-!- Irrsi  Log opened Mon Jun 24 00:00:32 2002
[00:01] < fake> re owl.
[00:02] < fake> punktlich puenktlich ;)
[00:02] < owl> was denn?
[00:02] < owl> du meintest t-isdn-xxl <--> freenet-wechsel?
[00:03] < fake> jep ;)
[00:03] < term_aweh> good night
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[00:04] < owl> tja. t-offline soll schließlich ned all mein geld bekommen...
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[00:06] < aszlig> oh, stimmt ja...
[00:06] < aszlig> fast vergessen *wechsel*
[00:08] < aszlig> re
[00:53] < tsa> n8
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[01:46] < fake> ha!
[01:46] < fake> i've got it.
[01:46] < fake> 1) build perl
[01:46] < fake> 2) re-build autoconf
[01:46] < fake> 3) build gcc3
[01:47]   fake making s/th to eat
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[03:13] < rxr> n8 - cu
[03:13] < fake> n8!
[03:21] < hackbard> jawoll, n8 :)
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[07:59] < huebi> moin
[08:11] < aszlig> re
[08:18] < huebi> hi aszlig
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[09:14] < tsa> moin allerseits.
[09:32] < huebi> moin tsa
[09:36] < tsa> hi huebi
[09:36] < SMP> aaaaaargh
[09:38] < SMP> es ist so geil wenn die Festplatte in nem packetfilter entscheidet, dass sie bei Schreibbefehlen sich einfach irgendwie pikiert zurueckzieht
[09:39] < SMP> 5,5 Stunden downtime incl. 2h Anfahrt. nicht mal wirklich schlecht
[09:40] < tsa> SMP: hm....ROCK read-only und dann alles von CD? ;-)
[09:41] < SMP> OpenBSD
[09:41] < tsa> ah..ok.
[09:41] < SMP> das 'packetfilter' war schon ernst gemeint :}
[09:42] < rxr> re
[09:42] < tsa> moin rxr
[09:42] < rxr> hi tsa
[09:42] < SMP> WAAAHHH huebi!!
[09:42]   SMP hat grad ein riesiges Paket bekommen
[09:43] < SMP> und da muss ich jetzt ne Woche mit dem Auspacken warten
[09:43] < SMP> ;-))
[09:43] < tsa> ?
[09:43] < SMP> steht drauf 'Alles Gute zum Geburtstag'
[09:44] < tsa> achso..
[09:44] < huebi> SMP: Sofort auspacken ;-))))
[09:44] < SMP> echt? ;)
[09:44]   SMP ahnt schon was es ist :)
[09:44] < huebi> In ernst. Macht Spass
[09:44] < tsa> ne SuSE-Distri? *duck*
[09:46] < SMP> *zerr*
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[09:46] < [anders]> re all
[09:46] < tsa> hi [anders]
[09:46] < [anders]> hiya tsa.. what's happening?
[09:47] < SMP> *WAAHHH*
[09:47] < SMP> YES!
[09:47] < SMP> it's a Java Station
[09:47] < SMP> übercool
[09:47]   SMP jumps around huebi
[09:49] < SMP> huebi: Vielen Dank!
[09:50] < tsa> [anders]: SMP unpacking his birthday presents before birthday..
[09:50] < huebi> SMP: Gern geschehen ;-)))
[09:50] < [anders]> tsa: hehehehe
[09:50] < huebi> tsa: SMP ist diese Jahr eine Woche frueher ein Jahr aelter geworden *g*
[09:52] < huebi> [anders]: SMP got this year one week earlyer one year older.
[09:55] < [anders]> huebi: aaah.. :)
[09:55] < [anders]> birthday come early for SMP... :)
[09:56] < [anders]> SMP: Gutes Geburstag (or thereabouts...)
[09:57] < SMP> thanks, but .. not yet :)
[09:57] < [anders]> I have _no_ clue if that is correct german or not.. :)
[09:57] < [anders]> was I even close?
[09:57] < SMP> very close
[09:58] < [anders]> so what is the correct version then?
[09:59] < SMP> 'Guten Geburtstag' would be gramatically correct. one usually says 'Alles Gute zum Geburtstag'
[10:00] < [anders]> needless to say it was along time ago I did german..
[10:03] < fake> *yaaaawns* mornin
[10:03] < fake> *reads backlog* hehe.
[10:03] < huebi> SMP: The 32-Bit userland of ROCK Linux 1.5.16 for sparc64 works for the "Krupps". It just needs a 32-Bit XFree86 and a 32-Bit kernel for it. I'll send you a CD.
[10:03] < huebi> hi fake
[10:03] < tsa> moin fake
[10:03]   huebi searching some coffee
[10:03] < SMP> huebi: you mean 'a CD image'? ;)
[10:04] < fake> *sing* Hapy Birthday (soon) to you... Happy Birthday (in advance) to you... etc. @SMP
[10:04] < SMP> I pretty much hate birthdays
[10:04] < SMP> including my own
[10:05] < huebi> SMP: Yes, I would prefer that way. And you can have a look at "ella" for an quite good working tftp, nfsd and dhcpd configuration.
[10:06] < SMP> I need a hostname for it..
[10:06] < fake> SMP: i know what you mean. i cloaked mine succesfully this year ;)
[10:06] < SMP> huebi: what was your daughter's name again? does it make a goot hostname, too? ;)
[10:06] < fake> his daughter is a l33t ubergeek
[10:06] < huebi> SMP: Ella-Charlotte
[10:06] < fake> she can draw ascii art already!
[10:07] < huebi> rocklinux.dyndns.org = ella.seeheim.lan
[10:07] < huebi> fake: Yes that was koool!! ;-))
[10:07] < SMP> so this JavaStation will be charlotte.wronline.de
[10:07] < huebi> SMP: koool ;-)
[10:09] < SMP> hum
[10:09] < SMP> is there any documentation about running JavaOS on it?
[10:10] < huebi> SMP: I can give you also a JavaOS CD for it.
[10:10] < SMP> that would be great
[10:11] < huebi> hmm. And a small SparcStation IPX for running Solaris for the JavaOS-Server
[10:11] < SMP> uhm
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[10:12] < holyolli> moin
[10:12] < huebi> moin holyolli
[10:12] < holyolli> huhu huebi
[10:12] < fake> hi holyolli
[10:12] < holyolli> hi fake
[10:12] < SMP> what kind of server does a JavaStation expect?
[10:12] < praenti> moin
[10:13] < SMP> the usual dhcp, tftp and nfs?
[10:13] < holyolli> hi praenti, smp
[10:13] < SMP> anything special?
[10:13] < huebi> SMP: It's some special stuff. I never tried that but it's called 'Netra J'
[10:13] < fake> something like WebInstaller?
[10:14] < SMP> yes, I remember that name
[10:14] < SMP> might it be possible to run this on Solaris 2.6/x86?
[10:16] < huebi> SMP: Perhaps, I don't know. I got all the manuals and the software CD
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[10:17] < huebi> But JavaOS must be very slow. Too slow to work with it
[10:17] < simon-> hi, vieleicht könnt ihr mir ja helfen: Mounting proc filesystem: dup2: bad file descriptor
[10:17] < simon-> what does that mean?
[10:18] < simon-> an how to fix it?
[10:18] < SMP> huebi: ich hab ne Schwaeche fuer stinkende, alte, proprietaere Systeme ;->
[10:18] < SMP> wie IRIX..
[10:18] < tsa> hehe
[10:19] < huebi> SMP: Die JavaStation wurde mit Haendedesinfektionsmittel gereinigt. Die sollte so ein bischen nach Bluemchen riechen und _Nicht_ stinken. *g*
[10:19] < tsa> lol.
[10:20] < simon-> ihr wisst auch nichts?
[10:20] < tsa> simon-: evtl ist der mount-point hin?
[10:20] < SMP> simon-: funktioniert irgendwas nicht?
[10:21] < simon-> SMP hmm.. nichts funktioniert mehr :-(
[10:21] < SMP> uh
[10:21] < simon-> das war ein software root raid1 unter redhat 7.2
[10:21] < fake> SMP: hast du IRIX media??
[10:21] < simon-> das ist die nachricht die ich beim booten erhalte.. direkt nachdem das init system anläuft
[10:22] < simon-> und das war ein produktivsystem in dem 3 wochen arbeit stecken.. ;-(((
[10:22] < fake> simon- : bootdisketten besorgen, die den software-raid verstehen, und dann durchceken
[10:22] < fake> (wie kann man einen software- oder ueberhaupt-raid auf ein root-fs machen?)
[10:22] < simon-> fake schonmal diesen fehler gehabt?
[10:22] < SMP> fake: quasi
[10:23] < simon-> fake wie oder warum?
