-!- Irrsi  Log opened Thu May 16 00:00:10 2002
[00:02] < SMP> bleh, das kommt ja verboten lahm aus USA rueber
[00:03] < rxr> tsa: Danke fuer deinen Security Hinweis ... ;-) SH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.0.2p1
[00:04] < SMP> ahhh, ftp.stardiv.de ist besser
[00:04] < SMP> 1,5MB/s. nett
[00:06] < rxr> tsa: da gibt es ja schon 3.1p1 - ist der stable?
[00:07] < SMP> der 642 installer scheint zu funktionieren
[00:08] < huebi> rxr: Jo, stable
[00:08] < huebi> SMP: und OO_642 auch. ;-)
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[00:15] < SMP> argl
[00:16] < SMP> OopenOffice.org 642 saugt auf ganz ungekannte Art
[00:17] < tsa> hm...
[00:17] < tsa> der build-prozess suckt IMHO gewaltig.
[00:17] < tsa> das resultat ist eigentlich ok.
[00:17] < tsa> der memory-footprint ist nicht wirklich besser als bei meinen staroffice 5.2 ..
[00:18] < rxr> SMP: wie saugt dein neuster download ?
[00:19] < SMP> BLEH!
[00:19] < SMP> dieses Unglaublich BESCHEUERTE Konzept mit der pro-user Installation
[00:21] < SMP> Kommerzieller Drecks-Wixx Muell (Mozilla, OpenOffice, Interbase etc.) wird nicht dadruch besser, dass man der Welt seinen Quellcode zumutet
[00:22] < rxr> SMP: ack ;-)
[00:22] < rxr> SMP: du hattest so einen genialen ausdruck fuer GNU Muell, wie war der doch gleich?
[00:22] < SMP> Gnu Dung
[00:23] < tsa> ROTFL.
[00:23] < rxr> hehe danke ;-)
[00:28] < SMP> drwxr-xr-x   2 stefanp  users        4096 May 16 00:15 file:
[00:28] < SMP> "ja, genau"
[00:29] < SMP> ja, das 642 laesst sich installieren und dann kann ich drin rumklicken
[00:30] < SMP> um mal bei den Tatsachen zu bleiben
[00:31] < rxr> SMP: schoen wie du sich ueber oo freust ...
[00:32] < SMP> ?
[00:33] < rxr> na das herrum klicken ...
[00:37] < kvak|uninvited> Interbase ?
[00:38] < SMP> ja.
[00:38] < kvak|uninvited> Interbase von Borland ?
[00:38] < SMP> ja.
[00:38] < kvak|uninvited> Hehehehe
[00:38] < kvak|uninvited> hohohoh
[00:38] < kvak|uninvited> Entschuldigung.
[00:38] < SMP> das wahrscheinlich peinlichste source release jemals.
[00:38] < SMP> direkt mit zwei backdoors im source
[00:38] < kvak|uninvited> Ja hab ich bei CERT gelesen.
[00:39] < kvak|uninvited> Ich hab vor 6 Monaten was für Interbase geschrieben...
[00:39] < SMP> 'fuer'?
[00:39] < kvak|uninvited> ...so lange dürfte das aber mit dem Source her sein, oder ?
[00:39] < SMP> das ist bestimmt schon 18 Monate her
[00:39] < kvak|uninvited> fuer -> ich meine in PHP fuer Interbase-RDBMS
[00:40] < kvak|uninvited> "fuer" ;-)
[00:40] < SMP> das sind ja gleich zwei Brechmittel auf einmal
[00:40] < kvak|uninvited> argh ! Der Kleine schreit deswegen bin ich etwas abwesend...
[00:40] < kvak|uninvited> ...PHP-dirty coders.
[00:40] < kvak|uninvited> ich weiss.
[00:40] < kvak|uninvited> weis(weiss, weiß)
[00:47] < rxr> n8
[00:47] < kvak|uninvited> So dala...was macht open office ?
[00:47] < kvak|uninvited> fertig ?
[00:48] < kvak|uninvited> hat das nun nen Mailer oder nicht ?
[00:50]   kvak|uninvited muss weg - Baby fuettern. Ciao zusammen und gute n8
[00:51] < huebi> n8 kvak|uninvited
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[00:58] < hackbard> i ll go to bed too, n8!
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[02:04] < holyolli> <-- goes to /dev/bed
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[02:41] < tsa> n8
[02:41] < tsa> cu tomorrow
[02:41] < tsa> erh.
[02:41] < tsa> today.
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[07:56] < huebi> moin
[08:14] < rxr> re
[08:15] < huebi> moin rene ;-)
[08:15] < rxr> hi huebi!
[08:16] < huebi> nachhern werde ich das linux und linuxsrc script fertig machen ;-)
[08:19] < huebi> last: /var/log/wtmp: No such file or directory <- braucht auch einen fix ;)
[08:23] < huebi> und wech...
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[09:21] < huebi> re Moep!
[09:27] < rxr> WoW. Ultra5 ist gerade angekommen ;-) *g*
[09:28] < huebi> rxr: Herzlichen Gluehstrumpf *g*
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[09:29] < huebi> hi d3iman
[09:29] < d3iman> buenos dias andreas
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[09:29] < huebi> ;-)
[09:32] < rxr> Und ich muss gleich zu sonet Physik Uebung - sight.
[09:35] < huebi> rxr: Viel Spass
[09:40] < rxr> huebi: den werde dann wohl jetzt noch weniger haben ... :-(
[09:40] < huebi> rxr: Macht dir Physik nicht so viel Spass?
[09:43] < rxr> nicht wenn ne Sun box zu Hause wartet ...
[09:44] < huebi> ;-))
[09:45] < rxr> huebi: Ripclaw wrote: "please remember that sun hardware is static sensitive."
[09:45] < rxr> Moren than normal elctronic stuff ?
[09:46] < huebi> rxr: That meens: Plug in the power cord before you oen it. Then it's groundet. ans switch of with the switch in it the power source.
[09:46] < huebi> s/oen/open/
[09:47] < huebi> rxr: No, not more. But more expensive!
[09:51] < rxr> ah ok ;-)
[09:51]   rxr searching for the root pwd ...
[09:56] < huebi> rxr: on Solaris? it's /
[10:01] < rxr> huebi: it war "roor" "" ;-)
[10:02] < rxr> s/war/was/
[10:02] < huebi> rxr: How did you find out?
[10:03] < rxr> after soem typos (always hit the / accidently because it is at the place where I normally hit "Enter") and some other tries I simply pressed return ...
[10:03] < rxr> and Woops I was in ;-)
[10:04] < huebi> ahh OK
[10:05] < rxr> huebi: hehe - but now I'll to some Gnome2 fix quickies - and prepare for this boring Physics practise :-(
[10:05] < huebi> hehe
[10:07] < rxr> huebi: really cool is that the box has more ram than Ripclaw wrote - 2x64MB instead of 2X32 MB ;-)
[10:07] < huebi> Yes. Thats kool
[10:08] < rxr> huebi: where do I enter the hostname, IP address and gateway in Slowlaris ?
[10:08] < huebi> I removed the floppy and built in 2x256MB from an Ultra 10
[10:09] < rxr> huebi: and is the 1.5.12 image you installed in your Ultra 20 online ?
[10:09] < rxr> s/in/on/
[10:09] < huebi> hmmm
[10:10] < huebi> https://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~veninga/rock/rock-sparc64-base-1.5.12.iso
[10:11] < huebi> And you need a splack or better suse 7.3 cd to boot
[10:11] < rxr> huebi: tnx wget running
[10:13] < rxr> but I need a 2nd HD then - the 4.x GB full after the insallation ...
[10:13] < rxr> can I simply add another IDE one - or will OPB or Solars make problems ?
[10:13] < huebi> ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/suse/suse/sparc64/7.3/iso/suse-sparc-7.3-CD1.iso
[10:14] < rxr> huebi: even more thanks - 2nd wget running ;-)
[10:15] < huebi> rxr: You can _replcae_ it. 2 on the same bus did not work. But we have not fully testet how to get more disks in the sun.
[10:18] < rxr> huebi: but then I'll loose slowlaris :-(
[10:18] < huebi> rxr: Do you really need it?
[10:22] < rxr> huebi: Another OS (ok kind off) to learn - play with ;-)
[10:22] < rxr> huebi: I can install rock on the 2nd partition (I hope Ripclaw left one free ...) and can build ROCK-1.7 into a NFS mount ...
[10:22] < rxr> And I can invest into a SCSI controler for SUNs later ;-)
[10:23] < huebi> SYM53c875 should work
[10:24] < th> a normal pci-scsi controller as it is used for intel-based machines?
