08:15 < rxr> hi huebi!
08:16 < huebi> nachhern werde ich das linux und linuxsrc script fertig machen ;-)
08:19 < huebi> last: /var/log/wtmp: No such file or directory <- braucht auch einen fix ;)
08:23 < huebi> und wech...
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09:21 < huebi> re Moep!
09:27 < rxr> WoW. Ultra5 ist gerade angekommen ;-) *g*
09:28 < huebi> rxr: Herzlichen Gluehstrumpf *g*
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09:29 < huebi> hi d3iman 
09:29 < d3iman> buenos dias andreas
09:29 -!- d3iman is now known as d3mian
09:29 < huebi> ;-)
09:32 < rxr> Und ich muss gleich zu sonet Physik Uebung - sight.
09:35 < huebi> rxr: Viel Spass
09:40 < rxr> huebi: den werde dann wohl jetzt noch weniger haben ... :-(
09:40 < huebi> rxr: Macht dir Physik nicht so viel Spass?
09:43 < rxr> nicht wenn ne Sun box zu Hause wartet ...
09:44 < huebi> ;-))
09:45 < rxr> huebi: Ripclaw wrote: "please remember that sun hardware is static sensitive."
09:45 < rxr> Moren than normal elctronic stuff ?
09:46 < huebi> rxr: That meens: Plug in the power cord before you oen it. Then it's groundet. ans switch of with the switch in it the power source.
09:46 < huebi> s/oen/open/
09:47 < huebi> rxr: No, not more. But more expensive!
09:51 < rxr> ah ok ;-)
09:51 * rxr searching for the root pwd ...
09:56 < huebi> rxr: on Solaris? it's /
10:01 < rxr> huebi: it war "roor" "" ;-)
10:02 < rxr> s/war/was/
10:02 < huebi> rxr: How did you find out?
10:03 < rxr> after soem typos (always hit the / accidently because it is at the place where I normally hit "Enter") and some other tries I simply pressed return ...
10:03 < rxr> and Woops I was in ;-)
10:04 < huebi> ahh OK
10:05 < rxr> huebi: hehe - but now I'll to some Gnome2 fix quickies - and prepare for this boring Physics practise :-(
10:05 < huebi> hehe
10:07 < rxr> huebi: really cool is that the box has more ram than Ripclaw wrote - 2x64MB instead of 2X32 MB ;-)
10:07 < huebi> Yes. Thats kool
10:08 < rxr> huebi: where do I enter the hostname, IP address and gateway in Slowlaris ?
10:08 < huebi> I removed the floppy and built in 2x256MB from an Ultra 10
10:09 < rxr> huebi: and is the 1.5.12 image you installed in your Ultra 20 online ?
10:09 < rxr> s/in/on/
10:09 < huebi> hmmm
10:10 < huebi> https://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~veninga/rock/rock-sparc64-base-1.5.12.iso
10:11 < huebi> And you need a splack or better suse 7.3 cd to boot
10:11 < rxr> huebi: tnx wget running
10:13 < rxr> but I need a 2nd HD then - the 4.x GB full after the insallation ...
10:13 < rxr> can I simply add another IDE one - or will OPB or Solars make problems ?
10:13 < huebi> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/suse/suse/sparc64/7.3/iso/suse-sparc-7.3-CD1.iso
10:14 < rxr> huebi: even more thanks - 2nd wget running ;-)
10:15 < huebi> rxr: You can _replcae_ it. 2 on the same bus did not work. But we have not fully testet how to get more disks in the sun.
10:18 < rxr> huebi: but then I'll loose slowlaris :-(
10:18 < huebi> rxr: Do you really need it?
10:22 < rxr> huebi: Another OS (ok kind off) to learn - play with ;-)
10:22 < rxr> huebi: I can install rock on the 2nd partition (I hope Ripclaw left one free ...) and can build ROCK-1.7 into a NFS mount ...
10:22 < rxr> And I can invest into a SCSI controler for SUNs later ;-)
10:23 < huebi> SYM53c875 should work
10:24 < th> a normal pci-scsi controller as it is used for intel-based machines?
10:24 < huebi> exact
10:24 < huebi> moin th
10:24 < th> cool
10:24 < rxr> huebi: ich haette hier anzubeiten:
10:24 < rxr> LSI Logic / Symbios Logic (formerly NCR) 53c810 (rev 01)
10:24 < th> moin alle
10:24 < rxr> hi th
10:25 < huebi> rxr:  53c810 with Rocklinux will work.
10:25 < rxr> and an Adaptec AICTxxx Ultra one ...
10:25 < rxr> uups AIC7xxx ...
10:25 < rxr> (hm - but I have not a single SCSI disk ... sight ...)
10:25 < huebi> don't know with solaris, but linux will work.
10:26 < rxr> huebi: isn't the SUN PCI bus 5V ? - Ok the old PC one was, too (wasn't it)?
10:26 < huebi> don't know 
10:28 < rxr> I do not want to destroy the U5 too soon ... ;-)
10:29 < rxr> But with such "SUN unsupoprted" devices it might not be possible to boot from, right?
10:29 < huebi> have alook at sunsolve.sun.de
10:29 < rxr> So I'll leave the HW untouched for now and build into NFS
10:30 < rxr> (might be even  faster than the SUN IDE crap ;-)
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10:35 < huebi> hi capchaos 
10:35 < capchaos> morgen huebi, hi alle
10:35 < huebi> rxr: You can also boot the U5 over network ;-)
10:36 < rxr> huebi: btw. How do I get into the OBP to adjust settings ?
10:43 < huebi> rxr: STOP-a
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10:44 < th> or terminal on-off
10:44 < th> ;)
10:44 < th> aehm
10:44 < th> off-on
10:44 < huebi> BREAK
10:44 < huebi> L1-A
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10:44 < huebi> ;-)
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10:49 < armijn> re
10:52 < huebi> moin armijn 
10:52 < armijn> hi
10:53 < armijn> I tested with a new kernel config
10:53 < armijn> I will bring it soon
10:53 < huebi> I did that too armijn 
10:54 < armijn> and?
10:54 < huebi> I want to change linux and modules to linux (incl. modules) and linuxsrc
10:54 < huebi> armijn: It worked.
10:54 < armijn> well...
10:55 < armijn> we should see what we exactly need...
10:55 < huebi> in the moment the package linux is screwd up ;-(
10:55 < armijn> why?
10:55 < huebi> I messed it up and went to bed yesterday.
10:55 < huebi> I undo it now ;-)
10:55 < armijn> ah
10:56 < armijn> anywayz, I got a working config for 2.4.17
10:56 < armijn> it also booted
10:56 < huebi> and I got one for 2.4.18-rc4
10:56 < armijn> but I don't know which IDE, NIC and USB things I should include :(
10:57 < huebi> I want to have it to boot with Netra X1
10:57 < armijn> and PCI...
10:57 < armijn> my Ultra has SCSI and SBus
10:57 < huebi> btw fels is online again ;-)
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10:58 < huebi> hi bluefire 
10:58 < bluefire> Moin
10:58 < d3mian> hi bluefire 
10:58 < huebi> bluefire: do you come to the "Grillfest" of the DALUG?
10:59 < huebi> Grillfest = barbeque
10:59 < armijn> no shit.
10:59 < huebi> armijn: ?
10:59 < armijn> nvrmnd
10:59 * armijn tired
10:59 < armijn> tried to boot debian on PA-RISC yesterday, but it failed
11:00 < bluefire> huebi: When is it?
11:00 < bluefire> huebi: url?
11:00 < huebi> bluefire: mom
11:02 < huebi> bluefire: may I forward the mail to you?