[10:23] < fake> SMP: ich nehme an: verliehen? Eigentuemer, aber nicht Besitzer?
[10:23] < SMP> quasi
[10:23] < fake> simon-: ignoriere das in klammern. das ist was ich denke - das kannst du gar nich sehen ;P
[10:23] < simon-> fake ok..
[10:23] < fake> SMP: ich glaube ich verstehe quasi.
[10:24] < fake> SMP: nicht.
[10:24] < simon-> fake meinst also dass das raid einfach tot ist..
[10:24] < simon-> sollte doch aber trotzdem hochlaufen und das raid im betrieb neu erstellen oder?
[10:25] < fake> wie gesagt: besorg dir / bau dir ne bootdisk, die das gleiche raid spricht, und checke die fs's
[10:25] < simon-> fake danke, ich versuchs..
[10:26] < fake> viel glueck ;)
[10:26] < simon-> fake danke.. ich werde es brauchen (mich beunruhigt das sowas unter google nicht zufinden ist!)
[10:27] < simon-> bin jetzt mal bootdisks bauen..
[10:27] < huebi> simon-: Bei google werden schlechte Sachen ueber Rothut ausgemappt.
[10:27] < huebi> *GG*
[11:11] < esden> morgen!
[11:11] < huebi> hi esden
[11:11] < holyolli> moin esden
[11:12] < aszlig> hollu
[11:12] < esden> only a little info for the ones that do not know that already ... gentoo sux ... but now for sure
[11:12] < esden> I have tested it yesterday
[11:13] < aszlig> i dont use gentoo anymore, can yuo tellme _why_ it sucks?
[11:14] < tsa> hardcoded dependencies.
[11:14] < esden> I have two a4 pages with my observations I will send them to the mailinglist
[11:14] < tsa> cool.
[11:14] < aszlig> uuh, k
[11:14]   tsa expecting mail.
[11:15]   aszlig too ;)
[11:16] < huebi> </AOL> me too! <AOL>
[11:16] < tsa> they do have some nice features, sure...so i think it's a good opportunity what we could improve on rock linux..
[11:16] < th> re
[11:16] < huebi> Please notice the special AOL tags *g*
[11:16] < huebi> hi th
[11:17] < tsa> hehe
[11:17] < th> huebi: they don't know enough xml  ;)
[11:17] < tsa> hehe
[11:17] < tsa> hi th
[11:17] < huebi> th: <AOL> Haben Sie Post? </AOL>
[11:17] < th> huebi: aber noch nicht von dir. an welche adresse hast du geschickt?
[11:18] < th> hausnummer 8 oder 12?
[11:18] < huebi> th: Jo. I had a look around - absolutly no xml knowledge in sight.
[11:18] < huebi> th: Weiss ich nicht mehr. Ich vermute 12
[11:19] < th> huebi: dann ist es noch nicht da... eben kam ein german parcel aber der brachte mir was anderes
[11:19] < th> huebi: haste ne tracking nummer? oder... wie isses denn raus?
[11:19] < th> huebi: post?
[11:19] < aszlig> th: erm, gehts um snailmail?
[11:19] < huebi> Deutsch Bummel Post. Waren schon bei SMP
[11:20] < th> aszlig: jo
[11:20] < aszlig> th: never mind
[11:20] < aszlig> th: hehe
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[11:23] < esden> me writing
[11:23] < aszlig> esden: k
[11:29] < fake> hm...
[11:38] < blindcoder> morning everyone
[11:38] < praenti> moin blindcoder
[11:38] < fake> hi blindcoder
[11:38] < huebi> hi blindcoder
[11:48]   blindcoder is now going to crash a computer with the build-cd ;)
[11:49] < th> huebi: die post war heute aber auch noch nicht hier ;)
[11:49] < huebi> th: ok
[11:50] < huebi> Does sombody know where I get informations about the AlphaStation 433a. I did not find something on search.compaq.com
[11:56] < tsa> hm..
[12:02] < tsa> google gives lots of links where to buy memory for this machine....but nothing useful..
[12:03] < huebi> I want to know what sort of memory is needed.
[12:03] < fake> huebi: ask esden, he should know...
[12:06] < huebi> Esden: *PING*
[12:21] < tsa> hm...esden seems to be firewalled...dropping icmp
[12:21] < tsa> try GET /esden HTTP/1.0
[12:21] < huebi> ( I must invoce ECP - Esden Control Protocol )
[12:21] < tsa> hehe
[12:22] < huebi> I think Mathilda knows how to treatr him ;-))
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[12:24] < bluefire> Moin
[12:24] < huebi> moin bluefire ;-)
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[12:26] < tsa> hi bluefire
[12:26] < tsa> hi term_emu
[12:27] < term_emu> hiho
[12:32]   fake eating
[12:42]   term_emu cum cane ambulat
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[13:05] < tsa> bbl.
[13:05] < huebi> cu tsa
[13:05] < tsa> mal eben den arbeitsplatz wechseln..
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[13:21] < fake> re holyolli
[13:21] < holyolli> re
[13:21] < huebi> hi holyolli
[13:22] < fake> sed arbeitet nur zeilenweise, right?
[13:24] < huebi> https://sourceforge.net/projects/translucency/ <- nice!
[13:24] < huebi> fake: jo.
[13:24] < fake> danke
[13:24] < huebi> im vi auch:
[13:25] < huebi> :%s/blah/blubb/g <- g macht das dann fuer alle blah, und nicht nur fuer das erste jeder Zeile
[13:25] < fake> huebi: vim
[13:25] < fake> nicht vi ;)
[13:25] < aszlig> huebi: war das 'ne frage?
[13:26] < fake> aszlig: nein
[13:26] < aszlig> fake: aha?
[13:26] < huebi> aszlig: Nee. Eine Lernerfahrung ;-)
[13:26] < fake> also wenn ich ne gesamte datei durchregexpen will.. nehem ich.. ?
[13:27] < aszlig> s/bl/ah/g
[13:27] < fake> noninteraktiv, also i vim ne schlechte idee
[13:27] < fake> is
[13:27] < fake> awk?
[13:28] < aszlig> mit awk unter vi?
[13:28] < aszlig> haeh?
[13:28] < aszlig> 'xu
[13:28] < fake> aszlig: "noninteraktiv, also is vim ne schlechte idee"
[13:29] < aszlig> perl?
[13:29] < fake> igitt
[13:29] < aszlig> wieso?
[13:29] < fake> wieso was?
[13:29] < fake> kannst du meine frage beantworten oder nicht?
[13:29] < aszlig> wieso ighitt?
[13:30] < aszlig> hmm, noe
[13:30] < fake> muss ich begruenden wieso perl igitt is??
[13:30] < huebi> fake: sed s/blah/blub/g <foo >test
[13:30] < fake> <foo > ?
[13:30] < fake> axo
[13:30] < huebi> fake: macht alle blah in foo zu blub in text
[13:30] < fake> hm... huebi: XML: <opentag>\n foo\n </closetag> is ueber mehrere zeilen...
[13:30] < huebi> fake: sed s/blah/blub/ <foo >test <- ohne g nur immer das erste einer Zeile
[13:31] < fake> soll ich erst alle newlines strippen? *g*
[13:31] < huebi> fake <- liebt einzeiler.
[13:32] < fake> huebi: der kern meiner frage ist: wie kann ich ueber x zeilen hinweg arbeiten?
[13:32] < fake> also nicht ... innerhalb einer ziele regexpen
[13:32] < fake> oder s
[13:32] < fake> o
[13:32] < huebi> fake: mit dem g hinten drann wird blah immer, egal wo, zu blub
[13:33] < huebi> sed s/blah/blub/g <foo >test <- damit meine ich
[13:33] < fake> huebi: let me see....
[13:33] < fake> (dachte ich haette das getestet )
[13:34] < fake> huebi: also... folgende Situation. xml-datei:
[13:34] < fake> <DataContent>
[13:34] < fake> blabhallbalba
[13:34] < fake> </DataContent>
[13:34] < fake> dann mache ich:
[13:34] < fake> sed "s/<DataContent>.*<\/DataContent>//gi" ./test.xml
[13:34] < fake> und heraus kommt die gleiche Datei wie vorher - weil <DataContent> und </DataContent> nicht in einer zeile sind.
[13:35] < huebi> axo *gggg*
[13:35] < huebi> mom
[13:36] < huebi> sed sZ<DataContent>.*<\/DataContent>ZZgi ./test.xml
[13:36] < huebi> so gehts
[13:36] < fake> Z ?
[13:37] < huebi> / darf, wenn als separator benutzt, nicht im Ausdruck selber vorkommen.
[13:37] < fake> aha?
