--- Log opened Sat Jun 22 00:00:06 2002 --- Day changed Sat Jun 22 2002 00:00 < tsa> FLASH?? 00:01 < tsa> oh, no flash. 00:01 < tsa> anim gif 00:01 < Mike1> more samples? 00:01 < tsa> but - no links on that page? 00:02 < Mike1> we seriously need so new stuff 00:02 < huebi> hmm I don't know what happend to that site. I send her a mail. 00:03 < esden> I do not have problems with flash 00:03 < Mike1> anyone saw Praentis mail? 00:03 < esden> i even like flash if it is made good 00:03 < Mike1> he sent a mail to rock-doc-pr regarding the website desig 00:03 < esden> it works under linux so where is the problem ? 00:04 < Mike1> +n 00:04 < esden> Mike1: yes I saw it 00:04 < Mike1> Logos didnt look that bad 00:04 < esden> hmm i think that the logos are not bad 00:05 < huebi> https://www.frontsite.de/ <- Karen, a good friend, made this. Very good site desigen for a bad company. 00:05 < huebi> -e 00:05 < esden> but some people here (Benjamin Schieder for example) did not like it 00:05 < Mike1> I know we are all sysadmins and not designers but somehow maybe there could be a contest or something to make a new logo 00:06 < huebi> esden: It is normally not done with a logo. It should be a complete design. 00:06 < huebi> https://www.frontsite.de/ did cost about 15.000 to 20.000 EUR 00:07 < esden> huebi: sure I know 00:07 < esden> I now wait for the complete desigt 00:07 < esden> n 00:07 < esden> then we can say more about it ... 00:07 < huebi> * esden gets older and older *g* 00:09 < huebi> We need a designer or a small design team for 2 or three designs. then we can all deside what we use, I suggest. 00:09 < Mike1> www.flashartist.de 00:09 < huebi> I ask Karen first. 00:09 < Mike1> https://www.flashartists.de * 00:10 < huebi> no flash in my mozilla ;( 00:10 < esden> huebi: so change this situation ... these are only two files you have to copy in your plugins directory 00:10 < huebi> esden: ? 00:11 * fake will not install flash 00:11 < esden> fake: why ? 00:11 < fake> two *binary 00:11 < Mike1> whats the deal with flash? 00:11 < huebi> esden: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload 00:11 < Mike1> it runs on linux i dont see whats wrong 00:11 < huebi> aber hurtig ;-))) 00:11 < fake> esden: whenever i did that my browser died 50% faster. 00:12 < tsa> flash is a good means to prevent people from surfing a website because it freezes the browser. 00:12 < fake> i consider that a bug, not a feature. 00:12 < huebi> fake: lynx is known for that problem... 00:12 < fake> huebi: ha-ha. 00:12 < huebi> error in linking aalib ;-))) 00:12 < huebi> *ROFL* 00:13 < Mike1> haha 00:14 * -> esden putting ... my connection at home is really full 00:15 < esden> fake: my browser never died till now ... 00:15 < huebi> esden: or give my just the URL 00:15 < esden> fake: you are surfing too many xxx and warez sites ... that are killing your browser ... ;-) 00:15 * fake back in 15 mins 00:17 < esden> huebi: it is up 00:19 < esden> huebi: copy ShockwaveFlash.class libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and restart your mozilla 00:19 < esden> then it should work 00:26 < esden> .. 00:31 < Mike1> ... 00:31 < huebi> https://www.kimble.org/cgi-bin/image <- This idiot can't even brake nor drive a fast car. Typical broken brake disks when they got too fast too hot. The holes are also very awfull. One crack through each hole! These disks a inline cooled so holes are a rael _must not_ . 00:32 < huebi> https://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010429-121819.jpg 00:32 < tsa> url broken. 00:32 < huebi> jup 00:34 * fake making coffee 00:34 < fake> who wants? 00:34 < huebi> https://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010430-153932.jpg <- same crapp again.. 