-!- Irrsi Log opened Sun Jun 23 00:00:14 2002
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[00:04] < yain> smoin
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[00:09] < huebi> ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-3.3p1.tar.gz <- update.
[00:14] fake getting b33r.
[00:15] < yain> fake??
[00:15] < fake> yain?
[00:15] < yain> gar net im bchat?
[00:16] < fake> whois yain?
[00:17] < yain> alpha/angel/pipeddemon such dir was aus :)
[00:18] < fake> hi angel ;)
[00:18] < yain> hi :)
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[00:19] < fake> yain: bchat consumes to much concentration.
[00:19] < yain> nö...bei der userzahl bestimmt net
[00:19] < yain> aso, non-de. ok
[00:21] < fake> yain:egal. spiel nur grade NWN - und das deutsc-englisch switchen is nervig ;)
[00:22] < Mike1> see you on mondya
[00:22] < Mike1> monday*
[00:22] < Mike1> bye
[00:22] < huebi> cu Mike1
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[00:23] < yain> ^^
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[00:43] < fake> hehe.
[00:43] < fake> T ISDN XXL.
[00:44] < huebi> den kernel fuer sparc64 hinzukriegen ist ein ganz schoener Murks.
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[00:44] < owl> re
[00:45] < huebi> Ich habe einfach alle Automatismen fuer sparc64 ausgeschaltet und einfach ein feste Kernelkonfig eingeimpft.
[00:45] < huebi> re owl
[00:46] < huebi> kostet acor weniger als T-offline?
[00:46] < huebi> +r
[00:47] < fake> huebi: wenn du am sonntag mit t-isdn-xxl ne lokale einwahlnummer hast: gar nix ;)
[00:48] < huebi> oh kool
[00:49] < owl> *g* aber auch nuzr dann... die rechnung ist eh viel zu hoch... :/
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[01:02] < huebi> jups! kernel compiles and is ok
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[01:24] < owl> re
[01:24] < lizard> hi owl
[01:24] < huebi> re olw
[01:24] < huebi> uups
[01:24] < huebi> re owl
[01:24] < owl> windows... wuah! no comment...
[01:25] < lizard> mine are open ;-)
[01:28] < huebi> mine is open, too. 2 PCs, 2SUNs and 3 monitors are raising temperature too much
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[01:29] < huebi> SMP: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-3.3p1.tar.gz <- update.
[01:30] < huebi> rxr: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-3.3p1.tar.gz <- update.
[01:30] < huebi> clifford_: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-3.3p1.tar.gz <- update.
[01:30] < huebi> just that they get it, too *g*
[01:40] < huebi> 2712880901 <- new cksum
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[01:42] < owl> re
[01:42] < huebi> re owl
[01:43] < owl> gibt es irgendwo ein günstiges notebook? meines ist so halb im eimer :((((
[01:45] < fake> definiere guenstig ;)
[01:46] < owl> max. 2500 dm
[01:47] < owl> von mir aus auch gebraucht, aber in einem zustand, der als neuwertig betrachtet werden kann... (ergo: kein defektes display etc)
[01:48] < fake> owl: 1250 EUR? dafuer bekommst ja fasst ein neues
[01:48] < fake> -s
[01:48] < owl> jep. ich sagte: maximal... eher darunter...
[02:05] < fake> clifford_ : the current 1.7 snap is pretty much messed up...
[02:06] < fake> the generated directories are mostly not named like the .tar.x file without .tar.x
[02:19] < huebi> n8
[02:21] < ringo78> n8 all !
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[02:41] < fake> hehe.
[02:41] < fake> let's seee.
[02:41] < huebi> re
[02:41] < fake> if it works in stage 1 and it doesnt in stage 2.... autoconf!
[02:41] < fake> debian ver: 2.13 (?)
[02:41] < fake> our vers: 2.53
[02:42] < huebi> fake: And it works everywhere!
[02:44] < huebi> for i in `/bin/ls /mnt/rock/rock-linux/dist/rock-linux/tars/sparc64-*`; do echo $i; tar -xIf $i; done <- installin ROCK the rocky way
[02:44] < fake> what?
[02:44] < fake> huebi: ;)
[02:44] < fake> cool packet manager.
[02:44] < huebi> fake: Autoconf 2.53 is working in 1.5.x for every package since 2 weeks or so.