[13:37] < huebi> Z kommt nicht im Ausdruck vor. Deshalb Z
[13:37] < fake> huebi: aber ich escape doch \
[13:37] < huebi> fake: aber nur fuer die bash, nicht fuer sed
[13:38] < fake> wenn ich mache sed "s/<\/DataContent>//gi" test.xml dann geht es
[13:38] < fake> deswegen ja die ""
[13:38] < aszlig> '
[13:38] < huebi> <- hat bestimmt 1h gebraucht, um das rauszufinden *g*
[13:39] < fake> es geht nicht... -__
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[13:39] < tsa> re.
[13:39] < fake> huebi: die expression an sich _ist_korrekt.
[13:39] < huebi> re tsa
[13:39] < fake> wenn ich die Newlines nach DataContent> loesche geht es auch
[13:40] < fake> ach. moment.
[13:40] < huebi> fake: Gebs der Sekretaerin und lass die das machen...*g*  Sonst weiss ich auch nicht weiter...
[13:40] < fake> huebi: oke... danke
[13:40] < huebi> s/eb/ib/
[13:40] < huebi> fake: hast du jetzt eine Loesung gefunden?
[13:41] < fake> huebi: noe, aber jetzt suche ich woanders weiter...
[13:41] < huebi> ok
[13:42] < fake> oh man... kein wunder dass gcc3 niht baut...
[13:42] < huebi> fake: erzaehl dann mal deine Loesung. das finde ich sehr interessant
[13:45] < fake> huebi: ich werde einfach die newlines nach <DataContent>\n strippen
[13:45] < fake> basta
[13:45] < huebi> ah. ok.
[13:48] < fake> shit.
[13:49] < fake> geht auch nich :(
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[13:50] < huebi> re
[13:50] < huebi> /quit anstatt /window close is much more efficient ;>
[13:58] < fake> see GAWK: Effective AWK
[13:58] < fake>                                Programming for a fuller discussion of the rules for &'s and  backslashes  in  the  replacement  text  of  sub(),
[13:58] < fake>                                gsub(), and gensub().)
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[14:21] < blindcoder> rehi
[14:21] < Freak> iher
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[14:25] < blindcoder> has anyone tried to create a Build-CD for 1.5.x? or to create a Build-CD at all?
[14:25] < fake> blindcoder: me not ;)
[14:26] < blindcoder> fake: I mean aside from my personal efforts...
[14:26] < fake> i don't know - as i am not into 1.5 at all
[14:26] < huebi> blindcoder: I modified the scripts for the installation CD but without any significiant changes.
[14:27] < huebi> blindcoder: I want to build one for the sparc64 port
[14:28] < blindcoder> hmm... i see... well, I have built something together with esden which you might be interested in...
[14:29] < huebi> blindcoder: Yes, of course I am ;-)
[14:30] < blindcoder> the complete Stage 1 with some add-ons like cdrtools and modutils that you can boot and take a source-cd and compile the complete ROCK without having to have a running ROCK installation
[14:30] < blindcoder> I'm currently testing it on a crash-and-burn-box ;)
[14:30] < fake> ich habs
[14:31] < huebi> blindcoder: kool. can I download it somewhere?
[14:32] < huebi> bbl (Sch**** Backupserver. Ein Band ist wech... )
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[14:39] < blindcoder> huebi: https://www.crash-override.net/rocklinux/becd.tbz2
[14:40] < blindcoder> the script and 2 documentation-files
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[14:40] < huebi> blindcoder: Thank you !
[14:43] < blindcoder> np
[14:44] < fake> huebi: wanna see the solution?
[14:44] < huebi> fake: Yes please ;-)
[14:44] < fake> sed \
[14:44] < fake>         "`grep -h -n "<DataContent>" $1 | awk '{ print $1+1 }' | sed s,:,,`,` \
[14:44] < fake>           grep -h -n "<\/DataContent>" $1 | awk '{ print $1-1 }' | sed s,:,,`s/<.*>\(.*\)<\/.*>/\1/gi" $1
[14:44] < fake> *wahaha*
[14:45] < huebi> Thank you. (something new to understand) ;-))
[14:46] < fake> but the +1 us unnexessary
[14:46] < fake> as is the -1
[14:49]   huebi needs reading man pages ;>
[14:50] < huebi> brb
[14:55] < rolla_> re
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[14:56] < rxr> re
[14:57] < huebi> hi rxr ;-)
[14:58] < huebi> hi rolla
[14:58] < huebi> ;-)
[14:58] < rolla> hallo
[14:58]   huebi getting something to eat...
[14:58] < blindcoder> huebi: the Build-Build script still needs improvement... terminfo and vim still missing... >_<
[15:00] < rxr> re huebi
[15:02] < fake> huebi: ein problem hat das noch. es funktioniert nur bei einem match / datei
[15:02] < fake> das mah ich jetzt ^^
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[15:12] < armijn> re
[15:17] < rolla> which is the best version of gcc3 to use to compile 1.7 ?
[15:18] < armijn> depends on the platform
[15:18] < armijn> x86?
[15:19] < rolla> yes
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[15:20] < armijn> well, grab the latest
[15:21] < rolla> 3.0.4 or 3.1 ?
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[15:21] < armijn> 3.1 is the latest
[15:21] < rolla> okay
[15:21] < rolla> thanks
[15:31] < huebi> hi armijn
[15:31] < esden> ok the gentoo testing mail is out
[15:31] < armijn> gentoo?
[15:32] < esden> yes armijn I have tested gentoo yesterday
[15:32] < esden> and wrote a mail about my experiances
[15:32] < huebi> esden: One more time without signature, please.
[15:33] < esden> huebi: >_<
[15:33]   esden sending this mail to huebi@rocklinux.org without signature
[15:33] < huebi> What means this:  >_<
[15:33] < esden> huebi: boeser blick
[15:34] < blindcoder> hi esden
[15:34] < esden> hi blindcoder
[15:34] < fake> hi esden
[15:34] < esden> blindcoder: get your mail
[15:34] < huebi> esden: Ab Freitag abend muss ich kein Outlook mehr nehmen.
[15:34] < esden> fake hi
[15:34] < esden> you too
[15:34] < esden> @ fake
[15:34] < fake> jajaja
[15:34] < blindcoder> esden: easy... I'm testing the Build-CD @ Technik-01
[15:34] < esden> huebi: endlich ... danke
[15:34] < esden> blindcoder: cool
[15:35]   fake still expanding the xmlifier
[15:35] < blindcoder> esden: packages missing: terminfo vim(!) and modules
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[15:36] < tsa> re rxr
[15:37] < esden> huebi: sent
[15:37] < huebi> esden: dankoe
[15:37] < esden> blindcoder: VIM!!!
[15:37] < esden> ;-)
[15:37] < esden> huebi: bidde
[15:38] < esden> fake: xmlifier ???
[15:40] < blindcoder> esden: du machst das mit absicht, nicht wahr?
[15:40] < fake> esden: mad awksedbash-script ;)
[15:40]   fake is replacing a stupid php script with shell scripts ;)
[15:40] < esden> blindcoder: was mache ich mit absicht ?
[15:40] < esden> fake: cool!!!
[15:41]   esden loves mad things ;-)
[15:41] < blindcoder> esden: die englische sprache genauso missbrauchen wie ich ;)
[15:41] < esden> blindcoder: sure!!!!
[15:41] < esden> I LOVE IT
[15:41] < esden> ;-)
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[15:44] < blindcoder> *argh*
[15:44] < blindcoder> gotta go... c ya l8ter
[15:44] < esden> blindcoder: ???
[15:44] < tsa> cu blindcoder
[15:44] < esden> cu blindcoder
[15:50] < snyke> esden?
[15:50] < snyke> r u here
[15:50] < snyke> ?
[15:53] < esden> snyke: yes
[15:54]   esden drinking jolt PROST
[15:54]   huebi too. Prost
[15:56] < rxr_> hi esden
[15:56] -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr
[15:56] < esden> huebi: I do not want to stress ... but have you got my mail ?
[15:56] < esden> hi rxr
[15:58] < huebi> esden: jo, I got it ;-)
[15:58] < huebi> hi rxr
[15:58] < tsa> rxr: hm...du bastelst doch an gnome2 rum..
[15:58] < rxr> tsa: tchja errr hm ...
[15:58] < esden> huebi: good ... so read it ;-)
[15:59] < tsa> rxr: fein.
[15:59] < snyke> jolt?
[15:59] < snyke> argh
[15:59] < rxr> tsa: hast du gerade ein akutes prob ?
[15:59] < huebi> esden: I just did so
[15:59] < snyke> esden: kannst du mir was vorbeibringen?
[15:59] < tsa> rxr: kann ich gtk 1.x und 2.x parallel installieren oder gibt das stress?
[15:59] < rxr> tsa: jo das tut - auch im selben prefix
[15:59] < esden> sorry for abusing the english language in this mail ...
