-!- Irrsi  Log opened Tue Jun 25 00:00:14 2002
-!- Irrsi  Day changed Tue Jun 25 2002
[00:00] < tsa> hehe
[00:01] < esden> kk
[00:01] < esden> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/alpha/
[00:01] < esden> bit updated
[00:01] < huebi> I must have a look if there was no SUN workstation in the trunk which is now badly broken...
[00:01] < esden> but I have still a lot to do with this page
[00:02] < huebi> esden: nice!
[00:02]   esden will send an e-mail to cliff that he grabbed the page ;-)
[00:03] < esden> hmm ... copyright sollte ich auch klauen ... *FG*
[00:03] < esden> haha ... dass ist festverdrahtet
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[00:08] < th> huebi: noe war nix
[00:10] < esden> huebi: what have you done ??
[00:10] < esden> why is you rtunk broken ??
[00:10] < esden> ahh ...
[00:10] < esden> hmm ... scrollback ;-)
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[01:16] < huebi> n8
[01:17] < tsa> cu huebi
[01:18] < esden> cu huebi
[01:18] < fake> n8 huebi !
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[01:33] < the][owl> re
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[02:04] < owl> g8. bye.
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[07:42] < huebi> moin
[09:39] < esden> moin @ all
[09:39] < esden> huebi ?
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[09:47] < esden> hi tsa
[09:47] < tsa> moin.,
[09:48] < tsa> hi esden
[09:48]   tsa updating openssh packages..
[09:48]   esden asking himself why nobody answered the mail from preanti
[09:49]   esden wrote an answer now ... I hope to see more from this design he proposes
[09:58] < th> moin
[09:58] < esden> moin th
[09:59] < huebi> re
[10:00] < esden> re huebi
[10:00] < esden> bit updated: https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/alpha/
[10:00] < huebi> *click*
[10:03] < th> irgendwie bin ich muede
[10:03] < th> 03:46:36 [OPN] -!- You have been marked as being away
[10:03] < th> das is wohl der grund
[10:03] < huebi> th ;-)
[10:03] < th> naja - wozu gibt es schliesslich club-mate...
[10:03] < esden> th: hmm ... ja dass kann schon sein
[10:04] < esden> th: wo kriegst denn mate her L
[10:04] < esden> ?
[10:04] < th> ausserdem bin ich, wenn ich ein wenig muede bin, am telefon freundlicher. ich sollte ein paar kundengespraeche fuehren die noch ausstehen
[10:04] < th> esden: im endeffekt aus berlin
[10:04] < esden> ach mennoo ...
[10:05] < th> esden: wo wohnst du denn?
[10:05] < esden> in ingolstadt
[10:05] < th> wo ist das?
[10:05] < esden> dass ist eine stunde noerdlich von muenchen
[10:05] < huebi> * If you need a working backup software write it yourself.
[10:05] < th> na dann ab nach muench-steinach
[10:05] < th> huebi: ack ack ack
[10:05] < th> esden: du sitzt ja foermlich an der quelle
[10:05] < esden> huh ....
[10:06] < esden> cool
[10:06] < esden> gibt es da ne webseite ?
[10:06] < esden> oder so ?
[10:06] < th> mal schaun.
[10:06] < th> glaub schon
[10:06] < esden> wo ich ne adresse/anfahrt finde ?
[10:06] < th> https://www.club-mate.de/
[10:06] < esden> *click*
[10:06] < th> die kiste a 20 flaschen a .5liter fuer ~13EURO
[10:07] < th> in berlin kostet die 17EURO
[10:08] < th> Brauerei Loscher
[10:08] < th> Steigerwaldstr. 21-23
[10:08] < th> D - 91481 Mu"nchsteinach
[10:08] < th> Tel. +49 9166-607
[10:10] < th> esden: kennst du leute, die irgendwie regelmaessig von dir richtung norden fahren?
[10:10] < th> esden: ich wuerde sehr gern ein paar kisten von da unten haben aber die fahrt ist zu weit
[10:12] < esden> ich glaube nicht dass muenchsteinach in der naehe ist ...
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[10:12] < esden> die ganzen namen kommen mir so unbekannt vor ...
[10:12] < esden> hi Freak
[10:12]   esden braucht ne karte
[10:13] < Freak> huhu
[10:14] < th> esden: www.mapblast.de
[10:16] < th> 50km nord-westlich von nuernberg
[10:17] < esden> ahh ....
[10:17] < esden> ok
[10:17] < esden> dann ist es sozusagen erreichbar
[10:17] < th> du hast es gut :-/
[10:17] < esden> ich muss mal mich da hinbegeben
[10:17] < th> und wie bringst du es SMP und mir?
[10:18] < esden> ich weiss nicht ...
[10:18] < esden> also ..
[10:18] < huebi> ueber die relaistation huebi *g*
[10:18] < huebi> ?
[10:18] < huebi> via fake
[10:18] < esden> ich koennte vielleicht eich mal besuchen und dann paar kaesten vorbeibringen
[10:18] < esden> oder so
[10:18] < esden> @ huebi
[10:18] < esden> der faehrt ja regelmaessig
[10:19] < th> ich komm nicht mehr hinterher
[10:19] < esden> aber ich habe eh lust gehabt ende juli mal nen ausflug zu machen und paar leute zu besuchen
[10:19] < th> wer faehrt wohin regelmaessig?
[10:19] < esden> der fake faehrt regelmaessig nach bonn
[10:19] < esden> der kammt an huebi vorbei
[10:20] < esden> da kann er mate abladen
[10:20] < esden> und von huebi dann weiter
[10:21] < th> huebi: wohin faehrst du denn regelmaessig?
[10:22] < th> bzw. fragen wir anders: wohin kannst du denn regelmaessige transporte ermoeglichen?
[10:22] < huebi> Ich habe eine Mutter in BS. da fahre ich, wenn ueberhaupt, aber hoechstens einmal im Jahr hin
[10:22] < th> einmal im jahr is zu selten. BS waere ntuerlich ideal :)
[10:22] < esden> sehr regelmaessig huebi ;-)
[10:23] < th> huebi: ziehst du aufgrund der neuen hauptstadt denn nicht auch irgendwann nach berlin?
[10:24] < esden> aber diese brauerei macht auch frei haus lieferungen ...
[10:24] < esden> ;-)
[10:24] < th> esden: bis hin zu dir?
[10:24] < esden> th: vielleicht auch zu dir ?? ;-)
[10:24] < th> esden: nein das tut sie nicht
[10:24] < huebi> th: Im Rhein Main Gebiet gibt es mehr zu verdienen ;-)
[10:25] < th> huebi: ich weiss ;-/
[10:25] < esden> nee zu mir nicht ...
[10:25] < th> esden: dann wohl zu mir erst recht nicht
[10:25] < esden> vielleicht kann man es irgendwie mit denen absprechen ...
[10:25] < th> naja bonn waere schonmal besser als ingolstadt/muenchsteinach
[10:26] < esden> th: dann musst du es mit fake absprechen ob der dass machen wuerde
[10:26] < th> los huebig! hab doch mal ne idee wie das bis WR kommt
[10:27] < esden> machen wir ein mate lieferdienst geschaeft auf
[10:27] < esden> wir verteilen auch dann jolt
[10:27] < esden> und water joe
[10:28] < praenti> moin
[10:28] < esden> moin praenti
[10:28] < esden> praenti: hast ne mail von mir ... an rock-doc-pr bekommen
[10:28] < praenti> esden: merci
[10:31] < praenti> esden: das zeugs macht der brandl. ann also ein bißchen dauern bis wieder was zu sehen ist
[10:32] < praenti> s/ann/kann
[10:32] < esden> der brandl ?? .... hehe
[10:33] < praenti> jo. hab ihn mal so nebenbei gefragt ob er unsere hp redesignen mag. so a bissal richtung gentoo
[10:34] < esden> cool ...
[10:34] < esden> ja dann soll er weiter machen ...
[10:34] < esden> siehst du den oefters ?
[10:34] < esden> ich habe den vor kurzem im bitz getroffen
[10:34] < esden> praenti: hast du dir meine monster mail ueber gentoo angetan ?
[10:35] < praenti> esden: jepp. werde demnächst auch mal testen
[10:35] < esden> ja mache dass
[10:35] < esden> ich habe eine kiste im bitz dazu vergewaltigt
[10:36] < praenti> esden: die is glaub ich vom erdi gestern platt gemacht worden. weiß ich aber nicht genau. ich weiß nur dass ich das net.eth0 mal schnel in net.eth0.old umbenannt hab, weil die net starten wollte
[10:37] < esden> ja stimmt ... da war was faul
[10:38] < esden> aber teste gentoo auch dass lohnt sich ... wir haben mit benji uns echt totgelacht die ganze zeit ;-)
[10:38] < praenti> da is jetzt aber ne andere 3com drin. muss mal die nächsten tage testen obs dann geht
[10:39] < esden> habt's ihr umgebaut ?
[10:39] < esden> die cd sollte auch noch im bitz flacken
[10:39] < praenti> der erdi hat mal schenll durchgetauscht
[10:39] < esden> ich habe die vergessen mitzunehmen
[10:39] < praenti> ohh. cool
[10:39] < esden> und leider ist die auch nicht beschriftet
[10:39] < esden> sie sollte irgendwo neben dem radio liegen
[10:40] < esden> praenti: wann bist im bitz ?
[10:40] < esden> heute vielleicht
[10:40] < praenti> esden: eher weniger. ich spring evtl nur kurz nach der fh rein
[10:40] < esden> ok dann schaue nach der cd
[10:40] < esden> dass die nicht verschwindet
[10:41] < praenti> so ca. 18:00 uhr
[10:41] < esden> scheisse toll
[10:41] < esden> vim will nicht compiliren
[10:41] < praenti> was?
[10:41] < esden> auf der alpha
[10:42] < esden> hmm ... vielleicht bin ich auch dann da ...
[10:42] < esden> mal sehen
[10:43] < praenti> wie heißts so schön: schau ma mal
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[10:43] < bluefire> Moin allesamt
[10:44] < esden> praenti: genau
[10:44] < esden> hi bluefire
[10:45] < praenti> moin bluefire
[10:46] < huebi> moin bluefire
[10:47] < praenti> moin huebi
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[10:47] < huebi> hi praenti
[10:49]   esden co rock-1.5
[10:50] < esden> how can aszlig loose his terminal ???
[10:51] < th> esden: ich hoffe dein CVSROOT stimmt?
[10:51] < esden> huebi: welches ist dass script um die rechte in dem tree zu korrigieren ?
[10:51] < esden> th: ???
[10:51] < th> esden: checke mal noch tools aus
[10:51] < huebi> esden: kein script. das ist alles im Repository geaendert.
[10:51] < esden> cvs -z3 -d:ext:esden@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs/ co rock-1.5
[10:52] < esden> @ th
[10:52] < th> esden: jo genau ;)
[10:52] < th> huebi: tools/repair.sh geistert aber auch noch rum
[10:52] < esden> uiii huebi coool
[10:52] < esden> huebi: ich mache dann mal dass repair raus oder ?
[10:53] < esden> wenn ich schon dabei bin
[10:53] < esden> oder willst es drinnen lassen ?
[10:53] < huebi> th: Jo, aber ich wollte genau davon los kommen und habe deshalb im repository die Dateiberechtigungen korrigiert.
[10:54] < praenti> cool @huebi
[10:54] < huebi> esden: loesche es einfach. Das stiftet sonst nur Verwirrung
[10:54] < esden> ja ich mache dann es raus und mache nen ci
[10:55] < th> esden: ein ci?????
[10:55] < huebi> Die ROCK scripte sind fast alle umgebaut, so dass die CVS Verzeichnisse nicht mehr stoeren. Ein bischen ist noch da, aber davon dann mehr naechste Woche. Ich muss hier ein Backup zum laufen kriegen und das muss bis heute abend wieder laufen.
[10:56]   th muiss ersma weg
[10:57] < huebi> th: rm tools/repair.sh; cvs rm tools/repair.sh; cvs ci -m "not nessesary anymore. ROCK Linux is now CVS save" tools/repair.sh
[11:00] < esden> Removing repair.sh;
[11:00] < esden> /home/rockcvs/cvs/tools/repair.sh,v  <--  repair.sh
[11:00] < esden> new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.2
[11:00] < esden> done
[11:00] < huebi> esden: Dankoe!