[02:45] < huebi> fake: Jo. the new disk in the U5 now gets 1.5.16
[02:47] < huebi> next kernel finished. now the modules
[02:51] < huebi> ../../gcc/config/sparc/sparc.c:1174: Internal compiler error in function sparc_emit_set_const32 ;P
[02:53] < huebi> make[2]: *** [3c59x.o] Error 1
[02:54] < bluefire> Gute Nacht allesamt.
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[03:19] < huebi> booooring
[03:19] < huebi> these kernel compile runs
[03:21] < fake> yeah
[03:21] < fake> get NWN
[03:21] < fake> ;)
[03:21] < huebi> fake: hehe
[03:22] < huebi> but I could see what Quake3 makes. Need a working joystick port for that.
[03:23] < huebi> no better not ;-)
[03:24] < fake> a JOYSTICK for Q3??
[03:24] < huebi> fake: Q3 is unplayable without a working joystick port.
[03:24] < huebi> of course
[03:24] < huebi> I use pedals
[03:24] < fake> the port only.
[03:25] < fake> pedals for q3?
[03:25] < huebi> very smooth in runing forward an backwards
[03:25] < fake> huebi is en esoteric gamer
[03:27] < huebi> I got this tip from Gallak. He plays q with pedals. A Razer mouse isn't fast enough for him ;-))
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[03:27] < d3mian> re
[03:27] < huebi> hi d3mian
[03:27] < fake> hi d3mian!
[03:29] < d3mian> fuckn windoof
[03:30] < d3mian> brb
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[03:30] < huebi> hehe
[03:30] < lizard> lol
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[03:44] < huebi> good night ;-)
[03:45] < d3mian> cu huebi
[03:45] < d3mian> damnit, admins erased the 1.5.16 iso :[
[03:45] < owl> bye huebi
[03:50] < fake> n8 huebi !
[04:06] < d3mian> cu later guys, sleep well
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[04:14] < huebi> wech...
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[04:37] owl|AFK is currently sleeping. try again in afternoon. [since: 04:45][BSS v0.71]
[04:40] < fake> ...
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[05:09] < fake> re owl.
[05:09] < owl> moin again...
[05:12] < fake> mag noch wer kaffee?
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[07:49] < rxr> re
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[08:24] < huebi> moin
[08:37] < [anders]> mrrrrning..
[08:37] < huebi> morning [anders] ;-)
[08:40] < rxr> moin huebi
[08:40] < huebi> moin rxr
[08:50] < huebi> rxr: if you put a new, big harddrive in your U5 you just need to boot from the solaris9 software 1/2 CD and you will get a working disk label while you prepare the installation. The Linux fdisk is too buggy to handle big disk right on U4.
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[09:04] < huebi> moin snyke
[09:06] huebi is thinkink about producink some Pitr Cola...
[09:07] < [anders]> *yawn* I need a cup of tea..
[09:15] < [anders]> humma.. does anyone know how I can modify an iptables firewall to allow incomming connections if they are directed at XNap, but nothing else.
[09:15] < [anders]> ?
[09:19] < coldie> what ports does xnap listen on?
[09:19] < [anders]> coldie: Don't know.. what's the flags on netstat to find out? :)
[09:20] < [anders]> There was a port in the setting I specified, and it appears to be listened on..
[09:21] < coldie> lsof -i4 usually does it for me
[09:21] < [anders]> (and I have allowed that in through the firewall)
[09:23] < [anders]> well, it listens to the port I specified.. However, in the details it states I am not sharing any files.. (but I do...)
[09:24] < coldie> well, I can't help there, but for the iptables stuff you can just do:
[09:24] < coldie> iptables -p INPUT DROP #to set default for incoming packets to drop
[09:25] < coldie> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport WHATEVER_PORT_NUMBER -j ACCEPT #to allow WHATEVER_PORT_NUMBER through
[09:27] < [anders]> coldie: thanks. I have already allowed that port though though.. What threw me was that the xnap servers does not seem to ack that I am sharing files.. probably because they are not picking up I am only allowing one port.
[10:16] < huebi> 10:16am up 1 day, 28 min, 3 users, load average: 107.83, 61.73, 43.16
[10:16] < huebi> and again a kernel...
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[10:29] < huebi> moin bluefire
[10:31] < bluefire> Moin huebi
[10:32] < huebi> Kernelbacken auf langsamer Hardware macht nicht so richtig Spass ;(
[10:33] < huebi> The Ultra 30 with 300MHz has only 1/6 of the speed of an AMD XP 1800+
[10:34] < bluefire> Nope. That's why I still have ipchains instead of iptables on my p100 firewall.