00:34 * Mike1 needs coffee 00:35 < huebi> https://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010430-184356.jpg <- An Excalibur - just a bloated corvette 00:39 < Mike1> Ok guys i'm partying tonight so i will see you tomorrow 00:39 < Mike1> gut night you all 00:39 < esden> have fun Mike1 00:39 < esden> I have a party tomorrow 00:39 < Mike1> esden: thank i will *G 00:39 < huebi> cu mike 00:40 < huebi> have fun ;-) 00:40 < esden> nice girls alcohol ... ;-) 00:40 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:40 < esden> real fun 00:40 < esden> I hope verena will come tomorrow ... 00:40 < esden> *hope* 00:41 * fake Clawfinger - Nigger 00:41 * -> esden will test the gentoo installation on sunday 00:42 < esden> who is writing the tons of documentation they have ??? 00:42 < fake> und wieder an irgendnem scheissgehaeuse die finger aufgeritzt.... *argh* 00:43 < fake> *brodl* (die kaffeemaschine) 00:43 < esden> normal @ fake 00:44 < fake> i made it pitch-black-almost-sticky-coffee. hope that's fine with all of you ;) 00:45 < esden> yes that is ok @ fake 00:48 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802E7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 < esden> cu all 00:50 < fake> cu! 00:51 < fake> and what about ur coffee? 00:51 < fake> hm. more for me ;) 00:53 < lizard> hum what files do I need for Java in Mozilla ? 00:53 < fake> jre.xpi 00:53 < fake> just a sec 00:53 < huebi> cu esden 00:54 < lizard> fake: the installer didn't work 00:54 < fake> lizard: if u want to install it system-wide, open mozilla as root (and if the installer didn't work ;) 00:54 < fake> then it's installed as general plugin 00:54 < lizard> aaaah! 00:54 < lizard> sure... *nfc* 00:55 < fake> <- nsc 00:55 < lizard> phuck windows-behavior 00:56 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:57 -!- raz0raway [~SharpRaz0@pcp01758914pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 < fake> aaaw! coffee is ready! 01:06 < huebi> tsa: how does autocompletion work in tsh? 01:06 < tsa> tsh? 01:06 < tsa> no idea 01:07 < huebi> I mean the standard solaris shell. 01:07 < tsa> aah. /sbin/sh 01:07 < fake> huebi: pkg-add bash 01:07 < tsa> no completion. 01:07 < tsa> exec bash 01:07 < fake> www.sunfreeware.com 01:07 < tsa> and don't even think on changing root's shell. 01:08 < huebi> tsa Why? 01:08 < tsa> comp.unix.solaris is full of people who have done this and are now trying to get their root login back. 01:08 < huebi> I never did that but what exactly happens? 01:08 < huebi> hehe 01:09 < fake> solaris hast it's edges... 01:09 < fake> like hardwired lib pathes... 01:09 < fake> you can set LD_PRELOAD to whatever you want. if the library isn't in /usr/lib - nothing will work. 01:10 < fake> for, e.g. mount. 01:10 < fake> or cp. or mv. 01:10 < huebi> argh 3DES password hashes... 01:11 < tsa> fake: use rpath 01:12 < fake> tsa: too late. linuxified ;) 01:12 < tsa> the solaris linker is pretty cool, it allows different versions of the same library to co-exist on a system. 01:12 < tsa> _without_ using crappy LD_LIBRARY_PATH stuff 01:13 < fake> tsa: telepathy? 01:13 < tsa> hehe 01:13 < tsa> (btw...the linux ld will probably change to something similar..) 01:14 < fake> cool.... "This item has supercow powers." 01:16 < tsa> huebi: /sbin/sh is a static shell. doing major updates (libc stuff, ..) would be a pain in the ass without it. 01:17 < tsa> have /usr on an own partition, be unable to mount it. /usr/lib is gone, how login without /sbin/sh ..? 01:17 < tsa> ... 01:19 < tsa> https://www.cse.psu.edu/~groenvel/root-shell.html 01:23 < fake> cool. NWN installation seems to work this time. 01:25 < fake> hm... kaffee is was feines 01:28 < term_aweh> good night 01:28 -!- term_aweh [~pm@p50819728.