[15:59] < tsa> rxr: ok, danke...
[15:59] < esden> snyke: was denn ?
[15:59] < tsa> dann kann ich heute abend ja mal gtk2 compilen und xchat 1.9.1 testen..
[16:00] < rxr> hehe ;-)
[16:00]   tsa will anti-aliasing.
[16:00] < tsa> das mit gdkxft und ld_preload suckt.
[16:00] < rxr> tsa: irrsi in an anti-aliased kconsole ;-) *g*
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[16:01] < snyke> esden: jolt!
[16:01] < snyke> ich bezahlt dich auch
[16:01] < esden> snyke: nope
[16:01] < snyke> fürs jolt + fahren
[16:01] < rxr> (or xterm - bu xterm has provlems with the various line characters ...)
[16:01] < snyke> :)
[16:01] < esden> snyke: sorry dass geht nicht
[16:01] < esden> dass ist karlsruhe jolt
[16:01] < esden> die wird nicht verkauft
[16:02] < snyke> ich meine ingolstädter
[16:02] < tsa> rxr: neee, ich verzichte..
[16:02] < snyke> das genügt
[16:02] < esden> asoo ... dass laesst sicht arangieren
[16:02] < rxr> tsa: <- xchat fan ?
[16:02] < tsa> rxr: jupp..
[16:03] < rxr> ah. ok. I love text mode progs - they can be used over an ssh line - and can be run remotely in screen ;-)
[16:07] < fake> how can i do hashes in bash?
[16:14] < tsa> dunno.
[16:15] < fake> Bash Reference Manual - This text is a brief description of the features that are present in the Bash shell.
[16:15] < fake> yes. sure. in 648 kb.
[16:16] < esden> *lough*
[16:21] < blindcoder> fake: You don't want to see the COMPLETE feature-description then ;)
[16:21] < blindcoder> btw. which package has `makeinfo` ?
[16:23] < esden> what is the difference between RSA and DSA ? does somebody know a good description ?
[16:23] < blindcoder> esden: the becd still doesn't work... e2fsprogs needs `makeinfo`-command in stage 1 >_<
[16:24] < huebi> blindcoder: texinfo
[16:24] < snyke> loool
[16:24] < snyke> 213.70.214.67
[16:24] < snyke> :)))
[16:24] < snyke> HUSCH HUSCH WEG HIER
[16:24] < snyke> lol
[16:24] < blindcoder> huebi: thanks
[16:24] < huebi> IMF00YC7:/opt/BackEx# grep -rl makeinfo /var/adm/flists/*
[16:24] < huebi> /var/adm/flists/emacs
[16:24] < huebi> /var/adm/flists/sendmail
[16:24] < huebi> /var/adm/flists/texinfo
[16:26] < esden> snyke: finger weg von apollo's webseite !!! ;-)
[16:27] < snyke> hehe
[16:27] < snyke> der vobis hat nen port80 scan gemacht, drum
[16:27] < snyke> auf den i-team-ingolstadt-bingo.ev ip-raum
[16:27] < fake> I was forced to use nano ... *ROFL*
[16:28] < esden> fake: ;-)
[16:28] < fake> esden: i know exactly how you must have felt. i had to use it once, too. it is uber_ugly
[16:29] < esden> fake: thanks for your understanding
[16:31] < blindcoder> esden: come on... we laughed a lot last night, didn't we ;)
[16:33] < esden> blindcoder: sure we have ... it was a very funny evening
[16:33] < esden> blindcoder: but I told you that I will mix gentoo with mud did'nt I ??? ;-)
[16:33] < blindcoder> esden: oh and btw.: I can only offer nvi, not vim, since vim is ext and nvi is base
[16:33] < blindcoder> esden: no offense meant ;)
[16:36] < esden> blindcoder: nvi is ok
[16:36] < esden> it is much better then NANO @#%$%@4~$@#
[16:36] < blindcoder> hehe, that's for sure
[16:36] < esden> we really need vi in base ...
[16:37] < snyke> wow ql! telnet://blinkenlights.nl/ <--- cinema movie via telnet *LOL*
[16:37] < esden> or better I would be very happy if we had vim in base
[16:37] < blindcoder> esden: we will have to seduce huebi if we want that...
[16:37] < esden> snyke: dass kennma schon ...
[16:38] < snyke> ich aba no ned :/
[16:38] < blindcoder> esden: do you have some spare time?
[16:38] < esden> huebi: *whistle*
[16:38] < esden> blindcoder: why ?
[16:39] < blindcoder> esden: I'm off to matthias in a few minutes to do some work that's left to be done and then back to bitz...
[16:39] < esden> huebi: wake uuuup ...
[16:40] < esden> blindcoder: i can not ... I have to wait ... because my mother wants that I help her get a bike for my brother
[16:40] < blindcoder> kill -HUP huebi
[16:40] < esden> and I have to call meli ...
[16:40] < blindcoder> living at home with parents really sucks >_<
[16:40] < esden> blindcoder: right
[16:41] < blindcoder> well... more or less :D
[16:41]   huebi on the pfone
[16:41] < blindcoder> they can be... quite helpful
[16:41] < esden> blindcoder: that is true too
[16:41] < blindcoder> hmm huebi was just restarted and is already on the telephone... *hmm*
[16:41] < blindcoder> esden: I got my final results today: final mark: 2!
[16:41] < fake> Woooo!
[16:42] < esden> 2 ... straeber !!!
[16:42] < esden> ;-)
[16:42] < blindcoder> and with that I'm the best in my group!
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[16:42] < fake> *applauds*
[16:42] < esden> hi huebi
[16:42] < esden> urgh
[16:42] < holyolli> re
[16:42] < esden> i mean holyolli
[16:42] < holyolli> *g* hi esden :)
[16:42] < blindcoder> fake: thanks *bow*
[16:42] < esden> holyolli: curl is not working on my alpha >_<
[16:43] < esden> it is dropping cores !!! >_<
[16:43] < holyolli> oh. in what way?
[16:43] < holyolli> args
[16:43] < holyolli> the same as joe on my alpha does :-(
[16:43] < blindcoder> esden: throwing... not dropping...
[16:43] < esden> it drops it during the name resolution
[16:43] < esden> blindcoder: yes right sory ... and thanks
[16:43] < tsa> hi holyolli
[16:43] < holyolli> hi tsa
[16:44] < fake> throw seg, drop core?
[16:44] < fake> dump core
[16:44] < fake> that's it
[16:44] < esden> dumping core
[16:44] < holyolli> hehe
[16:44] < esden> hmm ...
[16:44] < fake> you throw a signal, but you dump a core.
[16:44] < esden> that is prebably the right one
[16:44] < esden> smash core
[16:44] < esden> ;-)
[16:44] < fake> eat core
[16:45] < holyolli> buah!
[16:45] < blindcoder> Ulch! That food was tainted...
[16:45] < blindcoder> You feel deathly sick...
[16:45] < esden> I have to go help my mother get a bike for my brother
[16:45] < esden> >_<
[16:45] < blindcoder> esden: have fun ;)
[16:45] < esden> cu l8er
[16:45] < holyolli> cu esden
[16:46] < fake> cya!
[16:46] < fake> blindcoder: did you get NWN et?
[16:46] < blindcoder> fake: nope
[16:46] < blindcoder> no time >_<
[16:46] < fake> blindcoder: then take your time.... it's _really_ worth it!
[16:46] < blindcoder> you can dump it on my FTP ;)
[16:47] < blindcoder> is the linux-version ready to use?
[16:47] < fake> blindcoder: mldonkey is _much_ faster. i got the 3 cds in half a day.
[16:47] < blindcoder> send me the ed2k:// s
[16:47] < fake> blindcoder: sheareactor
[16:47] < fake> sharereactor.com
[16:47] < blindcoder> yukai
[16:48] < fake> blindcoder: the linux version is not _yet_ released....
[16:48] < fake> but you'll need the win-cds anyways.
[16:48] < blindcoder> yeah sure... but I have some trouble with my win-installation... and no win-cds lying around...
[16:50] < fake> blindcoder: i'm sure you will be equiped with _plenty_ if you ask zero ;)
[16:50] < blindcoder> *WAAAAH*
[16:50] < blindcoder> ILL DO IT AT HOME!!
[16:50] < blindcoder> I'm not used to pop-ups anymore...
[16:50] < blindcoder> and no mozilla around...
[16:51] < fake> blindcoder: ssh apollo -x w3m https://www.sharereactor.com
[16:51] < huebi> 16:33 < blindcoder> esden: oh and btw.: I can only offer nvi, not vim, since vim is ext and nvi is base
[16:51] < fake> ;-)
[16:51] < blindcoder> huebi: yes?