[10:24] < huebi> exact
[10:24] < huebi> moin th
[10:24] < th> cool
[10:24] < rxr> huebi: ich haette hier anzubeiten:
[10:24] < rxr> LSI Logic / Symbios Logic (formerly NCR) 53c810 (rev 01)
[10:24] < th> moin alle
[10:24] < rxr> hi th
[10:25] < huebi> rxr:  53c810 with Rocklinux will work.
[10:25] < rxr> and an Adaptec AICTxxx Ultra one ...
[10:25] < rxr> uups AIC7xxx ...
[10:25] < rxr> (hm - but I have not a single SCSI disk ... sight ...)
[10:25] < huebi> don't know with solaris, but linux will work.
[10:26] < rxr> huebi: isn't the SUN PCI bus 5V ? - Ok the old PC one was, too (wasn't it)?
[10:26] < huebi> don't know
[10:28] < rxr> I do not want to destroy the U5 too soon ... ;-)
[10:29] < rxr> But with such "SUN unsupoprted" devices it might not be possible to boot from, right?
[10:29] < huebi> have alook at sunsolve.sun.de
[10:29] < rxr> So I'll leave the HW untouched for now and build into NFS
[10:30] < rxr> (might be even  faster than the SUN IDE crap ;-)
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[10:35] < huebi> hi capchaos
[10:35] < capchaos> morgen huebi, hi alle
[10:35] < huebi> rxr: You can also boot the U5 over network ;-)
[10:36] < rxr> huebi: btw. How do I get into the OBP to adjust settings ?
[10:43] < huebi> rxr: STOP-a
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[10:44] < th> or terminal on-off
[10:44] < th> ;)
[10:44] < th> aehm
[10:44] < th> off-on
[10:44] < huebi> BREAK
[10:44] < huebi> L1-A
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[10:44] < huebi> ;-)
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[10:49] < armijn> re
[10:52] < huebi> moin armijn
[10:52] < armijn> hi
[10:53] < armijn> I tested with a new kernel config
[10:53] < armijn> I will bring it soon
[10:53] < huebi> I did that too armijn
[10:54] < armijn> and?
[10:54] < huebi> I want to change linux and modules to linux (incl. modules) and linuxsrc
[10:54] < huebi> armijn: It worked.
[10:54] < armijn> well...
[10:55] < armijn> we should see what we exactly need...
[10:55] < huebi> in the moment the package linux is screwd up ;-(
[10:55] < armijn> why?
[10:55] < huebi> I messed it up and went to bed yesterday.
[10:55] < huebi> I undo it now ;-)
[10:55] < armijn> ah
[10:56] < armijn> anywayz, I got a working config for 2.4.17
[10:56] < armijn> it also booted
[10:56] < huebi> and I got one for 2.4.18-rc4
[10:56] < armijn> but I don't know which IDE, NIC and USB things I should include :(
[10:57] < huebi> I want to have it to boot with Netra X1
[10:57] < armijn> and PCI...
[10:57] < armijn> my Ultra has SCSI and SBus
[10:57] < huebi> btw fels is online again ;-)
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[10:58] < huebi> hi bluefire
[10:58] < bluefire> Moin
[10:58] < d3mian> hi bluefire
[10:58] < huebi> bluefire: do you come to the "Grillfest" of the DALUG?
[10:59] < huebi> Grillfest = barbeque
[10:59] < armijn> no shit.
[10:59] < huebi> armijn: ?
[10:59] < armijn> nvrmnd
[10:59]   armijn tired
[10:59] < armijn> tried to boot debian on PA-RISC yesterday, but it failed
[11:00] < bluefire> huebi: When is it?
[11:00] < bluefire> huebi: url?
[11:00] < huebi> bluefire: mom
[11:02] < huebi> bluefire: may I forward the mail to you?
[11:03] < bluefire> huebi: thx
[11:06] < huebi> ./scripts/Puzzle
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[11:10]   th is fuer mehr abwechslung beim spielen... ich will auch ein ./scripts/Mikado
[11:10] < huebi> ./scripts/q3a - that's more than sufficient ;-))
[11:11] < huebi> armijn: rxr will run 1.5
[11:11] < praenti|away> moin
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[11:11] < huebi> moin praenti
[11:11] < armijn> huebi: ok
[11:11] < huebi> rxr: Jan's image
[11:11] < armijn> huebi: so, we have to make sure that everything is up and running by then...
[11:12] < praenti> huebi: makefile.patch is updated
[11:12] < armijn> urgh.
[11:12] < armijn> there are so many things wrong with that image
[11:12] < huebi> armijn: Therefore I'm working on the new one. for
[11:13] < armijn> ok
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[11:14] < holyolli> moin
[11:14] < huebi> I want to have Rocklinux in the same stable version on all my computers. Just to make that clear ;-))
[11:14] < huebi> holyolli: MuhH!
[11:14] < huebi> hehe
[11:15] < holyolli> huebi: elch!
[11:15] < holyolli> ;)
[11:15] < holyolli> <-- mag lieber elche als kuehe ;-)
[11:15] < huebi> bbl. NEVER let a NT-Admin touch a ROCKlinux server !!!!
[11:15] < huebi> und wech...
[11:16] < holyolli> *lol*
[11:16] < holyolli> armijm?
[11:16] < armijn> hmm?
[11:17] < holyolli> in which way did you implement those sparc-patches yet?
[11:17] < armijn> ehr?
[11:17] < holyolli> when the patch is only applicable to sparc
[11:17] < armijn> waddayamena?
[11:17] < armijn> oh...
[11:17] < holyolli> *g*
[11:17] < armijn> check out CVS :)
[11:17] < holyolli> erm
[11:17] < armijn> or check ./base-config/lilo/lilo.conf
[11:18] < holyolli> ah
[11:18] < holyolli> *g*
[11:18] < rxr> ok I'm away. cu ...
[11:18] < holyolli> cu rxr
[11:19] < holyolli> *gnnnarrr* every browser crashes on the system...
[11:19] < armijn> use telnet
[11:20] < holyolli> hm. or i should use the right os...
[11:22] < holyolli> *hm* in lilo.conf there only skipping of the complete package...
[11:22] < armijn> holyolli: yeah, so?
[11:23] < holyolli> but i mean really patches, which only apply to the specific hardware (as written in your mail)
[11:23] < armijn> holyolli: I need to do that with ltrace and egcs64 anyway, so...
[11:23] < armijn> aah
[11:23] < armijn> in 1.7 you can name a patch "bla.patch.$ARCH"
[11:23] < armijn> but that is ugly
[11:23] < bluefire> huebi: Grillfests sounds good. :)
[11:23] < armijn> in 1.5 there's no such mechanism yet
[11:24] < holyolli> i know... there's also my problem regarding alpha... ;)
[11:25] < armijn> there should be a patch filter
[11:25] < armijn> clifford opposed to it once, but it's much cleaner
[11:25] < holyolli> and how should this filter work?
[11:26] < holyolli> (and why is this bla.patch.$ARCH ugly?)
[11:26] < armijn> holyolli: what if your patch has to be applied to all architectures except one?
[11:26] < armijn> imagine you've got 20 architectures
[11:26] < holyolli> hm...okay ;)
[11:26] < armijn> then you've got 20 - 1 pattches, all named differently, but which are the same
[11:26] < armijn> the filter works a bit like this
[11:27] < armijn> you got a file filterlist.$ARCH
[11:27] < armijn> in that list you name the patches which you want
[11:28] < holyolli> hm.
[11:31] < huebi> re
[11:31] < holyolli> re huebi
[11:31] < huebi> fscking again and again and again...
[11:31] < holyolli> bbl.
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[11:33] < huebi> armijn: a file filterlist.$ARCH <- That sound good
[11:33] < huebi> and allmost easy to implement.
[11:33] < huebi> brb
[11:33] < huebi> ;-)
[11:39] < huebi> re
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[11:42] < d3mian> hi ringo78
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[12:03] < praenti> huebi: libgd has a problem with libpng
[12:03] < huebi> praenti: welches?
[12:03] < praenti> huebi: there are missing two softlinks
[12:04] < huebi> praenti: can you fix that?
[12:04] < praenti> dist/usr/include/libpng12/png.h dist/usr/include/png.h
[12:04] < praenti> and same with pngconf.h
[12:04] < praenti> otherwise libgd doesnt find the header files
[12:04] < huebi> hmm.
[12:05] < praenti> huebi: i'm thinking about a way to fix that. one way is the profile for the chroot and the other in the paket itself
[12:06] < praenti> huebi: what would you prefer
[12:06] < praenti> huebi: mom. first way wouldnt work i think
[12:06] < huebi> praenti: ok
[12:06] < praenti> ok. i fix that
[12:06] < huebi> kool
[12:08] < praenti> huebi: what do i have to write in the *.conf when the script should do sth after building and installingt
[12:08] < praenti> postmake?