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 01:37 < huebi> learned sth 01:38 < huebi> tip on Solaris needs an entry in /etc/remote 01:38 < huebi> a:\ 01:39 < huebi> :dv=/dev/ttya:br#9600 01:39 < huebi> tip a - and you can connect to a netra x1 01:41 < fake> *WUAHAHHAHAHHAAAAAAAA* 01:42 < fake> *ROOOOOFL* 01:42 < tsa> hm? 01:42 < fake> *abkack* 01:42 < tsa> sure it was coffee you made? 01:42 < fake> bei NWN Character Setup kannst du dein Voice Set auswaehlen 01:42 < fake> Male, Manic Psychotic 01:42 < tsa> hehe 01:42 < fake> Sample: WUAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH You won't have meeeeeeeeeeeeeehehehehehehBWUAHAHAHAHAHA 01:42 < tsa> hehe 01:42 < fake> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH 01:42 < fake> usw. 01:43 < tsa> make mp3's and spread them ;) 01:43 < fake> I SEE THEM! I can see them! The enemy is here!! *waaaaaaaH* 01:43 < fake> run . RUN! RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN! 01:44 < fake> Pious Scholar: "By my will: Attack!" 01:45 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802E7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:51 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:52 < fake> amazing gfx... 01:52 < netcrow> hi fake 01:53 < huebi> ERROR: Fail on address line, address = 0x0, index=0x40 01:53 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 01:53 < huebi> registered ECC memory is needed for the Netra-X1 02:05 < fake> ok... if you are looking for something to do while copiling - i suggest Neverwinter Nights (on your other PeeCee) 02:05 < fake> it's really... *uff* 02:21 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522F79.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:23 -!- raz0raway [~SharpRaz0@pcp01758914pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:42 < huebi> not so easy to get the Netra to boot silo 02:47 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B579a.pppool.de] has quit ("brain (n): apparatus with which we think that we think") 02:49 < tsa> n8 02:49 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BD59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:49 < huebi> n8 th 03:15 < fake> fascinating... 03:23 -!- shaolin_ [~shaolin@ool-435319d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:25 -!- shaolin_ [~shaolin@ool-435319d7.dyn.optonline.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 04:33 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD950252F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 04:33 < uninvited> Hola ! 04:39 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD950252F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving towards earth !") 05:41 < fake> ... 06:25 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.161] has quit ("power-off") 06:35 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-168-42.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:43 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-169-66.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:13 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@62.46.2.229] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:15 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@62.46.5.9] has joined #rocklinux 07:59 -!- simon- [~simon@p50875731.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:13 -!- simon [~simon@p508757CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:14 -!- simon- is now known as simon 08:53 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr 08:53 < rxr> re 09:20 < huebi> moin 09:20 < huebi> hi rxr ;-) 09:39 < rxr> moin huebi ! 09:39 < huebi> rxr: kannst du mir deine adresse geben? Ich will dir dein solaris 9 zuschicken. 09:40 < rxr> huebi: Oh! Vielen Dank! 09:40 < huebi> das ist sehr gut um grosse ide platten zu labeln ;-) 09:41 < rxr> wie? ;-) 09:41 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:43 < huebi> wenn diu eine neue, grosse, ungelabelte platte nimmst, und von der software 1/2 CD bootest, dann wird die platte automatisch mit einem passendem Label versehen. probiert mit 40GB SUN Platte von Ripclaw. 