[10:34] < huebi> ~ 14 min per Kernel.
[10:35] < bluefire> Even mounting the kernel per nfs and compiling on a different box takes ages.
[10:36] < huebi> My first PC was an P100 with 64MB. At that time it was really fast.
[10:38] < huebi> Juhuuuu! kernel built!
[10:38] < bluefire> I started with a 80386-25MHz, 2MB RAM, 50MB HD. At that time a 386 was state of the art and only the 33 MHz variant was better. That was the time when the Amiga and Atari where still taken into consideration when buying a computer. Actually I wanted a A2000, but my daddy wouldn't hear about that.
[10:38] < bluefire> WingCommander 1 had just been out ;)
[10:38] < bluefire> And the ASM was still alive
[10:38] bluefire sigh
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[11:23] < huebi> Ire snyke
[11:23] < huebi> -I
[11:29] [anders] remember dreaming about an A4000 with a 68060 accelerator card instead of the A500 with the 68030 VXL acc. card..
[11:31] < huebi> ;-)
[11:32] < [anders]> Question: Will Gnome 2.0 work with ROCK 1.4.0 ?
[11:32] < huebi> Use better dROCK 1.6.0
[11:32] < [anders]> Ok.. has dRock 1.6.0 been released?
[11:33] < huebi> no.
[11:33] < [anders]> timescale?
[11:33] < huebi> But rene said it will be out in the next days.
[11:35] < [anders]> Cool.. That'll be the first thing to do with my new workstation then... Building dRock 1.6.0... :)
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[12:11] < [anders]> re term_emu
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[12:21] < ringo78> Hi all, what is a good terminal program to create audio cd's ?
[12:24] < term_emu> moin
[12:25] < term_emu> ringo78: what do you mean with 'create'? just take a few tracks and burn them on cd?
[12:29] < ringo78> term_emu: Yep Tryed to create a cd but trackinfo is garbeld up, track one and 2 are ok but disk keeps seeking at track3 ..
[12:36] < term_emu> hmm
[12:37] < term_emu> cdrecord should do the job
[12:39] < ringo78> Ok than I have soem trouble with my scsi device ... Thanks .
[12:41] < ringo78> s/soem/some
[12:41] < huebi> ringo78: Or with the cd.
[12:41] < ringo78> hmm on wxx it works fine ;-(((((((((((((
[12:42] < huebi> cdrecord dev=/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/generic -v speed=32 fs=31M -pad -audio track*
[12:42] < huebi> and before I ripped it with:
[12:43] < huebi> cdparanoia -v -B 1- wav
[12:43] < huebi> https://freshmeat.net/redir/cdparanoia/1133/url_tgz/cdparanoia-III-alpha9.8.src.tgz
[12:45] < ringo78> I have something to do... Thanks !!
[12:48] < term_emu> speed=32
[12:48] < term_emu> wow :)
[12:52] < huebi> term_emu: jo. It was a special offer of a local PC-Shop. 79 EUR 32/12/40
[12:54] < ringo78> cdr 4* write ;-( (no rw).
[13:01] < th> re
[13:01] < huebi> th: hi
[13:01] < th> jo
[13:02] < huebi> th: </AOL> Sie kriegen Post! </AOL>
[13:02] < th> huebi: nett!
[13:03] < huebi> th: Wolltst du eigendlich auch Solaris9 haben?
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[13:05] < th> huebi: brauch ich nicht wirklich ;)
[13:06] < huebi> ok
[13:06] < th> und wenn, dann komm ich da auch irgendwie ran :)
[13:06] < huebi> jo
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[13:21] < bluefire> huebi: How long do you think the bbq will go into the evening?
[13:21] < huebi> bluefire: Long. Very long ;-)
[13:21] < bluefire> huebi: and since I only stay a limited time, when would it be best to come?
[13:21] < huebi> Midnight at least
[13:22] < bluefire> I guess it's a no-computers-needed happening?
[13:23] < huebi> bluefire: I'm on a birthdayparty first. we will come between 16 -17h. Deside yourself what time is best
[13:23] < huebi> bluefire: Yes no-computers-needed ;-))
[14:09] < owl|afk> good morning
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[14:13] < huebi> moin owl ;-)
[14:32] < huebi> cu
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[15:12] < hackbard> huebi: gerade da? ich such auf google nach einer seite zum selber bauen eines adapters fuer pc monitor auf sparc ausgang, weiss aber nicht wie der sparc ausgang heisst ..