[16:51] < huebi> vim will be in opt
[16:52] < blindcoder> oh... cool ;) then I'll see what 1.5.17 will bring ;)
[16:52] < blindcoder> fake: I'm on a Win-Box right now...
[16:52] < fake> blindcoder: so? putty!
[16:52] < blindcoder> fake: hai, hai... lazyness, okaY?
[16:53]   tsa reading esden's mail
[16:53] < blindcoder> okay, I'm now off to matthias... getting a keyboard like esden has *hehe*
[16:55] < fake> blindcoder: baka.
[16:55] < huebi> cu blindcoder
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[17:03] < rolla> hmm my 1.7 x86 build cannot find the gcc3 I just installed :(
[17:12] < rolla> hmm odd it found it once I linked it into /usr/bin instead of /usr/local/bin
[17:13] < rolla> dang that didn't work :(
[17:20] < [anders]> hohum.. time to get OpenSSH 3.3
[17:20] < huebi> [anders]: jo!
[17:21] < [anders]> wonder if my old sshd_config will work with it..
[17:21] < SMP> [anders]: how old is it?
[17:22] < [anders]> SMP: a few days..
[17:22] < [anders]> Oh, you ment my config, uhm.. it worked with 3.1 and 3.2.2
[17:22] < SMP> changes from 3.2 to 3.3 are rather few
[17:22] < SMP> it'll do
[17:23] < [anders]> yeah.. now I just have to find the archive.. :)
[17:23] < huebi> [anders]: https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/openssh/
[17:24] < [anders]> I ment the openssh.tar.gz.. :)
[17:24] < fake> hehe. awk rulez.
[17:24] < huebi> ftp://ftp.openbsd.com/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/
[17:24] < [anders]> huebi: cheers.. :)
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[17:28] < [anders]> humma.. hacking the openssh.pz file, running Puzzle and then Build-Pkg is so easy.. :)
[17:30] < huebi> [anders]: ;-))))))
[17:31] < huebi> one reason I use ROCK Linux...
[17:31] < [anders]> ok, the new openssh required a user sshd created and a directory /var/empty created, that's it..
[17:31] < [anders]> installed.
[17:32] < huebi> rocklinux.dyndns.org also needs many updates and some hardware changes.
[17:33]   [anders] have started to order the bits for the Shuttle SS40G
[17:33] < huebi> kool
[17:33] < [anders]> Da.. Will enjoy a fast machine lots.. :)
[17:33] < [anders]> Will probably put Debian on there to start with.. Need a system to build Rock with..
[17:34] < [anders]> and Debian supports devfs as well as allows install over the net..
[17:34] < huebi> [anders]: why not just get an ISO?
[17:34] < [anders]> My ROCK 1.4.0 cd's are a little old..
[17:34] < [anders]> No cd/rw
[17:34] < huebi> of ROCK 1.5.16
[17:34] < huebi> hmm
[17:35] < [anders]> If I install debian, I can keep that up2date easily and I can have a compiler station in a few hours..
[17:36] < huebi> cu later. I go home
[17:37] < rolla> are there problems with gcc3.1 and perl on rock 1.7 ??
[17:40] < tsa> perl problem should be resolved in current snapshots, IIRC ..
[17:41] < esden> re hi all
[17:41] < rolla> when did it come out ?
[17:42] < simon-> fake
[17:42] < rxr> rolla: yes the prob is fixed
[17:42] < simon-> are you there?
[17:42] < rxr> it was caused by the new /usr/local/include handling of gcc
[17:43] < rxr> it emmits a warning - and this warning makes many configure script check (like the ones in perl) fail
[17:43] < rxr> we now use our gcc wrapper to remove the -I/usr/local/include from the gcc options.
[17:43] < fake> simon- yes?
[17:43] < rolla> :) thanks
[17:44]   [anders] off home now..
[17:44] < [anders]> cya guys....
[17:44] < simon-> fake it didn't work :-(
[17:44] < rxr> cd [anders]
[17:44] < rxr> er cu ;-)
[17:44] < simon-> you know.. the dup2 thing
[17:44] < fake> simon- still the same error?
[17:45] < fake> were there errors on your fs?
[17:45] < [anders]> rxr: *grin*
[17:45] < simon-> fake still the same.. the filesystem is ok.. both disk are in the raid..
[17:45] < [anders]> ~~~
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[17:45] < simon-> fake none
[17:45] < fake> simon- if you boot from the bootdisks and chroot into your system and mount proc by hand - does it work?
[17:46] < simon-> fake yes it does..
[17:46] < fake> what distribution are you using? rock?
[17:46] < simon-> fake i better should
[17:46] < simon-> redhat
[17:46] < fake> *ugh*
[17:47] < fake> well, what happened, then?
[17:47] < rolla> fake it is not that bad ;)
[17:47] < fake> did you update/change anything?
[17:49] < simon-> fake sorry.. mein chef ;-)
[17:49] < simon-> fake we had a powerloss, yesterday
[17:49] < fake> let's switch to german ;)
[17:49] < fake> hm...
[17:49] < simon-> fake ok :-)
[17:49] < simon-> also szenraio:
[17:49] < fake> powerloss heisst ueblicherweise fs-problem...
[17:49] < simon-> stromausfall gestern..
[17:49] < simon-> ext3
[17:50] < simon-> root raid1 software
[17:50] < simon-> mit rh 7.2
[17:50] < simon-> hdds beide ok
[17:50] < simon-> alle filesysteme ok
[17:50] < simon-> kann auf jedes filesystem zugreifen
[17:51] < simon-> raidstart mit rescue cd ok
[17:51] < fake> do you use the same kernel on the rescue cd and in your system?
[17:51] < simon-> fake.. den fehler gabs mal in der kernel mailingliste.. hat aber nie jemand geantwortet (ein jahr her)
[17:51] < fake> shit. wollte ja deutsch ;)
[17:51] < simon-> 2.4.7 rescue cd
[17:52] < simon-> 2.4.19-pre8 normales system
[17:52] < simon-> fake sollte es daran liegen?
[17:52] < simon-> das system is eigentlich so konzipiert das es selbst mit einer hdd bootet und läuft.
[17:53] < simon-> dank grub.
[17:53] < fake> hm... wie is nochmal die genaue fehlermeldung?
[17:53] < simon-> dup2: bad file descriptor
[17:53] < fake> simon- : man dup2
[17:54] < simon-> mounting /proc filesystem is rh eigen
[17:54] < fake> irgendwo in den startupscripten wird dup2 ausgefuerht, auf etwas, das es nicht gibt
[17:54] < fake> fahre das rescue-system hoch, mounte die platte und mach am besten irgendwo in dem redhat-startupskrietn-gewirr-verzeichnis ein
[17:54] < fake> grep -r dup2 * | grep proc
[17:54] < fake> oder so
[17:55] < fake> wenn der nix findet dann das hintere grep weglassen
[17:55] < simon-> hmm, ok.. das mach ich hier mal
[17:55] < simon-> bin gleich wieder da.. :-)
[17:55] < fake> viel glueck!
[17:57] < simon-> nirgendwo ..
[17:59] < fake> oh-ja-das keonnte dran liegen dass dup2 eine C-Funktion is, wie mir gerade auffaellt.
[17:59] < fake> hast du gdb installiert?
[17:59] < fake> schmarrn
[17:59] < fake> bringt ja auch nix
[17:59] < simon-> im "haupt_init_script" habe ich aber die zeile gefunden die dafür verantwortlich ist: mount -n -t proc /proc /proc
[17:59] < fake> -n ?
[17:59] < fake> das muss heissen
[17:59] < fake> mount -t proc none /proc
[18:00] < simon-> -n heißt das er nicht in /etc/mtab schreit
[18:00] < simon-> s/schreit/schreibt
[18:00] < simon-> kann mir nicht vorstellen das es daran liegt.
[18:01] < fake> hm... aber daran dass da 2 mal /proc steht
[18:01] < fake> cut&paste die zeile mal (*g*) in die rescue-shell
[18:01] < fake> nach dem chroot
[18:01] < fake> und schau ob es da den gleichen fehler gibt
[18:01] < simon-> das ist bei rh so..
[18:01] < simon-> nope
[18:02] < simon-> gibts nicht
[18:02] < fake> gdb mount -t proc none /proc
[18:02] < fake> backtrace
[18:02] < simon-> das ist nicht nur bei proc so.. das ist bei allem
[18:02] < fake> dann is wohl dein mount im arsch? o_O
[18:03] < simon-> der wirft mich ja auf eine shell wenn ich das system so starte, dort kann ich mount ohne probleme nutzen.
[18:04] < simon-> ich schau mal.. hab eine platte ausgebaut. ich meld mich nochmal. aber danke für die hilfe!!
[18:04] < simon-> bis nachher..
[18:04] < fake> sorry dass ich dir nich weiterhelfen kann...