09:49 < rxr> hackbard: awake? 09:51 < rxr> hackbard: I forgot your family name - sorry. Maybe you could write esden to add you to the developers gallery? (So /me can find it for the next patch forwarded to clifford ;-) 09:59 < rxr> huebi: /me is away now ... - cu you later 10:00 < huebi> cu rxr 10:50 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD95225BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:50 < bluefire> Moin 10:50 < huebi> hi bluefire fire ;-) 10:53 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F75.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 11:00 < bluefire> Moin huebi. Already got something for bbq for tomorrow? 11:06 < huebi> oups. no 11:07 < huebi> I still have to go shopping 12:04 < esden> hi all 12:04 < esden> I need a faster cd burner !!! 12:56 < bluefire> Hi esden 12:56 < bluefire> esden: buy one. 13:23 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 13:36 < esden> bluefire: if it was so easy 13:36 < bluefire> esden: ain't it? 13:36 < bluefire> I think the current Plex burners are ok, no? 13:38 < esden> yes I think that it is ok 14:03 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819EDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 < term_emu> moin 14:08 < tomik> hi 14:31 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 14:52 < huebi> MoeP! 14:55 * huebi puts a new 80GB Maxtor HD in the U5 15:05 < huebi> ____ ___ _ _ ____ 15:05 < huebi> | _ \_ _| \ | |/ ___| 15:05 < huebi> | |_) | || \| | | _ 15:05 < huebi> | __/| || |\ | |_| |_ _ _ 15:05 < huebi> |_| |___|_| \_|\____(_|_|_) 15:05 < huebi> 15:06 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@62.46.5.9] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:06 < huebi> (hm. wohl alle von der Sonne gebacken...) 15:15 < tomik> huebi: :) 15:16 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M083P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD950252F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 15:17 < uninvited> Hello ! 15:22 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD950252F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving towards earth !") 15:33 < esden> huebi: ??? 15:50 < esden> cu all 16:23 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit ("you know, geeks are at their best late at night...") 17:08 < fake> *uargh* 17:08 < huebi> hi fake 17:08 < fake> morgen. 17:08 < huebi> fake: wieder Kohlrouladen? *g* 17:09 < huebi> ____ ___ _ _ ____ 17:09 < huebi> | _ \_ _| \ | |/ ___| 17:09 < huebi> | |_) | || \| | | _ 17:09 < huebi> | __/| || |\ | |_| |_ _ _ 17:09 < huebi> |_| |___|_| \_|\____(_|_|_) 17:09 < huebi> 17:09 < huebi> das war ebend ella 17:10 < huebi> spiel jetzt mit maus und tasytatur 17:10 < fake> ella? 17:13 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:13 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 17:15 < huebi> fake: jo. meine kleine Tochter. Ist jetz 13 Monate alt. 17:15 < huebi> +t 17:16 < fake> und die kann mit 13 monaten schon ascii art? l33t! 17:18 < huebi> *g* war noch im Buffer von der Maus. Und dann hat sie die mittlere Maustaste getroffen. 17:20 < fake> suess ;) 17:24 < huebi> jo. macht viel Spass, die kleine. 17:28 < fake> cannot you feel the hidden threat? my l33t sense never tingle wrong. 17:28 < fake> ph33r this one, piro. ph34r with great ph33r. 17:28 < fake> *lol* 17:29 < huebi> weia... 17:29 < fake> but if yer gonna mooch food of this chick, make sure she brings b33r next time.... 17:38 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD95225BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:17 < fake> paypal is most irritating. 18:23 < huebi> fake: jo. And there have been realms that transmissions sometimes fail and you loose your money. 