[15:12] < hackbard> :)
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[15:24] < [anders]> re clifford_
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[15:25] < [anders]> Mmmm... Double measure Gin and some Lemon Zest Tonicwater..
[15:26] [anders] will hack a bit on a webpage now...
[15:40] [anders] should be able to take a look at ROCK/UML soon as well...
[15:46] < coldie> so thirsty... :(
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[15:59] < holyolli> moin
[16:02] < owl> hi
[16:02] < holyolli> hi owl
[16:14] < owl> wie ist eigetnlich die unterstützung von tv-karten (haupauge, pci) unter rock?
[16:16] < holyolli> owl: eigendlich genauso, wie auch unter anderen linux-distris
[16:17] < owl> sehr schön :)
[16:25] < owl> cya
[16:25] < holyolli> cya2
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[17:07] < owl> re
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[19:10] < praenti> hi
[19:11] < praenti> kann mir einer sagen wo ich ein paar c++ meister finden kann?
[19:11] < praenti> ich verzweifel mit dem scheiß noch
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[19:20] < netcrow> ho
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[19:25] praenti is essen
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[19:41] praenti is wieder da
[19:48] < fake> moin.
[19:49] < fake> praenti: wasn los?
[19:50] < praenti> fake: ich will meinen > operator überladen und der compiler mosert mich immer an, dass ich da nur ein argument übergeben kann
[19:51] < praenti> macht aber imho bei einem vergleichsoperator keinen sinn, der ja bool zurückliefert
[19:51] < praenti> fake: wennst magst schau die den code auf https://apollo.bingo-ev.de/~mo1032
[19:51] < praenti> an
[19:54] < fake> praenti : mom
[19:54] < fake> argh. scheiss MIME-Type
[19:55] < praenti> ??
[19:55] < fake> praenti: packst du noch schnell 'n makefile dazu?
[19:55] < praenti> fake: das problem is übrigens in der HRLager Klasse
[19:55] < fake> oke.
[19:56] < praenti> fake: sind dabei. weiß aber nicht ob die makefiles soweit gehen. die sind von kdevelop erzeugt
[19:57] < fake> bool HRLager::operator>(const HRLager &HR1, const HRLager &HR2) ?
[19:57] < fake> *uargh*
[19:57] < fake> @kdevelop
[19:58] < praenti> genau die zeile. die makefiles gehen übrigens
[19:59] < praenti> fake: ist übrigens in einer Library definition auch so beschrieben
[19:59] < fake> hm... ich hab noch nie operatoren in C++ ueberladen, aber ich hab da so ein schlaues buch.
[20:01] < fake> shit. hab das buch nicht da.
[20:02] < praenti> fake: obs drinsteht is sowieso fraglich. ich hab 2 und die können mir auch nicht weiterhelfen
[20:03] < th> wieso eigentlich 2 argumente? ich hab doch die instanz + 1 argument = 2 operatoren
[20:03] < th> s,operatoren,operanden,
[20:06] < praenti> th: der soll zwei Objekte miteinander vergleichen, welches geringer kosten hat
[20:06] < praenti> also im code steht dann ein if(HR1>HR2)
[20:07] < th> praenti: ja. erstes objekt die instanz zweites objekt das 1. argument
[20:07] < praenti> th: und wie bekomm ich dann meinen bool zurück?
[20:07] th hat keine ahnung von operatoren in c++ und vermutet nur.
[20:08] < th> praenti: den boot returned "operator>" dachte ich
[20:08] < th> s,boot,bool,
[20:08] < praenti> sowas funzt nämlich: HRLager HRLager::operator>(const HRLager &HR2);
[20:09] < th> vielleicht ist NULL ja dann ein false und wenn man was zurueckbekommt entweder die instanz oder HR2
[20:09] < praenti> du meinst eine return(operator>); im code?
[20:09] < th> nein ein return(HR2) im code
[20:10] < th> bzw, return(0)
[20:10] < praenti> th: gibts bloß noch ein Problem. ich komm an die attribut von HR1 nicht ran
[20:10] < praenti> s/attribut/attribute
[20:10] < th> praenti: gibts denn in c++ kein self oder this?