[18:04] < fake> viel glueck noch
[18:04] < simon-> fake ich werds brauchen! danke trotzdem!
[18:14] < esden> ...
[18:14]   fake l4m3r
[18:15] < esden> yepp ;-)
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[18:21] < rolla> :(
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[18:57] < esden> linux kernel rc1 is out !!!!!
[18:57] < tsa> ..und wech
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[19:11] < fake> YES
[19:11] < fake> finally i killed that damn XML
[19:11] < fake> BITCH
[19:11] < fake> *jumps around*
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[19:11] < armijn> re
[19:12] < fake> re!
[19:12] < armijn> !
[19:12] < fake>   ?
[19:12] < fake>   |
[19:12] < fake>   +---->
[19:12] < armijn> moo!
[19:12] < fake> meow?
[19:12] < armijn> beeeh
[19:12] < fake> bzzz
[19:13] < armijn> so, will Korea beat Germany as well?
[19:13] < fake> i hope so
[19:13] < armijn> same here
[19:13] < fake> Korea rulez
[19:13] < armijn> but that's just because it's Germany ;-)
[19:13] < fake> ;P
[19:13] < armijn> hey, of course, they've got a Dutch coach :)
[19:13] < fake> *LOL*
[19:13] < fake> and an italian goalkeeper, IIRC
[19:13] < armijn> well, not that I know of...
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[19:14] < fake> i may very well be wrong. i am proud to be a soccer lamer
[19:14] < armijn> heheh
[19:14] < armijn> lamer
[19:14] < armijn> well, football can be fun (please, don't say soccer, that's for americans)
[19:14] < armijn> especially placing bets :)
[19:15] < fake> soccer soccer! :P
[19:15] < armijn> lamer lamer!
[19:17] < fake> bow before me, for i am lame!
[19:17] < fake> ;-)
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[19:18] < armijn> hi cchamilt
[19:18] < cchamilt> Hello everybody
[19:18] < cchamilt> Have the Gentoo people been by to beat up on esden?
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[19:18] < cchamilt> I figured it would happen by now.
[19:19] < armijn> hehehe
[19:19] < armijn> no, but that's because we've got fake
[19:19] < armijn> and fake is lame!
[19:19] < armijn> <fake> bow before me, for i am lame!
[19:19] < fake> hi cchamilt!
[19:20] < cchamilt> Hello
[19:20] < armijn> cchamilt: say hi to yocelyn :)
[19:21] < cchamilt> armijn: done.
[19:21] < fake> cchamilt: ask her what's so funny about VW buses.
[19:21] < armijn> the old ones? from the 70s?
[19:21] < armijn> they're soooo cool
[19:21] < esden> re hi all
[19:21] < armijn> you can fit lots of stuff in them
[19:21] < esden> muhuhuhu
[19:21] < armijn> lots of beer :)
[19:22] < cchamilt> fake: she does not recall the discussion.
[19:22] < armijn> she drank all the beer from on of the buses
[19:22] < armijn> so she forgot
[19:22] < fake> cchamilt: :_: so that's what discussions with me/esden are worth for her .... *cries*
[19:22] < fake> well. as i am lame, i deserve no better.
[19:22] < armijn> fake: well, I bet you don't recall our conversations from HAL/CCC
[19:23] < fake> armijn: you were on HAL? ;)
[19:23] < armijn> fake: grrr!
[19:23] < fake> *roaaaar*
[19:23]   armijn takes out his LART
[19:23] < cchamilt> fake: she says she doesn't want to talk about it
[19:23] < fake> catfight!
[19:23] < armijn> *HIIIISSSSSSSS*
[19:24] < esden> hi cchamilt
[19:24] < cchamilt> fake: I am not sure what you guys discussed. Hmmm
[19:24] < fake> cchamilt: okay. i'll bug her on CCC.
[19:24] < esden> so by the way ;-)
[19:24] < armijn> maybe somethign about making love in VW buses?
[19:24] < cchamilt> Who wants to come to Singapore?
[19:24] < armijn> cchamilt: depends
[19:24]   esden ... but when and for what money
[19:25] < armijn> esden: chris sent an e-mail out about the "when"!
[19:25]   esden = no money man
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[19:25] < fake> cchamilt: bringing weed along wouldn't be a good idea, right?
[19:25] < cchamilt> So far swanky hotels and possibly free airfare.  Budgets...
[19:25] < esden> armijn: I know
[19:25] < freed> hi @ll
[19:25]   esden checking
[19:25] < armijn> hmm...what's "swanky"
[19:25] < armijn> as in "crappy"?
[19:25] < cchamilt> No week please.
[19:25] < cchamilt> weed that is.
[19:25] < freed> rxr?
[19:25] < armijn> fake: you should come to .nl for that...
[19:25] < fake> cchamilt: that strikes out the most productive developers ;))
[19:26] < armijn> fake: at least it's "allowed" here...
[19:26] < cchamilt> As in $300 a night.
[19:26] < fake> oh. as in "*****".
[19:26] < armijn> cchamilt: as in, bloody expensive...
[19:26] < armijn> wow.
[19:26] < cchamilt> fake: They claim so...
[19:26] < armijn> hehe, I thought fake was censoring himself :))
[19:26] < cchamilt> We may allow you to use the budget on airfare instead.
[19:26] < freed> rxr: hi martin hier. was machten kdevelop?
[19:27] < armijn> hey du! ja, jawohl!
[19:27] < armijn> setenv LANG=de_DE
[19:27] < fake> cchamilt: it involved something about giving a talk, right?
[19:27] < cchamilt> We just allocate speaker per attendee estimates. So....
[19:27] < cchamilt> fake: Yep, A real paper.
[19:27] < armijn> cchamilt: you might want to limit the budget for foreign speakers
[19:27] < rxr> hi freed
[19:27] < armijn> cchamilt: that's what we do at the NLUUG
[19:28] < fake> cchamilt: i'm ugly. i won't bug the listeners.
[19:28] < cchamilt> armijn:We only get foreign developers
[19:28] < armijn> fake: so are the audience ;-)
[19:28] < rxr> freed: are you martin or freed ???
[19:28] < freed> lol beides
[19:28] < armijn> hmm...sounds like someone is having an identity crisis there...
[19:28] < freed> sind im ini, nexus is online ;)
[19:28] < esden> ok the time is ok
[19:28] < esden> @ cchamilt
[19:28] < armijn> cchamilt: webpage?
[19:29] < cchamilt> We'll have BOFs too, but only free attendance for speaking there.
[19:29] < rxr> freed: what's up ?
[19:29] < esden> cchamilt: money is a problem
[19:29] < freed> na der mirror is wieder online
[19:29] < cchamilt> armijn:no page yet.  Hell I can't confirm the date.
[19:29] < cchamilt> I was supposed to announce the call yesterday...
[19:29] < armijn> cchamilt: I've got your e-mail in front of me...
[19:30]   armijn quotes
[19:30] < armijn> "It is tentatively scheduled for the 25th through the 27th."
[19:30] < cchamilt> Well we can try and get airfare or maybe an airline sponsor.
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[19:30] < armijn> already scheduling a trip to france a bit earlier...
[19:30] < cchamilt> It is just not likely that we can do it for everyone.
[19:30] < armijn> but yeah, I'm interested...
[19:30] < armijn> cchamilt: have you seen our call for papers?
[19:30] < armijn> https://www.nluug.nl/events/nj02/index.html
[19:30] < armijn> https://www.nluug.nl/events/nj02/cfp-uk.html
[19:31] < armijn> (the latter)
[19:31] < armijn> hmmm...back in a few
[19:31] < cchamilt> armijn:Just now...
[19:33] < cchamilt> Well anyways, I just want ideas for papers right now.
[19:33] < cchamilt> We want to interest the SME market, but anything is OK.
[19:34] < fake> SME?
[19:34] < cchamilt> Small/Medium Enterprises
[19:34] < fake> aw. Clusters.
[19:34] < cchamilt> Yeah, no...
[19:34] < fake> we-cluster-everything paper.
[19:35] < cchamilt> Its the market that all the big Unix companies added Linux extensions for.
[19:35] < fake> ah?
[19:35] < fake> like?
[19:35] < cchamilt> So they can upgrade you to a better platform with Unix stability, Linux like compatibility.
[19:35] < fake> IBM, Sun?
[19:36] < cchamilt> AS/400s running as Lotus notes servers. That sort of wasteful crap.
[19:36] < fake> oh. wow. what sort of papers would you expect?
[19:36] < cchamilt> Yep.
[19:36] < armijn> will there be developers?
[19:36] < fake> (I guess PS2-Clusters won't work ;)
[19:36] < cchamilt> No clue really. We ere hoping for anecdotal roll-out stories.
[19:37] < cchamilt> I have no idea how we can do developers yet.