11:03 < bluefire> huebi: thx
11:06 < huebi> ./scripts/Puzzle
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11:10 * th is fuer mehr abwechslung beim spielen... ich will auch ein ./scripts/Mikado
11:10 < huebi> ./scripts/q3a - that's more than sufficient ;-))
11:11 < huebi> armijn: rxr will run 1.5
11:11 < praenti|away> moin
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11:11 < huebi> moin praenti
11:11 < armijn> huebi: ok
11:11 < huebi> rxr: Jan's image
11:11 < armijn> huebi: so, we have to make sure that everything is up and running by then...
11:12 < praenti> huebi: makefile.patch is updated
11:12 < armijn> urgh.
11:12 < armijn> there are so many things wrong with that image
11:12 < huebi> armijn: Therefore I'm working on the new one. for
11:13 < armijn> ok
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11:14 < holyolli> moin
11:14 < huebi> I want to have Rocklinux in the same stable version on all my computers. Just to make that clear ;-))
11:14 < huebi> holyolli: MuhH!
11:14 < huebi> hehe
11:15 < holyolli> huebi: elch!
11:15 < holyolli> ;)
11:15 < holyolli> <-- mag lieber elche als kuehe ;-)
11:15 < huebi> bbl. NEVER let a NT-Admin touch a ROCKlinux server !!!!
11:15 < huebi> und wech...
11:16 < holyolli> *lol*
11:16 < holyolli> armijm?
11:16 < armijn> hmm?
11:17 < holyolli> in which way did you implement those sparc-patches yet?
11:17 < armijn> ehr?
11:17 < holyolli> when the patch is only applicable to sparc
11:17 < armijn> waddayamena?
11:17 < armijn> oh...
11:17 < holyolli> *g*
11:17 < armijn> check out CVS :)
11:17 < holyolli> erm
11:17 < armijn> or check ./base-config/lilo/lilo.conf
11:18 < holyolli> ah
11:18 < holyolli> *g*
11:18 < rxr> ok I'm away. cu ...
11:18 < holyolli> cu rxr
11:19 < holyolli> *gnnnarrr* every browser crashes on the system...
11:19 < armijn> use telnet
11:20 < holyolli> hm. or i should use the right os...
11:22 < holyolli> *hm* in lilo.conf there only skipping of the complete package...
11:22 < armijn> holyolli: yeah, so?
11:23 < holyolli> but i mean really patches, which only apply to the specific hardware (as written in your mail)
11:23 < armijn> holyolli: I need to do that with ltrace and egcs64 anyway, so...
11:23 < armijn> aah
11:23 < armijn> in 1.7 you can name a patch "bla.patch.$ARCH"
11:23 < armijn> but that is ugly
11:23 < bluefire> huebi: Grillfests sounds good. :)
11:23 < armijn> in 1.5 there's no such mechanism yet
11:24 < holyolli> i know... there's also my problem regarding alpha... ;)
11:25 < armijn> there should be a patch filter
11:25 < armijn> clifford opposed to it once, but it's much cleaner
11:25 < holyolli> and how should this filter work?
11:26 < holyolli> (and why is this bla.patch.$ARCH ugly?)
11:26 < armijn> holyolli: what if your patch has to be applied to all architectures except one?
11:26 < armijn> imagine you've got 20 architectures
11:26 < holyolli> hm...okay ;)
11:26 < armijn> then you've got 20 - 1 pattches, all named differently, but which are the same
11:26 < armijn> the filter works a bit like this
11:27 < armijn> you got a file filterlist.$ARCH
11:27 < armijn> in that list you name the patches which you want
11:28 < holyolli> hm.
11:31 < huebi> re
11:31 < holyolli> re huebi
11:31 < huebi> fscking again and again and again...
11:31 < holyolli> bbl.
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11:33 < huebi> armijn: a file filterlist.$ARCH <- That sound good
11:33 < huebi> and allmost easy to implement.
11:33 < huebi> brb
11:33 < huebi> ;-)
11:39 < huebi> re
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11:42 < d3mian> hi ringo78 
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12:03 < praenti> huebi: libgd has a problem with libpng
12:03 < huebi> praenti: welches?
12:03 < praenti> huebi: there are missing two softlinks
12:04 < huebi> praenti: can you fix that?
12:04 < praenti> dist/usr/include/libpng12/png.h dist/usr/include/png.h
12:04 < praenti> and same with pngconf.h
12:04 < praenti> otherwise libgd doesnt find the header files
12:04 < huebi> hmm.
12:05 < praenti> huebi: i'm thinking about a way to fix that. one way is the profile for the chroot and the other in the paket itself
12:06 < praenti> huebi: what would you prefer
12:06 < praenti> huebi: mom. first way wouldnt work i think
12:06 < huebi> praenti: ok
12:06 < praenti> ok. i fix that
12:06 < huebi> kool
12:08 < praenti> huebi: what do i have to write in the *.conf when the script should do sth after building and installingt
12:08 < praenti> postmake?
12:08 < huebi> praenti: Yes, I think so
12:08 < praenti> ok
12:12 < praenti> and fixed
12:13 < huebi> cvs ci ?
12:13 < armijn> huebi: it's better to use "cvs commit" btw...
12:13 < armijn> and use cvs update
12:13 < huebi> armijn: why?
12:14 < armijn> that way you can keep a local copy of the tree
12:14 < armijn> which is much more fun
12:14 < armijn> I do that on "ella"
12:14 * armijn points huebi to the CVS book
12:15 * huebi is looking to the left. Cederqvist is laying there...
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12:17 -!- bruce is now known as armijn
12:18 < armijn> heheh...
12:18 < armijn> fun pestering aussies :)
12:18 < huebi> armijn: What did you do?
12:19 < armijn> oh, just teasing jeff...
12:19 < armijn> he's aussie, and you know the monty python thing, right?
12:19 < armijn> where everyone is called bruce
12:19 < huebi> hehe
12:35 < esden> hi all
12:36 < d3mian> hola esden 
12:36 < huebi> hi esden 
12:36 * huebi is writing more Rocklinux documentation.
12:38 < esden> hola d3mian i huebi 
12:44 < esden> huebi: what kind of documentation ? (url ?)
12:44 < huebi> https://localhost/Rocklinux/Dateisystemreparatur_Rocklinux.html <- What to do if the NT-Admin switched it off.
12:45 < esden> argh I hate stupid people !!!
12:45 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Rocklinux_installation_de.html <- My work from yesterday
12:45 < huebi> esden: Stupidity is the normality.
12:47 < huebi> esden: I load it up later..
12:47 < esden> huebi: sure but I have a tolerance range for stupidity ... and even if the range is very wide some people are going above it ...
12:48 < esden> leke the one who are writing to the mailinglist to unsubscribe and not to the mailinglist managment adress ... 
12:48 < d3mian> i was that man ;)
12:48 < huebi> esden: Are you too stupid to widen your range of stupidity acseptance? ;-))
12:48 < d3mian> im kidding
12:48 < d3mian> :)
12:49 < esden> d3mian: I hope that for you ;-)
12:49 < huebi> s/s/c/
12:50 < esden> huebi: no I am not to stupid to widen it .... but I am a to big hardliner to change it ..
12:50 < esden> I know hardliner are also some kind of stupid ... ;-)
12:51 < d3mian> my mailserver is not working, is there other way to take a glance to the rocklinux mailing list?
12:51 < huebi> esden: The are some harder hardliners in Israel / Palestine. ;-))
12:53 < huebi> I also hate stupidity, and it's really hard to arrage with it ;(
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12:54 < esden> d3mian: https://www1.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/
12:55 < esden> huebi: you see ... 
12:55 < d3mian> dependig of what u mean with stupidity, which is not the same that a lamb person
12:55 < d3mian> thanks esden 
13:02 < d3mian> well, it's too early here, i need to go work now, culater
13:04 < esden> huebi: autsh the installation howto is really good .... like for real lamers ;-)
13:05 < esden> I could give it probbably my mother and she would manage to install rock ;-)
13:05 < esden> cu d3mian 
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13:20 < huebi> esden: Thank you for the compliment ;-) It's intended to be for beginners. And now it's tested by a beginner and approved to be good
13:20 < esden> with the beginner you mean me ? ;-)
13:23 < huebi> esden: No! Not you. Sabine, I'm working with is involed in Linux since the beginning of march. That are only 10 weeks. And she just installed a server with this manual without my assistance. She says it's sufficiently for her needs.