[20:11] < praenti> ahh. argh *anschädelhau*
[20:11] < praenti> ich glaub das geht
[20:12] < fake> man... ich check das nich....
[20:12] < fake> gcc3.
[20:12] < fake> ich builden.
[20:12] < fake> stage1: kein problem.
[20:12] < fake> stage2: problem.
[20:13] < fake> er geht in stage2 in ein subdir, von dem er bei stage1 weiss, dass es nicht funzen wird.
[20:13] < fake> einziger unterschied im makefile:
[20:13] < fake> diff gcc3-s1/Makefile.in gcc3-s2/Makefile.in
[20:13] < fake> 1630c1630
[20:13] < fake> < cd gcc && $(MAKE) $(GCC_FLAGS_TO_PASS) LANGUAGES="c"
[20:13] < fake> ---
[20:13] < fake> > cd gcc && $(MAKE) $(GCC_FLAGS_TO_PASS) LANGUAGES="c c++"
[20:13] < fake> 1636c1636
[20:13] < fake> < LANGUAGES="c" all
[20:13] < fake> ---
[20:13] < fake> > LANGUAGES="c c++" all
[20:13] < fake> 1678c1678
[20:13] < fake> < (cd gcc; $(MAKE) $(GCC_FLAGS_TO_PASS) LANGUAGES="c" install); \
[20:13] < fake> ---
[20:13] < fake> > (cd gcc; $(MAKE) $(GCC_FLAGS_TO_PASS) LANGUAGES="c c++" install); \
[20:14] < fake> alles andere ist _identisch_
[20:15] < praenti> th: thx. das frisst er. bloß hab ich keine rückgabe
[20:15] < praenti> HRLager.cpp:93: conversion from `int' to non-scalar type `HRLager' requested
[20:15] < th> naja casten
[20:15] < praenti> das dachte ich mir schon.
[20:16] < praenti> th: wird kaum gehen wenn du nen cast eines int an ein Objekt schickst.
[20:16] < praenti> wenn dann an ein Attribut eines Objekts
[20:16] < th> (HRLager)0 ??
[20:16] < praenti> wie meinen?
[20:17] < th> ich caste so: (typ) wert
[20:17] < th> also return ((HRLager)0)
[20:17] < th> aber das mag in c++ nich gehen. vielleicht geht aber ein return (NULL)?
[20:18] < praenti> muss ich austesten ob das geht. der NULL geht nicht. is auch skalar und ein Objekt kann ja keinen Wert annehmen
[20:18] < praenti> genauso wie in C eine Struktur das nicht kann
[20:18] < th> praenti: vielleicht sollst du auch einfach nur den kleineren oder groesseren von den beiden returnen also entweder return(self) oder return(HR2)
[20:19] < th> praenti: also ein pointer auf eine c struct kann das schon ;)
[20:19] < praenti> th: dann muss ich if auch noch überladen :-(
[20:19] < th> oehm?
[20:19] < th> wegen bool
[20:19] < praenti> genau
[20:19] < th> hmm
[20:20] < praenti> if kann mit int bool und float glaub ich
[20:20] < th> es muss doch ein NULL geben...
[20:20] < th> wie initialisier ich sonst variablen, die ein objekt speichern, wenn noch kein objekt drin ist?
[20:21] < praenti> th: andere idee. ich schmeiß die zurückgegebene struktur wieder in ne operator= überladung. dann hab ich meinen bool
[20:21] < praenti> th: objekt wird gebaut über new(this) und dann konstruktor
[20:22] < th> praenti: ja also: variable = new(...)
[20:22] < praenti> un der konstruktor kann initialisieren
[20:22] < th> und was ist davor in der variablen?
[20:23] < praenti> th: sind nicht existent, da noch kein malloc an den speicher gegengen ist
[20:23] < th> hmmm
[20:23] < fake> wie war noch gleich die IP von alexander's ftp?
[20:25] < praenti> th: in C machst du ja auch typedef struct {...} meins;
[20:25] < esden> hi all
[20:25] esden getting gentoo iso
[20:25] esden will then install it and test
[20:25] < praenti> th: und dann hast du erst deinen NULL wenn du irgendwo mein meinevariable; machst
[20:25] < praenti> s/mein/meins
[20:26] < th> praenti: ja ich rede ja auch von der variable
[20:26] < th> typedef struct {...} meinTyp;
[20:26] < th> meinTyp * meineVar;
[20:26] < th> meineVar = NULL;
[20:27] < praenti> th: aso. des is aber scheiße, weil dann mein HR1 weg is
[20:27] < praenti> ;-)
[20:27] < th> praenti: wieso ist das dann weg?