[19:37] < fake> live hacking. dresscode.
[19:37] < cchamilt> We are going with a 'business' track and a 'technical' track.
[19:37] < armijn> I could talk about stuff like "software portability"
[19:37] < armijn> so, that's software engineering
[19:38] < fake> i could talk about how to replace linux with windows.
[19:38] < armijn> think CVS, think GNU AutoTools, etc.
[19:38] < fake> ;)
[19:38] < cchamilt> We will have tutorials, but it would be in using a tool or program.
[19:38] < fake> aaw. armijn, i've got a ques
[19:38] < armijn> cchamilt: a tutorial about software portability? :)
[19:38] < armijn> fake: shoot
[19:38] < fake> armijn: do you know the "autoconf"-uglyness of gcc3 ?
[19:39] < cchamilt> dresscode is anything.  I think it would be great to loosen up Asia.
[19:39] < armijn> fake: nope, but it sounds like it's ugly :)
[19:39] < fake> armijn: about softare piracy ;)
[19:39] < armijn> cchamilt: I'll think about something
[19:39] < cchamilt> Well anything is fine, even goofy stuff like replacing windows.
[19:39] < fake> armijn: configure.in is a shell script if you run autoconf in the directory - it doesnt complain. no-no. it produes a configure-script. 0 bytes size.
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[19:40] < cchamilt> That is why I want ideas, We are clueless.
[19:40] < armijn> cchamilt: just Linux?
[19:40] < cchamilt> armijn:Open source is fine.
[19:40] < armijn> cchamilt: give me a few minutes and I'll mail you a list :)
[19:40] < armijn> cchamilt: ok
[19:41] < cchamilt> fake:What version of automake, etc are you using?
[19:41] < fake> cchamilt: 2.53
[19:41] < fake> autoconf
[19:41] < fake> automake 1.6 and yes, i have a running perl.
[19:42] < fake> (thanks to rxr !)
[19:42] < cchamilt> fake:I think it was once an update (1.5) that I saw something like that.
[19:42] < fake> im a 1.7..
[19:42] < fake> aw, what the hell. i'll have a look at it again. at home.
[19:42] < fake> where i'm heading. cya
[19:43] < cchamilt> fake:No automake vers, anyway cya.
[19:43] < armijn> cchamilt: working on a list...
[19:43] < cchamilt> I should probably go soon too.
[19:43] < cchamilt> I have an SP4 to play with tomorrow.  Yumm AIX.
[19:43] < armijn> cchamilt: that's why I'm sending it by mail :)
[19:43] < armijn> urgh
[19:45] < cchamilt> esden:Could you play with gentoo's downloading?
[19:45] < esden> cchamilt: yes i could
[19:45] < esden> why ?
[19:45] < cchamilt> esden:I heard they had link problems?
[19:46] < cchamilt> esden:Just wanted to compare their package capability with ours.
[19:46] < esden> hmm ... ok ... i will look in it
[19:47] < esden> and then I will write another mail
[19:47] < cchamilt> Well, I think I should go.  I'll try and come back tomorrow.
[19:47] < armijn> cu
[19:47] < cchamilt> esden:Good!
[19:47] < esden> cchamilt: could you write something to the mailinglist ... so that there is some discussion or so ?
[19:47] < esden> till now there was no reaction ...
[19:47] < cchamilt> I'll try and have a call for papers tomorrow.
[19:47] < armijn> esden: oh, I read it...
[19:48] < armijn> esden: just no time to respond so far
[19:48] < esden> armijn: ahh ok ...
[19:48] < cchamilt> OK. Bye all.
[19:48] < armijn> cchamilt: in about an hour you've got a list
[19:48] < armijn> cu
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[19:53] < huebi> re
[19:55] < esden> re huebi
[19:58] < huebi> esden: what sort of memory does the alphastation 443a need?
[19:59] < esden> huebi: no idea ...
[19:59] < esden> i have not looked for it
[19:59] < esden> i need memory for my pws433
[19:59] < huebi> esden: What alphastation do you have?
[20:00] < esden> the name is ... personal workstation 433 and i have also a alphastation 255
[20:00] < esden> i can look inside and check what ram is in it
[20:01] < huebi> esden: is the box ripclaw offered the same as yours?
[20:01] < esden> no the bok ripclaw offers is faster then mine
[20:01] < armijn> it's expensiive money
[20:02] < esden> huebi: it is not the tower model i had on lt ... but a desktop thingy
[20:02] < armijn> hi huebi!
[20:02] < esden> normally in gray/blue color
[20:02] < huebi> hi armijn ;-)
[20:02] < huebi> esden: he says that it is the same as yours...
[20:03] < armijn> urgh, want 1.5.16 changelog
[20:03] < huebi> armijn: I did some stuff on sparc64 but I still have to fix the kernel package.
[20:03] < esden> huebi: the modules look like simm modules
[20:03] < esden> but i do not think that they are the same
[20:04] < huebi> esden: ECC? registered?
[20:04] < huebi> SDRAM like modules?
[20:04] < armijn> huebi: as in, need better config?
[20:04] < huebi> or PS/2 Modules
[20:04] < armijn> huebi: did you fix stuff?
[20:05] < esden> huebi: looks like ps2
[20:05] < esden> I will look online
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[20:05] < esden> re rolla
[20:05] < rolla> re
[20:05] < huebi> armijn: config now ok. the kernel now compiles
[20:05] < huebi> +is
[20:06] < huebi> but there are the asebler files doubled in linux and linux-src
[20:07] < huebi> hi rolla
[20:07] < rolla> hallo
[20:09] < esden> huebi: "A PC164SX takes plain PC100 SDRAM (unbuffered, non-ECC)"
[20:09] < huebi> kool
[20:09] < esden> hmm ... no idea if the motherboard in as is a sx
[20:09]   esden checking
[20:11] < armijn> huebi: but you said you still have to fix the kernel package....
[20:12] < huebi> armijn: Yes. There are files in linux and also in linux-src. But now the kernel compiles and works.
[20:12] < armijn> so, then what's the problem?
[20:12] < esden> huebi: The AlphaStation 200 series takes standard 60ns or 70ns 72 pin parity
[20:12] < esden> simms.  The sizes it will work with are 8, 16, 32 & 64 meg simms, that must be
[20:12] < esden> added in pairs.  I would suspect that yours will take the same.
[20:13] < fake> re.
[20:13] < huebi> esden: How many Pins do the simms have?
[20:13] < fake> 172 ?
[20:14] < fake> esden is counting ;)
[20:14] < huebi> 168 or 72
[20:14] < esden> 72-pin SIMM
[20:14] < fake> *ugh*
[20:14] < esden> in the 200 alphastation
[20:14] < huebi> and in the big one?
[20:14] < fake> esden: you are counting pretty fast.
[20:14] < huebi> there should be 168 pins
[20:15] < huebi> if you have 184 it's a sun
[20:15] < fake> who counts these pins??
[20:15] < armijn> well, esden of course!
[20:15]   esden contitues the search
[20:16] < huebi> fake: It's not clear what sort of simm is meant by esden. Best to count the pins
[20:16] < fake> huebi: oh, and measure the current
[20:17] < huebi> fake: and the voltage...
[20:17] < fake> and if they break when you jump onto them
[20:18] < fake> how they taste, smell.... etc ;)
[20:18] < fake> huebi: how was the bbq ?
[20:18] < huebi> there a also DRAMs (nomally 72) with the size of SDRAM (168 pins)
[20:18] < fake> the one is DIMM, the other SIMM
[20:20] < huebi> fake: Very, very nice. Many different people, interesting talks.
[20:20] < fake> damn it. that's not what i wanted to hear ;)
[20:20] < huebi> fake PS/2 SIMM and SIMM (30 pins)
[20:21] < huebi> and Ella eating some dirt and saying "lecker" - big loughing
[20:21] < armijn> huebi: so, are there any problems left on sparc64?
[20:21] < armijn> well, dirt can be really nice...
[20:21] < armijn> :)
[20:22] < fake> hehe. SIMM. reminds me of the good times.
[20:22] < fake> wheren't that 32? i dunno - i never counted them ;))
[20:23] < huebi> I have old FastPageMode SIMMs with parity in my SparcStation IPX
[20:23] < rolla> :)\
[20:23] < armijn> huebi: got an IPX?
[20:23]   fake exchanged "his" IPC for a SS5.
[20:23] < esden> huebi: there is no sure answer for your question ... some people say that it is ok ... and other people say that as need 36bit ram and not 32bit .. strange
[20:24] < huebi> armijn: Yes there are. Silo e. g. must be fixed for devfs and needs a working silo.conf
[20:24] < armijn> huebi: I thought silo had been fixed for devfs...
[20:24] < armijn> or was that just rippi talking...