13:24 * huebi waits for the aspell plugin for irssi.
13:25 < esden> huebi: me too ... :-(
13:25 < huebi> hehe
13:25 < huebi> Sabine really like UNIX. That's great!
13:27 * huebi is away for lunch
13:27 < esden> a femail beeing that likes UNIX cool
13:29 < huebi> esden: Yes, it is!
13:30 < huebi> esden: The second one here in this company...
13:30 < huebi> und wech...
13:31 < esden> huebi: guten appetitt
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13:38 < ringo78> https://www.linuxchix.org
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14:19 < esden> let us linuxchix use rocklinux !!!
14:24 < huebi> re
14:25 < esden> re huebi 
14:26 < capchaos> heh you a linuxchicks member, esden?
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14:42 < capchaos> welcome back rxr
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14:45 < capchaos> hi Lorini
14:45 < Lorini> hi
14:45 < capchaos> what takes you here? ;-)
14:46 < Lorini> you :)
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15:07 < esden> ahh I love brainf***
15:08 < esden> this is the most beautiful language that I know !
15:08 < capchaos> heheh
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15:12 < esden> >+++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<+.---.------------.++++++++.+.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++.+++++++.+++.>++++++++++[<----------->-]<.----------
15:12 < esden> and what does this mean ?
15:12 < capchaos> what does it do?
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15:16 < esden> try it here is the interpreter for brainfuck in ansi c :
15:17 < esden> char m[9999],*n[99],*r=m,*p=m+5000,**s=n,d,c;main(){for(read(0,r,4000);c=*r;r++)c-']'||(d>1||(r=*p?*s:(--s,r)),!d||d--),c-'['||d++||(*++s=r),d||(*p+=c=='+',*p-=c=='-',p+=c=='>',p-=c=='<',c-'.'||write(2,p,1),c-','||read(2,p,1));}
15:22 < capchaos> esden: hehehe, thats c00l
15:26 < esden> capchaos: works ?
15:26 < capchaos> yes!
15:26 < esden> hehe
15:26 < esden> do you want more code ?
15:28 < capchaos> i'm surfing the brainfuck sites
15:28 < capchaos> translate into brainfuck?
15:28 < capchaos> how do you translate into brainfuck?
15:28 < esden> >+++++++[<++++++++++++>-]<+++.++++++++++++++.>++++++[<----------->-]<---.>+++++[<+++++++++++++++>-]<+.+++.+++++++.>++++[<---->-]<-.>++++++[<----------->-]<---.>+++++[<++++++++++>-]<.---.------------.++++++++.+.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++.+++++++.+++.>+++++++[<------------>-]<---...>+++[<------->-]<--.----------
15:29 < esden> I use a brainfuck assembler ;-)
15:30 < esden> but I could also write it by hand ... writing text in bf is not difficult
15:32 < esden> writing algorithms is difficult
15:32 < capchaos> uuh, nasm is not installed
15:32 < esden> https://koeln.ccc.de/projekte/brainfuck/
15:33 < esden> not nasm but bfa is what you search for
15:33 < esden> or ?
15:33 < capchaos> the one i found uses nasm
15:33 < capchaos> https://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt
15:34 < capchaos> bfa = brainfuck-assembler
15:34 < capchaos> first i need to compile the thingy
15:34 < capchaos> ;9
15:36 < esden> bfa compiles pseudo assembler to bf code
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15:39 < esden> yo good topic ;-)
15:40 < esden> ok I have to go
15:40 < esden> cu all
15:40 < capchaos> bye esden
15:50 < rxr> re
15:51 < rxr> super heute wo wir das Physik-Protokoll besonderst zusammengepfuscht habe, hat der Prof das doch echt mitgenommen - um es sich genau anzusehen ...
15:51 < rxr> wir sind soo tot ... :-(
15:57 * rxr starting to burn the sparc ISOs ;-)
16:20 < rxr> huebi: How do I get into the OBP - or tell the box to boot from CD ?
16:25 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Dateisystemreparatur_Rocklinux.html <- Wieder was neues
16:26 < huebi> rxr: STOP-a
16:26 < SMP> Moin
16:26 < huebi> rxr: Stop-Taste und dann gleichzeitig a-Taste betaetigen.
16:27 < huebi> Moin SMP ;-))
16:27 < rxr> huebi: tnx -> I test it ;-)
16:28 < rxr> huebi: btw is there a way to reboot the box? it allways powers-off on shutdown ...
16:28 < huebi> init 6
16:28 < huebi> init 5 powers off
16:28 < rxr> ah
16:28 < huebi> and, if you're in the OK-Prompt
16:28 < huebi> set-defaults
16:29 < huebi> to reset the OBP to defaults
16:30 < huebi> setenv diag-level min
16:30 < huebi> * Um die Zeit fuer den Selbsttest im POST nach einem Reset deutlich zu verkuerzen, wird die NVRAM-Variable diag-level auf min gesetzt.
16:30 < huebi> * Nun wird die Diagnosefunktion der Open Boot Promts und die Ausgabe auf das Terminal auf ein Minimum beschraenkt.
16:30 < huebi> setenv diag-switch? false
16:31 < rxr> huebi: und wie boote ich die suxe CD ?
16:31 < huebi> und von CD-ROM gebootet 
16:31 < huebi> boot cdrom
16:31 < rxr> danke ;-)
16:31 < rxr> hasst du ne URL fuer nen Manual ?
16:31 < huebi> im SILO Prompt rescue eingeben
16:31 < huebi> SILO: rescue [RETURN]
16:33 < rxr> huebi: hehe - das habe ich ausnahmsweise selber herrausgefunden ;-)
16:33 < rxr> linux rennt ;-)
16:34 < huebi> Sehr geehrter Herr Rebe. Wir freuen uns Ihnen mitteilen zu koennen, dass der einwoechige SUN OBP-Kurs sie nur 3500 EUR kosten wird. Gerne erwarten wir Ihre verbindliche Bestellung eines unserer OBP-Kurse *GGG*
16:34 < huebi> MfgG SUN
16:34 < rxr> Oh. Schoen. Freu. 
16:35 * rxr Anmeldungskarte ausfuellen *g*
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16:35 < rxr> huebi: there is no doc online ?
16:35 < huebi> rxr: mom
16:36 < clifford> new channel topic... who is the brainf*ck artist?
16:36 < capchaos> esden
16:36 < clifford> hi, btw. :-)
16:37 < capchaos> hi cliff
16:37 < clifford> what does it do?
16:37 < rxr> hi clifford 
16:37 < capchaos> clifford: try it out ;)
16:38 < clifford> rxr: Hi. gestern ist mir ein ziemlicher knoten im kopf aufgegangen. Ich hab' versucht das ganze zu dokumentieren - aber bis jetzt entspricht das dukumentierte nicht wirklich meiner idee ..
16:38 < clifford> https://www.clifford.at/priv/gsmp.txt
16:38 < rxr> argh ripclaw is a clown - I said he will leave a partition free for linux - but now slowlaris is spread over the whole disk *argh*
16:38 < clifford> lies dir mal durch und sag mir was du darueber denkst.
16:39 < rxr> clifford: mach ich (spaeter)
16:40 < rxr> muss gleich mal 1.7 wieter fixen, linux auf meine neue Sparc bekommen UND den Rolling ROCK text schreiben ...
16:40 < rxr> wieviele texte sind schon bei dir eingegangen ?
16:41 < rxr> huebi: should I wipe all slowlaris partitions ?