[11:00] < esden> huebi: bidde ;-)
[11:00]   esden hat eine destruktive phase ;-)
[11:02]   esden sucking the sources
[11:02] < huebi> * esden is cracking the homepage of gentoo
[11:02] < esden> huebi: MUAHAHAHA
[11:03]   esden wanst more comments on his gentoo test !!!
[11:03]   esden wants to see blood on the rlml
[11:10] < esden> argh .. I have killed my x >_<
[11:11] < esden> and I had no screen open on natalie
[11:17] < blindcoder> hi hi und rehi
[11:17] < praenti> hi blindcoder
[11:18] < huebi> hi blindcoder
[11:18] < tsa> Grr....
[11:19] < esden> hi blindcoder
[11:19] < tsa> openssh-3.3 doesn't work on linux 2.2.x
[11:19] < esden> tsa: ???
[11:19] < huebi> moin tsa
[11:19] < esden> tsa: why ?
[11:19] < tsa> hi huebi
[11:19] < huebi> th: Why
[11:19] < tsa> esden: problems with the mmap implemtation
[11:19] < tsa> Jun 25 10:02:41 orwell sshd[29675]: fatal: mmap(65536): Invalid argument
[11:19] < esden> >_<
[11:20] < tsa> it's a known problem, see https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285
[11:20] < esden> tsa: upgrade to 2.4.19-gentoo-rev2 ;-)
[11:20] < praenti> th: kannst du mal wieder im /tmp ein paar dirs von dir rauslöschen. ich bekomm schon wieder noc space left on device
[11:21] < praenti> s/noc/no
[11:22] < huebi> praenti: habe fertig ;-)
[11:22] < praenti> huebi: was?
[11:22] < esden> my alpha needs more ram and a faster processor >_<
[11:22] < tsa> esden: hm?
[11:22] < huebi> praenti: rm -rf /tmp/cvs*
[11:22] < esden> i will get mad !!!
[11:23] < huebi> esden: You are mad *ggg*
[11:23] < praenti> huebi: ok.thx
[11:23] < esden> tsa: i am downloading the sources ... my baby needs to much time to generate the chksum'-
[11:23] < esden> s
[11:23] < tsa> hehe
[11:23] < esden> huebi: yes I know
[11:24] < esden> tsa: I have not even started to compile ... and this box seems to be a turtle
[11:24] < esden> I want the ds20 from holyolli
[11:25] < huebi> esden: Start more downloads
[11:25] < huebi> esden: Or use a faster machine for the downloads.
[11:25] < esden> hmm ... ok
[11:25] < esden> yes I know ...
[11:25] < huebi> esden: and copy it over to the alpha.
[11:25] < esden> yepp
[11:26] < huebi> 4 download on the dual AMD XP take about 17 min IIRC
[11:26] < huebi> +s
[11:30] < esden> what connection ?
[11:30] < huebi> 100MBit Full Duplex from a local ftp on rocklinux.dyndns.org ;-)
[11:31] < huebi> then I only have to download things once over dsl
[11:32] < esden> ok ... then I can imagine that it is 17 mins
[11:34] < huebi> I don't like waiting for the stuff. I copy all the new packages over to ella and then I have it all everytime with speed handy.
[11:37] < blindcoder> okay... another try at compiling ROCK with the Build-CD ...
[11:37] < huebi> blindcoder: nice to hear that.
[11:39] < blindcoder> hmm ncurses still doesn't work... "Error opening terminal: linux"
[11:40] < esden> blindcoder: what is this problem ... I have never seen it before ...
[11:41] < blindcoder> terminfo doesn't recognize the terminal-type in use...
[11:41] < blindcoder> or better: it has no idea how it has to be handled
[11:42] < esden> hmm  no good
[11:42] < huebi> blindcoder: ltrace, strace?
[11:43] < blindcoder> hmm i will try that... just have to restart because of stupidity
[11:44] < esden> blindcoder: was heisst dass japanische  "so"  oder wie man dass schreiben soll in deutsch ?
[11:45] < blindcoder> hmm in welchem zusammenhang?
[11:46] < blindcoder> wird meistens verwendet wie: "Aha" "Achso"
[11:46] < blindcoder> kann aber auch Opferschrein heissen
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[11:56] < esden> blindcoder: danke
[11:56] < esden> very insightfull: https://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/24/1556244&mode=nocomment&tid=163
[12:24] < blindcoder> huebi: I think I found it: /usr/share/terminfo is an empty directory instead of a symlink to /usr/lib/terminfo
[12:25] < huebi> blindcoder: Can you find out why it's in this way?
[12:26] < blindcoder> probably because I did a cp -r /cdrom/* /trg
[12:26] < blindcoder> seems like I missed some parameters
[12:27] < blindcoder> yes, I should use -R instead of -r
[12:28] < blindcoder> -R treats special files like devices and links...
[12:30] < esden> re hi all
[12:30] < esden> I hate the net here
[12:30] < blindcoder> esden: router died again?
[12:30] < esden> blindcoder: I said that you should use cp -a not cp -r
[12:31] < blindcoder> esden: hai, hai... I've seen my mistake...
[12:31] < esden> good
[12:31] < esden> ;-)
[12:33] < esden> *jump* *jump* *jump* I WANT THIS BURNER !!! https://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/computer/extra/products/crwf1/crwf1.html
[12:33] < esden> here better photo's : https://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20020622/etc_disctat2.html
[12:35] < blindcoder> a, now i know why you wanted to know "so" :D
[12:36]   esden is asking himself if it would be possible to create an iso that when burned create's a simmilar effect ...
[12:36] < esden> blindcoder: noo .. I have heard some japanese on the street here
[12:37] < esden> and one of them was crying around so so so ...
[12:37] < blindcoder> maybe he was pissed >_<
[12:38] < blindcoder> just like me right now... ERDI!!!! *CRY* GIMME THE !§"$% BIOS-PASSWORD!!!
[12:39] < blindcoder> good boy ;)
[12:39] < esden> rofl
[12:40] < tsa> argh
[12:40] < tsa> postfix sucks.
[12:43] < esden> blindcoder: ich habe endlich wieder spam assasin bei mir laufen
[12:43] < blindcoder> na toll... dann geht der apollo wieder in die knie :D
[12:44] < blindcoder> mkfs.ext2 -ccj /dev/discs/disc0/part2
[12:44] < blindcoder> das wird dauern >_<
[12:44] < esden> naja ... sonnst langweilt er sich noch ...
[12:44] < esden> ccj ???
[12:44] < esden> j weiss ich
[12:44] < blindcoder> c=bad sector check cc=read/write bad sector check
[12:44] < esden> ext3
[12:44] < blindcoder> j=journal
[12:44] < esden> ahh
[12:44] < esden> kk
[12:44] < tsa> ah
[12:45] < tsa> wieder was gelernt..
[12:45] < esden> is the disk corrupted ?
[12:45] < esden> tsa: in this channel you learn all the time ;-)
[12:45] < blindcoder> Let me put it this way: I'm thinking about opening it "und es zu den anderen an die wand zu nageln"
[12:46] < esden> blindcoder: >_<
[12:46] < blindcoder> tons of kernel error messages
[12:46] < blindcoder> and loud knocking noises from the disk
[12:46] < esden> ohh goood ...
[12:47] < esden> be aware of flying harddisk parts ;-)
[12:47]   blindcoder hides behind the coffee machine
[12:47] < blindcoder> hmm no this is no good hiding
[12:47] < esden> NOT THE COFFEE MACHINE
[12:47] < esden> hide the coffee machine behind you
[12:47]   blindcoder builds a barrier of empty Jolt Colas and hides behind it with the coffee machine
[12:47] < tsa> esden: i know...
[12:47] < esden> it is more importaint ;-)
[12:48] < esden> blindcoder: better so ;-)
[12:52] < fake> mornin
[12:52] < blindcoder> moin fake
[12:53] < esden> hi fake!!!
[12:53] < esden> ... *another_jump_around* hardware divx decoder for 99$ !!!!
[12:53] < esden> coool ... wanna have !
[12:54] < esden> but please as a pcmcia card ;-)
[12:54] < blindcoder> esden: amount of money to pay blindcoder: 250 EUR
[12:58] < esden> *cry* *heul* *winsel*
[12:58] < esden> *jammer*
[13:00] < esden> "JHM wonders what Joey did to earn "I'd just like to say, for the record, that Joey rules." -- Seen on #Debian
[13:00] < esden> *rofl*
[13:00] < esden> yes that is right ...
[13:00] < esden> joey rulez
[13:01] < blindcoder> who is joey?
[13:02] < tsa> martin schulze
[13:02] < tsa> debian guy, orga staff linuxtag
[13:03] < blindcoder> ic
[13:03]   blindcoder thinks about kicking "someone" around for taking too much time... ME HUNGRY! ME WANT KENTUCKY!
[13:06] < esden> erdi ???
[13:08] < blindcoder> yes
[13:08] < huebi> blindcoder: KENTUCKY chried ficken?
[13:09] < huebi> or so
[13:09] < blindcoder> huebi: sure ;) *schrei*
[13:10] < blindcoder> fake: did you already get that URL with the HP FileServer?
[13:10] < huebi> hehe
[13:14] < blindcoder> ah there he is *hehe*
[13:20] < fake> so. wieder mal 20.000
[13:21] < fake> Mails geloescht
[13:21] < huebi> fake: weia ;-)
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[13:22] < huebi> hi aszlig
[13:22] < fake> Mail/IN.dev.null und Mail/IN.admin ;)
[13:22] < fake> blindcoder: unfortunately not. i will call him again later today.
[13:23]   fake smoking
[13:23] < aszlig> hullo
[13:26] < th> 13:24:52 < huebi> th: rm tools/repair.sh; cvs rm tools/repair.sh; cvs ci -m "not nessesary anymore. ROCK Linux
[13:26] < th>                   is now CVS save" tools/repair.sh
[13:26] < th> huebi: do you mean s,ci,com,???
[13:27] < huebi> ci = commit
[13:27] < th> oups?
[13:27] < huebi> co = checkout
[13:28] < th> ich kannte nur com als abkuerzung fuer commit. ci klingt so nach checkin
[13:28] < th> dann nehme ich natuerlich alles zurueck und behaupte das gegenteil
[13:28] < esden> scheiss regen ... ich kann mich jetzt hier nicht wegbewegen biss es aufhoert ...
[13:28] < esden> grrr
[13:29] < th> hier scheint die sonne
[13:29] < esden> th: schoen fuer dich >_<
[13:29] < huebi> hier auch
[13:29] < th> ein transport koeln > magdeburg > wernigerode von mathe waere kein problem
[13:29] < esden> toll jungs ... glueckspilze
[13:30] < th> s,mathe,mate,
[13:32] < fake> hier is auch schoen sonnig
[13:32] < fake> "schoen"
[13:37] < esden> mensch ... ich habe dann nur so ein scheiss wetter dass ich ueber mich ergehen lassen muss
[13:37] < fake> lieber regen als zu heiss.
[13:37] < esden> naja ... wenn ich einen regenschirm/mantel haette wuerde ich dass wetter auch schoen finden ...
[13:37] < huebi> echo 1 > esden:/dev/sonne
[13:38] < huebi> esden: besser jetzt?
[13:38] < esden> *plink* .... ohh sonne ist angegangen
[13:38] < esden> huebi sprach es werde licht ... ;-)
[13:38] < esden> danke huebi ... aber es regnet immer noch ...
[13:39] < huebi> hmm. Da haben die elektriker wieder gepfuscht. Kein Strom da...
[13:40] < esden> nicht gut ... :-(
[13:41] < esden> meine mutter muss schon echt ne kriese kriegen ... denn die platte von der natalie muss auf hochturen laufen ... ;-)
[13:42] < fake> touren
[13:42] < huebi> steht 'natalie' in der Kueche?
[13:42] < fake> huebi: steht seine Mutter in der Kueche?
[13:42] < huebi> fake: Nee, die sitzt jetz garantiert im Garten.