18:26 < fake> huebi: is there a better alternative? no. 18:27 < huebi> fake: only more costly ones AFAIK 18:29 * fake feels like he might finyllay need to get a credit card. 18:29 < fake> i don't want one... 18:30 < huebi> fake: I also have none. But it seams to be a very common way to pay. 18:30 * huebi got this week some information about credit cards... 18:32 < fake> which information? 18:32 < fake> huebi: in U.S. credit cards are more common than cash, i know. 18:33 < huebi> What the cards cost, what is included... 18:33 < fake> but i also know my behaviour regarding the ability of getting money i don't have. 18:34 < huebi> needs some discipline.. 18:35 < fake> all my discipline is like blown away when i enter a store seling hardware 18:35 < fake> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/mips/ 18:36 < huebi> fake: get somebody to give you an account on ascii red. 18:36 < huebi> or something similar. 18:36 < fake> ha - ha. 18:36 < fake> Earth Simulator account. 18:36 < fake> i sumlate the ROCKs. 18:37 < huebi> fake: With 17 I had an account on an Amdahl and two IBM mainframes. 18:37 < fake> huebi: the difference is: you are l33t. i am l4m3. 18:38 < fake> you even have a l33t daughter! 18:38 < fake> ;) 18:38 < huebi> fake ____ _ _ _ _ ____ _ _ ___ _____ 18:38 < huebi> | __ )| | | | | | | / ___|| | | |_ _|_ _| 18:38 < huebi> | _ \| | | | | | | \___ \| |_| || | | | 18:38 < huebi> | |_) | |_| | |___| |___ ___) | _ || | | | 18:38 < huebi> |____/ \___/|_____|_____|____/|_| |_|___| |_| 18:38 < huebi> 18:39 < fake> #### #### 18:39 < fake> #### #### 18:39 < fake> ###################################################### 18:39 < fake> ###################################################### 18:39 < fake> ###################################################### 18:39 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Excess Flood) 18:39 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 < fake> *oops* 18:39 < huebi> It's the same as with ROCK Linux. Missing marketing... 18:40 < huebi> fake: *g* 18:40 < fake> you mean i am missing marketing? 18:41 < huebi> The famous fake ported ROCK on MIPS. Quick the red carpet.. But nobody knows that. 18:41 < huebi> fake: Do you _really_ want an account on a very fast and big machine? 18:43 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_ 18:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_ 18:43 < fake> huebi: what will it be good for? 18:44 < huebi> fun for you. Or what ever you want. 18:44 < fake> if it has a fast connection and i have a loose quota, i will be fine with that. 18:44 < huebi> fake: you should know that. 18:44 < fake> but... yes i think i'd like one 18:44 < fake> apollo is to restrictive in bandwidth 18:45 < fake> they look at every Gig 18:45 < fake> but i have sudo on apollo ;) 18:46 < huebi> A big advantage of just an account is that you can just use the machine. You do not have to think about all the other stuff arround it. 18:47 < fake> true... 18:47 < fake> yes, an acc on a sunfire would be really sw33t. 18:47 < fake> or s/th sim 18:48 < huebi> air condition, current, building, line costs, admins... you name it. All that is then not your problem. 18:48 < fake> huebi: alright, gimme one ;) 18:49 * huebi patching OBP on Ultra 5 to be a StarTiger 30K 18:49 < huebi> *g* 18:49 < fake> is tiger really the next one? 18:50 < huebi> Yes, of course. But even SUN still does not it at all. Top secret... 18:50 < huebi> <- bigest story teller in the world 18:51 < fake> hm... most interesting. if i apply the binutils patch for mips, gcc3 fails. if i don't apply it everything's fine. 18:51 < fake> error: lilbffi has not yet been portetd to mips-unkownk-linux-gnu 18:52 < huebi> fake: SGI Origin 3x00 ? 