[12:08] < huebi> praenti: Yes, I think so
[12:08] < praenti> ok
[12:12] < praenti> and fixed
[12:13] < huebi> cvs ci ?
[12:13] < armijn> huebi: it's better to use "cvs commit" btw...
[12:13] < armijn> and use cvs update
[12:13] < huebi> armijn: why?
[12:14] < armijn> that way you can keep a local copy of the tree
[12:14] < armijn> which is much more fun
[12:14] < armijn> I do that on "ella"
[12:14]   armijn points huebi to the CVS book
[12:15]   huebi is looking to the left. Cederqvist is laying there...
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[12:17] -!- bruce is now known as armijn
[12:18] < armijn> heheh...
[12:18] < armijn> fun pestering aussies :)
[12:18] < huebi> armijn: What did you do?
[12:19] < armijn> oh, just teasing jeff...
[12:19] < armijn> he's aussie, and you know the monty python thing, right?
[12:19] < armijn> where everyone is called bruce
[12:19] < huebi> hehe
[12:35] < esden> hi all
[12:36] < d3mian> hola esden
[12:36] < huebi> hi esden
[12:36]   huebi is writing more Rocklinux documentation.
[12:38] < esden> hola d3mian i huebi
[12:44] < esden> huebi: what kind of documentation ? (url ?)
[12:44] < huebi> https://localhost/Rocklinux/Dateisystemreparatur_Rocklinux.html <- What to do if the NT-Admin switched it off.
[12:45] < esden> argh I hate stupid people !!!
[12:45] < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Rocklinux_installation_de.html <- My work from yesterday
[12:45] < huebi> esden: Stupidity is the normality.
[12:47] < huebi> esden: I load it up later..
[12:47] < esden> huebi: sure but I have a tolerance range for stupidity ... and even if the range is very wide some people are going above it ...
[12:48] < esden> leke the one who are writing to the mailinglist to unsubscribe and not to the mailinglist managment adress ...
[12:48] < d3mian> i was that man ;)
[12:48] < huebi> esden: Are you too stupid to widen your range of stupidity acseptance? ;-))
[12:48] < d3mian> im kidding
[12:48] < d3mian> :)
[12:49] < esden> d3mian: I hope that for you ;-)
[12:49] < huebi> s/s/c/
[12:50] < esden> huebi: no I am not to stupid to widen it .... but I am a to big hardliner to change it ..
[12:50] < esden> I know hardliner are also some kind of stupid ... ;-)
[12:51] < d3mian> my mailserver is not working, is there other way to take a glance to the rocklinux mailing list?
[12:51] < huebi> esden: The are some harder hardliners in Israel / Palestine. ;-))
[12:53] < huebi> I also hate stupidity, and it's really hard to arrage with it ;(
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[12:54] < esden> d3mian: https://www1.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/
[12:55] < esden> huebi: you see ...
[12:55] < d3mian> dependig of what u mean with stupidity, which is not the same that a lamb person
[12:55] < d3mian> thanks esden
[13:02] < d3mian> well, it's too early here, i need to go work now, culater
[13:04] < esden> huebi: autsh the installation howto is really good .... like for real lamers ;-)
[13:05] < esden> I could give it probbably my mother and she would manage to install rock ;-)
[13:05] < esden> cu d3mian
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[13:20] < huebi> esden: Thank you for the compliment ;-) It's intended to be for beginners. And now it's tested by a beginner and approved to be good
[13:20] < esden> with the beginner you mean me ? ;-)
[13:23] < huebi> esden: No! Not you. Sabine, I'm working with is involed in Linux since the beginning of march. That are only 10 weeks. And she just installed a server with this manual without my assistance. She says it's sufficiently for her needs.
[13:24]   huebi waits for the aspell plugin for irssi.
[13:25] < esden> huebi: me too ... :-(
[13:25] < huebi> hehe
[13:25] < huebi> Sabine really like UNIX. That's great!
[13:27]   huebi is away for lunch
[13:27] < esden> a femail beeing that likes UNIX cool
[13:29] < huebi> esden: Yes, it is!
[13:30] < huebi> esden: The second one here in this company...
[13:30] < huebi> und wech...
[13:31] < esden> huebi: guten appetitt
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[13:38] < ringo78> https://www.linuxchix.org
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[14:19] < esden> let us linuxchix use rocklinux !!!
[14:24] < huebi> re
[14:25] < esden> re huebi
[14:26] < capchaos> heh you a linuxchicks member, esden?
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[14:42] < capchaos> welcome back rxr
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[14:45] < capchaos> hi Lorini
[14:45] < Lorini> hi
[14:45] < capchaos> what takes you here? ;-)
[14:46] < Lorini> you :)
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[15:07] < esden> ahh I love brainf***
[15:08] < esden> this is the most beautiful language that I know !
[15:08] < capchaos> heheh
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[15:12] < esden> >+++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<+.---.------------.++++++++.+.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++.+++++++.+++.>++++++++++[<----------->-]<.----------
[15:12] < esden> and what does this mean ?
[15:12] < capchaos> what does it do?
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[15:16] < esden> try it here is the interpreter for brainfuck in ansi c :
[15:17] < esden> char m[9999],*n[99],*r=m,*p=m+5000,**s=n,d,c;main(){for(read(0,r,4000);c=*r;r++)c-']'||(d>1||(r=*p?*s:(--s,r)),!d||d--),c-'['||d++||(*++s=r),d||(*p+=c=='+',*p-=c=='-',p+=c=='>',p-=c=='<',c-'.'||write(2,p,1),c-','||read(2,p,1));}
[15:22] < capchaos> esden: hehehe, thats c00l
[15:26] < esden> capchaos: works ?
[15:26] < capchaos> yes!
[15:26] < esden> hehe
[15:26] < esden> do you want more code ?
[15:28] < capchaos> i'm surfing the brainfuck sites
[15:28] < capchaos> translate into brainfuck?
[15:28] < capchaos> how do you translate into brainfuck?
[15:28] < esden> >+++++++[<++++++++++++>-]<+++.++++++++++++++.>++++++[<----------->-]<---.>+++++[<+++++++++++++++>-]<+.+++.+++++++.>++++[<---->-]<-.>++++++[<----------->-]<---.>+++++[<++++++++++>-]<.---.------------.++++++++.+.>++++[<+++++++>-]<+.+++++.+++++++.+++.>+++++++[<------------>-]<---...>+++[<------->-]<--.----------
[15:29] < esden> I use a brainfuck assembler ;-)
[15:30] < esden> but I could also write it by hand ... writing text in bf is not difficult
[15:32] < esden> writing algorithms is difficult
[15:32] < capchaos> uuh, nasm is not installed
[15:32] < esden> https://koeln.ccc.de/projekte/brainfuck/
[15:33] < esden> not nasm but bfa is what you search for
[15:33] < esden> or ?
[15:33] < capchaos> the one i found uses nasm
[15:33] < capchaos> https://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/bf.asm.txt
[15:34] < capchaos> bfa = brainfuck-assembler
[15:34] < capchaos> first i need to compile the thingy
[15:34] < capchaos> ;9
[15:36] < esden> bfa compiles pseudo assembler to bf code
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[15:39] < esden> yo good topic ;-)
[15:40] < esden> ok I have to go
[15:40] < esden> cu all
[15:40] < capchaos> bye esden
[15:50] < rxr> re
[15:51] < rxr> super heute wo wir das Physik-Protokoll besonderst zusammengepfuscht habe, hat der Prof das doch echt mitgenommen - um es sich genau anzusehen ...
[15:51] < rxr> wir sind soo tot ... :-(
[15:57]   rxr starting to burn the sparc ISOs ;-)
[16:20] < rxr> huebi: How do I get into the OBP - or tell the box to boot from CD ?
[16:25] < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Dateisystemreparatur_Rocklinux.html <- Wieder was neues
[16:26] < huebi> rxr: STOP-a
[16:26] < SMP> Moin
[16:26] < huebi> rxr: Stop-Taste und dann gleichzeitig a-Taste betaetigen.
[16:27] < huebi> Moin SMP ;-))
[16:27] < rxr> huebi: tnx -> I test it ;-)
[16:28] < rxr> huebi: btw is there a way to reboot the box? it allways powers-off on shutdown ...
[16:28] < huebi> init 6
[16:28] < huebi> init 5 powers off
[16:28] < rxr> ah
[16:28] < huebi> and, if you're in the OK-Prompt
[16:28] < huebi> set-defaults
[16:29] < huebi> to reset the OBP to defaults
[16:30] < huebi> setenv diag-level min
[16:30] < huebi> * Um die Zeit fuer den Selbsttest im POST nach einem Reset deutlich zu verkuerzen, wird die NVRAM-Variable diag-level auf min gesetzt.