[13:42] < huebi> +t
[13:43] < fake> huebi: esden hat keinen garten. aber nen swimmingpool und ne saune
[13:43] < huebi> natalie ist wasserdicht und hitzebestaendig!
[13:43] < esden> die tuer von meinem zimmer sind offen ...
[13:43] < fake> ist offen ;)
[13:44] < huebi> zimmern ;-)
[13:44] < th> tueren
[13:44] < esden> und meine mutter sitzt bestimmt im wohnzimmer .. und dass ist einen meter von der tuer von meinem zimmer entfernt
[13:44] < esden> loool
[13:45] < esden> also ... ihr seid eindeutig zweideutig ;-)
[13:45] < fake> wo?
[13:45] < huebi> bei mir sind noch Schlafzimmer und Kinderzimmer bis zum Wohnzimmer dazwischen. Das Klappern von der Tastatur stoert aber am meisten.
[13:46] < huebi> zweideutig != doppeldeutig ...um hier mal ein paar Haare zu spalten *g*
[13:48] < esden> huebi: solltest sagen hare in doppel zu spalten oder so ...
[13:48] < fake> wie kann ich beim gcc3-configure java abschalten?
[13:48] < esden> dann waehre der satz perfekt ;-)
[13:48] < th> eher in haelften
[13:48] < fake> --without-gcj ?
[13:48] < esden> th: ja dass ist gut
[13:49] < esden> also : zweideutig != doppeldeutig ...um hier mal ein paar Haare in zwei haelften zu spalten
[13:49] < th> fake: du faehrst hin und wieder von esden richtung bonn?
[13:49] < esden> ist dass besser so ?
[13:49] < fake> th> ja... ?
[13:50] < th> fake: das waere ein sehr wertvoller teil einer mate-versorgungsstrecke
[13:50] < huebi> "Es gibt keine groessere oder kleinere Haelfte. Aber die groessere Haelfte von euch glaubt mir ja sowieso nicht." - Irgendein Mathelehrer.
[13:50] < th> hehe
[13:50] < esden> lol
[13:51] < fake> --disable-libgcj
[13:51] < fake> Specify that the run-time libraries used by GCJ should not be built.
[13:51] < th> fake: faehrst du direkt nach bonn oder irgendwo nur in die richtung?
[13:51] < esden> i have removed gcj after I run ../configure from the Makefile
[13:52] < fake> th> quasi-direkt. ich wohne in hennef, arbeite in Sankt Augustin
[13:52] < fake> esden: i want to do it "clean" ;P
[13:53] < fake> th> fahre bei Kreuz Bonn/Siegburg von der A3 runter.
[13:53] < esden> fake: ok ...
[13:53] < th> fake: koenntest du evtl. mate-kisten fuer abnehmer im bereich sachsen-anhalt (smp und ich) transportieren?
[13:55] < th> fake: ich haette eine kontaktperson aus koeln, die sich dann mit dir in bonn oder wo auch immer trifft
[13:55] < fake> von wo nach wo?
[13:55] < th> fake: von esden (ingolstadt) nach bonn
[13:55] < fake> esden hat mate?
[13:55] < esden> ja werde ich haben
[13:55] < th> fake: ich hab ihm heute gesagt wo er mate herkriegt ;)
[13:55] < fake> woher?
[13:55] < fake> WO WO WO?
[13:55] < th> fake: direkt von der brauerei
[13:56] < esden> die kriegt man in einer brauerei nahe nuernberg
[13:56] < th> fake: muenchsteinach
[13:56] < fake> die is doch in berlin?
[13:56] < th> fake: NEIN
[13:56] < th> fake: berlin ist nur eine vertriebsstelle
[13:56] < fake> uiiii!
[13:56] < fake> *freu*
[13:56] < fake> Bayern RULEZ!
[13:56] < th> fake: berlin will 17EURO meunchsteinach nur ~13EURO
[13:56] < esden> fake: ja *auchfreu*
[13:56] < esden> fake: sicher !!!
[13:57] < esden> vielleicht wenn wir mehr abnehmen kriegen wir rabatt
[13:57] < th> fake: und ich wuerde gerne eine versorgungsstrecke fuer geringe mengen mate von der brauerei nach sachsen-anhalt aufbauen
[13:57] < fake> aber ich hab nur nen normalen PKW... o_O
[13:57] < th> fake: wieviel kisten passen da rein?
[13:57] < esden> ich werde mal den benji verdonnern mit seinem grossen und mir da einkaufen zu fahren
[13:57] < fake> th> da liesse sich drueber reden.
[13:57] < th> fake: sehr schoen
[13:57] < fake> WegZoll: ein Kasten.
[13:58] < fake> *gg*
[13:58] < esden> rofl
[13:58] < th> fake: kommt drauf an wieviel kisten du laden kannst ;) *eg*
[13:58] < fake> Nein. die verteilung von mate ist ehrensache.
[13:58] < esden> ICH HABE ES GEWUSST dass er es sagt
[13:58] < th> fake: sehr schoen
[13:58] < fake> esden: was genau?
[13:59] < esden> dass mit dem einen kasten zoll
[13:59] < fake> das war ein scherz.
[13:59] < esden> ich wusste dass du es sagst bevor du auch wusstest dass du mate transportieren willst ;-)
[13:59] < esden> ja schon klar
[13:59] < th> prima
[13:59] < esden> aber ich wusste einfach dass du es sagen wirst
[13:59] < fake> esden - mein held!
[14:00] < esden> fake: du bist durchschaubar ...
[14:00] < th> esden: welche menge wirst du vorraussichtlich aus der brauerei holen?
[14:00] < esden> ich habe es geschafft *jump*
[14:00] < th> esden: hast du lagerraum?
[14:00] < esden> th: so viel wie in einen alhambra reinpasst
[14:00] < th> alhambra?
[14:00] < esden> oder wie der minibuss auch wieder heisst
[14:00] < th> unable to resolve "alhambra"
[14:00] < fake> th> co-branded mitsubishi spacewaggon
[14:01] < th> ahja
[14:01] < fake> VW Sharan
[14:01] < th> eine EU-palette sind 40 kisten
[14:01] < fake> *ROFL*
[14:01] < esden> ROFL
[14:01] < fake> das nennst du KLEINE MENGEN?
[14:01] < th> hehe
[14:01] < esden> fake: dass ist fuer die nicht viel ... ;-)
[14:01] < esden> glaube ich zumindest
[14:01] < fake> aber fuer mein gefaehrt
[14:02] < th> also hier (WR und md) werde ich 20 kisten recht schnell los
[14:02] < th> 10 kisten sind allerdings das maximum fuer eine fahrt bonn<>MD
[14:02] < fake> th> wo genau wohnst du?
[14:02] < th> fake: magdeburg
[14:02] < fake> das problem ist, dass ich mit jeder kiste mher benzin verbrauche...
[14:02] < th> fake: kannst du das ueberschlagen?
[14:03] < fake> hm... benin zahlt eigentlich mein AG. also is es nicht soo wild.
[14:03] < fake> benzin
[14:03] < th> lol
[14:03] < th> cool
[14:03] < fake> ich werd einfach mal gucken, ob ich's ueberhaupt merk.
[14:04] < th> 1 kiste sind 10liter. 10 kisten sind also schon 100kg
[14:05] < tsa> + tara
[14:05] < esden> dass ist alsob eine person mehr fahren wuerde
[14:05] < th> jo
[14:05] < esden> ich meine eine grosse person ...
[14:06] < fake> esden: ein blindcoder.
[14:06] < fake> ;))
[14:06] < esden> fake: jups ;-)
[14:06] < esden> ein blindcoder bitte .. ;-)
[14:06] < fake> naja, dann hab ich wenigstens ne bessere strassenlage M)
[14:06] < esden> wir machen eine blindcoder vertriebsstrecke auf ;-)
[14:06] < blindcoder> esden: du sprichst von mir?
[14:07] < esden> blindcoder: ja
[14:07] < blindcoder> okay, the build-CD has reached Stage 2 successfully
[14:07] < esden> wir vertreiben dich jetzt in sachsen anhalt
[14:07] < blindcoder> und was will ich da oben?
[14:07] < esden> als mate spoender dienen
[14:07] < th> esden: wann steht die erste ladung in ingolstadt bereit?
[14:07] < esden> ich weiss es noch nicht
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[14:08] < esden> blindcoder snucki willst du vielleicht bissel mate kaufen ?
[14:08] < snyke> HUHU!!!
[14:08] < blindcoder> nee net wirklich
[14:08] < esden> die brauerei die es macht ist in der naehe von nuernberg
[14:08] < blindcoder> ich muss jetzt irgendwie ROCK auf ner 350 MB Platte installieren
[14:08] < esden> und ich muesste da hin ... mit nem grossen auto ...
[14:09] < esden> ja ... ich habe nicht gesagt jetzt benji ...
[14:09] < fake> also ich bin am WE in Ingolstadt
[14:09] < esden> fake: super
[14:09] < esden> dann muss ich diese woche noch irgendwie in die brauerei
[14:09] < fake> hai.
[14:10] < esden> und 11 oder 12 kisten kaufen
[14:10] < th> meine kontaktperson (K<>MD) faehrt als naechstes am freitag ;)
[14:10] < esden> aber mit dem polo schaffe ich es nicht ...
[14:10] < th> das ist wohl ein wenig frueh
[14:10] < blindcoder> fake: wie isses mit der URL?
[14:10] < esden> glaube ich zumindest
[14:10] < esden> es seidenn blindcoder hillft mir ...
[14:10] < blindcoder> esden: dir is nich mehr zu helfen
[14:11] < esden> blindcoder: danke ... :-(
[14:11] < snyke> :(
[14:11] < esden> hi snyke
[14:12] < fake> th: dann wuerde ich das gute zeug eben von Sonntag bis Freitag einlagern
[14:12] < fake> th: schreib mal eine logistik-webapplication oder so.
[14:12] < th> fake: es ist noch nicht gesagt, dass meine kontaktperson woechentlich faehrt. ich muss das noch genauer pruefen
[14:13] < fake> th: kewl.
[14:13] < snyke> *jump*
[14:13] < snyke> hi esdi
[14:13] < fake> *kick*
[14:13] < fake> hi snyke!
[14:13] < th> fake: wieviel kisten willst du denn fuer dich von esden zu dir transportieren?
[14:13] < th> ich denke ich will 10kisten
[14:14] < fake> th> ich denke ich werde erstmal sehen wie viele ich hineinbekomme. eine kiste der so wuerde ich gerne selbst kaufen, usw.
[14:15] < huebi> 594 pts/0    DWN    2:26 [dmbr] <- Bloeder Mist! reboot ist angesagt
[14:15] < th> auf jeden fall kann esden 12 kisten kaufen und fake guckt dann was er ins auto kriegt ;)
[14:15] < fake> th: genau.
[14:16] < huebi> fake: kannst du mir vielleicht auch ein vorbeibringen?
[14:16] < huebi> +e
[14:16] < snyke> hi fake!
[14:17] < esden> ojemene ...
[14:17] < esden> wir brauchen nen laster .. kaufen 3 - 4 paletten ... und dann fahren wir damit aller rocker ab ...
[14:17] < esden> nee einen vollen laster
[14:18] < th> das rechnet sich doch nicht vom sprit her ;)
[14:18] < esden> 3-4 paletten ist langweilig
[14:18] < blindcoder> fake: *nochmalnervwegenfileserverURL*
[14:18] < esden> blindcoder: nervel
[14:18] < blindcoder> esden: und stolz darauf
[14:19] < esden> :P
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[14:19] < esden> hi th
[14:19] < esden> argh
[14:19] < esden> hi term_emu
[14:20] < term_emu> hoi
[14:20] < huebi> wie steht das wm spiel?
[14:21] < huebi> hier haben die Leute eine Fernseher aufgestellt und sind alle am glotzenn *g*
[14:23] < blindcoder> shit... still 30 MB too large
[14:23] < term_emu> huebi: 0:0
[14:23] < esden> huebi .. ich glaube man sollte puzzle ausfuehren und dass im cvs updaten ...
[14:24] < esden> ich habe vergessen vor dem download puzzle auszufuehren ... und dass war schreklich veraltet
[14:24] < th> wm spiel? wer spielt denn?