16:41 < rxr> huebi: can I simply copy all files to a NFS server and reuse this backup to reinstall Slowlaris (or to they sone tricks to prevent this ?)
16:42 < huebi> Ich habe gerade ein neues Angebot fuer die SUN JavaStation-10, auch "Krups" oder "Tower" mit 64MB RAM und 8MB Flash bekommen: 116 EUR incl MwSt + Versand.
16:42 < huebi> rxr: mom
16:45 < huebi> Hat noch jemand Interesse and einer "Kaffeemaschine?"
16:45 < th_> hmmm
16:45 < th_> eigentlich schon
16:45 < th_> is das flash bootable?
16:45 < huebi> So weit ich weiss, ja
16:45 < huebi> www.ultralinux.org
16:46 < th_> also eine nehm ich auf jeden fall...
16:46 < th_> wird's in 5 monaten immernoch die chance geben?
16:47 < th_> wo waren die bilder, damit ich nochmal zuordnen kann welche die krups war?
16:47 < huebi> th_: 10 Stueck konnten die mir nicht verkaufen ;(
16:48 < th_> aua
16:48 < huebi> https://www.idsa.org/whatis/seewhat/idea98/winners/javastation.htm
16:49 < huebi> https://dubinski-family.org/~jshowto/doc/html/single/JavaStation-HOWTO.html#KrupsDescSection
16:49 < rxr> huebi: wolltest du dich noch zu dem wie sichere ich slowlaris auslassen ;-) *draengel*
16:50 < huebi> rxr: rm -rf /* <- Macht immer schnell viel Platz. moment
16:52 < huebi> https://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/sparcdownload.html <- Kost' nix!
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16:53 < huebi> hi kvak|uninvited 
16:53 < kvak|uninvited> oh hi, nice topic ;-)
16:53 < huebi> kvak|uninvited: Noch gut gesclafen, gestern?
16:53 < huebi> kvak|uninvited: Pure brainfuck assembler
16:53 < kvak|uninvited> Hmmm bis auf zwei kleine Unterbrechungen um 2:30 und um 5:10 schon ;-)
16:54 < rxr> huebi: you meatn simply destroy the slowlaris partiion and maybe reinstall it later ? ;-)
16:54 < huebi> rxr: EXACT.
16:54 < rxr> ok
16:55 < rxr> me removing all partitions ...
16:57 < huebi> rxr: Sparcs have slices, no partitions
16:58 < kvak|uninvited> bsd-like
16:59 < rxr> huebi: fdisk tells me that it is recommended to have the thred slice cover the whole disk
16:59 < rxr> huebi: is this necessary for Linux on the box ?
16:59 < huebi> rxr: Jo.
16:59 < rxr> huebi: for linux?
16:59 < huebi> jo
16:59 < rxr> why?
16:59 < huebi> hehe
16:59 < huebi> mom
17:00 < kvak|uninvited> niahaha
17:00 * rxr will have much fun during this Sun boot frickling ...
17:02 < huebi> rxr: Sparc is different. You have at maximum 8 slices. the 3rd is allways over the whole disk
17:03 < rxr> argh!
17:03 < rxr> and now fdisk tells me the 1st shouldn't be Linux swap ...
17:03 < huebi> rxr: the 3rd is called backup ;-)
17:03 < rxr> whta f**k is this ?!?!?
17:03 < huebi> rxr: exact!
17:04 < huebi> rxr: THIS IS NOT A FUCKED UP PC!!!
17:04 < rxr> huebi: Do the SUN peoeple consume beer the whole day?
17:04 < rxr> huebi: is there a special requirement for the boot slice ?
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17:04 < rxr> huebi: no IT IS A FUCKED UP SUN ;-)
17:06 < kvak|uninvited> *applause*
17:06 < huebi> r`*LOOL*
17:06 < kvak|uninvited> hihi. und das am fruehen nachmittag ;-)
17:06 < huebi> rxr: *LOOL*
17:07 < rxr> huebi: so some hacks needed for the boot slice ?
17:07 < rxr> and what are the flags about? the 2nd has a U flag ... ???
17:08 < huebi> rxr: RTFM (Ich wollte schon immer mal so richtig arrogant sein.) Moment, Loesung kommt gleich.
17:09 < rxr> huebi: give me TFM and I reda it ;-)
17:10 < huebi> rxr: forget about the flags in the moment.
17:13 < rxr> hm shit on the sus rescue is no bzip2 :-(
17:16 < rxr> ok it is on the rock CD ...
17:18 < huebi> 1st slice: /
17:18 < huebi> 2nd slice: swap
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17:19 < huebi> mucho swapo, 512MB about that.
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17:19 < tommik> hello
17:20 < huebi> hi tommik 
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17:23 < rxr> huebi: the SuSE tar SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS
17:24 < rxr> I needed 20min to figure out how this fucked up beast wanna gets its parameters ...
17:24 < rxr> stupid thing ...
17:24 * th_ hands rxr a y/I/y/ regexp 
17:24 < rxr> huebi: I have 200MB swap . Shouldn't that be enough?
17:25 < rxr> too much might slowdown the VirtualMemory system ... ?!?
17:25 < huebi> rxr: For mozilla compiles should it be more
17:25 < rxr> urgh
17:25 < rxr> ok ok ok 
17:26 < huebi> rxr:  on my U30 I have 1G swap and 1216MB RAM
17:28 < rxr> sure on my athlon I also have:Mem:        515972 Swap:       524624 ...
17:28 < rxr> yes I knwo the SUN is RISC ... - and needs more ... ...
17:29 < huebi> rxr: Please calm down. It's not worth to be angry. It's just an other, but nice box if you learned it. Sparcs are really fun.
17:29 < rxr> huebi: ? I'm not up .. - I'm quite relaxed - watching the find ... -exec tar ... to deflate ROCK ;-)
17:30 < huebi> nice.
17:30 < huebi> SuXe is as different from Linux as Solaris.
17:30 < rxr> but the partition scheme is really strange. Would be nice to see for what this hardcodings are ...
17:30 < huebi> is
17:31 < rxr> huebi: after deflating all the tars, what is needed to get OPB to boot silo and silo load the kernel image ?
17:31 < rxr> huebi: is the ROCK kernel ok, or do I have to custom compile one even for the first boot ?
17:32 < huebi> On IRIX the disk label is different again.
17:32 < huebi> mom
17:34 < huebi> flood:
17:34 < huebi>  
17:34 < huebi> root@fels:~# cat /etc/silo.conf 
17:34 < huebi> # ripclaw silo.conf manually
17:34 < huebi> #
17:34 < huebi> timeout=80
17:34 < huebi> partition=1
17:34 < huebi> root=/dev/hda1
17:34 < huebi> read-only
17:34 < huebi> image=/boot/vmlinux
17:34 < huebi>   label=linux
17:34 < huebi>   append="devfs=compat root=/dev/hda1"
17:34 < huebi> image=/boot/vmlinux
17:34 < huebi>   label=rockway
17:34 < huebi>   append="root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1"
17:34 < huebi> root@fels:~# 
17:34 < huebi>  
17:34 < huebi> rxr: Thios one should work for you.
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17:35 < hackbard> re
17:35 < huebi> hackbard: also for you
17:35 < huebi> hi hackbard 
17:35 < hackbard> ich muss esrtmal auspacken :)
17:36 < hackbard> rxr: suse ? 
17:36 < hackbard> i cant scroll to the whole top of ur discussions :(
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17:37 < praenti_> can anybody how i restart a stopped process?
17:37 < praenti_> in bach
17:37 < praenti_> s/bach/bash
17:37 < praenti_> ...say
17:38 * praenti_ hates siemens tstaturen
17:38 < huebi> praenti_: fg
17:39 < praenti_> the break is not on the normal position. so i stopped my irssi process and dont know how i can change the status
17:40 * huebi geht mal neue Bremsen fuers Auto kaufen. CU
17:41 < rxr> hackbard: only to boot the suse rescue system to deflate ROCK-1.5.12 ...