[16:30] < huebi> * Nun wird die Diagnosefunktion der Open Boot Promts und die Ausgabe auf das Terminal auf ein Minimum beschraenkt.
[16:30] < huebi> setenv diag-switch? false
[16:31] < rxr> huebi: und wie boote ich die suxe CD ?
[16:31] < huebi> und von CD-ROM gebootet
[16:31] < huebi> boot cdrom
[16:31] < rxr> danke ;-)
[16:31] < rxr> hasst du ne URL fuer nen Manual ?
[16:31] < huebi> im SILO Prompt rescue eingeben
[16:31] < huebi> SILO: rescue [RETURN]
[16:33] < rxr> huebi: hehe - das habe ich ausnahmsweise selber herrausgefunden ;-)
[16:33] < rxr> linux rennt ;-)
[16:34] < huebi> Sehr geehrter Herr Rebe. Wir freuen uns Ihnen mitteilen zu koennen, dass der einwoechige SUN OBP-Kurs sie nur 3500 EUR kosten wird. Gerne erwarten wir Ihre verbindliche Bestellung eines unserer OBP-Kurse *GGG*
[16:34] < huebi> MfgG SUN
[16:34] < rxr> Oh. Schoen. Freu.
[16:35]   rxr Anmeldungskarte ausfuellen *g*
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[16:35] < rxr> huebi: there is no doc online ?
[16:35] < huebi> rxr: mom
[16:36] < clifford> new channel topic... who is the brainf*ck artist?
[16:36] < capchaos> esden
[16:36] < clifford> hi, btw. :-)
[16:37] < capchaos> hi cliff
[16:37] < clifford> what does it do?
[16:37] < rxr> hi clifford
[16:37] < capchaos> clifford: try it out ;)
[16:38] < clifford> rxr: Hi. gestern ist mir ein ziemlicher knoten im kopf aufgegangen. Ich hab' versucht das ganze zu dokumentieren - aber bis jetzt entspricht das dukumentierte nicht wirklich meiner idee ..
[16:38] < clifford> www.clifford.at/priv/gsmp.txt
[16:38] < rxr> argh ripclaw is a clown - I said he will leave a partition free for linux - but now slowlaris is spread over the whole disk *argh*
[16:38] < clifford> lies dir mal durch und sag mir was du darueber denkst.
[16:39] < rxr> clifford: mach ich (spaeter)
[16:40] < rxr> muss gleich mal 1.7 wieter fixen, linux auf meine neue Sparc bekommen UND den Rolling ROCK text schreiben ...
[16:40] < rxr> wieviele texte sind schon bei dir eingegangen ?
[16:41] < rxr> huebi: should I wipe all slowlaris partitions ?
[16:41] < rxr> huebi: can I simply copy all files to a NFS server and reuse this backup to reinstall Slowlaris (or to they sone tricks to prevent this ?)
[16:42] < huebi> Ich habe gerade ein neues Angebot fuer die SUN JavaStation-10, auch "Krups" oder "Tower" mit 64MB RAM und 8MB Flash bekommen: 116 EUR incl MwSt + Versand.
[16:42] < huebi> rxr: mom
[16:45] < huebi> Hat noch jemand Interesse and einer "Kaffeemaschine?"
[16:45] < th_> hmmm
[16:45] < th_> eigentlich schon
[16:45] < th_> is das flash bootable?
[16:45] < huebi> So weit ich weiss, ja
[16:45] < huebi> www.ultralinux.org
[16:46] < th_> also eine nehm ich auf jeden fall...
[16:46] < th_> wird's in 5 monaten immernoch die chance geben?
[16:47] < th_> wo waren die bilder, damit ich nochmal zuordnen kann welche die krups war?
[16:47] < huebi> th_: 10 Stueck konnten die mir nicht verkaufen ;(
[16:48] < th_> aua
[16:48] < huebi> https://www.idsa.org/whatis/seewhat/idea98/winners/javastation.htm
[16:49] < huebi> https://dubinski-family.org/~jshowto/doc/html/single/JavaStation-HOWTO.html#KrupsDescSection
[16:49] < rxr> huebi: wolltest du dich noch zu dem wie sichere ich slowlaris auslassen ;-) *draengel*
[16:50] < huebi> rxr: rm -rf /* <- Macht immer schnell viel Platz. moment
[16:52] < huebi> https://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/sparcdownload.html <- Kost' nix!
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[16:53] < huebi> hi kvak|uninvited
[16:53] < kvak|uninvited> oh hi, nice topic ;-)
[16:53] < huebi> kvak|uninvited: Noch gut gesclafen, gestern?
[16:53] < huebi> kvak|uninvited: Pure brainfuck assembler
[16:53] < kvak|uninvited> Hmmm bis auf zwei kleine Unterbrechungen um 2:30 und um 5:10 schon ;-)
[16:54] < rxr> huebi: you meatn simply destroy the slowlaris partiion and maybe reinstall it later ? ;-)
[16:54] < huebi> rxr: EXACT.
[16:54] < rxr> ok
[16:55] < rxr> me removing all partitions ...
[16:57] < huebi> rxr: Sparcs have slices, no partitions
[16:58] < kvak|uninvited> bsd-like
[16:59] < rxr> huebi: fdisk tells me that it is recommended to have the thred slice cover the whole disk
[16:59] < rxr> huebi: is this necessary for Linux on the box ?
[16:59] < huebi> rxr: Jo.
[16:59] < rxr> huebi: for linux?
[16:59] < huebi> jo
[16:59] < rxr> why?
[16:59] < huebi> hehe
[16:59] < huebi> mom
[17:00] < kvak|uninvited> niahaha
[17:00]   rxr will have much fun during this Sun boot frickling ...
[17:02] < huebi> rxr: Sparc is different. You have at maximum 8 slices. the 3rd is allways over the whole disk
[17:03] < rxr> argh!
[17:03] < rxr> and now fdisk tells me the 1st shouldn't be Linux swap ...
[17:03] < huebi> rxr: the 3rd is called backup ;-)
[17:03] < rxr> whta f**k is this ?!?!?
[17:03] < huebi> rxr: exact!
[17:04] < huebi> rxr: THIS IS NOT A FUCKED UP PC!!!
[17:04] < rxr> huebi: Do the SUN peoeple consume beer the whole day?
[17:04] < rxr> huebi: is there a special requirement for the boot slice ?
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[17:04] < rxr> huebi: no IT IS A FUCKED UP SUN ;-)
[17:06] < kvak|uninvited> *applause*
[17:06] < huebi> r`*LOOL*
[17:06] < kvak|uninvited> hihi. und das am fruehen nachmittag ;-)
[17:06] < huebi> rxr: *LOOL*
[17:07] < rxr> huebi: so some hacks needed for the boot slice ?
[17:07] < rxr> and what are the flags about? the 2nd has a U flag ... ???
[17:08] < huebi> rxr: RTFM (Ich wollte schon immer mal so richtig arrogant sein.) Moment, Loesung kommt gleich.
[17:09] < rxr> huebi: give me TFM and I reda it ;-)
[17:10] < huebi> rxr: forget about the flags in the moment.
[17:13] < rxr> hm shit on the sus rescue is no bzip2 :-(
[17:16] < rxr> ok it is on the rock CD ...
[17:18] < huebi> 1st slice: /
[17:18] < huebi> 2nd slice: swap
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[17:19] < huebi> mucho swapo, 512MB about that.
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[17:19] < tommik> hello
[17:20] < huebi> hi tommik
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[17:23] < rxr> huebi: the SuSE tar SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS
[17:24] < rxr> I needed 20min to figure out how this fucked up beast wanna gets its parameters ...
[17:24] < rxr> stupid thing ...
[17:24]   th_ hands rxr a y/I/y/ regexp
[17:24] < rxr> huebi: I have 200MB swap . Shouldn't that be enough?
[17:25] < rxr> too much might slowdown the VirtualMemory system ... ?!?
[17:25] < huebi> rxr: For mozilla compiles should it be more
[17:25] < rxr> urgh
[17:25] < rxr> ok ok ok
[17:26] < huebi> rxr:  on my U30 I have 1G swap and 1216MB RAM
[17:28] < rxr> sure on my athlon I also have:Mem:        515972 Swap:       524624 ...
[17:28] < rxr> yes I knwo the SUN is RISC ... - and needs more ... ...
[17:29] < huebi> rxr: Please calm down. It's not worth to be angry. It's just an other, but nice box if you learned it. Sparcs are really fun.