[14:28] < term_emu> deutschland gegen suedkorea
[14:28] < th> aha
[14:28] < th> d.h. halb deutschland sitzt vorm fernseher?
[14:29] < tsa> th: aehm..ich fuerchte, es sind mehr..
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[14:29] < Ge0rG> hi
[14:29] < th> tach Ge0rG
[14:30] < th> Ge0rG: esden ist der provider ab ingolstadt, fake ist ingolstadt<>bonn transporter
[14:31] < th> fake: esden: Ge0rG ist abnehmer in md und kontaktmann zum transporter koeln<>md
[14:31]   Ge0rG hat babyface verständigt, zur weiteren kommunikation hierher zu kommen. da er im moment knapp bei kasse ist, weiss er noch nicht ob er wirklich kann.
[14:31] < th> (und Ge0rG ist begeisterter rocker ;-> )
[14:31] < Ge0rG> th: :-P
[14:32]   Ge0rG war bestimmt fünf mal am rocklinux-stand aufm LT ;)
[14:32] < th> Ge0rG: wirklich was kann?
[14:32] < Ge0rG> th: den transport durchführen
[14:32] < th> Ge0rG: welchen?
[14:32] < th> Ge0rG: den am freitag? der is sowieso zu frueh
[14:32] < Ge0rG> von bonn nach MD
[14:32] < Ge0rG> ok, also diese woche noch keine frische mate...
[14:32] < th> es kommen ja auch wieder bessere zeiten
[14:32] < th> Ge0rG: leider nein.
[14:33] < th> und ich hab nur noch 3 flaschen :-((
[14:33] < Ge0rG> th: also wenns hart auf hart kommt, kannst du ein paar flaschen kriegen
[14:33]   th hat schon angefangen "Apollinaris - Classic" zu trinken
[14:33] < Ge0rG> aber nichts ist so gut wie das beruhigende gefühl, noch einen vollen kasten im keller zu haben
[14:33] < th> hehe
[14:36] < fake> hm... entweder kuerzt du stark ab oder mein client kann deine sprache nicht Ge0rG
[14:37] < fake> und hi ;)
[14:37] < Ge0rG> hi fake
[14:37] < fake> Software Achten Sie auf unseren Office XP Sparvorteil!
[14:37] < fake> wow.
[14:37] < fake> ich achte nicht, ich aechte.
[14:38] < Ge0rG> fake: ich kläre gern aufgekommene missverständnisse
[14:38] < fake> ich kl. mehr sehe ich da nicht
[14:39] < th> fake: das muss an dir liegen
[14:39] < fake> benutzt diu diese haesslichen umlaute?
[14:39] < th> fake: ja
[14:39] < huebi> 14:23 < esden> huebi .. ich glaube man sollte puzzle ausfuehren und dass im cvs updaten ... <- NEIN, vorsicht ;-) ! Bzw dann nur die neuen indexfiles commiten, sonst sind die ganzen .ext, .desc und .pz files wieder in den extensions.
[14:39] < Ge0rG> fake: soll ich auf utf8 umsteigen?
[14:40] < th> huebi: nein nicht ganz. solange man kein cvs add macht kommen auch die .pz files nicht rein
[14:41] < huebi> th danke, habe ich vergessen. Die dateien in arch-conf werden aber zum Teil auch erneuert.
[14:41] < fake> Ge0rG: nein, auf ASCII-7bit ;))
[14:41] < th> huebi: man sollte kein puzzle machen und dann committen!
[14:41] < Ge0rG> fake: das ist ja oede ;)
[14:41] < th> huebi: find ich zumindest
[14:42] < fake> Ge0rG wenn ich buchstaben mit punkten will schreib ich sie hintereinander: U: = UE, A: = AE etc. is doch viel huebscher!
[14:43] < huebi> vielleicht ist es eine gute Idee, Puzzle von ./scripts/Config aufzurufen..
[14:43] < fake> &aauml;
[14:43] < th> huebi: nicht unbedingt, da ein puzzle nach jeder aktualisierung der .exts notwendig ist
[14:43] < th> huebi: bzw. anders: ja es ist eine gute idee aber nicht ausschliesslich
[14:44] < th> fake: aber du schreibst huebscher statt hu:bscher.
[14:44] < Ge0rG> fake: h\"ubscher w\"are auch m\"oglich. aber wer will das schon lesen? iso8859-15 ist doch vollkommen ok
[14:45] < th> \" gef\"allt mir noch am besten... muss wohl am tex liegen ;)
[14:45] < fake> ach was weiss ich ;) ich hab keinen bock nachzusuchen was los is ;P
[14:46] < Ge0rG> fake: installiere irssi *schleichwerbungmach*
[14:46] < huebi> Also ich wuerde es ganz schoen finden, wenn die INDEX Dateien aktuell sind, damit solche Pannen, wie sie ebend gerade esden passiert ist, nicht mehr so einfach vorkommen.
[14:46] < th> huebi: wo hat er denn die sourcen her? ausgecheckt?
[14:46] < fake> Ge0rG: koennte ich. sekunde.
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[14:46] < th> huebi: hat dann jemand das Build-Index vergessen?
[14:47] < huebi> ae, ue, oe und ss find ich, da Dudenkonform, sehr gut.
[14:47] < th> das ist dudenkonform?
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[14:48] < armijn> well...seems like the "Mannschaft" is doing quite well *cough*
[14:48] < th> rofl
[14:48] < th> hi armijn
[14:48] < armijn> hi th
[14:48] < esden> hi ar
[14:48] < esden> hi armijn
[14:48] < huebi> th: Ich glaube, ich weiss jetzt woran das liegt. Die Indexfiles generiere ich nur in /rock-linux und cvs mache ich nur in /rock-orig
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[14:48] < fake> re.
[14:48] < esden> re fake
[14:48] < armijn> in South-Korea travel agencies are offering trips to Guus Hiddinks town...
[14:49] < esden> huebi: lasse dir was einfallen ...
[14:49] < esden> ;-)
[14:49] < fake> hm...
[14:49] < armijn> I mean...there's absolutely *nothing* there
[14:49] < fake> wieso macht irssi meinen namen nicht fett? *grml*
[14:49] < huebi> jo esden
[14:49] < fake> üüü
[14:49] < fake> hehe. geht immernoch nicht.
[14:49] < fake> ÖÄÜ
[14:49] -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit)
[14:49] < th> huebi: oha. also checkst du alte index-files ein...
[14:50] < huebi> üüüüüüüüüüüü <- with amercanski keykoard ;-)
[14:50] < esden> huebi: how ?
[14:50] < Ge0rG> got a compose key?
[14:50] < esden> other layout ?
[14:50] < huebi> th: I think I don't ci them at all ;(
[14:50] < th> compose key? /me just abuses "AltGr" ;)
[14:50] < huebi> esden: copy'n'paste hehe
[14:50] < esden> huebi: this is the best way
[14:50] < th> huebi: i see...
[14:51] < Ge0rG> <compose> <"> <u> should do the trick, while compose being shift+alt or alt+shift
[14:51] < esden> cuz when they are not there then such a mistake can not happen
[14:52] < huebi> no composekey does work here ;(
[14:52] < esden> here nither
[14:52] < armijn> heh, still 0-0?
[14:52] < esden> football fans >_<
[14:52] < armijn> no, not a fan...I just want germany to lose >:->
[14:53] < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 113 = Mode_switch'
[14:53] < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'
[14:53] < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode  38 = a A adiaeresis Adiaeresis'
[14:53]   Ge0rG has bound windows-menu-key to compose.
[14:53] < th> so AltGr + A results in Ae (Ä)
[14:53] < Ge0rG> 117 is the windows menu key...
[14:53]   huebi has no spare keys on the SGI keyboard..
[14:53] < esden> æ
[14:54] < esden> that is altgr-a
[14:54] < Ge0rG> who needs æ? ;)
[14:54] < armijn> a what?
[14:54] < th> esden: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode  38 = a A adiaeresis Adiaeresis'
[14:54]   blindcoder is now going to abuse the buergernetz-pcs for a root-on-nfs-test
[14:55] < esden> ???
[14:55] < esden> blindcoder you ill ... bilindcoder ...
[14:55] < esden> or so
[14:55] < blindcoder> esden: I know that I'm sick, but I see no other way of getting a USABLE ROCKLinux onto my router...
[14:56] < armijn> so, maybe South-Korea will win...
[14:56]   blindcoder is going to boot his router over NFS *hehe*
[14:56] < esden> arrrgggh ... Jean Jordaan want's to forward my gentoo test to the gentoo mailinglist ...
[14:56] < blindcoder> let him do so
[14:56]   esden will be flamed to death
[14:57] < blindcoder> esden: procmail's your friend :D
[14:57] < esden> blindcoder: hehe ... sure
[14:57] < blindcoder> and the 'd' doesn't get worn out that quickly
[14:57] < blindcoder> 'd'-key
[14:57] < huebi> esden just wants to test his new spam filter *g*
[14:57]   esden has to subscribe to their mailinglist to watch the answers
[14:57] < armijn> esden will switch to gentoo?
[14:58] < esden> armijn: NEVER NO
[14:58] < esden> armijn: gentoo is ill crap
[14:58] < esden> I will not switch
[14:58] < blindcoder> armijn: yes, he likes the sick dependencies and the colorful boot-screen
[14:58] < esden> blindcoder: I love them
[14:59] < armijn> hmm, a colorful bootscreen?
[14:59] < esden> gentoo is a distribution for suse users that want to be l33t and want to say that they use a source distribution
[14:59] < armijn> then what am I doing here!
[14:59] -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux ()
[14:59] < blindcoder> armijn: yes, it reminds one of SuSE :D
[14:59] < esden> armijn: yes .. looks like redhat
[14:59] -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
[14:59] < armijn> :)
[14:59] < armijn> heheh
[14:59] < blindcoder> hehe
[14:59] < esden> [14:59] < blindcoder> armijn: yes, it reminds one of SuSE :D
[14:59] < esden> [14:59] < esden> armijn: yes .. looks like redhat
[15:00] < esden> armijn: your place is in gentoo ;-)
[15:00] < esden> *GG*
[15:00] < esden> *run*
[15:00] < armijn> well, ok then.
[15:00]   armijn leaves for gentoo
[15:00] -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux ()
[15:01] < huebi> und wech isser...
[15:02] -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
[15:02] < armijn> ha! you guys got shit scared!
[15:02] < Ge0rG> hehe
[15:02] < huebi> 1:0 for gernay
[15:03] < huebi> Germany, I mean
[15:03] < Ge0rG> everyone talks about soccer. why does it have much more attention on geek channels than e.g. robocup?
[15:03] < esden> armijn: no ... you could never go to them  ...  you are not insane enough to do it ;-)
[15:04]   esden answered the guy to forward the mail ...
[15:04]   esden scared
[15:04] < armijn> I know some people that do RoboCup...
[15:05] < armijn> from the Dutch national team...
[15:05] < armijn> it still sucks
[15:05] < Ge0rG> soccer sucks more IMHO.
[15:05] < armijn> excuse me? soccer?
[15:05] < armijn> soccer is for americans..
[15:05] < armijn> in Europe, it's football :)
[15:12] -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux
[15:12] < fake> re.
[15:12] < esden> re fake
[15:12] < huebi> re fake
[15:12] < fake> lag an dem system wo ich das term offenhabe, nicht am apollo/irc-client.
[15:12] < blindcoder> re fake
[15:12] < fake> äääÄÄÄöööÖÖÖüüüÜÜÜßßß
[15:12] < fake> hehe. wie eklig.
[15:13] < Ge0rG> ümläutë
[15:13] < fake> öümlöätöe
[15:13] < Ge0rG> bäñäñë
[15:14]   blindcoder wird schlecht
[15:14] < fake> bläindcödeä `
[15:14] < th> nü hö¤rt döch aüf
[15:14] < fake> aifbäbbsch!
[15:15] < fake> aifabäbbsch.
[15:15] < armijn> new automake...
[15:17] < huebi> *click*
[15:18]   esden successfully subscribed to gentoo-dev && gentoo-users
[15:18] < esden> mailinglists
[15:18]   esden switching to gentoo ;-)
[15:18] < fake> esden: mailaddress: esden@rocklinux.org ? ;))
[15:18] < esden> yepp
[15:18] < fake> >_<
[15:19] < huebi> hehehehe
[15:19] < esden> noo ... only joking
[15:19] < fake> polish espionage techniques.