17:41 < praenti_> argh. is niemand da oder hat noch niemand ein gestoppten prozess wieder aktiviert... *grml*
17:41 < rxr> huebi: much fun!
17:42 < rxr> praenti_: kill CONT <PID> ???
17:42 < rxr> oder fg (when stopped with bash ...)
17:43 < rxr> oder bg ...
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17:43 < praenti> ok.
17:46 < hackbard> rxr: i have cross build the minimal sparc root yesterday - i just need a nfsroot, dhcp, rarp supporting kernel know and hope to be able to boot it over net ..
17:47 < hackbard> an alternative nfsroot might be jans iso image i downloaded some time ago for the java
17:47 < hackbard> but i think i ll check out solaris first .. :)
17:48 < rxr> hackbard: ok - but I have no dhcp, ... server running - so this would be some mroe tinkering until tis would be ready ...
17:48 < rxr> hackbard: or this ;-)
17:48 < rxr> (^-outchcking solaris ...)
17:49 < hackbard> hehe, ich meinet damit "mal anschauen" :)
17:52 < rxr> hackbard: but slowlaris wasn't that interesting. X11 sucked and C C++ compiler where missing ...
17:52 < rxr> so a runnin ROCK would be magnitudes more useable ;-)
17:54 < hackbard> sure, solaris wont survive that long :)
17:55 < hackbard> well, at least i hope
17:55 < hackbard> but there is coming a frind to me in a few hours who is solaris and aix admin and i wanted him to introduce me a bit to solaris stuff
17:57 < hackbard> rxr: do you have his kontonummer printed somewhere? i want to send him the money ow ..
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18:00 < armijn> re
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18:03 < rxr> hackbard_: hehe - you are right - it is missing ...
18:04 < hackbard> rxr: does this mean he doesnt want an money? :) *jk
18:05 < armijn> nice topic here
18:05 < hackbard> hi armijn
18:05 < th_> can't find that topic interesting
18:06 < armijn> same here
18:06 < hackbard> armijn: the sparc from ripclaw finaly arrived
18:06 < armijn> hmm...what's missing??
18:06 < hackbard> nothing i hope :)
18:06 < armijn> and @ rxr?
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18:10 < rxr> armijn: no the SPARC is fine
18:10 < esden> re hi al
18:10 < armijn> rxr: it's an ultrasparc, no sparc :)
18:10 < rxr> hackbard: would be nice if this indicates the money should stay on our side ;-)
18:11 < rxr> armijn: sure ... - if you wanna write me the full name everytime ;-) I'll do so ;-)
18:11 < armijn> just write sparc64
18:11 < armijn> or sparcv9
18:12 < rxr> ups I know it is v9 ;-) I allready read through the CPU instructions ;-) ...
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18:25 < blindcoder> hi everyone
18:26 < blindcoder> esden: you can have your S3Virge back
18:31 < rxr> hackbard: deflating ROCK: 29min
18:32 < rxr> 1.7 GB ...
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18:36 < holyolli> ugh...that a topic...
18:36 < holyolli> re
18:37 < armijn> yeah, horrible
18:38 < hackbard> rxr: cool! - i am still looking for more power supplies and patch cables ..
18:40 < hackbard> wow, the disk is loud!
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18:41 < rxr> hackbard: i think it is the font fan which is loud
18:42 < holyolli> ah..your suns have arrived...or should i say raised? ;-)
18:42 < rxr> hackbard: the U5 also generate mouch higher frequency noise than my Athlon XP - this really suck for sleeping in the same room....
18:42 < armijn> hehehe
18:43 < rxr> huebi: armijn: what is needed to get OPB load silo ?
18:43 < rxr> huebi: armijn: is there a online OPB command overview ? ;-)
18:44 < hackbard> rxr: the disk here is more noisy then the fan ... 
18:44 < armijn> rxr: run silo
18:45 < hackbard> yes armijn, pls stay here the next days ;)
18:45 < armijn> rxr: go into silo (stop-a) and try "help"
18:45 < armijn> hackbard: no way
18:45 < armijn> :)
18:45 < hackbard> hehe
18:46 < armijn> sorry
18:46 < rxr> what was the name of the "create-dev-nodes-in-/dev" script ??
18:47 < armijn> whu?
18:47 < armijn> where?
18:47 < armijn> you mean MAKENOD?
18:47 < armijn> or MKNOD?
18:48 < rxr> I do not mean the mknod command 
18:48 < rxr> but mom - still hacking ...
18:49 < armijn> I can advise you to take Debian instead of Jan's image...
18:49 < armijn> *lots* of stuff needs to be fixed in Jan's image first before you can actually start building
18:49 < armijn> a *lot*
18:49 < armijn> are you guys going to use Jan's image?
18:51 < armijn> might be better to use Debian, or wait for a new image from huebi
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18:53 < armijn> rxr, hackbard: if you want the easy ride, install Debian on it
18:54 < armijn> if you want to waste a lot of time, you should use the current rock image :)
18:54 < hackbard> hehe
18:55 < hackbard> i cross buiodl a minimal root yesterday
18:55 < hackbard> dietlibc(we dont care), gcc3 (maybe not good) and time failed
18:56 < armijn> hackbard: forget about gcc3 for now
18:56 < hackbard> i wanted (eg you) to build a kernel supporting nfsroot and all that dhcp and rarp stuff, so i amable to boot it like the java thew first time
18:56 < hackbard> and then extract jans iso image ... 
18:56 < armijn> ehr, go for Debian.
18:56 < hackbard> hmm, rxr, what rock version did you extract?
18:56 < armijn> I will try to do some more stuff on huebi's machine next week, add missing packages
18:57 < hackbard> cool
18:57 < hackbard> anyways, could build that krnel for me? :)
18:57 < hackbard> + you
18:57 < armijn> I guess...but not now :)
18:58 < hackbard> cool, thnx
18:58 < hackbard> dont enable NBD support ;)
18:58 < hackbard> hehe
18:59 < rxr> YEAH
18:59 < rxr> ROCK-1.5.12 up and running ;-)
19:00 < hackbard> rxr: what image?
19:00 < hackbard> go build akernel for me :p 
19:00 < hackbard> hehe
19:00 < armijn> rxr: you will need to build a new compiler first
19:00 < armijn> rxr: download egcs64
19:00 < armijn> rxr: unpack it, patch it
19:01 < armijn> rxr: configure it (prefix==/usr/local !!!) and build and install it
19:01 < rxr> hackbard: armijn the one huebi told me:
19:01 < rxr> https://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~veninga/rock/rock-sparc64-base-1.5.12.iso
19:01 < armijn> rxr: yeah, I know...lots of stuff wrong with it
19:01 < rxr> armijn: what is that wrong with it? huebi's build compiled most base packages ...
19:02 < armijn> rxr: gcc 2.95.3 is not good enough for the kernel
19:02 < rxr> armijn: why is this compiler needed? Why does gcc-2.95.3 or some gcc3.xxx does not work for the kernel ?
19:02 < hackbard> okay, that also includes the 64bit kernel i need to boot i think
19:02 * hackbard downloading
19:02 < armijn> gcc2.95.3 cannot generate good 64 bit sparc code
19:02 < armijn> gcc 3 is not the official kernel compiler
19:03 < rxr> armijn: I'll do some tests with them ;-)
19:03 < armijn> rxr: no use
19:03 < armijn> it will fail, definitely
19:03 < armijn> I tried it
19:06 < armijn> rxr: make a symlink called sparc64-linux-gcc to /opt/egcs64/bin/sparc64-unknown-linux-gcc
19:06 < armijn> otherwise the kernel compile will fail
19:06 < armijn> or rebuild egcs64 the way I do in the rock-1.5.14 (see CVS)
19:07 < armijn> otherwise you will have a problem
19:07 < armijn> ok, I'm off to the pub
19:07 < armijn> cu
19:07 < hackbard> armijn: have fun, later ..