[17:29] < rxr> huebi: ? I'm not up .. - I'm quite relaxed - watching the find ... -exec tar ... to deflate ROCK ;-)
[17:30] < huebi> nice.
[17:30] < huebi> SuXe is as different from Linux as Solaris.
[17:30] < rxr> but the partition scheme is really strange. Would be nice to see for what this hardcodings are ...
[17:30] < huebi> is
[17:31] < rxr> huebi: after deflating all the tars, what is needed to get OPB to boot silo and silo load the kernel image ?
[17:31] < rxr> huebi: is the ROCK kernel ok, or do I have to custom compile one even for the first boot ?
[17:32] < huebi> On IRIX the disk label is different again.
[17:32] < huebi> mom
[17:34] < huebi> flood:
[17:34] < huebi>
[17:34] < huebi> root@fels:~# cat /etc/silo.conf
[17:34] < huebi> # ripclaw silo.conf manually
[17:34] < huebi> #
[17:34] < huebi> timeout=80
[17:34] < huebi> partition=1
[17:34] < huebi> root=/dev/hda1
[17:34] < huebi> read-only
[17:34] < huebi> image=/boot/vmlinux
[17:34] < huebi>   label=linux
[17:34] < huebi>   append="devfs=compat root=/dev/hda1"
[17:34] < huebi> image=/boot/vmlinux
[17:34] < huebi>   label=rockway
[17:34] < huebi>   append="root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1"
[17:34] < huebi> root@fels:~#
[17:34] < huebi>
[17:34] < huebi> rxr: Thios one should work for you.
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[17:35] < hackbard> re
[17:35] < huebi> hackbard: also for you
[17:35] < huebi> hi hackbard
[17:35] < hackbard> ich muss esrtmal auspacken :)
[17:36] < hackbard> rxr: suse ?
[17:36] < hackbard> i cant scroll to the whole top of ur discussions :(
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[17:37] < praenti_> can anybody how i restart a stopped process?
[17:37] < praenti_> in bach
[17:37] < praenti_> s/bach/bash
[17:37] < praenti_> ...say
[17:38]   praenti_ hates siemens tstaturen
[17:38] < huebi> praenti_: fg
[17:39] < praenti_> the break is not on the normal position. so i stopped my irssi process and dont know how i can change the status
[17:40]   huebi geht mal neue Bremsen fuers Auto kaufen. CU
[17:41] < rxr> hackbard: only to boot the suse rescue system to deflate ROCK-1.5.12 ...
[17:41] < praenti_> argh. is niemand da oder hat noch niemand ein gestoppten prozess wieder aktiviert... *grml*
[17:41] < rxr> huebi: much fun!
[17:42] < rxr> praenti_: kill CONT <PID> ???
[17:42] < rxr> oder fg (when stopped with bash ...)
[17:43] < rxr> oder bg ...
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[17:43] < praenti> ok.
[17:46] < hackbard> rxr: i have cross build the minimal sparc root yesterday - i just need a nfsroot, dhcp, rarp supporting kernel know and hope to be able to boot it over net ..
[17:47] < hackbard> an alternative nfsroot might be jans iso image i downloaded some time ago for the java
[17:47] < hackbard> but i think i ll check out solaris first .. :)
[17:48] < rxr> hackbard: ok - but I have no dhcp, ... server running - so this would be some mroe tinkering until tis would be ready ...
[17:48] < rxr> hackbard: or this ;-)
[17:48] < rxr> (^-outchcking solaris ...)
[17:49] < hackbard> hehe, ich meinet damit "mal anschauen" :)
[17:52] < rxr> hackbard: but slowlaris wasn't that interesting. X11 sucked and C C++ compiler where missing ...
[17:52] < rxr> so a runnin ROCK would be magnitudes more useable ;-)
[17:54] < hackbard> sure, solaris wont survive that long :)
[17:55] < hackbard> well, at least i hope
[17:55] < hackbard> but there is coming a frind to me in a few hours who is solaris and aix admin and i wanted him to introduce me a bit to solaris stuff
[17:57] < hackbard> rxr: do you have his kontonummer printed somewhere? i want to send him the money ow ..
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[18:00] < armijn> re
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[18:03] < rxr> hackbard_: hehe - you are right - it is missing ...
[18:04] < hackbard> rxr: does this mean he doesnt want an money? :) *jk
[18:05] < armijn> nice topic here
[18:05] < hackbard> hi armijn
[18:05] < th_> can't find that topic interesting
[18:06] < armijn> same here
[18:06] < hackbard> armijn: the sparc from ripclaw finaly arrived
[18:06] < armijn> hmm...what's missing??
[18:06] < hackbard> nothing i hope :)
[18:06] < armijn> and @ rxr?
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[18:10] < rxr> armijn: no the SPARC is fine
[18:10] < esden> re hi al
[18:10] < armijn> rxr: it's an ultrasparc, no sparc :)
[18:10] < rxr> hackbard: would be nice if this indicates the money should stay on our side ;-)
[18:11] < rxr> armijn: sure ... - if you wanna write me the full name everytime ;-) I'll do so ;-)
[18:11] < armijn> just write sparc64
[18:11] < armijn> or sparcv9
[18:12] < rxr> ups I know it is v9 ;-) I allready read through the CPU instructions ;-) ...
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[18:25] < blindcoder> hi everyone
[18:26] < blindcoder> esden: you can have your S3Virge back
[18:31] < rxr> hackbard: deflating ROCK: 29min
[18:32] < rxr> 1.7 GB ...
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[18:36] < holyolli> ugh...that a topic...
[18:36] < holyolli> re
[18:37] < armijn> yeah, horrible
[18:38] < hackbard> rxr: cool! - i am still looking for more power supplies and patch cables ..
[18:40] < hackbard> wow, the disk is loud!
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[18:41] < rxr> hackbard: i think it is the font fan which is loud
[18:42] < holyolli> ah..your suns have arrived...or should i say raised? ;-)
[18:42] < rxr> hackbard: the U5 also generate mouch higher frequency noise than my Athlon XP - this really suck for sleeping in the same room....
[18:42] < armijn> hehehe
[18:43] < rxr> huebi: armijn: what is needed to get OPB load silo ?
[18:43] < rxr> huebi: armijn: is there a online OPB command overview ? ;-)
[18:44] < hackbard> rxr: the disk here is more noisy then the fan ...
[18:44] < armijn> rxr: run silo
[18:45] < hackbard> yes armijn, pls stay here the next days ;)
[18:45] < armijn> rxr: go into silo (stop-a) and try "help"
[18:45] < armijn> hackbard: no way
[18:45] < armijn> :)
[18:45] < hackbard> hehe
[18:46] < armijn> sorry
[18:46] < rxr> what was the name of the "create-dev-nodes-in-/dev" script ??
[18:47] < armijn> whu?
[18:47] < armijn> where?
[18:47] < armijn> you mean MAKENOD?
[18:47] < armijn> or MKNOD?
[18:48] < rxr> I do not mean the mknod command
[18:48] < rxr> but mom - still hacking ...
[18:49] < armijn> I can advise you to take Debian instead of Jan's image...
[18:49] < armijn> *lots* of stuff needs to be fixed in Jan's image first before you can actually start building
[18:49] < armijn> a *lot*
[18:49] < armijn> are you guys going to use Jan's image?
[18:51] < armijn> might be better to use Debian, or wait for a new image from huebi
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[18:53] < armijn> rxr, hackbard: if you want the easy ride, install Debian on it
[18:54] < armijn> if you want to waste a lot of time, you should use the current rock image :)
[18:54] < hackbard> hehe
[18:55] < hackbard> i cross buiodl a minimal root yesterday
[18:55] < hackbard> dietlibc(we dont care), gcc3 (maybe not good) and time failed
[18:56] < armijn> hackbard: forget about gcc3 for now
[18:56] < hackbard> i wanted (eg you) to build a kernel supporting nfsroot and all that dhcp and rarp stuff, so i amable to boot it like the java thew first time
[18:56] < hackbard> and then extract jans iso image ...
[18:56] < armijn> ehr, go for Debian.
[18:56] < hackbard> hmm, rxr, what rock version did you extract?
[18:56] < armijn> I will try to do some more stuff on huebi's machine next week, add missing packages
[18:57] < hackbard> cool
[18:57] < hackbard> anyways, could build that krnel for me? :)
[18:57] < hackbard> + you
[18:57] < armijn> I guess...but not now :)
[18:58] < hackbard> cool, thnx
[18:58] < hackbard> dont enable NBD support ;)
[18:58] < hackbard> hehe
[18:59] < rxr> YEAH
[18:59] < rxr> ROCK-1.5.12 up and running ;-)
[19:00] < hackbard> rxr: what image?