[15:19] < armijn> yeah, I heard they weren't too successful
[15:19]   esden setting up echelon for gentoo ;-)
[15:20] < huebi> esden@cia.pl
[15:21] < huebi> esden@cia.us.pl <- now nobody will find out how esden is ;-))
[15:21] < huebi> hmm, a perl script?
[15:22] < fake> *lol*
[15:22] < fake> esden's just a perl script.
[15:22] < armijn> quick and dirty
[15:22] < fake> esden@polish.security.agency.gov.pl
[15:23] < esden> I will replace you all with a very small shell script !!!!
[15:23] < th> esden: i wear that tshirt in the moment
[15:23] < aszlig> esden: hehe, thats from fortune :)
[15:23] < fake> th, the tshirt guy.
[15:24] < aszlig> re
[15:24] < esden> uaaaaaarrrggghh ... I am surrounded by freax .... let me out of here !!!!
[15:24] < aszlig> esden: *lol*
[15:24] < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/automake/ <- ROCK is faster than freshmeat ;-))
[15:24] -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh
[15:25] < armijn> freshmeat sucks.
[15:25] < aszlig> esden: r u at bitz?
[15:26] < aszlig> deadly silence :/
[15:26] < huebi> more silence....
[15:27] < armijn> what did you say? are u a bitch?
[15:27] < huebi> even more silence....
[15:27] < aszlig> armijn: /me?
[15:27] < armijn> well, seems like germany won
[15:27] < aszlig> arhg! i hate it!
[15:27] < tsa> won what?
[15:27] < aszlig> armijn: damn germany!
[15:27] < huebi> armijn: you get a second chance to see Germany not becoming world champion ;-))
[15:28] < tsa> aaa...the football thingie again..
[15:28] < tsa> *sigh*
[15:28] < fake> soccer :P
[15:28] < armijn> huebi: well, they shouldn't have become world champion in 1974
[15:28] < armijn> fake: FOOTBALL! not soccer
[15:28] < armijn> bloody amercanski!
[15:28] < fake> soccer soccer niahahah.
[15:28] < Ge0rG> mhm... 6 channels with soccer as the main topic. the rest is idle. isn't there anyone wanting to talk about regular topics? ;)
[15:28] < huebi> sex?
[15:28] < armijn> ge0rg: FOOTBALL! not soccer
[15:29] < Ge0rG> armijn: that depends.
[15:29] < huebi> on sex?
[15:29] < armijn> ge0rg: on what?
[15:29] < Ge0rG> armijn: BE or AE
[15:29] < armijn> ge0rg: BE of course. DUH
[15:29]   esden wants to talk about normall stuff
[15:29] < huebi> armijn: ACK
[15:29] < huebi> esden: sex?
[15:29] < aszlig> yeah /me too
[15:29] < armijn> my motto: "buy European, speak European" :)
[15:29] < esden> but all people prefere footcrap
[15:29] < aszlig> huebi: hrhr
[15:30] < esden> huebi: sex is ok ... but I prefere to talk about it with my girlfriend ... ;-)
[15:30] < Ge0rG> could anyone port locate for reallife? I'd like to index my room so I can faster find things... like my english dictionary
[15:31] < fake> sex is not as good as rock linux.
[15:31] < fake> especially now that i finally found out why gcc3 wouldn't compile on the mips
[15:32] < blindcoder> esden: did germany by any chance win just now?
[15:32] < armijn> compiling gcc3 is better than sex?
[15:32] < huebi> The boyfriend of my sister in law comes from England. So speak british, please.
[15:32] < esden> blindcoder: yes they did
[15:32] < armijn> yeah, speak british, buy dutch
[15:33] < blindcoder> no wonder everyone around behave like 3year-old children...
[15:33] < esden> blindcoder: yepp ... here too ... I am afraid to go home now ...
[15:33] < huebi> armijn: I bought about 100 engines for "Bromfits?" in the Netherlans a few years ago ;-)
[15:34] < armijn> huebi: but you need to buy more!
[15:34] < armijn> but, don't start about tomatoes, ok?
[15:34] < fake> blindcoder: seems like they just now noticed their... err. hupe?
[15:34] < armijn> we fixed them...
[15:34] < blindcoder> fake: yes, and now they want to use it
[15:34] < fake> excessively.
[15:35] < esden> fake: when turks can use them then the germans can too ;-)
[15:35] < huebi> *ROFLOL* dutch tomatoes... rote Wassersaeckchen..
[15:35] < armijn> yeah, I don't like dutch tomatoes either...
[15:35] < huebi> esden: some germans learned something ;-))
[15:36] < esden> huebi: it seems so ;-)
[15:36]   fake just finished his XML Parser Shell-Script ;)
[15:37] < armijn> ROXML?
[15:37] < armijn> why not make all the bootscripts in XML as well?
[15:37] < armijn> <boot>
[15:37] < armijn> </boot>
[15:37] < fake> armijn: no, for work.
[15:37] < huebi> What is the shortest time you can meassure? The time between a traffic light gets yellow in Israel and the second one in the queue starts to honk...
[15:37]   armijn needs to puke
[15:37] < fake> we got some newsfeed that comes as XML.
[15:38] < fake> armijn: too much <heinecken/> ?
[15:38] < armijn> I don't drink Heineken
[15:38] < armijn> it gives me a headache
[15:38] < blindcoder> <Budweiser/>?
[15:38] < armijn> except when it's free :)
[15:39] < esden> yak ... /me hates budwiser
[15:39] < fake> Kaiserkrone!
[15:39] < fake> *g*
[15:39] < esden> heineken is ok when you have nothing else to choose
[15:39] < esden> <Gutmann/>
[15:39] < armijn> well, there's a difference between the dutch heineken and the export heineken
[15:39] < armijn> export heineken is *way* better
[15:40] < fake> heineke is actually the only beer you can drink someway in France
[15:40] < armijn> well, kronenbourg is drinkable...
[15:41] < fake> jep. that was the other one - i forgot. they sell it in these nice little 0.25l bottles.
[15:41] < fake> you can play Cpt. Bluff with them ;)
[15:41] < huebi> armijn: You should visit Franken in the north of Bavaria. In every litte village there is a little brewery.
[15:41] < fake> huebi: armijn likes no german beer. especially no bavarian.
[15:42] < fake> because he thinks i suck an everything i like sucks too.
[15:42] < armijn> there's a beer called "bavaria" here
[15:42] < armijn> it's dutch.
[15:42] < huebi> Stout! and nothing else I say. Nothing=Grohe Export from Darmstadt.
[15:43] < huebi> Ahh, I understand Bavarians are dutch?
[15:43] < fake> Durch are Bavarian.
[15:43] < fake> dutchmen.
[15:44] < fake> hm. oops.
[15:53] < armijn> be careful with that fake...
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[15:55] < huebi> Where can I find out where a computer is located with having it's IP?
[15:55] < armijn> traceroute?
[15:56] < huebi> armijn: There I get the route. I want to have a map of the world with the location marked.
[15:56] < armijn> heh, tough luck
[15:56] < Ge0rG> there are several visual routing apps for windows, don't know of a linux one
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[15:57] < Ge0rG> but they arent precise anyway - they show wrong data for most computers...
[15:57] < huebi> Ge0rG: There is one but I don't find it anymore.
[15:57] < huebi> hi rxr
[15:57] < tsa> hi rxr
[15:58] < tsa> huebi:
[15:58] < tsa> https://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3august/xt/index.html
[15:58] < esden> kk
[15:59] < esden> mail arrived on gentoo-user
[15:59]   esden already answered
[15:59] < tsa> guess that''s what you've been looking for..
[15:59] < hackbard> oh, openssh mal wieder ..
[15:59] < tsa> jo..
[15:59] < huebi> tsa: Jo, thank you!
[16:00] < esden> https://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-June/026454.html
[16:01] < huebi> hackbard: fixed 2 days ago...  https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/openssh/
[16:01] < esden> but I think that this mailinglist is having too much traffic so that there will be no real discussion ...
[16:01] < hackbard> huebi: the rock package?
[16:02] < huebi> hackbard: jo
[16:02] < hackbard> _alle_ versionen vulnerable
[16:02] < huebi> hackbard: doesn't matter
[16:02] < hackbard> keiner weiss nen fix
[16:02] < hackbard> why ?
[16:02] < armijn> heh, are we propellerheads?
[16:03] < armijn> I do have a beanie hat, with a propeller...
[16:03] < huebi> openssh sshd now running privsep by default
[16:03] < tsa> huebi: uhh...mom.
[16:04] < tsa> huebi: this only works if the default kernel is 2.4.x
[16:04] < tsa> openssh-3.3 doesn't like the mmap() implementation in linux 2.2.x kernels..
[16:07] < huebi> tsa: Yes, you mentioned that. I think it will take a few days till a really good working version is out.
[16:09] < esden> armijn: it seems so ;-)
[16:09] < fake> Ein hinduistischer Shadu Baba spielt im nepalesischen Kathmandu auf einer Flöte. Die etwa 300 Heiligen Männer im Pashupati-Tempel sagen Gläubigen und Touristen gegen eine Spende die Zukunft voraus.
[16:09] < tsa> huebi: i hope that version will be released before gobbles' next mail to bugtraq get's accepted..
[16:10] < huebi> I hope so, too.
[16:14] < esden> a question ... what is a propellerhead ??? I can imagine what it is but I am not sure.
[16:15] < esden> It is not in the jargon file
[16:15] < esden> and in no online dictionary I know
[16:16] < huebi> Very intelligent people having the mad squirrel desease
[16:16] < huebi> or so
[16:16] < huebi> or not
[16:16] < esden> mad squirrel desease ???
[16:17] < huebi> like mad cow desease only for squirrels.
[16:17] < huebi> BSE!
[16:17] < tsa> Mathilda!
[16:17] < huebi> BSE fuer Streifenhoernchen ;-)
[16:18] < huebi> (And here she is again, Mathilda)
[16:18] < huebi> MuH!
[16:18] < hackbard> huebi: na und, dann landet der attacker halt im chroot, aber die attacke selbst wird nicht verhindert ..
[16:19] < hackbard> auch nich schoen
[16:19] -!- rolla [~Der@stlmaisenhel.ugs.com] has joined #rocklinux
[16:19] < esden> hi rolla
[16:19] < rolla> hallo
[16:19] < huebi> hackbard: chroot is empty! nothing in there only access to nowhere
[16:19] < tsa> hi rxr
[16:19] < tsa> aargh..
[16:19] < rolla> 1:0 :)
[16:19] < huebi> hi rolla
[16:19] < tsa> hi rolla
[16:20] < th> huebi: is there a shell?
[16:20] < tsa> th: nope.
[16:20] < huebi> th: no nothing
[16:20] < th> ouhm
[16:20] < esden> yes ... rolla the people here in munich are standing on their hoops ...
[16:20] < th> ok
[16:20] < th> ;>
[16:20] < tsa> /var/empty is just empty, nothing else.
[16:20] < rolla> :)
[16:20]   esden gets insain
[16:20] < huebi> ll /var/empty
[16:20] < huebi> .
[16:20] < huebi> ..
[16:20] < huebi> nothing
[16:20] < th> ll /var/empty/nothing
[16:20] < fake> hi rolla !
[16:21] < rolla> :)
[16:22] < rolla> too bad about ballack :(
[16:22] < hackbard> naja, das machst schwieriger, aber man kommt schon raus .. local security is mehr illusion als remote security ;)
[16:25] -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
[16:25] < esden> hi Mike1
[16:26] < Mike1> hi all
[16:26] < Mike1> re esden ;)
[16:26] < armijn> pfrt
[16:26] < huebi> hackbard: How should that be done?
[16:26] < esden> armijn: ???
[16:26] < huebi> hi Mike1
[16:26] < armijn> just pfrt
[16:27] < esden> good armijn ... our ueberpropellerhead ..
[16:27] < esden> i like this word ;-)
[16:29] < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/ip <- does not work and looks like this:
[16:29] < huebi> #!/bin/bash
[16:29] < huebi> echo `/sbin/ifconfig -a| /bin/grep P-t-P`
[16:29] < huebi> any ideas?