[20:27] < th> und wofuer brauchst du es noch NACH dem return?
[20:29] < praenti> bei sowas HRLager HRLager::operator>(const HRLager &HR2);
[20:29] < praenti> gibt ein Objekt der Klasse HRLager zurück
[20:30] < th> 20:09:21 < th> vielleicht ist NULL ja dann ein false und wenn man was zurueckbekommt entweder die instanz oder
[20:30] < praenti> bei einem Aufruf HR1>HR2 ist HR1 das aufrufende Objekte und damit rückgabeempfänger
[20:30] < th> rückgabeempfänger??
[20:30] < praenti> jo. der kriegt das NULL ab
[20:31] < praenti> und meine schönen zuvor eingelagerten autos sind dann irgendwo im speicher unterwegs
[20:31] < th> meiner ansicht ist HR1 doch hoechstens das gerufene objekt
[20:31] < th> denn die methode operator> von HR1 wird mit HR2 als arg gerufen
[20:32] < praenti> ohh. kann sein. dann hab ich da vielleicht auch was falsch verstanden
[20:32] < praenti> mom
[20:32] < th> meine theorie ist, dass HR2 zurueckgegeben wird (d.h. HR1>HR2 evaluiert sich zu HR2) oder bei < evaluiert es sich zu NULL
[20:33] < blindcoder> g'abend
[20:33] < praenti> ganz anders
[20:34] < praenti> th: nach deiner theorie bekomm ich ja meinen bool
[20:34] < praenti> bool HRLager::operator>(const HRLager &);
[20:34] < fake> hi blindcoder !
[20:34] < blindcoder> hi fake
[20:34] < praenti> bool HRLager::operator>(const HRLager &HR2) in der FKT-Def
[20:34] < praenti> ;-)))
[20:35] < praenti> dickes THX
[20:35] < th> hehe
[20:35] < praenti> des rätsels lösung war nur der this
[20:37] < th> juht
[20:37] < blindcoder> praenti: hast du einen 1.5.x build rumliegen? also nen fertigen Stage 5 Build?
[20:39] < fake> WEEEE! RENE ich LIEBE dich!
[20:39] < fake> perl5 compiled auf der MIPS !!
[20:40] < fake> owl: bremsen.
[20:41] < esden> fake: huh ??? machst dich jetzt an rene drann ??? was ist mit mir ?? magst mich nimma :-(
[20:41] < blindcoder> esden: du bist jetzt vergeben also ruhe
[20:42] < esden> mennooooo !!!
[20:42] < esden> ich muss meli anrufen und ihr sagen dass schluss ist ;-)
[20:42] < blindcoder> *lol*
[20:42] < fake> ...
[20:42] < blindcoder> ,,,
[20:42] < esden> toller kommentar ihr beiden
[20:42] < fake> esden: ich liebe dich nicht mehr! *harumpf*
[20:43] < esden> auuu ... fake das hat wehgetan
[20:43] < esden> ich gehe dann mal gentoo installieren
[20:43] < esden> bis spaeter
[20:43] < fake> *lol*
[20:43] < fake> jap, bis dann
[20:43] < fake> viel spass ;)
[20:48] < th> wieso is er denn noch nicht weg?
[20:48] < th> macht er jetzt hier industriespionage?
[20:49] < fake> th> screen auf nem server auf.
[20:49] < th> das ist kein grund
[20:50] < fake> th> sicher?
[20:50] < th> "screen auf nem server auf." ist kein grund fuer "wieso is er denn noch nicht weg?"
[20:50] < fake> th> in bezug auf reboot schon.
[20:50] < th> aber was will er noch hier, wenn er doch gentooed
[20:53] < fake> th> er betreibt nur espionage von gentoo.
[20:53] < th> 20:48:54 < th> macht er jetzt hier industriespionage?
[20:53] fake startet NWN
[20:53] < th> sagte ich ja
[20:53] < fake> th> nicht hier. bei gentoo!
[20:54] < th> fake: ich dachte er waere jetzt bockig, weil du ihn nicht mehr liebst und wendet sich deswegen von rock ab und installiert gentoo
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[20:55] < tsa> tag
[20:55] < fake> th> so stark sind seine gefuehle fuer mich nicht -_-
[20:55] < fake> hi tsa!