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19:13 < tsa> tag
19:13 < holyolli> moin tsa.
19:14 < tsa> cool topic.
19:15 < tsa> holyolli: bringst du morgen broetchen mit?
19:15 < tsa> (matthias hatte grad angerufen..)
19:15 < holyolli> jo
19:16 < holyolli> tsa: welcher matthias?
19:16 < holyolli> tsa: kann ich machen
19:16 < tsa> s.
19:16 < holyolli> wieviele
19:16 < holyolli> s?
19:16 < tsa> weiss nich, denk dir was aus.
19:16 < tsa> matthias s.
19:21 < rxr> ok - I'm short off buying some foots. Cu in a few minutes
19:21 < tsa> rxr: du kaufst dir Füssse?
19:21 * tsa wundert sich.
19:22 < rxr> foods ...
19:22 < tsa> ah.
19:22 < tsa> lol.
19:23 < rxr> tsa: couldn't you enable your IRC spelling fixer *g*
19:24 * rxr away ...
19:25 < tsa> hehe
19:25 < tsa> cu
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19:36 < d3mian> ew
19:37 < esden> urgh ...
19:37 < esden> *yawn*
19:40 < capchaos> go get some sleep esden ;)
19:40 < d3mian> umm, icewm has released a new version
19:40 < d3mian> hola
19:40 < esden> capchaos: slee.... what ?
19:40 < capchaos> gruess dich d3mian :)
19:40 < d3mian> what is sleep?
19:41 < capchaos> esden: the thingy similar, but not as powerful as caffein
19:41 < esden> ahh ... now I guess what you mean ... the second thing you can do in the bed ;-)
19:42 < capchaos> esden: heh, yes. but its existence is only a rumor..
19:42 < d3mian> ;-)
19:42 < esden> capchaos: sure ... that is why I could not remember what you mean ...
19:43 < capchaos> ;)
19:45 < d3mian> out the computer world, some strange people practices the "sleep" act in the bed, they are strange
19:45 < capchaos> indeed
19:45 < blindcoder> esden: as said efore, you can have your s3 savage back
19:52 < esden> blindcoder: yes I have read that ... good thanks ;-)
19:57 < rxr> re
19:57 < rxr> esden: Hi!
19:59 < huebi> re MoeP! hi
20:08 < tsa> hi huebi
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20:16 < d3mian> capchaos: dunno, but it is kool by now
20:17 < capchaos> :)
20:18 < capchaos> anyways i'll try to build drock 1.6 for i686, hope it works
20:18 < d3mian> sth i hope is reiserfs and ext3 in kernel for rock install cd ...
20:19 < capchaos> i have reiserfs running, its fine
20:19 * capchaos compiled the kernel right after installing packages
20:20 < esden> rxr: HI!
20:20 < d3mian> dunt like ext2, and i think that i would like to mount a external partition with other system after install
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20:20 < d3mian> drock has support for reiserfs, rock still not, i guess
20:21 < capchaos> hum, maybe
20:21 < capchaos> i did mkreiserfs in the install shell
20:21 < d3mian> dunt know how big the kernel grows if reiserfs and ext3 support is added
20:22 < rxr> dRock supoprts reiserfs and ext2/3 - even on the install-disk !!!
20:22 < d3mian> yes capchaos
20:22 < esden> hi huebi 
20:22 < martin_> hi all
20:22 < huebi> hi esden 
20:22 < d3mian> sure rxr 
20:22 < capchaos> hello martin_
20:22 < capchaos> rxr: fine! ;)
20:22 < capchaos> rxr: you did a great job..
20:22 < huebi> rxr, hackbard: https://de.sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=content/content9
20:23 < d3mian> and why not reiserfs and ext3 is added to rock install kernel? too much space in kernel?
20:23 < rxr> capchaos: As I wrote for the i686 build you need to modify the install-disk build scripts to make it fit on the disk
20:23 < rxr> capchaos: or use another image to boot - but I guess I wrote this several times ;-)
20:24 < rxr> huebi: Thanks!
20:24 < rxr> hi martin_ 
20:24 < capchaos> rxr: yes, i will consider this
20:25 < rxr> martin_: I guess for the phisics stuff - we might get some serious talk in two weeks :-(
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20:25 < esden> boys ... how do you like the current #rocklinux topic ?
20:26 < d3mian> topic
20:26 < capchaos> esden: nice!
20:26 < capchaos> esden: its a brainfucked nice topic!
20:26 < esden> capchaos: I know ... you were here as I set it ;-) ... 
20:26 < capchaos> ;-)
20:26 < esden> capchaos: muahaha
20:27 < esden> but I am wondering what others are thinking ...
20:27 < esden> "kaltes klares wasser" *sing* 
20:27 < capchaos> maybe you should set the entrymsg to "Speak English or Brainfuck.."
20:28 < esden> capchaos: good idea !!!
20:28 < capchaos> esden: whats the song called again?
20:28 < esden> Malaria_vs_ChicksOn_Speed_Kalt
20:29 < esden> Malaria_vs_ChicksOn_Speed_Kaltes_Klares_Wasser
20:29 < capchaos> ok 
20:29 * capchaos gone to audiogalaxy
20:29 < esden> I have the mp3 here ...
20:29 < martin_> ne ne rxr, wird schon nicht so schlimm.
20:30 < rxr> woe - the Sun
20:31 < rxr> 's network is up - and this sentence is now typed on it ;-)
20:31 < esden> rxr: cool *cheer*
20:32 < martin_> rxr: after logout from kde, my x-server did not start again.
20:32 < martin_> rxr: May 16 19:53:30 tux gdm[1592]: gdm_slave_exec_script: Failed starting: /etc/gdm/PostSession//Default
20:33 < rxr> but this american keylayout slows me slightly down ...
20:33 < rxr> martin_: ?? what is this from ? Problems on your side ???
20:35 < martin_> rxr: after logout from kde, I have only a black screen. but only rarely.
20:36 < rxr> martin_: ah. This is not nice ...
20:36 < rxr> but this would be a gdm problem
20:36 < rxr> I
20:37 < rxr> I'll update it to the latest version and try to get kdm to do s.th. usefull for 1.6.0
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20:38 < rxr> (when I have some linebreaks in the middle of the line, this is because of the american enter key on the Sun keyborad ;-)
20:40 < hackbard> huebi: thanks, added to bookmarks!
20:41 < rxr> hackbard: I
20:42 < rxr> 'll try to compile the kernel with gcc3.1
20:42 < hackbard> cool
20:42 < rxr> on the ultralinux page is written that the 2.96 and 3.x ones might/should work
20:44 < hackbard> btw, how could you intsall rock, does sue have devfs kernel?
20:44 < rxr> btw huebi is there no Virtual Terminal thing on Slowlaris? -> so only a X=Server running?
20:48 * rxr gpm runnin ;-)
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21:06 < snyke> hmm
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21:06 < rxr> NFS up
21:07 < rxr> cool the U5 has answers faster to ICMP echo requests during compiling gcc31 than an nearlz idle PII-450 ;-)
21:13 < rxr> does anyone know how I get color into the screen running on a linux vt? When I resume this screen in a xterm i have a colored irrsi - if I resume it on a VT it is only b/w ... I also tried TERM=linux-c without success ...
21:14 < rxr> ok TERM=xterm-new yields a colored screen - but is there a nicer way /
21:14 < hackbard> rxr: did you succeed compiling ur kernel?
21:14 < hackbard> sorry, dunno
21:14 < d3mian> huebi: and any probs known in this one?
21:14 < rxr> hackbard: I still compile gcc-3.1-20020510 ...
21:14 < huebi> d3mian: no
21:15 < d3mian> rxr: TERM='xterm-color'
21:15 < d3mian> ok
21:16 < rxr> hackbard: and the U5 might need some more minutes (hours?) to finish the gcc ...