[16:31] -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB7525B.ipt.aol.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[16:33] < tsa> huebi: erhm..
[16:33] < fake> echo `/sbin/ifconfig -a | echo`
[16:33] < fake> doesn't work either
[16:33] < tsa> echo Content-Type: text/html
[16:33] < tsa> echo
[16:33] < tsa> echo `ifconfig -a`
[16:33] < fake> huebi: ifconfig ppp0 ?
[16:34] < huebi> testing...
[16:35] < huebi> /sbin/ifconfig -a <works
[16:36] < fake> huebi: https://fake.by-infonet.de/trace.php?ip=<hostname>
[16:37] < fake> huebi: extra fuer dich auf 443 ;)
[16:38] < tsa> fake: BAD IDEA
[16:38] < huebi> dankoe
[16:38] < fake> tsa: yeah?
[16:38] < tsa> https://fake.by-infonet.de/trace.php?ip=127.0.0.1;cat%20/etc/passwd
[16:38] < tsa> hva fun
[16:38] < tsa> have fun
[16:38] < fake> oops
[16:38] < tsa> hahahaha
[16:38] < tsa> *giggle*
[16:38] < huebi> aiii...
[16:38] < tsa> that one was _too_ easy..
[16:39] < fake> :P
[16:39] < tsa> "hacking for beginners, part 1" ;-)
[16:39] < fake> removed. will look at it.
[16:39] < huebi> part 0. before you start....
[16:39] < esden> fake: aaaarrrrgggghhh >_<
[16:39] < fake> esden: calm down. i don't want to know how buggy bchat is ;)
[16:40] < fake> it's removed now, anyways.
[16:40] < esden> fake: I do not want to know !!
[16:40] < esden> but I have escaped all such things correctly in bchat code
[16:40] < armijn> esden: more stuff for you to test
[16:40] < armijn> https://www.bablokb.de/gendist/
[16:41] < huebi> [Tue Jun 25 16:31:45 2002] [error] [client 196.40.25.179] Premature end of script headers: /opt/apache_1.3.24/cgi-bin/ip hmmmm
[16:42] < tsa> ok, feierabend,
[16:43] < tsa> cu all.
[16:43] < hackbard> huebi: wenn root invalid chroot setzen und ab gehts ins richtige root.
[16:43] < huebi> cu tsa
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[16:43] < hackbard> huebi: das kann doch nicht komplett leer sein, ohne bin/sh funktioniert doch kein chroot?
[16:43] < blindcoder> *STRIKE* root on nfs up and running :D
[16:44] < hackbard> huebi: also ich kanns bestimmt nicht exploiten, aber es gibt bestimmt leute die irgendwelche wege finden ..
[16:44] < armijn> huebi: have you started a new build on "rock"?
[16:45] < armijn> a fresh build that is
[16:45] < huebi> armijn: no I didn't
[16:45] < armijn> will you start one?
[16:45] < armijn> pleeeeease?
[16:45] < armijn> with a new kernel config (that works)
[16:45] < huebi> huebi@ella:~$ ssh root@rock
[16:45] < huebi> ssh: connect to address 192.168.100.9 port 22: No route to host
[16:46] < armijn> bwah
[16:46] < huebi> armijn: when I come home I do that.
[16:46] < huebi> on rock and on fels
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[16:46] < armijn> whoohoo!
[16:46] < huebi> huhu thalerim ;-)
[16:46] < armijn> yeah, getting dinner.
[16:46] < armijn> brb
[16:46] < armijn> \
[16:46] < esden> armijn: they are too small ...
[16:47] < esden> therey should be left alone ;-(
[16:47]   huebi having dinner... ;-)
[16:47] < esden> ups
[16:47] < thalerim> moin
[16:47] < esden> )
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[16:47] < esden> hi thalerim
[16:47] < armijn> esden: is that what the girls say as well? "it's too small!"
[16:47] < armijn> ;-)
[16:47]   armijn afk
[16:47] < thalerim> man ich könnte kotzen
[16:48] < huebi> thalerim: think about your keyboard...
[16:49] < thalerim> mal abgesehen davon dass deutschalnd im finale steht :->
[16:49] < thalerim> und auch mal abgesehen davon, dass ich einen bäneriss im vorderen knöchel habe
[16:49] < thalerim> ist mir gestern aufgefallen, dass meine festplatte plötzlich kaputsch war
[16:50] < thalerim> und bis ich mir dann mal ne neue organisiert hatte (man bedenke dem bänderiss)
[16:50] < thalerim> und linux installiert hatte - und nun ist es wieder hin
[16:51] < thalerim> why the heck is fsck a dummy on the rocklinux-cd?????
[16:52] < thalerim> huebi: 1.5.15 is still the newest iso?
[16:53] < huebi> no
[16:53] < fake> itnick, saying, 'I had access to most, if not all, of the switches in Las Vegas,' and tells how he came up with a list of 100 challenge-response codes."
[16:53] < huebi> mom
[16:53] < huebi> https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.16/
[16:54] < huebi> fake: URL?
[16:54] < fake> huebi: on slashdot
[16:54] < esden> muahahaha
[16:54] < esden> lough
[16:55] < fake> huebi: NYT. registration-blahblah.
[16:55] < thalerim> who's responsible for the installdisks (1.5er tree)
[16:55]   esden gets his propeller hat and puts it on ;-)
[16:55] < huebi> thalerim: me
[16:55] < esden> I need such a propeller hat for 19C3 !!!
[16:56]   blindcoder replaces esdens propellar with a sharp razor and puts it upside down on esdens head
[16:56] < thalerim> <thalerim> why the heck is fsck a dummy on the rocklinux-cd????? <-
[16:56] < thalerim> i really _need_ it
[16:56] < esden> thanks blindcoder *jump*
[16:56] < huebi> * esden now looks like a "Moench"
[16:56] < blindcoder> monk
[16:56] < fake> monk of pure code.
[16:56]   esden is a rockmonk
[16:56] < fake> prayer to the god of source.
[16:57] < huebi> thalerim: because ther is not enough space on the boot disk ;-(
[16:57] < fake> seeking wisdom in the depths of the linux kernel
[16:57] < fake> hunted by the closed source devil
[16:58] < thalerim> huebi: ok then run a 'ldd fsck' on you system, please (i cannot, sitting toward a winblows box)
[16:58] < huebi> IMF00YC7:~# ldd /sbin/fsck
[16:59] < huebi> libe2p.so.2 => /lib/libe2p.so.2 (0x4001c000)
[16:59] < huebi> libext2fs.so.2 => /lib/libext2fs.so.2 (0x40021000)
[16:59] < huebi> libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x40036000
[16:59] < huebi> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40039000)
[16:59] < huebi> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
[16:59] < huebi> ok
[16:59]   esden updating download paths in 1.5
[16:59]   esden is bored by this ...
[17:00]   esden wants to see cool bugs to chew on them ;-)
[17:00] < thalerim> huebi: i assume the first three will miss.. or are they on the ramdisk?
[17:02] < thalerim> rock-src-1.5.16.iso <- what's the meaning of the src? does it contain the source of the files (and i'll have to compile) or the compiled binaries?
[17:02] < esden> these are the sources of the packets
[17:02] < esden> you have to compile it ...
[17:03] < thalerim> ####
[17:03] < thalerim> actually i need the newest "just install it" iso
[17:04] < huebi> thalerim: I know the big problem of the too small bootdisk. So the next two weeks are completely reserved for ROCK Liunx. I have to fix mant things and I want to build a few more install disks (xfs/reiserfs) you can then choose from while booting from cd
[17:04] < huebi> thalerim: CPU?
[17:04] < fake> hm... the mips chroot of rock is _much_ faster then the debian
[17:04] < thalerim> i686
[17:04] < fake> *grin*
[17:04] < huebi> thalerim: https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.16/rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.5.16.iso
[17:05] < thalerim> ok
[17:06] < thalerim> is a listing which pkg that contains anywhere?
[17:07] < thalerim> well, actually i mean, does it provide vim ?
[17:08] < esden> haha ... an answer on the gentoo-user mailinglist!!!
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[17:08] < esden> https://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-June/026460.html
[17:13] < thalerim> huebi: kannst du mir mal bitte ein kompiliertes packet von vim irgendwo hochladen? (ich will nur nur ein ausweich system aufstellen, weil ich noch ein paar Sachen an dialog machen muss und das möglichst bald; ohne syntax-highlighting keine chance)
[17:13] < huebi> thalerim: jo
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[17:15] < thalerim> thx!
[17:27] < fake> ls
[17:27] < fake> >_<
[17:29] < huebi> thalerim: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/ia32-vim.tar.bz2
[17:29] < huebi> thalerim: installs under /opt/vim
[17:30] < huebi> optimized for i686
[17:30] < huebi> thalerim: You'll feel the differece - typing is now *way* faster *g*
[17:31] < huebi> +n
[17:32] < esden> hmm ... the discussion on the list starts to be interesting ... i will have to bring in some rocklinux concepts ;-)
[17:33] < fake> esden: no, don't.
[17:33] < esden> fake: why ... it will be fun ;-)
[17:33] < fake> esden: keep observing.
[17:33] < esden> fake: sure
[17:35] < huebi> th: huhu, noch da?
[17:36] < esden> ok ... cu all
[17:36] < huebi> esden: let them read the source of rock. If they are interested they will do it and adopt some thing of ROCK.
[17:36]   esden must go to the tarin
[17:36] < huebi> tarin?
[17:36] < fake> his priest
[17:36] < fake> priest of rock.
[17:36] < huebi> esden: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
[17:36] < esden> hehe ... muahahaha
[17:37] < esden> huebi: read the thread there
[17:37] < esden> I am not a flamewar assasin
[17:37] < esden> ok ...
[17:37] < esden> cu all
[17:37] < fake> cya!
[17:38] < huebi> esden: They'll discuss it or not. I'm very interested in an abstract like in LWN ;-)
[17:38] < thalerim> cu
[17:38] < huebi> thalerim: did you get it
[17:38] < huebi> ?
[17:38] < thalerim> i startet it a minute ago
[17:38] < thalerim> started
[17:38] < huebi> vim too?
[17:39] < thalerim> <thalerim> i startet it a minute ago - it = vim
[17:39] < thalerim> iso: 10%, vim 20%
[17:39] < huebi> ah ok. Have fun. Und alles gute fuer deinen Fuss.
[17:40] < huebi> (Wird wohl mindestens 4-6 Wochen dauern)
[17:40] < fake> der fuss oder der download? ;-)
[17:40] < thalerim> 6wochen bandage
[17:40] < huebi> fake LOL
[18:11] < fake> cal
[18:11] < fake> *argh*
[18:11] < fake> ah. cool. friday is money-day :)
[18:12] < huebi> fake: :-)
[18:21] < fake> blindcoder (18:20): ich red mit ira darüber dass ich mit esden schlafe
[18:21] < fake> o_O
[18:21] < fake> *fg*
[18:22] < huebi> Ich hab's doch geahnt...
[18:22] < huebi> LOL
[18:23] < huebi> mail is out to the list. ;-))
[18:24] < th> huebi: jetzt ja
[18:24] < th> huebi: vim?
[18:25] < huebi> vim kommt auch mit in opt
[18:26] < th> grmpf. also weg aus all meinen ext-config
[18:26] < fake> wird hart : the ISO-Images are made for ia32 i585.
[18:26] < fake> we have binaries before there's even silicon!
[18:27] < huebi> fake: ROCK is just _very_ uptodate *g*
[18:28] < huebi> i chaged the arch intel to ia32 as in 1.7
[18:28] < huebi> +n
[18:28] < fake> actually that's what in the kernel-menu-help for the SB1 Processor (MIPS)
[18:28] < th> huebi: working on 1.7?
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[18:29] < huebi> th: no talking to clifford and we found it is more consistent with this naming chene.
[18:30] < th> huebi: unable to resolve "this"
[18:30] < th> huebi: ich hab eben ein paar stunden geschlafen und nicht zugehoert
[18:30] < fake> == 06/24/02 20:33:35 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc3.
[18:30] < fake> JEEE!
[18:30] < fake> finally.