[20:57] < tsa> hi fake
[20:57] praenti wird demnächst auch mal gentooen
[20:57] < praenti> die haben schließlich auch bestimmt das ein oder andere spioniert ;-)
[20:58] < praenti> unter umständen sogar bei uns könnte ich mir vorstellen ;-))
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[21:03] < owl> re
[22:00] < huebi> MoeP!
[22:03] < praenti> huebi: MoeP!
[22:04] praenti is jetzt fertig von C++
[22:04] < huebi> hi praenti
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[22:04] < praenti> th: noch da?
[22:04] < bluefire> re
[22:04] < huebi> hi bluefire
[22:04] < huebi> hehe
[22:04] < praenti> re blindcoder
[22:04] < th> praenti: ack
[22:04] < praenti> re bluefire meinte ich
[22:04] < praenti> th: und du kannst wirklich kein C++?
[22:05] < th> praenti: naja ich hab vielleicht mal ein oder zwei projekte in c++ gemacht. aber eigentlich nein
[22:05] < praenti> th: dafür bist aber nicht mal schlecht im debuggen ;-)
[22:06] < th> praenti: oo-erfahrung mit ein paar anderen sprachen ;)
[22:07] < praenti> welche?
[22:07] < th> objc, java, python
[22:07] < th> noch was vergessen?
[22:07] < th> hmm
[22:07] < th> dunno
[22:08] < praenti> naja. ich werd morgen noch den gewünschten fifo-puffer mit einbauen (aber dafür gibts zum glück deque)
[22:10] < blindcoder> von esden: NEVER TRY TO INSTALL NETHACK ON GENTOO!!!
[22:10] < blindcoder> it has really sick dependencies
[22:12] praenti is im bett. gn8
[22:17] < tsa> re.
[22:17] < huebi> hi tsa
[22:17] < tsa> huhu huebi
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[22:59] < ringo78> huebi: found the trouble with the writer got to update firmware ...
[23:00] < huebi> ringo78: Ah. ok
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[23:10] < ringo78> by all ! got to sleep :-(
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[23:16] < huebi> gn8 ;-)
[23:19] < esden> re hi all
[23:20] < esden> is someone awake ?
[23:20] < esden> bosidos myself ?
[23:21] < fake> jo
[23:21] < fake> besides
[23:21] < esden> ok
[23:21] < tsa> hehe.
[23:21] < esden> fake: gentoo sux
[23:21] < tsa> jo.
[23:21] < esden> that is now sure
[23:22] < esden> I have two a4 pages with my observations about gentoo
[23:22] < tsa> anything positive?
[23:22] < esden> I will have to formulate them so that others do understand this ... and write to the mailinglist
[23:22] < esden> tsa: sure
[23:23] < tsa> ok.
[23:23] < fake> esden: people/esden/why-gentoo-sucks.html
[23:23] < esden> there are also cool things like pci card autodetection on the install disks
[23:23] < esden> or the support of ext[23], reiserfs and xfs
[23:24] < esden> but there are other flaws like ill dependances
[23:24] < tsa> hm..
[23:25] < tsa> we have the same problems.
[23:25] < esden> when you install nethack ... they automatically install xfree too
[23:25] < tsa> everything in rock linux needs hylafax.
[23:25] < esden> you need for a simple insallation 2 hours
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[23:27] < esden> and when you also want x and additonal programs the time expands with the time you need to compile the additional stuff
[23:28] < esden> you are forced to compile a kernel during the installation ... it has positive but also very negative sides
[23:29] < esden> like that you need enough space on the root file system for the linux sources to compile a kernel otherwise nothing works/boots
[23:29] < esden> and and and
[23:29] < esden> ...
[23:30] < esden> what do you say boys ?
[23:30] < esden> nothing ?
[23:30] < esden> ok ...
[23:31] < esden> ;-)
[23:34] < fake> <-- NWN
[23:35] < esden> fake: viel spass
[23:38] < fake> esden: den hab ich ;)
[23:43] < tsa> hm...
[23:44] < tsa> kann ich gtk+ 1.2.10 parallel zu 2.x.x installieren oder gibt das terror?
[23:44] < esden> kannst schon machen soweit ich weiss @ tsa
[23:44] < tsa> hm...ok, dann teste ich das morgen mal..
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[23:58] < bluefire> Good night all.
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