[19:00] < hackbard> go build akernel for me :p
[19:00] < hackbard> hehe
[19:00] < armijn> rxr: you will need to build a new compiler first
[19:00] < armijn> rxr: download egcs64
[19:00] < armijn> rxr: unpack it, patch it
[19:01] < armijn> rxr: configure it (prefix==/usr/local !!!) and build and install it
[19:01] < rxr> hackbard: armijn the one huebi told me:
[19:01] < rxr> https://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~veninga/rock/rock-sparc64-base-1.5.12.iso
[19:01] < armijn> rxr: yeah, I know...lots of stuff wrong with it
[19:01] < rxr> armijn: what is that wrong with it? huebi's build compiled most base packages ...
[19:02] < armijn> rxr: gcc 2.95.3 is not good enough for the kernel
[19:02] < rxr> armijn: why is this compiler needed? Why does gcc-2.95.3 or some gcc3.xxx does not work for the kernel ?
[19:02] < hackbard> okay, that also includes the 64bit kernel i need to boot i think
[19:02]   hackbard downloading
[19:02] < armijn> gcc2.95.3 cannot generate good 64 bit sparc code
[19:02] < armijn> gcc 3 is not the official kernel compiler
[19:03] < rxr> armijn: I'll do some tests with them ;-)
[19:03] < armijn> rxr: no use
[19:03] < armijn> it will fail, definitely
[19:03] < armijn> I tried it
[19:06] < armijn> rxr: make a symlink called sparc64-linux-gcc to /opt/egcs64/bin/sparc64-unknown-linux-gcc
[19:06] < armijn> otherwise the kernel compile will fail
[19:06] < armijn> or rebuild egcs64 the way I do in the rock-1.5.14 (see CVS)
[19:07] < armijn> otherwise you will have a problem
[19:07] < armijn> ok, I'm off to the pub
[19:07] < armijn> cu
[19:07] < hackbard> armijn: have fun, later ..
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[19:13] < tsa> tag
[19:13] < holyolli> moin tsa.
[19:14] < tsa> cool topic.
[19:15] < tsa> holyolli: bringst du morgen broetchen mit?
[19:15] < tsa> (matthias hatte grad angerufen..)
[19:15] < holyolli> jo
[19:16] < holyolli> tsa: welcher matthias?
[19:16] < holyolli> tsa: kann ich machen
[19:16] < tsa> s.
[19:16] < holyolli> wieviele
[19:16] < holyolli> s?
[19:16] < tsa> weiss nich, denk dir was aus.
[19:16] < tsa> matthias s.
[19:21] < rxr> ok - I'm short off buying some foots. Cu in a few minutes
[19:21] < tsa> rxr: du kaufst dir Füssse?
[19:21]   tsa wundert sich.
[19:22] < rxr> foods ...
[19:22] < tsa> ah.
[19:22] < tsa> lol.
[19:23] < rxr> tsa: couldn't you enable your IRC spelling fixer *g*
[19:24]   rxr away ...
[19:25] < tsa> hehe
[19:25] < tsa> cu
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[19:36] < d3mian> ew
[19:37] < esden> urgh ...
[19:37] < esden> *yawn*
[19:40] < capchaos> go get some sleep esden ;)
[19:40] < d3mian> umm, icewm has released a new version
[19:40] < d3mian> hola
[19:40] < esden> capchaos: slee.... what ?
[19:40] < capchaos> gruess dich d3mian :)
[19:40] < d3mian> what is sleep?
[19:41] < capchaos> esden: the thingy similar, but not as powerful as caffein
[19:41] < esden> ahh ... now I guess what you mean ... the second thing you can do in the bed ;-)
[19:42] < capchaos> esden: heh, yes. but its existence is only a rumor..
[19:42] < d3mian> ;-)
[19:42] < esden> capchaos: sure ... that is why I could not remember what you mean ...
[19:43] < capchaos> ;)
[19:45] < d3mian> out the computer world, some strange people practices the "sleep" act in the bed, they are strange
[19:45] < capchaos> indeed
[19:45] < blindcoder> esden: as said efore, you can have your s3 savage back
[19:52] < esden> blindcoder: yes I have read that ... good thanks ;-)
[19:57] < rxr> re
[19:57] < rxr> esden: Hi!
[19:59] < huebi> re MoeP! hi
[20:08] < tsa> hi huebi
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[20:16] < d3mian> capchaos: dunno, but it is kool by now
[20:17] < capchaos> :)
[20:18] < capchaos> anyways i'll try to build drock 1.6 for i686, hope it works
[20:18] < d3mian> sth i hope is reiserfs and ext3 in kernel for rock install cd ...
[20:19] < capchaos> i have reiserfs running, its fine
[20:19]   capchaos compiled the kernel right after installing packages
[20:20] < esden> rxr: HI!
[20:20] < d3mian> dunt like ext2, and i think that i would like to mount a external partition with other system after install
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[20:20] < d3mian> drock has support for reiserfs, rock still not, i guess
[20:21] < capchaos> hum, maybe
[20:21] < capchaos> i did mkreiserfs in the install shell
[20:21] < d3mian> dunt know how big the kernel grows if reiserfs and ext3 support is added
[20:22] < rxr> dRock supoprts reiserfs and ext2/3 - even on the install-disk !!!
[20:22] < d3mian> yes capchaos
[20:22] < esden> hi huebi
[20:22] < martin_> hi all
[20:22] < huebi> hi esden
[20:22] < d3mian> sure rxr
[20:22] < capchaos> hello martin_
[20:22] < capchaos> rxr: fine! ;)
[20:22] < capchaos> rxr: you did a great job..
[20:22] < huebi> rxr, hackbard: https://de.sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=content/content9
[20:23] < d3mian> and why not reiserfs and ext3 is added to rock install kernel? too much space in kernel?
[20:23] < rxr> capchaos: As I wrote for the i686 build you need to modify the install-disk build scripts to make it fit on the disk
[20:23] < rxr> capchaos: or use another image to boot - but I guess I wrote this several times ;-)
[20:24] < rxr> huebi: Thanks!
[20:24] < rxr> hi martin_
[20:24] < capchaos> rxr: yes, i will consider this
[20:25] < rxr> martin_: I guess for the phisics stuff - we might get some serious talk in two weeks :-(
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[20:25] < esden> boys ... how do you like the current #rocklinux topic ?
[20:26] < d3mian> topic
[20:26] < capchaos> esden: nice!
[20:26] < capchaos> esden: its a brainfucked nice topic!
[20:26] < esden> capchaos: I know ... you were here as I set it ;-) ...
[20:26] < capchaos> ;-)
[20:26] < esden> capchaos: muahaha
[20:27] < esden> but I am wondering what others are thinking ...
[20:27] < esden> "kaltes klares wasser" *sing*
[20:27] < capchaos> maybe you should set the entrymsg to "Speak English or Brainfuck.."
[20:28] < esden> capchaos: good idea !!!
[20:28] < capchaos> esden: whats the song called again?
[20:28] < esden> Malaria_vs_ChicksOn_Speed_Kalt
[20:29] < esden> Malaria_vs_ChicksOn_Speed_Kaltes_Klares_Wasser
[20:29] < capchaos> ok
[20:29]   capchaos gone to audiogalaxy
[20:29] < esden> I have the mp3 here ...
[20:29] < martin_> ne ne rxr, wird schon nicht so schlimm.
[20:30] < rxr> woe - the Sun
[20:31] < rxr> 's network is up - and this sentence is now typed on it ;-)
[20:31] < esden> rxr: cool *cheer*
[20:32] < martin_> rxr: after logout from kde, my x-server did not start again.
[20:32] < martin_> rxr: May 16 19:53:30 tux gdm[1592]: gdm_slave_exec_script: Failed starting: /etc/gdm/PostSession//Default
[20:33] < rxr> but this american keylayout slows me slightly down ...
[20:33] < rxr> martin_: ?? what is this from ? Problems on your side ???
[20:35] < martin_> rxr: after logout from kde, I have only a black screen. but only rarely.
[20:36] < rxr> martin_: ah. This is not nice ...
[20:36] < rxr> but this would be a gdm problem
[20:36] < rxr> I
[20:37] < rxr> I'll update it to the latest version and try to get kdm to do s.th. usefull for 1.6.0
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[20:38] < rxr> (when I have some linebreaks in the middle of the line, this is because of the american enter key on the Sun keyborad ;-)
[20:40] < hackbard> huebi: thanks, added to bookmarks!
[20:41] < rxr> hackbard: I
[20:42] < rxr> 'll try to compile the kernel with gcc3.1
[20:42] < hackbard> cool
[20:42] < rxr> on the ultralinux page is written that the 2.96 and 3.x ones might/should work
[20:44] < hackbard> btw, how could you intsall rock, does sue have devfs kernel?