[18:30] < fake> --disable-libgcj was what it was all about...
[18:31] < huebi> th: 18:28 < huebi> i chaged the arch intel to ia32 as in 1.7
[18:31] < th> huebi: ahh ok.
[18:31] < huebi> cu later ;-)
[18:31] < huebi> have to leave...
[18:32] < fake> cu huebi !
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[18:34] < owl> hi
[18:35] < fake> hi owl!
[18:39] < rolla> owl
[18:40] < blindcoder> fake: for the record: I'm NOT homosexual!
[18:40] < fake> sagt ja keiner? ;-)
[18:40] < blindcoder> 18:21 < fake> blindcoder (18:20): ich red mit ira darüber dass ich mit esden schlafe
[18:41] < fake> blindcoder: i just thought it's funny
[18:42] < fake> blindcoder: but as nobody reads the irclogs except google your little secret is safe ;-)))
[18:44] < blindcoder> ... ... ...
[18:46] -!- kaerF [freak@pD9E39925.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
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[18:55] < snyke> hmm
[18:57]   fake geht ma eine stauben.
[18:58] < snyke> tz
[18:59] < SMP> phew
[19:01] -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: OpenSSH remote vuln. upcoming; upgrade to OpenSSH 3.3 and enable PrivSep! Now! (https://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=102495293705094&w=2)
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[19:06] < fake> hi SMP
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[19:18]   fake compiling openssh 3.3p1
[19:19] < th> /topic $topic | or consider ssh.com
[19:19] < Ge0rG> ssh.com rocks
[19:19] < fake> ssh.com ?
[19:19] < th> www.ssh.com the original ssh
[19:20] < fake> s/original/commercial/ ?
[19:20] < th> the one openssh tries to be compatible with
[19:20] < th> fake: free for commercial use on linux and bsd systems
[19:20] < fake> sweet.
[19:20] < th> as well as for non-commercial use
[19:20] < SMP> *rotfl*
[19:20] < Ge0rG> anyway, what does "open" in openssh mean?
[19:21] < th> it's open
[19:21] < fake> but i'll stick to openssh....
[19:21] < th> fake: i know
[19:21] < th> fake: you all do
[19:21] < SMP> OpenSSH has privsep - ssh.com doesn't
[19:22] < fake> just because there are no bug/vuln reports because it's closed source doesn't mean there are none ;)
[19:22] < SMP> _you really want to have privsep_
[19:22] < SMP> seriously. I'd wish ssh.com were implementing it
[19:22] < th> SMP: well OpenSSH really needs privsep
[19:22] < SMP> th: and ssh.com doesn't, because there are no bugs?
[19:22] < th> fake: the source is not closed
[19:23] < th> SMP: i did not say it that direct ;)
[19:23] < fake> you mean - it's open source, but on OSI compliant license?
[19:23] < fake> on=no
[19:23] < SMP> th: but if you're thinking it, you deserve getting 0wn3d
[19:24] < th> fake: don't know how the license is called. you download the source-code and compile it. and it's free for non-commercial use and for non-commercial and commercial use on linux and bsd
[19:24] < fake> y34h. you d3s3rv3 b3ing 0wnz0r3d! ;)
[19:25] < fake> th> so if i got into the city and read the source out loud everybdoy has a cool, bug-free ssh. open-source.
[19:25] < th> SMP: tons of bug/vuln reports made me feel afraid of openssh
[19:25] < fake> th: better lots of reports than none...
[19:26] < Ge0rG> there are reports on ssh... it just doesnt have so many bugs ;)
[19:26] < SMP> Ge0rG: have you been on #linux.de last Friday (21.6.)?
[19:26] < th> fake: but tell me: why are there _almost_ no bug reports for ssh.com?
[19:26] < Ge0rG> SMP: nope
[19:26] < SMP> Ge0rG: on IRCnet I mean
[19:27] < SMP> oh, yes you have
[19:27] < Ge0rG> SMP: I was on that channel one or two times...
[19:27] < SMP> Ge0rG: so you were the one who changed to topic for the irssi crash?
[19:27] < Ge0rG> SMP: uhm... aeh...
[19:28] < SMP> so?
[19:29] < Ge0rG> it might have been me...
[19:29] < Ge0rG> I've toggled the irssi bug on several channels, don't remember if I did it on #linux.de too
[19:30] < SMP> so you think this was funny?
[19:30] < SMP> or a good idea?
[19:34] < SMP> would you mind explaining yourself?
[19:36] -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ
[19:36] < th> "StGB §328, Abs. 2, Nr. 3: Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine nukleare Explosion verursacht oder einen anderen zu dieser Handlung verleitet oder eine solche Handlung fördert."
[19:36] < th> SMP: (das ist dein mate supplier)
[19:36] < Ge0rG> SMP: at that time I thought so.
[19:37] < Ge0rG> sometimes its just great to forget about the consequences and to do something evil.
[19:39] <@SMP> so - are you trying to say that you have changed you mind?
[19:40] <@SMP> 'your mind'
[19:41] < th> SMP: if he had not done so - would you still use buggy irssi?
[19:41] <@SMP> hehe
[19:42] < Ge0rG> SMP: at least I've stopped exploiting it everywhere I get ;)
[19:43] < Ge0rG> SMP: but whats the problem? a crashing irssi is a pretty regular thing...
[19:43] <@SMP> I am accepting this as an apology..
[19:43] < Ge0rG> happens here once in a while too
[19:43] -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP
[19:43] < th> lol
[19:43] < Ge0rG> SMP: sorry that I've hit you. it was really nothing personal.
[19:44] < th> nice show, SMP
[19:44] < SMP> go watch Spider-Man and learn how great power implies great responsiblity ;>
[19:44]   fake cant resist imagining SMP with a big double-bladed sword...
[19:45] < th> SMP: LOL
[19:45] < fake> <-- playing too much Neverwinter Night s>_<
[19:45] < Ge0rG> fake: hehe
[19:45] < th> SMP: spiderman was great ;)
[19:45] < SMP> (Op needed for pending /kick)
[19:45] < th> fake: (-!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP) and he just put his sword back on his back.
[19:46] < fake> th: i know ;)
[19:46] < SMP> 'sword' isn't the word
[19:46] < SMP> I use a LART
[19:46] < th> hehe
[19:46] < Ge0rG> ,oO( channel is -t.... must resist... no topic games... ;) )
[19:46] < fake> LART?
[19:46] < th> SMP: Ge0rG could be 120% LART resistant
[19:47] < th> fake: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool
[19:47] < fake> *LOL*
[19:47] < Ge0rG> being LARTed would be really humiliating...
[19:48] < SMP> Ge0rG: the problem isn't "a crashing irssi". it is that denying people communication cannot be accepted
[19:50] < Ge0rG> SMP: I know. thats why I always did reset the topic after a minute or so
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[19:51] < armijn> re
[19:51] < fake> SMP what is the # of the sshd user?
[19:51] < SMP> pardon?
[19:52] < SMP> ah..
[19:52] < SMP> uid=19(sshd) gid=19(sshd) groups=19(sshd)
[19:52] < fake> tnx...
[19:52] < armijn> blah.
[19:52] < SMP> at least in 1.4 / 1.5
[19:52] < armijn> I ran out of beer.
[19:52]   fake on suse >_<
[19:52] < fake> at work - not my choice.
[19:52] < SMP> uhm
[19:53] < SMP> you better not use 19 then
[19:53] < Ge0rG> fake: maybe its time for some knoppix-like rock which can be cd-booted and used on the fly? ;)
[19:53] < armijn> I heard that this knoppix stuff was pretty kool
[19:53] < fake> SMP: well, it's not really important which number it is, as long as it is not 1, right?
[19:53] < SMP> Ge0rG: in theory it has been done already
[19:54] < SMP> s,0,1, ;>
[19:54] < SMP> argh
[19:54] < SMP> other way round
[19:54] < SMP> I need breakfast, damnit
[19:54] < fake> yeah.
[19:54] < th> y,01,10,
[19:54] < armijn> breakfast?
[19:54] < fake> especially coffee ;)
[19:55] < armijn> SMP: had rough night?
[19:55] < SMP> recovering from monday morning
[19:55] < th> a cool club-mate is a cool idea
[19:56] < SMP> th: mind dropping some here when you're visiting SO next time? ;)
[19:57] < armijn> SMP: recovering from monday morning?
[19:57] < th> SMP: i'll do so as soon the supply is established through esden and fake
[19:57] < armijn> SMP: that was yesterday morning...
[19:57] < SMP> [X] armijn can count
[19:57] < SMP> ;p
[19:58] < Ge0rG> #rocklinux, the secret club mate network
[19:58] < th> SMP: i've only 3 bottles left. perhaps Ge0rG has some left for you
[19:58] < armijn> SMP: so, what happened yesterday morning?
[19:58] < Ge0rG> mhm... let me think about it....
[19:58] < armijn> SMP: if it was really rough, I'd go for the English breakfast
[19:59] < esden> re hi all
[20:00] < armijn> hi esden
[20:01] < SMP> armijn: monday morning I had to repair a broken down harddisk in one packetfilter. after already being awake 14hrs. driving 1,5hrs. then not having the right screwdriver. then not knowing OpenBSD fdisk well enough
[20:01] < Ge0rG> SMP: I think that'll go ok, but it depends on when the "distribution network" will be running
[20:02] < SMP> Ge0rG: I don't need to many ATM. I hope th agrees to bring them around next chance. th?
[20:02] < armijn> SMP: and no breakfast.
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[20:02] < Babyface> hoi
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[20:02] < Ge0rG> I've promised someone to give him a crate, but I think he can wait until the distro works... then I'd give it to th and you 'd get some bottles too
[20:03] < armijn> bottles of what?
[20:03] < SMP> armijn: Club-Mate
[20:03] < Ge0rG> ok, babyface is responsible for the koeln-magdeburg link :)
[20:03] < armijn> ah...mate...
[20:04] < Ge0rG> fake: still here?
[20:04] < SMP> Ge0rG: who's that? th?
[20:04] < th> SMP: no
[20:04] < SMP> th: sorry ;)
[20:04] < th> hehe
[20:04] < th> ;)
[20:04] < fake> damn it.
[20:04] < SMP> maybe we should all join #club-mate ..? ;)
[20:04] < fake> my just-compiled sshd does not work.
[20:04] < armijn> nah
[20:04] < Ge0rG> hm... boerde.de might go offline in the next minutes
[20:05] < fake> Jun 25 22:06:44 freia sshd[17998]: fatal: mmap(65536): Invalid argument
[20:05] < fake> *ARGH*
[20:05] < armijn> SMP: I'd go for the english breakfast.
[20:05] < fake> DONT TELL ME
[20:05] < fake> 2.2
[20:05] < fake> *DOUH*
[20:05] < fake> 2.2.19
[20:06] < fake> ok... forget about privsep for now...
[20:06] < SMP> armijn: we're having a BBQ right now. maybe I should go over..
[20:06] < SMP> fake: PAM?
[20:06] < armijn> SMP: yeah, maybe you should
[20:06] < fake> SMP: yes
[20:06] < th> SMP: next WE SO comes here... have to ask her for _our_ plans in a fortnight
[20:06] < fake> wee. and now i have to go upstairs to fix it - just kicked me out.
[20:07] < SMP> privsep does have problems with PAM..
[20:07] < SMP> bug your vendor..
[20:07] < fake> suse suxx bug time.
[20:07] < fake> well... i'll try without PAM then.
[20:07] < fake> cya later
[20:08] < SMP> th: yeah, whatever.. as I said.. 'next time possible'
[20:09] < th> SMP: no problem
[20:10] < Ge0rG> ,oO( 20 club mate crates start in muenchsteinach, 2 reach smp, rest vanishes )
[20:10] < SMP> I have a crate of empty bottels here, btw. ..
[20:11] < SMP> can I get the refund at any supermarket?
[20:11] < Ge0rG> mate bottles?
[20:11] < th> SMP: i really don't know
[20:11] < Ge0rG> I doubt it.
[20:12] < SMP> or do empty crates have to travel 'upstream' to suppy-chain? ;)
[20:12] < SMP> supply-chain ..
[20:12] < Ge0rG> if you drive them to berlin you get 50¢ more for them ;)
[20:12] < th> Ge0rG: refund in berlin is higher?