18:52 < fake> huebi: immer her damit *g* 18:53 < fake> eeeeetoo? since when does perl5 compile with gcc3? 18:54 < huebi> IIRC since a week 18:54 < fake> rene? 18:55 < huebi> IIRC clifford 18:56 < huebi> SGI SGI Origin 3200 1X 600MHz R14k 1 483 500 <- nice 18:56 < huebi> Advanced Micro Devic Epox 8KHA+ Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP 2100+ 1 720 749 <- nicer ;-) 18:56 < huebi> https://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/cpu2000.html 18:57 < huebi> IBM Corporation IBM eServer pSeries 690 Turbo (1300 MHz) 1 1202 1266 <- *habenwill* 18:58 * fake bekommt aus der arbeit nen HP 9000 geschenkt 18:58 < huebi> nett. Und wo stellst du den hin ? 18:59 < huebi> Sun Microsystems Sun Blade 1000 Model 1900 1 369 410 <- l4m3 ente ;-) 19:00 < fake> Ralf Bächle (ralf@gnu.org) and a team of SGI employees are currently working on a port to the Origin 200. While still in it's early stages, it's running in uniprocessor and multiprocessor mode and has drivers for the built-in IOC3 Ethernet and SCSI hostadapters. 19:00 < huebi> kool 19:01 < fake> *flenn* 19:01 < huebi> fake: kannst du da nicht einfach mitmachen? 19:05 < fake> huebi: ohne hardware? 19:05 < huebi> fake: Exact! 19:05 < huebi> SGI kann mal so einen account zur Verfuegung stellen 19:06 < huebi> ll 19:07 < fake> huebi: klar. oder mir so ne kiste schenken. oder 5. 19:07 < huebi> Warum willst du die selber haben? 19:08 < huebi> Lass SGI mit den Problemen doch alleine. Nur schoen benutzen, dann kostet es dich nichts. 19:09 < fake> huebi: klar! aber dann brauche ich 2 accounts. und sie muessen den reset-schalter an der origin an den LPT der anderen kiste loeten, damit ich ienen reset fahren kann wenn ich nen scheisskernel kompiliert habe. 19:10 < fake> und andere user duerfen auf der origin auch nicht drauf sein, weil ich die sonst regelmaessig mit reboots rauswerfe. 19:10 < fake> -> ich hab ne kiste fuer mich alleine -> wieso sollte die bei denen stehen und nicht bei mir? 19:10 < huebi> Dann 2 grosse Oktain 19:11 < fake> octains != linux IIRC 19:11 < fake> octane 19:11 < fake> du verwirrst mich ;P 19:12 < huebi> <- keine Ahnung vom MIPS ;-) 19:12 < huebi> fake = god of MIPS 19:12 < fake> huebi: lass uns realistisch bleiben. sun gibt dir auch keinen acc auf ner starcat nur weil du porten willst. 19:12 < fake> I AM NO GOD! 19:13 < fake> "Ich bin in einer finsteren sekte... die in mir die erkenntnis weckte... das unsere kurze daseinsfrist mehr spass macht wenn man boese ist... " 19:14 < huebi> SUN ist ein nicht besonders kundenorientiertes Unternehmen mit gewissen Qualitaetschemen, die nicht unbedingt die Kundenzufriedenheit foerdern. Um es mal ganz vorsichtig und diplomatisch zu umschreiben. 19:14 < fake> huebi: rate mal warum es bis jetzt nur FrameBuffer-unterstuetzung auf der indy mit 8-bit Grafikkarte gibt?! 19:16 < huebi> Diese Firmen haben, in Gegensatz zu IBM, noch nicht begriffen, dass Linux ein nicht zu unterschaetzender Markfaktor ist, der auch noch starke Zuwachsraten aufweist. 19:16 < fake> weil nur diese und _nur_ diese doku freiegenem wurde 19:16 < fake> huebi: IBM hat den Linux-Support fuer Thinkpads eingesetllt. 19:18 < huebi> Deshalb habe ich auch vom dem Kauf eines A30 fuer ueber 500 EUR Abstand genommen. hehe 19:18 < huebi> +0 19:18 < fake> A30? 19:19 < huebi> Irgend so ein Monster mit 1600x1200 1.3 GHz P3, 1GB RAM... 19:20 < fake> w00t. 19:20 < huebi> War im Dezember. Ich tendiere lieber zum Powerbook G4. Aber ich brauche eigendlich kein Notebook. 19:25 < fake> wie kein notebook brauchen - jeder brauch ein notebook ;) 19:25 < huebi> IBM ist mir zu bloed. 19:26 * fake still looking for a MIPS notebook 19:26 < fake> casiopeia hab ich scon ;) in der arbeit zumindest 19:26 < huebi> Die haben bei meiner letzten Anfrage ueber 6 wochen gebraucht, bis ein Angebot da war. 19:27 < fake> wer "die" ? 