21:16 < d3mian> rxr: or start a bash --login if u have TERM set to 'linux'
21:16 < hackbard> i ll try to buid the kernel on huebis machine then ..
21:16 < d3mian> cu guys
21:16 < hackbard> bye demian
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21:18 < rxr> hackbard: I really need a kernel with the SUN font (or add some kernel parameter for the screen resolution) the framebuffer font is far too tiny ... ;-) but so far this is my only prob *g*
21:19 < rxr> hackbard: 160x64 on a 17" screen ... - really hurts ... 
21:20 < hackbard> cool, in case i cant get it rocked in my way it would be nice if you could give me a step by step explanation of how you did things :)
21:20 < hackbard> hehe, definetly
21:22 < rxr> hackbard: ups feel free to tell me when you need some step by step help - so huebi does not have to tell it again :-)
21:22 < rxr> huebi: Much thanks!
21:22 * -> esden going to bitz ... brb
21:33 < capaway> <offtopic> have i to update the broken URLs manually? </offtopic>
21:34 < capaway> (in the scripts of dRock1.6rc3)
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21:35 < kvak|uninvited> reee
21:35 < capaway> hi kvak|uninvited
21:36 < kvak|uninvited> test
21:36 < rxr> capaway: erm zes
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21:36 < rxr> capaway: are soo many broken?
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21:37 < kvak|uninvited> ok
21:37 < capaway> rxr: on the first gasp, yes
21:38 < rxr> capaway: shouldn+t be too many mazbe 10-20 ?
21:38 < huebi> hi kvak|uninvited ;-))
21:38 < capaway> rxr: hum, what about a way of the scripts updateting the urls from some rock-site before they start downloading?
21:38 < capaway> rxr: yes. not more..
21:39 < rxr> capaway: what rock site +
21:39 < capaway> rxr: only an idea
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21:40 < rxr> the URLs needs  to be updated manually and in the other trees you can use ./scripts/UpdateSrc -all to rsznc to the latest snapshot :-)
21:42 < capaway> in the other trees?
21:43 < rxr> hm I need a bigger disk for the U5 - it is nearly impossible to build ROCK on such a tiny one ....
21:43 < rxr> capaway: in the latest Clifford devel series at least
21:43 < rxr> huebi's 1.5 can be updates from CVS ...
21:44 < capaway> ah ok
21:44 < capaway> rxr: so.. what if the builds finally do not fit on one disc.. is there a way to write 2 discs?
21:49 < rxr> capaway: no the emulated floppt is allreadz 2.88 MB in size.
21:49 < rxr> I would have to take a new look whether we could throw s.th. from the floppies, or you could also edit the linux kernel config before
21:49 < rxr> the build. like disbling apm support or so ... 
21:49 < rxr> this would free the few kB that are missing for the bigger i686 binaries ...
21:50 < capaway> ok
21:54 < capaway> it is better to build the not-installation-relevant features afters installtion anyways
22:03 < rxr> capaway: dRock is also intended for intermediate Linux users (not only pure hackes) - so our latest default kernel does normally not need to be modfied
22:04 < rxr> capaway: And so APM for power-down is included ...
22:04 < capaway> okay ;)
22:05 < esden> https://developers.slashdot.org/developers/02/05/16/1631243.shtml?tid=106
22:05 < esden> hmm ...
22:05 < esden> ahh
22:05 < esden> scroll ... >_<
22:05 < capaway> rxr: <quote>Come back to this [documentation] file, when you find compiling the kernel less exciting than it used to be.</quote>
22:06 < rxr> so a raid5 nfs share is now mounted on the sun to have space to compile ROCK ....
22:09 < capaway> maybe ill throw out some packages hum
22:09 < rxr> capaway:  ?
22:10 < rxr> capaway: this does not gelp for the install disk ....
22:10 < capaway> yes, just a second though..
22:11 < capaway> s/though/thought
22:13 * rxr searching for my 10GB IBM IDE disk ...
22:17 < hackbard> rxr: are both of ur network cards recognized?
22:17 < rxr> hackbard: oh I have only one ... ?
22:19 < rxr> hackbard: just tested Stop A to get into the OPB running Linux
22:19 < rxr> worked
22:19 < hackbard> cool
22:19 < rxr> although I do not know whether it is that save to do ...
22:19 < hackbard> did ur gcc compiled succesfully?
22:20 < rxr> no some C++ library problems 
22:20 < hackbard> i finaly compiled the ekrnel on huebis machine
22:20 < rxr> I'll retry it (the 5th time) when I exchanged the hd and reinstalled it ...
22:20 < rxr> I'll put a 10 GB IBM one into it
22:20 < hackbard> though i had ro disable mount on boot at devfs option
22:21 < hackbard> haha, cool
22:21 < rxr> DTTA-351010
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22:26 < rxr> the hardware in the sun is gettin quite warm ??? ...
22:27 < huebi> rxr: Yes, high Perfomance ;-)
22:28 < rxr> huebi: hehe
22:28 < esden> have you seen the trailer of the new matrix ???
22:28 < rxr> ok Sun IDE stuff is used in cable select mode, i see ?!?
22:28 < huebi> esden: new matrix? *habenwill*
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22:29 < esden> https://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer_qt.html 
22:29 < esden> you need quicktime to see it ...
22:29 < esden> as of the trailer ... the film will be really cool ...
22:29 < huebi> esden: How does this work on rock?
22:30 < esden> no idea ... i fired up windows to see it ;-)
22:30 < esden> matrix is worth such bad behaviour ... ;-)
22:32 < huebi> esden: Never! 
22:33 < rxr> huebi: That is my view too ;-) hehe
22:33 < huebi> hehe
22:33 < huebi> esden <- WeichEi hehe
22:33 < huebi> ;-)
22:35 * huebi hat sogar eine WinSucks eNTe Lizenz
22:36 < hackbard> how can i check whether a file is elf or a.out ?
22:36 < huebi> esden: Can you convert it to mpeg?
22:36 < huebi> esden: please
22:36 < huebi> ;>>
22:37 < rxr> is it save to power-off a Sun - when it doesn't want to enter OBP because it is in some waiting for ARP packages loop ????
22:37 < martin_> gute Nacht rxr
22:37 < martin_> good night all
22:37 < rxr> cu martin_ 
22:37 < rxr> martin_: halt
22:37 < huebi> cu martin_ 
22:37 < martin_> rxr: ??
22:37 < rxr> martin_: habt ihr morgen Messtechnik oder unsere Gruppe ?
22:37 < huebi> rxr: Yes, it's save.
22:37 < rxr> huebi: tnx
22:37 < rxr> martin_: ich vermute mal du hasst morgen, oder? 
22:37 < martin_> rxr: :-))   mom 
22:38 < huebi> setenv boot-device disk
22:38 < rxr> martin_: mom? da musst du noch nachdenken ????
22:38 < huebi> or so...
22:38 < martin_> Ja, morgen habe ich messtechnik, du _programmieren_
22:38 < rxr> (ok ich weiss es ja auch nicht soo genau ...)
22:38 < rxr> martin_: ??? glaubst du da findest du mich ??? *lach*
22:38 < rxr> ok gute Nacht martin_ ;-)
22:39 < martin_> rxr: du muss doch deinen leerbeauftragen kennenlernen und ein urteil zu bilden
22:39 < martin_> zu koennen
22:39 < rxr> naja ...
22:39 < martin_> :)  cu
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22:40 < esden> huebi: how can I convert it ... I do not have software for it ...
22:41 < esden>  huebi where can I get the software ...
22:41 < huebi> Don't know.
22:41 < esden> argh ... :-(
22:43 < huebi> freshmeat
22:43 < huebi> https://freshmeat.net/redir/xlv/17867/url_homepage/ ?