[20:12] < th> Ge0rG: hey that's an real-world exploit!
[20:13] < Ge0rG> th: at least I had to pay more. I suppose if I pay 5¤ for the crate plus 12 for the content, then I get 5¤ back when returning the crate
[20:14] < th> hope so
[20:14] < Ge0rG> th: not really - imagine the cost for transferring empty bottles from muenchsteinach (I should make an alias for that word) to berlin
[20:16] < praenti> hi
[20:17] < th> Ge0rG: muenchsteinach (word xbuffered) has no empty botles for us. we have empty bottles in ST
[20:19] < Ge0rG> th: they've got full bottles. getting them empty is a hard job too ;)
[20:19] < praenti> does anyone know how clifford is?
[20:19] < praenti> nerd is offline, he is offline
[20:20] < armijn> who's clifford?
[20:20] < th> Ge0rG: we really need to care about empty crates...
[20:21] < praenti> armijn: ... ;-)
[20:21] < praenti> perhaps the omnipotent person?
[20:22] < praenti> or better clifford=root?
[20:22] < praenti> ok. i'm away. cya tomorrow
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[20:33] < Ge0rG> that was an irssi crash ;)
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[20:39] < d3mian> hi all!
[20:44] < esden> hi d3mian
[20:45] < armijn> hi
[20:45] < d3mian> ahhmm!, i feel so gut, ive left the Uni!
[20:46] < armijn> finished studies?
[20:46] < esden> d3mian: ?????
[20:46] < armijn> or are you just another drop out?
[20:47] < d3mian> no, vacations! .. the end of semester
[20:47] < esden> arggggghhh
[20:47] < th> d3mian: i thought it would be something interesting
[20:47] < esden> d3mian: I HATE YOU
[20:47] < d3mian> ill leave the Uni in 6 yrs i guess!
[20:47] < d3mian> hehe, da u continue studying hard esden?
[20:48] < esden> yes ... I have three exams next month ...
[20:49] < d3mian> ouch, ic
[20:49] < armijn> grrr
[20:50] < fake> SMP: it's not the PAM support. PAM works.
[20:50] < fake> it's indeed an incompatibility to the 2.2 kernel
[20:51] < armijn> heh
[20:52] < fake> this traps me in a problematic situation.
[20:52] < fake> i could either dump the 2.2.19-suse kernel which is certified and the only one officially allowed for doing IPSec with SAP
[20:53] < fake> and use 2.4, also replacing that damn brainfsckd SuSE firewall script
[20:53] < fake> or i could just leave it there wit no PrivSep and wait until my employer dies.
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[20:53] < fake> btw: i couldn't bug SuSE because it's 6.4 - which is no longer supported.
[20:56]   fake wirft eine runde bruehend heissen espresso in den channel
[20:56] < fake> *flatsch*
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[20:56] < fake> btw: i chosse #2 ;-)
[20:56] < esden> fake: danke
[20:56] < esden> dass brauche ich jetzt
[20:58]   esden heizt sich wasser fuer einen cappu auf
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[21:01]   fake listening to Rammstein - Wollt Ihr nicht auch das Bett in Flammen sehen?
[21:01]   d3mian listen Dimmu Borgir - Burn in Hell
[21:01] < fake> hm. das sollte wohl Wollt Ihr das Bett in Flammen heissen.
[21:02] < fake> Dimmu Borgir rulez ;)
[21:02] < fake> In Death's Embrace is my fav
[21:02] < d3mian> sure ! :)
[21:02] < d3mian> Puritanicals mine
[21:02] < fake> thoug a Succubus in Rapture (?) is also good.
[21:03] < fake> yeah like Puritanicals too ;)
[21:03] < d3mian> dunno, never listened about that song
[21:03] < d3mian> well, have to leave now
[21:03] < fake> cya!
[21:03] < Ge0rG> hm... i should put the ram back into the 486 before booting it...
[21:03] < d3mian> ill be @ home for a long time, without contact!
[21:03] < snyke> hmm
[21:03] < d3mian> rammstein is funny too
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[21:04] < fake> perl is a bitch.
[21:05] < snyke> muahaha
[21:06] < esden> fake: ... good to fuck ;-)
[21:06] < rolla> perl is not a bitch ;)
[21:09] < [anders]> perl is handy...
[21:09]   [anders] use it frequently at work..
[21:10] < rolla> ja
[21:11] < fake> bash is better ;-)
[21:12] < [anders]> depends what you do.. if you do lots of pattern matching and stepping through lines, search&replace... perl is better..
[21:12] < fake> it's a question of personal favour i think.
[21:12] < rolla> yes it is :)
[21:12] < fake> rolla: gcc3 now compiles on mips.
[21:13] < fake> after i found out that gcj is simply not supported on mips yet - and no configure test warns you / disables it.
[21:13] < [anders]> I use bash when I want to type a problem fast, if I want to try an elegant sollution, perl it is.. ;-)
[21:13] < [anders]> solution even..
[21:14] < rolla> sweet
[21:16] < Ge0rG> "perl" and "elegant" don't belong in the same sentence ;)
[21:16] < th> ack
[21:17] < rolla> it is one own opion :)
[21:17] < fake> Ge0rG: ym friend ;-)
[21:17] < fake> my
[21:18] < th> i'm using python for more complex scripting tasks
[21:18]   fake drives home now
[21:18] < Ge0rG> "is there any perl analogon to the obfuscated C contest?" -- "Yes, it's called CPAN"
[21:19] < Ge0rG> Uncompressing Linux...
[21:19] < Ge0rG> this 486 sucks :)
[21:19] < th> Ge0rG: hehe :)
[21:20] < esden> cu all
[21:20] < th> lat0r esden  ;)
[21:20] < Ge0rG> lat0r is l33t sp34k...
[21:21] < Ge0rG> hey, it boots! :)
[21:21] < rolla> I found typo in Documentation :(
[21:21] < th> Ge0rG: it rocks
[21:22] < Ge0rG> mhm... would knoppix boot with 36mb ram? ;)
[21:22] < th> which tasks is knoppix for?
[21:23] < Ge0rG> having fun on foreign machines? ;)
[21:23] < Ge0rG> the 486 root disk contains "dmesg" as a link to busybox but the busybox module isnt compiled.
[21:24] < th> Ge0rG: please specify "fun" in that sense
[21:25] < Ge0rG> dunno
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[21:41] < [anders]> woohooo.. /me got hold of an old Erasure song, "Neverending Story"...
[21:41] < [anders]> I wasn't aware Erasure had done it, but it does sound very much like Erasure..
[21:44] < WKaibigan> Wasn't that sung by Limahl
[21:47] < Ge0rG> hm... having a "real" shell with history and tab completion on the root floppy would be a dream... is it possible?
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[21:48] < fake> hm. i'd really like to have a short, violent chat with the guys from the "Verbraucherschutzministerium".
[21:49] < fake> everybody - even non smokers - know what a lighter costed at the gas station before the euro was invented - 1 DM.
[21:49] < fake> guess what the exactly same lighter costs now...
[21:49] < fake> bingo. 1 EUR.
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[21:49] < Ge0rG> re
[21:49] < fake> it's really disgusting
[21:49] < Ge0rG> hm... having a "real" shell with history and tab completion on the root floppy would be a dream... is it possible?
[21:50] < fake> Ge0rG: i'd prefer to have fsck.ext2 first.
[21:51] < Ge0rG> fake: ok, thats a point
[21:51] < fake> Ge0rG: huebi will work extensively on the boot/install-disks in the coming two weeks
[21:52] < Ge0rG> yet another bug (is anyone writing that down?): I've got /mnt and /mnt/boot mounted (/mnt is install target), and when I make df in the rock install shell (1.5.16, i486), I get only the space on /mnt/boot displayed.
[21:52] < rxr> Ge0rG: in dRock we have all this on the install-disk ...
[21:52] < fake> esden also did a lot of work an a dietlibc-target, which will be used for the 1.7/2.0 install/boot disks
[21:52] < rxr> ext2/3, reiserfs and bash (with completion and history ...) ...
[21:52]   rxr off learning ...
[21:53] < th> Ge0rG: /trg is dedicated mountpoint for installtarget
[21:54] < th> Ge0rG: just mount /trg and /src and run "Install" or just untarbz2 all base-pkgs to /trg
[21:55] < th> Ge0rG: root-kombo still has bash, IIRC
[21:55] < th> Ge0rG: and btw... just untarbz2 bash.tar.bz2 and run bash
[21:55] < th> Ge0rG: could be untared to target or ramfs
[21:57] < Ge0rG> I've tried /dst which wasn't there so I took /mnt ;)
[21:57] < th> Ge0rG: /trg is there
[21:57] < Ge0rG> th: I was too lazy to type ls /
[21:58] < th> Ge0rG: you were too lazy to read
[21:58] < th> /trg is the default target for Install binary. did u use install-shell?
[21:59] < Ge0rG> nope, Install.bin in the rock-dir
[21:59] < Ge0rG> reading is for the case where everything else has failed.
[21:59] < th> just use "Install"
[21:59] < Ge0rG> ok, next time then
[21:59] < th> mount /src and /trg and "Install" without arguments ;)
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[22:06] < fake> hi simon-! any luck?
[22:07] < fake> SMP ?
[22:07] < SMP> fake?
[22:08] < fake> SMP: now i see 3 sshds running when logged in. 2 as root and one as the user logged in...
[22:08] < fake> shouldn't one of those be running as sshd ?
[22:08] < SMP> no.
[22:09] < fake> hm... and i'll have to wait for the exploit to test wether it worked ;)
[22:09] < SMP> one of the three is the daemon listening on the socket. it has nothing to do with your login (anymore)
[22:09] < SMP> on the other ones:
[22:10] < SMP> https://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/ssh/privsep.html
[22:11] < huebi> re
[22:12] < SMP> basically, what you are seeing is the 'user-privileged' sshd
[22:12] < SMP> the 'unprivileged' sshd only exists until the authentication has completed
[22:13] < fake> aaaw! i always wondered what it's doing while waiting for authentication.
[22:13] < fake> re huebi !
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[22:20]   huebi reading log ;-)
[22:26] < rolla> argh now rsync is dead
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[23:03] < holyolli> re
[23:06] < fake> re holyolli
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[23:30] < fake> gm... damn it.
[23:30] < fake> ldconfig segfaulting again
[23:42] < Ge0rG> mhm.... default kernel should maybe have sysrq
[23:42] < fake> ldconfig is segfaulting. without ltrace/strace able to compile - how can i find out what's wrong?
[23:46] < SMP> Ge0rG: I talked to Clifford about that at 18C3. he said he'd disable sysreq (again) because it's security problem (with is correct IMO)
[23:47] < Ge0rG> SMP: sure it is, but everyone who can spell security builds his own kernel anyway :)
[23:48]   Ge0rG remembers the rocklinux stand on 18C3
[23:48] < SMP> security should be for everyone
[23:48] < SMP> even if it is sometimes hard to do
[23:49] < fake> can nobody gimme a hint?
[23:49] < SMP> /usr/bin/gdb
[23:49] < fake> gdb doesn't work
[23:49] < SMP> uh-oh
[23:49] < fake> well gdb works, but it doesn't report the problem.
[23:49] < SMP> printf()-debugging then
[23:49] < SMP> ;-(
[23:49] < fake> SMP> *ugh*
[23:50] < fake> well.. what the hell. it's just 2 .c files.
[23:50] < fake> ld.so :D
[23:53] < fake> *ARGH*
[23:53] < fake> it's even worse
[23:53] < fake> i just copied over debian's strace
[23:53] < huebi> I just found sth: "Internet Public Access Guide" - "A Guide for Accessing the Internet through Unix-based Computer Systems" from 1994
[23:53] < huebi> kool!
[23:54] < fake> it works for some libraries, but then it segfaults. guess what? always segfaulting when working on another lib.
[23:54] < fake> this is uber-nasty
[23:54] < huebi> 29 lines about www. hehe
[23:54] < fake> old_mmap(NULL, 228416, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 4, 0) = 0x2aaa9000
[23:55] < fake> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
[23:56] < fake> no, i have to correct: seems to be at libreadline...
[23:57] < fake> nope.
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