19:27 < huebi> VISA Card Gold scheint ueberall 66 EUR zu kosten. 19:27 < huebi> die = IBM 19:30 < fake> achso. 19:30 * huebi baut gerade eine neue .config fuer den sparc64 kernel zusammen. 19:30 < fake> wieso willst du den VisaCrd Gold? 19:31 < huebi> fake: billigere Hotels und Reise- und Auslandskrankenversicherung 19:32 < huebi> Und der Kreditrahmen hoert nicht schon bei 5000EUR auf. 19:33 < huebi> P4 im Notebook macht aus dem Ding ein Heizkraftwerk. 19:35 < fake> huebi: bist du so oft unterwegs dass isch das lohnt? 19:36 < huebi> Eigendlich nicht. Naja, ich ueberlege da noch ein bischen. 19:37 < huebi> https://www.apple.com/de/powerbook/specs.html <- hmm. ist schon ganz schoen verfuehrerrisch ;-) 19:38 < huebi> aber nur eine Maustaste. Da muss dann noch mal die CNC Fraes ran.. 19:38 < fake> hmhm... 19:39 < huebi> Schoene Seite. Ohne dieses eklige Marketinggeschwafel. 19:47 < huebi> Der Supportvertrag taugt aber nicht so viel. 19:49 < fake> wieso? 19:49 < huebi> Eine einfache Garantieverlaengerung. Wenn das Geraet mal hinfaellt, muss ich es selber bezahlen 19:52 < huebi> Dell ist da um einiges besser. Alles wird bei denen vor Ort repariert. Aber die geraete sind bei weitem nicht so gut wie das PB 19:53 -!- term_aweh [~pm@p50819EDC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 19:55 < fake> stimmt... 19:55 < fake> aber fuer D is das doch ne normale "Garantie" 19:59 < huebi> Mein HP Omnibook ist seit 20 Monaten defekt. Ich habe immer noch kein Notbook gebraucht. Ist fuer mich eher nur ein schoenes Spielzeug. 20:11 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 < [anders]> re all 20:11 < fake> hi [anders] 20:11 < huebi> hi [anders] 20:11 < [anders]> re fake huebi 20:12 < [anders]> What's happening? :) 20:12 * huebi testing a new .config for the kernel 20:12 < huebi> for sparc64 20:13 < [anders]> aaahh... 20:13 < [anders]> I hope to be able to order kit for a ia32 workstation (Athlon based) next weekend.. 20:15 < fake> what kit? 20:16 < [anders]> shuttle SS40G, XP1900+ and 512MB RAM.. DVD/CDRW, 80GB disk and an FDD.. :) 20:18 < fake> sweet! 20:18 < [anders]> I thought so too.. and I'll get a 17.1" TFT (1280x1024) screen to go with it.. ;-) 20:21 < fake> how much is that? 20:26 < [anders]> uhm, the screen is about £500 I think.. 20:26 < huebi> [anders]: What about a dual Athlon? 20:27 < [anders]> huebi: I am a little restricted for space, hence the Shuttle box.. 20:28 < [anders]> When I can afford the space, I'll have a look at a dual or quad Hammer.. 20:35 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C254.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < huebi> [anders]: I wait for the AMD 64-Bit CPUs. The Dual XP1800+ must last till then. 20:39 < huebi> hi bluefire 20:39 < [anders]> huebi: The Hammer is the AMD is64 arch.. 20:41 < huebi> [anders]: jo 20:42 * fake is also waiting for the hammer 20:42 < bluefire> re 20:43 < [anders]> So single AMD will have to do for me until I can arrange the space for a two or four way Hammer.. 20:50 < huebi> the hammer will be faster than the itanium. hehe 21:17 < fake> really? 21:17 < fake> well... in MHz, yes. 21:17 < huebi> I read so in Linux Enterprise Magazin. Intel licensed the Hammer. 21:21 < fake> sw33t ;) 21:22 < huebi> indeed 21:39 < huebi> ok. now the kernel compiles manually. at the next I test the rock build of it. 21:42 < huebi> compile failed 21:43 * huebi searching 21:43 < fake> make[1]: *** [xbootparam_prot.stmp] Segmentation fault 21:43 < fake> o_O 21:57 -!