22:43 < rxr> so kiste booted noch (von CD ...)
22:43 < huebi> https://xlv.sourceforge.net/ <- die meine ich
22:45 < rxr> huebi: hm the disk is recognized as hdb ...
22:45 < rxr> although I jumpered it cable select as the original one was.
22:46 < rxr> any idea? - maybe manual jumpering to master ?
22:46 < huebi> rxr: ok> test-ide
22:48 < rxr> the OBP doesn know about test-ide ...
22:48 < rxr> i executed a test-all ...
22:49 < huebi> ok> words
22:50 < rxr> a help diag did not yieled any ide stuff
22:50 < rxr> only test-scsi or so ...
22:50 < huebi> .sifting
22:52 < rxr> huebi: ?
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22:53 < huebi> ok> .sifting
22:53 < tsa> *gaehn*
22:53 < huebi> zeigt dir an, was es so alles gibt.
22:54 * -> esden converting the matrix trailer to divx ;-)
22:54 < rxr> huebi: maybe probe-ide was the one needed ;-) Workds now, thanks ...
22:54 < huebi> tsa <- does not use a JavaStation
22:54 < rxr> esden: cool ;-)
22:54 < huebi> esden: Url?
22:54 < esden> *gg*
22:54 < huebi> *MitDenHofenScarr*
22:54 < esden> huebi: I am converting I am not ready with it ...
22:55 < rxr> .shifting ?
22:55 < rxr> doesn't do anything usefull
22:55 < huebi> ok> .sifting
22:55 < rxr> huebi: I start to like the OBP ;-)
22:55 < huebi> rxr: Yes, It's really kool
22:56 < huebi> rxr: Do you know forth?
22:56 < huebi> You can programm new hardware drivers and put them into OBP
22:56 < huebi> also in forth
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22:58 < tsa_> re.
22:58 < tsa_> scheisse.
22:58 < rxr> huebi: not really (only heard of it and read some baiscs some time ago ...)
22:58 < tsa_> sicherung rausgeflogen..
22:58 < rxr> huebi: the fdisk s -> sun-disk-label
22:58 < rxr> confuses me
22:58 < rxr> the ? for autodetect doesn't do anything
22:58 < tsa_> ah...
22:58 < tsa_> the u5 did arrive, i guess..
22:58 < rxr> should I use 0 for custom ?
22:58 < tsa_> scsi or ide disk?
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22:59 < rxr> tsa_: I replaced the 4GB IDE with a 10GB IDE IBM disk ;-)
23:00 < tsa> rxr: ah, i see..does it work?
23:00 < tsa> i
23:00 < d3mian> re
23:00 < tsa> i've had problems with an ibm disc on my u10
23:00 < huebi> hi de
23:00 < huebi> hi d3mian 
23:01 < tsa> the disc wasn't always recognized by the OBP..
23:01 < rxr> tsa: hm so far it seems ok
23:01 < rxr> the fisk custom option doe request really low-level disk geometry defaults ...
23:02 < rxr> as far as I can verify the defaults seem to be ok ...
23:02 < rxr> huebi: ?
23:02 < huebi> rxr: hmm?
23:03 < rxr> huebi:  ;-) ok I simply test it ;-)
23:04 < tsa> rxr: which ibm disc is it?
23:04 < huebi> tsa: the broken one ;-))
23:04 * tsa had the problems with an dtta-351010, 10gb ide
23:05 < tsa> it was terrible slow, too..
23:05 < tsa> never found out what actually caused the problem, but after replacing the disc with a seagate 10gb ide, everthing was fine.
23:05 < huebi> Siegeht ist vielleicht besser?
23:05 < huebi> :-)
23:06 < tsa> huebi: mag sein, auch wenn das irgendwie unlogisch erscheint..
23:06 < huebi> Firmwareproblem ;(
23:06 < tsa> gut moeglich..
23:07 < tsa> einfacher test: "format" sollte die platte auf anhieb ohne probleme erkennen..
23:09 < rxr> tsa: oh exactly this disk ... ;-)
23:10 < rxr> tsa: format in OPB ??
23:10 < rxr> err OBP ...
23:10 < rxr> what does this format do ?
23:11 * rxr deflate started ...
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23:11 < rxr> tsa: so far the tar -x ... runs reasonable fast ... ;-)
23:11 * -> esden installed virtual dub ...
23:12 < tsa> rxr: already running linux or playing around with solaris?
23:14 < huebi> rxr: format = writing a disk label
23:14 < rxr> I wanted to keep solaris - but sine the disk was that small I deleted it ... - but sine I now have some more space I might reinstall it ...
23:14 < rxr> fdisk also seems to be able to do this? correct
23:15 < tsa> ah, i see.
23:15 < tsa> i've never tried installing linux on the u10..
23:15 < rxr> tsa: hm
23:15 < tsa> i might do, but just for a short time..
23:15 < rxr> tsa: where do I enter the IP adress and the gateway DNS config in a allready installed Solaris?
23:16 < tsa> rxr: gateway: /etc/defaultrouter
23:17 < tsa> ip address: /etc/hostname.<interface> has to contain the host name. then put hostname and ip address in /etc/hosts
23:18 < d3mian> does solaris works fine for PCs (intel)? i know the power in Sun hw, but dunno about pcs
23:18 < tsa> dns information goes to /etc/resolv.con, as usual..
23:18 < rxr> d3mian: linux seems to run faster than solaris ...
23:18 < rxr> tsa: ah thanks ;-)
23:19 < d3mian> thanx rene
23:20 < tsa> d3mian: depends...there's a HCL (hardware compability list) for solaris on x86 available somewhere..
23:20 < huebi> d3mian: If you have more than 4 CPU's Solaris scales better than Linux
23:20 < tsa> but solaris for x86 is no longer available for free from the sun website, so you'll have to buy it.
23:20 < tsa> it's about $45, AFAIK
23:20 < d3mian> well, i have it now @ home
23:21 < d3mian> the isos
23:21 < huebi> tsa: Exact
23:21 < tsa> ah, ok
23:21 < d3mian> for solaris 8
23:21 < tsa> i have it somewhere here, too..
23:22 < rxr> huebi: the scaleability has been fixed mostly with the new 0/(1) scehduler ;-)
23:23 < huebi> Is Linux now faster on E12K than Solaris9? That's the only question I have ;-))
23:23 < tsa> huebi: i doubt that....
23:23 < huebi> tsa: me too
23:23 < tsa> i wouldn't consider using linux on large sun systems. linux doesn't scale very good, IMHO. 
23:24 < huebi> Linux is very Intel orientated
23:24 < tsa> it's ok for workstations and small stuff, it might run on sun workstations, but i wouldn't recommend running on big sun stuff..
23:24 < huebi> N8
23:24 < tsa> huebi: yes i know. the world is very intel-orentated.
23:24 < tsa> +i
23:24 < tsa> n8 huebi
23:25 < d3mian> ill try it for a while in my pc
23:25 < d3mian> guten nacht huebi 
23:28 < hackbard> lol
23:28 < hackbard> OBP rulez
23:29 < hackbard> linux kernel booted - still have to find out how to give nfsroot :)
23:29 < tsa> hehe
23:30 < esden> autsch conversion 50% ... 250MB data ... that is plain not divx ...
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23:39 < rxr> tsa: hm untaring to the new disk took exactly as long as id did before ... ;_)
23:40 < tsa> hm..ok
23:41 < tsa> btw....how fast are the u5 and how much of ram do they have?
23:41 < tsa> 300mhz / 128mb ?
23:47 < tsa> hm...rxr: currently working on sf cvs?
23:50 < d3mian> i go home for trying install rock 1.5.13 on ext3, cu
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23:57 < esden> here is the url ... I found : https://www.jimmyhack.net/MATRIX_SVCD_JH.rar
23:57 < esden> but I can not extract the rar :-(
23:57 < esden> please someone test ...
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