[20:24] < huebi> fake: kool deal.
[20:24] < huebi> sun4m for an old sun4c
[20:24] < esden> huebi: https://www.venturatech.com/digital.html
[20:24] < fake> huebi: yes, because the IPC was broken - not only the on-die-battery, but also the power supply.
[20:25] < rolla> fake: I got an old SS2 :)
[20:25] < fake> i've got a ss20 at work
[20:25] < esden> rolla: I have also a ss2
[20:25] < armijn> I've got an Ultra1
[20:25] < fake> but i can't get it :( not our's
[20:25] < rolla> my prom is dead in it :(
[20:25] < armijn> and two javastations
[20:25] < rolla> yeah I had a java station around here somewhere
[20:26]   fake will get an HP Server 9000 really soon
[20:26] < huebi> fake: I gave away my IPC with 64MB! fully loaded and a CG6 because the onboard bwtwo war broken.
[20:26] < fake> cg6? bwtwo?
[20:26] < armijn> huebi: but devfs hasn't been fixed? I thought rippi said it was!
[20:26] < fake> armijn: you will do the hppa port, right?
[20:27] < huebi> rolla: The prom costs about 10 to 15 $  SG Microelectronics
[20:27] < rolla> website ??
[20:27] < armijn> fake: nope, not anymore. Don't have hppa right now
[20:27] < armijn> fake: sparc first
[20:27] < armijn> fake: sparc64 first, then alpha and sparc
[20:27] < huebi> rolla: SGS Tomson?
[20:27] < huebi> rolla: mom
[20:27] < fake> armijn: unfortunately i will not be allowed to sell/give away the machine :(
[20:28] < rolla> that sucks
[20:28] < fake> armijn: but i'll be able to port a bit. but i will not maintain it - mips is first ;)
[20:28] < armijn> fake: ah, all my machines are like that :)
[20:28] < rolla> I hate it when companies do that :(
[20:28]   armijn pokes huebi
[20:28] < huebi> rolla: https://www.us.st.com/stonline/index.htm
[20:28] < rolla> danke
[20:29] < fake> rolla: it's about where the machine goes after you strike it out of the records
[20:29] < armijn> huebi: but devfs hasn't been fixed? I thought rippi said it was!
[20:30] < rolla> true
[20:30] < huebi> armijn: He called me, and he wants to have it done till the weekend. But he has no sparc arround and is in Munich on a sun training
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[20:30] < fake> in munich on a SUN training. and no sparc around. *argh*
[20:30]   fake wants to be in munich too
[20:30] < armijn> heh, I don't want to be in munich
[20:30] < huebi> rolla: below the yello mark with the ethernet ID you have the IC name.
[20:31] < huebi> +w
[20:31] < fake> armijn: think about all the good b33r!
[20:31] < armijn> fake: not very fond of german beer...
[20:31] < rolla> no :(
[20:31] < rolla> box is at home I am at work
[20:32] < fake> armijn: german wine, perhaps?
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[20:32] < owl> hi
[20:32] < fake> hi owl!
[20:32] < huebi> hi owl
[20:32] < armijn> huebi: so, the devfs fix will have to wait...hmm...not funny...but then there are still other packages that need to be fixed
[20:32] < rolla> re owl
[20:32] < armijn> fake: nah, belgian and dutch beer :)
[20:32] < huebi> armijn: stout!
[20:32] < fake> *urgh* i had that at HAL
[20:33] < armijn> fake: was that Heineken?
[20:33] < armijn> or Grolsch?
[20:33] < fake> armijn: both.
[20:33] < armijn> Grolsch is the only dutch beer that follows the reinheitsgebot
[20:33] < armijn> but Heineken is just gross
[20:33] < huebi> flood of sparc64 errors following
[20:33] < huebi> root@rock:/var/tmp # ls -tr 3*
[20:33] < huebi> 3-nasm.err           3-gnome-utils.err    3-rep-gtk.err
[20:33] < huebi> 3-linux.err          3-gnome-network.err  3-sawfish.err
[20:33] < huebi> 3-mtools.err         3-gedit.err          3-apmd.err
[20:33] < huebi> 3-alsa.err           3-galeon.err         3-softdog.err
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[20:33] < huebi> 3-libgtop.err        3-nautilus.err       3-pcmcia-cs.err
[20:34] < huebi> 3-gdm.err            3-gtop.err           3-iproute2.err
[20:34] < huebi> 3-gnome-core.err     3-eog.err            3-openssh.err
[20:34] < huebi> 3-gnome-applets.err  3-xscreensaver.err
[20:34] < huebi>
[20:34] < armijn> fake: it would be like saying that all german beer is gross, because I don't like Warsteiner...
[20:34] < huebi> hi rene
[20:34]   owl is confused right now. is it channel about beer or linux? ;P
[20:34] < fake> armijn: yeah yeah. please... i want that last bit of national proud ;)
[20:34] < huebi> rxr: 3-libgtop.err <- did you fix it for sparc64?
[20:34] < armijn> huebi: I think it might be because of kernel errors...
[20:34] < huebi> owl: about OpenBeer
[20:35] < fake> from the Redmond Hills
[20:35] < owl> omg! ;)
[20:36]   fake saw an original UltraSparc beer bottle.
[20:36] < fake> in langen ;)
[20:36] < huebi> Original Harley Beer in 5l bins coms here from Pfungstadt.
[20:37] < huebi> +e
[20:37] < fake> b33r rul3z
[20:37] < rolla> 133t b33r ?
[20:39] < huebi> The CEO of my prefered berr Grohe Export did die 3 Months ago... very sad and very good beer. Also avaliable in 30 , 50 and bigger wooden barrels.
[20:40] < huebi> big fun on parties this Beer.
[20:41] < armijn> heheheh
[20:41] < huebi> I have to leave getting some gyrotwisters - https://www.gyrotwister.de/netscape/index.php4
[20:41] < huebi> I'll be back at 22:00 MET
[20:42] < armijn> heheh
[20:42] < armijn> huebi will build muscles!
[20:42] < armijn> so he can type better
[20:42] < armijn> have fun!
[20:45] < armijn> he needs that
[20:52] < armijn> yeah, am off
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[21:10] < fake> *grrr* why can't i understand that damn configure script?
[21:11] < rolla> cause it is written in greek ?
[21:16] < fake> rolla: no. because it's broken.
[21:17] < fake> it says: "If we are on a mips machine, don't use libffi."
[21:17] < fake> but then: "If we are building gcj, include libffi anyways."
[21:17] < fake> so it seems
[21:18] < rolla> :)
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[21:35] < fake> *ARGH*
[21:35] < fake> i simply have to specify --target, not --host !!
[21:35] < [anders]> :)
[21:35] < fake> what a stupid configure script ....
[21:35] < rolla> that sucks
[21:37] < fake> YES. finally...
[21:37] < fake> boy.... 2 days of digging into shell scripts... just for a --target not --host >_<
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[21:41] < tsa> re
[21:45] < fake> re tsa
[21:55] < tsa> hi fake
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[22:10] < term_aweh> good night
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[22:12] < [anders]> Ho hum.. just ordered all apart from the Shuttle Barebone case.. Only £1100 quid.... *AAAAAAAAAARRRRGHHHHHH!!!!*
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[22:21] < esden> re hi all
[22:22] < owl> re esden
[22:23] < ringo78> re esden
[22:37] < esden> ok ... another mail sent to rocklinux mailinglist about gentoo
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[22:51] < ringo78> whats the mather with the rock read only sub-distro ? Is it discontunued ?
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[22:52] < ringo78> s/discontunued/discontinued
[22:52] < holyolli> re
[22:58] < esden> re holyolli
[22:58] < holyolli> hi esden
[22:58] < esden> ringo78: I have not heard anything about it for long time now
[22:58]   esden copying alpha stuff to his home
[22:59] < holyolli> esden: which? 1.5?
[23:01] < ringo78> I'll give it a try tomorrow, got to sleep .... n8 alle !
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[23:03] < esden> holyolli: no the html pages
[23:07] < fake> wow... gcc3 finished already?
[23:08] < fake> ow. stage1. yes. c-only ;)
[23:11] < rolla> cool fake
[23:13] < fake> rolla: stage1 always worked ;)
[23:14] < rolla> ah
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[23:49] < huebi> MoeP!
[23:49] < th> huch
[23:51] < huebi> On my way home a drunken man wrecked my car and tried to drive away.
[23:51] < huebi> th Post ? ;-)
[23:54] < huebi> I got him. hehe
[23:56] < tsa> hmm...
[23:56] < tsa> how drunk was he?
[23:57] < huebi> not too much. He was still able to walk but not to drive in the normal way.
[23:58] < huebi> he had not lost his mother toung
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Tue Jun 25 00:00:14 2002