[20:44] < rxr> btw huebi is there no Virtual Terminal thing on Slowlaris? -> so only a X=Server running?
[20:48]   rxr gpm runnin ;-)
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[21:06] < snyke> hmm
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[21:06] < rxr> NFS up
[21:07] < rxr> cool the U5 has answers faster to ICMP echo requests during compiling gcc31 than an nearlz idle PII-450 ;-)
[21:13] < rxr> does anyone know how I get color into the screen running on a linux vt? When I resume this screen in a xterm i have a colored irrsi - if I resume it on a VT it is only b/w ... I also tried TERM=linux-c without success ...
[21:14] < rxr> ok TERM=xterm-new yields a colored screen - but is there a nicer way /
[21:14] < hackbard> rxr: did you succeed compiling ur kernel?
[21:14] < hackbard> sorry, dunno
[21:14] < d3mian> huebi: and any probs known in this one?
[21:14] < rxr> hackbard: I still compile gcc-3.1-20020510 ...
[21:14] < huebi> d3mian: no
[21:15] < d3mian> rxr: TERM='xterm-color'
[21:15] < d3mian> ok
[21:16] < rxr> hackbard: and the U5 might need some more minutes (hours?) to finish the gcc ...
[21:16] < d3mian> rxr: or start a bash --login if u have TERM set to 'linux'
[21:16] < hackbard> i ll try to buid the kernel on huebis machine then ..
[21:16] < d3mian> cu guys
[21:16] < hackbard> bye demian
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[21:18] < rxr> hackbard: I really need a kernel with the SUN font (or add some kernel parameter for the screen resolution) the framebuffer font is far too tiny ... ;-) but so far this is my only prob *g*
[21:19] < rxr> hackbard: 160x64 on a 17" screen ... - really hurts ...
[21:20] < hackbard> cool, in case i cant get it rocked in my way it would be nice if you could give me a step by step explanation of how you did things :)
[21:20] < hackbard> hehe, definetly
[21:22] < rxr> hackbard: ups feel free to tell me when you need some step by step help - so huebi does not have to tell it again :-)
[21:22] < rxr> huebi: Much thanks!
[21:22]   esden going to bitz ... brb
[21:33] < capaway> <offtopic> have i to update the broken URLs manually? </offtopic>
[21:34] < capaway> (in the scripts of dRock1.6rc3)
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[21:35] < kvak|uninvited> reee
[21:35] < capaway> hi kvak|uninvited
[21:36] < kvak|uninvited> test
[21:36] < rxr> capaway: erm zes
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[21:36] < rxr> capaway: are soo many broken?
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[21:37] < kvak|uninvited> ok
[21:37] < capaway> rxr: on the first gasp, yes
[21:38] < rxr> capaway: shouldn+t be too many mazbe 10-20 ?
[21:38] < huebi> hi kvak|uninvited ;-))
[21:38] < capaway> rxr: hum, what about a way of the scripts updateting the urls from some rock-site before they start downloading?
[21:38] < capaway> rxr: yes. not more..
[21:39] < rxr> capaway: what rock site +
[21:39] < capaway> rxr: only an idea
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[21:40] < rxr> the URLs needs  to be updated manually and in the other trees you can use ./scripts/UpdateSrc -all to rsznc to the latest snapshot :-)
[21:42] < capaway> in the other trees?
[21:43] < rxr> hm I need a bigger disk for the U5 - it is nearly impossible to build ROCK on such a tiny one ....
[21:43] < rxr> capaway: in the latest Clifford devel series at least
[21:43] < rxr> huebi's 1.5 can be updates from CVS ...
[21:44] < capaway> ah ok
[21:44] < capaway> rxr: so.. what if the builds finally do not fit on one disc.. is there a way to write 2 discs?
[21:49] < rxr> capaway: no the emulated floppt is allreadz 2.88 MB in size.
[21:49] < rxr> I would have to take a new look whether we could throw s.th. from the floppies, or you could also edit the linux kernel config before
[21:49] < rxr> the build. like disbling apm support or so ...
[21:49] < rxr> this would free the few kB that are missing for the bigger i686 binaries ...
[21:50] < capaway> ok
[21:54] < capaway> it is better to build the not-installation-relevant features afters installtion anyways
[22:03] < rxr> capaway: dRock is also intended for intermediate Linux users (not only pure hackes) - so our latest default kernel does normally not need to be modfied
[22:04] < rxr> capaway: And so APM for power-down is included ...
[22:04] < capaway> okay ;)
[22:05] < esden> https://developers.slashdot.org/developers/02/05/16/1631243.shtml?tid=106
[22:05] < esden> hmm ...
[22:05] < esden> ahh
[22:05] < esden> scroll ... >_<
[22:05] < capaway> rxr: <quote>Come back to this [documentation] file, when you find compiling the kernel less exciting than it used to be.</quote>
[22:06] < rxr> so a raid5 nfs share is now mounted on the sun to have space to compile ROCK ....
[22:09] < capaway> maybe ill throw out some packages hum
[22:09] < rxr> capaway:  ?
[22:10] < rxr> capaway: this does not gelp for the install disk ....
[22:10] < capaway> yes, just a second though..
[22:11] < capaway> s/though/thought
[22:13]   rxr searching for my 10GB IBM IDE disk ...
[22:17] < hackbard> rxr: are both of ur network cards recognized?
[22:17] < rxr> hackbard: oh I have only one ... ?
[22:19] < rxr> hackbard: just tested Stop A to get into the OPB running Linux
[22:19] < rxr> worked
[22:19] < hackbard> cool
[22:19] < rxr> although I do not know whether it is that save to do ...
[22:19] < hackbard> did ur gcc compiled succesfully?
[22:20] < rxr> no some C++ library problems
[22:20] < hackbard> i finaly compiled the ekrnel on huebis machine
[22:20] < rxr> I'll retry it (the 5th time) when I exchanged the hd and reinstalled it ...
[22:20] < rxr> I'll put a 10 GB IBM one into it
[22:20] < hackbard> though i had ro disable mount on boot at devfs option
[22:21] < hackbard> haha, cool
[22:21] < rxr> DTTA-351010
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[22:26] < rxr> the hardware in the sun is gettin quite warm ??? ...
[22:27] < huebi> rxr: Yes, high Perfomance ;-)
[22:28] < rxr> huebi: hehe
[22:28] < esden> have you seen the trailer of the new matrix ???
[22:28] < rxr> ok Sun IDE stuff is used in cable select mode, i see ?!?
[22:28] < huebi> esden: new matrix? *habenwill*
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[22:29] < esden> https://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer_qt.html
[22:29] < esden> you need quicktime to see it ...
[22:29] < esden> as of the trailer ... the film will be really cool ...
[22:29] < huebi> esden: How does this work on rock?
[22:30] < esden> no idea ... i fired up windows to see it ;-)
[22:30] < esden> matrix is worth such bad behaviour ... ;-)
[22:32] < huebi> esden: Never!
[22:33] < rxr> huebi: That is my view too ;-) hehe
[22:33] < huebi> hehe
[22:33] < huebi> esden <- WeichEi hehe
[22:33] < huebi> ;-)
[22:35]   huebi hat sogar eine WinSucks eNTe Lizenz
[22:36] < hackbard> how can i check whether a file is elf or a.out ?
[22:36] < huebi> esden: Can you convert it to mpeg?
[22:36] < huebi> esden: please
[22:36] < huebi> ;>>
[22:37] < rxr> is it save to power-off a Sun - when it doesn't want to enter OBP because it is in some waiting for ARP packages loop ????
[22:37] < martin_> gute Nacht rxr
[22:37] < martin_> good night all
[22:37] < rxr> cu martin_
[22:37] < rxr> martin_: halt
[22:37] < huebi> cu martin_
[22:37] < martin_> rxr: ??
[22:37] < rxr> martin_: habt ihr morgen Messtechnik oder unsere Gruppe ?
[22:37] < huebi> rxr: Yes, it's save.
[22:37] < rxr> huebi: tnx
[22:37] < rxr> martin_: ich vermute mal du hasst morgen, oder?
[22:37] < martin_> rxr: :-))   mom
[22:38] < huebi> setenv boot-device disk
[22:38] < rxr> martin_: mom? da musst du noch nachdenken ????
[22:38] < huebi> or so...
[22:38] < martin_> Ja, morgen habe ich messtechnik, du _programmieren_
[22:38] < rxr> (ok ich weiss es ja auch nicht soo genau ...)
[22:38] < rxr> martin_: ??? glaubst du da findest du mich ??? *lach*
[22:38] < rxr> ok gute Nacht martin_ ;-)
[22:39] < martin_> rxr: du muss doch deinen leerbeauftragen kennenlernen und ein urteil zu bilden
[22:39] < martin_> zu koennen
[22:39] < rxr> naja ...