- chrisime [~icechat@pD9E507C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:59 < huebi> The 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:22] DAS macht das OS wieder instabiel, was meinst du warum windows immer abstuerst? ;) 21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:42] es macht keinen sinn, wenn man immer RPM's, DEB's etc. benutzt 21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:46] dann kann man bei win bleiben 21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:51] der sinn von linux ist OPEN SOURCE 21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:57] das man sich die .tar.gz files laed 21:59 < huebi> Au weia! 21:59 < chrisime> hoi huebi 21:59 < huebi> hi chrisime 22:00 < huebi> AF2k braucht unbedingt ROCK Liunx 22:00 < huebi> jup! kernel compiled 22:01 < huebi> next test 22:08 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_, praenti, Freak, coldie, SMP 22:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_, Freak, SMP, praenti, coldie 22:08 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # cp -avf /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err /var/tmp/ 22:08 < huebi> cp: overwrite `/var/tmp/3-alsa.err'? 22:09 < huebi> hmm. should be fixed. 22:09 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # /bin/cp -avf /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err /var/tmp/ 22:09 < huebi> `/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err' -> `/var/tmp/3-alsa.err' 22:09 < huebi> with absolute path it works. 22:13 < huebi> make -j8 -j1 -C video fastdep 22:13 < huebi> The make options are also fixed now ;-) 22:15 < huebi> ... und uebrig bleibt ein Mund voll Asche! 22:15 < huebi> Asche 22:15 < huebi> Asche 22:15 < huebi> Asche 22:16 < huebi> Ich komm wieder in 10 Tagen... 22:16 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39A9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:16 < chrisime> tst 22:16 < huebi> Aschew zu Asche ... und Staub zu Staub... 22:17 < fake> Rammstein ;) 22:17 < huebi> ;-))))) 22:17 < huebi> nachhern mal ins Terminus fahren ;-)) 22:18 < huebi> Da wir Samstags nur so was gesoielt. 22:18 < fake> :( 22:18 < huebi> fake: hae? 22:18 < chrisime> is der film Nico gut 22:18 < huebi> s/gesoielt/gespielt/ 22:18 < chrisime> kenn den irgendwie 22:18 < chrisime> kommt grad im tv 22:18 < chrisime> (TVKarte sei dank) 22:18 < fake> dann bin ich wieder allein im channel ;) 22:19 < huebi> fake: na wenn ueberhaupt, dann so in 3-4 h erst. 22:20 < huebi> Wilder wein vor deinem Schloss 22:21 < fake> huebi: und? 22:22 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 22:23 < huebi> ja ich weiss noch nicht. Wenn ich noch ein Bier trinkr fahre ich da nicht mehr hin ;-) 22:23 < Mike2> Hi 22:23 < huebi> hi Miguel. Nice to see you ;-)) 22:23 < Mike2> thanks same here 22:23 < Mike2> whats latest relaeaso of 1.5 tree? 22:23 < Mike2> -o 22:24 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54d4.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:24 < owl> hi 22:24 < huebi> hi owl ;-))) 22:24 < Mike2> hi owl 22:24 < Mike2> brb 22:24 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:25 -!- Freak [freak@p5083991A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:26 -!- Mike2 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 < huebi> re Mike2 22:29 < huebi> hi Freak 22:29 < Mike2> re 22:29 < Mike2> someasshole is using my nick Mike1, how do i get him out so i can identify with nickserv?? 22:29 * Mike2 not so gut with irc commands 22:32 < bluefire> Mike2: //msg nickserv help? 22:32 < bluefire> Only one / though 22:36 -!- Mike2 is now known as Mike1 22:37 < Mike1> hehe 23:04 < fake> > 23:04 < fake> >_< 23:05 < Mike1> hi fake 23:05 < fake> hi Mike1 23:07 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M083P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:11 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:15 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit) 23:18 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M122P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 23:18 < Mike1> re clifford_ --- Log closed Sun Jun 23 00:00:14 2002