[22:39] < martin_> :)  cu
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[22:40] < esden> huebi: how can I convert it ... I do not have software for it ...
[22:41] < esden> huebi where can I get the software ...
[22:41] < huebi> Don't know.
[22:41] < esden> argh ... :-(
[22:43] < huebi> freshmeat
[22:43] < huebi> https://freshmeat.net/redir/xlv/17867/url_homepage/ ?
[22:43] < rxr> so kiste booted noch (von CD ...)
[22:43] < huebi> https://xlv.sourceforge.net/ <- die meine ich
[22:45] < rxr> huebi: hm the disk is recognized as hdb ...
[22:45] < rxr> although I jumpered it cable select as the original one was.
[22:46] < rxr> any idea? - maybe manual jumpering to master ?
[22:46] < huebi> rxr: ok> test-ide
[22:48] < rxr> the OBP doesn know about test-ide ...
[22:48] < rxr> i executed a test-all ...
[22:49] < huebi> ok> words
[22:50] < rxr> a help diag did not yieled any ide stuff
[22:50] < rxr> only test-scsi or so ...
[22:50] < huebi> .sifting
[22:52] < rxr> huebi: ?
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[22:53] < huebi> ok> .sifting
[22:53] < tsa> *gaehn*
[22:53] < huebi> zeigt dir an, was es so alles gibt.
[22:54]   esden converting the matrix trailer to divx ;-)
[22:54] < rxr> huebi: maybe probe-ide was the one needed ;-) Workds now, thanks ...
[22:54] < huebi> tsa <- does not use a JavaStation
[22:54] < rxr> esden: cool ;-)
[22:54] < huebi> esden: Url?
[22:54] < esden> *gg*
[22:54] < huebi> *MitDenHofenScarr*
[22:54] < esden> huebi: I am converting I am not ready with it ...
[22:55] < rxr> .shifting ?
[22:55] < rxr> doesn't do anything usefull
[22:55] < huebi> ok> .sifting
[22:55] < rxr> huebi: I start to like the OBP ;-)
[22:55] < huebi> rxr: Yes, It's really kool
[22:56] < huebi> rxr: Do you know forth?
[22:56] < huebi> You can programm new hardware drivers and put them into OBP
[22:56] < huebi> also in forth
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[22:58] < tsa_> re.
[22:58] < tsa_> scheisse.
[22:58] < rxr> huebi: not really (only heard of it and read some baiscs some time ago ...)
[22:58] < tsa_> sicherung rausgeflogen..
[22:58] < rxr> huebi: the fdisk s -> sun-disk-label
[22:58] < rxr> confuses me
[22:58] < rxr> the ? for autodetect doesn't do anything
[22:58] < tsa_> ah...
[22:58] < tsa_> the u5 did arrive, i guess..
[22:58] < rxr> should I use 0 for custom ?
[22:58] < tsa_> scsi or ide disk?
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[22:59] < rxr> tsa_: I replaced the 4GB IDE with a 10GB IDE IBM disk ;-)
[23:00] < tsa> rxr: ah, i see..does it work?
[23:00] < tsa> i
[23:00] < d3mian> re
[23:00] < tsa> i've had problems with an ibm disc on my u10
[23:00] < huebi> hi de
[23:00] < huebi> hi d3mian
[23:01] < tsa> the disc wasn't always recognized by the OBP..
[23:01] < rxr> tsa: hm so far it seems ok
[23:01] < rxr> the fisk custom option doe request really low-level disk geometry defaults ...
[23:02] < rxr> as far as I can verify the defaults seem to be ok ...
[23:02] < rxr> huebi: ?
[23:02] < huebi> rxr: hmm?
[23:03] < rxr> huebi:  ;-) ok I simply test it ;-)
[23:04] < tsa> rxr: which ibm disc is it?
[23:04] < huebi> tsa: the broken one ;-))
[23:04]   tsa had the problems with an dtta-351010, 10gb ide
[23:05] < tsa> it was terrible slow, too..
[23:05] < tsa> never found out what actually caused the problem, but after replacing the disc with a seagate 10gb ide, everthing was fine.
[23:05] < huebi> Siegeht ist vielleicht besser?
[23:05] < huebi> :-)
[23:06] < tsa> huebi: mag sein, auch wenn das irgendwie unlogisch erscheint..
[23:06] < huebi> Firmwareproblem ;(
[23:06] < tsa> gut moeglich..
[23:07] < tsa> einfacher test: "format" sollte die platte auf anhieb ohne probleme erkennen..
[23:09] < rxr> tsa: oh exactly this disk ... ;-)
[23:10] < rxr> tsa: format in OPB ??
[23:10] < rxr> err OBP ...
[23:10] < rxr> what does this format do ?
[23:11]   rxr deflate started ...
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[23:11] < rxr> tsa: so far the tar -x ... runs reasonable fast ... ;-)
[23:11]   esden installed virtual dub ...
[23:12] < tsa> rxr: already running linux or playing around with solaris?
[23:14] < huebi> rxr: format = writing a disk label
[23:14] < rxr> I wanted to keep solaris - but sine the disk was that small I deleted it ... - but sine I now have some more space I might reinstall it ...
[23:14] < rxr> fdisk also seems to be able to do this? correct
[23:15] < tsa> ah, i see.
[23:15] < tsa> i've never tried installing linux on the u10..
[23:15] < rxr> tsa: hm
[23:15] < tsa> i might do, but just for a short time..
[23:15] < rxr> tsa: where do I enter the IP adress and the gateway DNS config in a allready installed Solaris?
[23:16] < tsa> rxr: gateway: /etc/defaultrouter
[23:17] < tsa> ip address: /etc/hostname.<interface> has to contain the host name. then put hostname and ip address in /etc/hosts
[23:18] < d3mian> does solaris works fine for PCs (intel)? i know the power in Sun hw, but dunno about pcs
[23:18] < tsa> dns information goes to /etc/resolv.con, as usual..
[23:18] < rxr> d3mian: linux seems to run faster than solaris ...
[23:18] < rxr> tsa: ah thanks ;-)
[23:19] < d3mian> thanx rene
[23:20] < tsa> d3mian: depends...there's a HCL (hardware compability list) for solaris on x86 available somewhere..
[23:20] < huebi> d3mian: If you have more than 4 CPU's Solaris scales better than Linux
[23:20] < tsa> but solaris for x86 is no longer available for free from the sun website, so you'll have to buy it.
[23:20] < tsa> it's about $45, AFAIK
[23:20] < d3mian> well, i have it now @ home
[23:21] < d3mian> the isos
[23:21] < huebi> tsa: Exact
[23:21] < tsa> ah, ok
[23:21] < d3mian> for solaris 8
[23:21] < tsa> i have it somewhere here, too..
[23:22] < rxr> huebi: the scaleability has been fixed mostly with the new 0/(1) scehduler ;-)
[23:23] < huebi> Is Linux now faster on E12K than Solaris9? That's the only question I have ;-))
[23:23] < tsa> huebi: i doubt that....
[23:23] < huebi> tsa: me too
[23:23] < tsa> i wouldn't consider using linux on large sun systems. linux doesn't scale very good, IMHO.
[23:24] < huebi> Linux is very Intel orientated
[23:24] < tsa> it's ok for workstations and small stuff, it might run on sun workstations, but i wouldn't recommend running on big sun stuff..
[23:24] < huebi> N8
[23:24] < tsa> huebi: yes i know. the world is very intel-orentated.
[23:24] < tsa> +i
[23:24] < tsa> n8 huebi
[23:25] < d3mian> ill try it for a while in my pc
[23:25] < d3mian> guten nacht huebi
[23:28] < hackbard> lol
[23:28] < hackbard> OBP rulez
[23:29] < hackbard> linux kernel booted - still have to find out how to give nfsroot :)
[23:29] < tsa> hehe
[23:30] < esden> autsch conversion 50% ... 250MB data ... that is plain not divx ...
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[23:39] < rxr> tsa: hm untaring to the new disk took exactly as long as id did before ... ;_)
[23:40] < tsa> hm..ok
[23:41] < tsa> btw....how fast are the u5 and how much of ram do they have?
[23:41] < tsa> 300mhz / 128mb ?
[23:47] < tsa> hm...rxr: currently working on sf cvs?
[23:50] < d3mian> i go home for trying install rock 1.5.13 on ext3, cu
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[23:57] < esden> here is the url ... I found : https://www.jimmyhack.net/MATRIX_SVCD_JH.rar
[23:57] < esden> but I can not extract the rar :-(
[23:57] < esden> please someone test ...
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Fri May 17 00:00:17 2002