--- Log opened Sat Jul 06 00:00:06 2002 --- Day changed Sat Jul 06 2002 00:00 < Mike1> huebi: it is running linux 2.4.4 will that be a problem huebi? 00:03 < huebi> with devfs? 00:03 < Mike1> damn :( 00:03 < Mike1> no 00:03 < Mike1> guess i'm going to have to work a bit on it first 00:04 < huebi> Yes, it seems so 00:04 < huebi> root@fels:/rock-linux# uname -a 00:04 < huebi> Linux fels 2.4.18-rc4 #1 SMP Sun Jun 23 10:12:24 MEST 2002 sparc64 unknown 00:04 < Mike1> root@mail:/home/mike/Dev# uname -a 00:04 < Mike1> Linux mail 2.4.4 #9 SMP Mon May 21 22:31:36 PDT 2001 sparc64 unknown 00:05 < Mike1> *g 00:07 -!- vob [~vob@pD9E8BD92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:07 < Mike1> hi vob 00:13 < snyke> "*!*@*" @ vob 00:15 < huebi> snyke: ?? 00:17 < Mike1> Its great to have time again for development 00:17 * Ge0rG is building mplayer on his krups... am I sick? 00:18 < huebi> Ge0rG: No, if you've had choosen a pocket calculator one could think so ;> 00:19 < Ge0rG> huebi: are there calculators with linux? I'd like to get one 00:19 < Ge0rG> ;) 00:19 * huebi reactivating a i486 without MMU and 4MB RAM 00:19 < Mike1> huebi: :) nice 00:19 < huebi> so it's not an i486 ... 00:20 < Ge0rG> i486 without MMU? did you solder it out? 00:20 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B57ca.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:20 < owl> hi 00:20 < Mike1> shouldnt it be called h486 00:20 < huebi> Ge0rG: it's an embedded CPU I think 00:20 < Ge0rG> huebi: aah, ok 00:20 < Mike1> hi owl 00:20 < owl> hi mike1 00:20 * Ge0rG should try harder to get linux running on the powermac 6100... 00:21 < huebi> hi owl ;-)) 00:21 * Mike1 is getting back to the rock router development 00:21 < Ge0rG> demux_mov.c:57: warning: #warning Check the implementation of char2short and char2int on BIGENDIAN!!! 00:21 < Ge0rG> mhm... is the sparc LE or BE? 00:22 < Mike1> huebi: are you into embedded projects? 00:24 < huebi> Ge0rG: Intel = little endian 00:24 < huebi> sparc = BE 00:25 < huebi> Mike1: No, this thing seems to be a terminal server... 00:26 < Mike1> huebi: oh, i want to get on the rock router work based on the 1.5 tree, then i will work on a embedded system and run the router on it 00:27 < huebi> Mike1: kool idea, The Pocket Router ;-) 00:27 < Mike1> thought i will be bothering all the time around here asking questions about everything 00:28 < Mike1> sure a pocket router 00:28 < Mike1> firewall included 00:28 < Mike1> :-) 00:36 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB7B65F.ipt.aol.com] has quit () 00:55 -!- SanityInAnarchy [~sanity@crownfirew.fairfield.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:56 < Ge0rG> fbdev: 8 bpp output is not supported. 00:56 < Ge0rG> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device! 00:56 < Ge0rG> mhm... 00:56 < SanityInAnarchy> ok, what is rock linux? can't be bothered to start mozilla again... 00:57 < th> SanityInAnarchy: rocklinux is a metadistribution. 00:57 < Mike1> Ge0rG: ?? 00:57 < th> SanityInAnarchy: ideal for creating admin-friendly linuxes 00:57 < SanityInAnarchy> th: ah, had enough of those already -- i'm on gentoo now 00:57 -!- SanityInAnarchy [~sanity@crownfirew.fairfield.net] has left #rocklinux () 00:57 < Ge0rG> Mike1: trying mplayer on the krups 00:58 < th> Ge0rG: vorher solltest du igafb fixen ;) 00:58 < Ge0rG> th: das ist langweilig ;) 00:58 < Mike1> th: cant believe how people spect rock to user-friendly as gentoo 00:59 < Mike1> Ge0rG: wow you will have to show me sometime :) 00:59 < Ge0rG> Mike1: I'd like to... but there is still nothing to show but error messages 01:00 < th> fascinating error messages 01:00 < Mike1> amazing error messages :) 01:00 < th> thrilling error messages 01:01 < Mike1> awesome error messages 01:01 < Mike1> lol 01:01 < th> Ge0rG: what did YOU expect? you've choosen rocklinux ;) 01:02 < th> Ge0rG: get your SuSE Linux 8.0 for Krups ;) 01:02 < Mike1> th: BTW very nice definition of rock linux 01:02 < Ge0rG> IGA1682 seems to be supported by XFree, and since krups is a PCI 01:02 < Ge0rG> system, it should be possible to built an XFree server for it. 01:02 < th> including mplayer, opengl and all that nice stuff 01:02 < Ge0rG> -- https://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-sparc/2002/01/08/0000.html 01:03 < Ge0rG> audio works on netbsd too 01:05 < Ge0rG> I don't have a cross compile environment, so someone else should build XFree and find out :) 01:06 < th> Ge0rG: perhaps huebi will provide you a cross-env 01:07 < th> ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/uwe/ <-- try these 01:09 < Ge0rG> hm... looks like kernels... but having a kernel only is no fun 01:10 < th> Ge0rG: but should be enough to check the frequency 01:10 < Ge0rG> th: I doubt that the netbsd kernel has any code to change the gfx mode 01:10 < Ge0rG> maybe it even doesn't have a fb console 01:11 < th> Ge0rG: do you have a clue about the rdev figures to set vidmode? 01:11 < Ge0rG> I doubt it would work. 01:11 < th> Ge0rG: i tried setting some differnet vidmodes but it just resulted in the krups not booting 01:11 < th> but i did not understand what i was setting 01:35 < Ge0rG> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) 01:35 < Ge0rG> mhm... yet another amazing error message ;) 01:38 < Mike1> Ge0rG: ur are running debs on it right? 01:38 < Mike1> devfs* 01:38 < Mike1> and rock right? 01:39 < Ge0rG> yeah 01:39 < Ge0rG> I know I can symlink it away.. 01:39 < Mike1> so go ahead :) 01:39 < Ge0rG> but making a current X server with appropriate device names would be cleanter 01:39 < Mike1> that should do it :) 01:40 < Ge0rG> -t 01:45 < Ge0rG> mhm... this x server doesn't even have the appropriate libs, its just a binary with some attached font files :/ 01:52 < th> 01:35:05 < Ge0rG> xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory) 01:52 < th> Ge0rG: you are over it? 01:52 < Ge0rG> th: sure I am 01:53 < th> ok 01:55 < Mike1> hackbard: you still awake? 01:55 < fake> re. 01:55 < Ge0rG> hi fake 01:55 < Mike1> re fake 01:59 < fake> |\|0z ph34r 4+|_| 02:02 < hackbard> sure 02:03 < huebi> hi fake 02:04 < huebi> Mike1: root@zeus:/rock-linux# ls dist/var/adm/logs/*err |wc -l 02:04 < huebi> ls: dist/var/adm/logs/*err: No such file or directory 02:04 < huebi> 0 02:05 < huebi> Mike1: all should work with the snap 02:05 < Mike1> huebi: of course its Miguel-Edition what else could you spect? 02:06 < huebi> hehe 02:06 < Mike1> now seriously great huebi :) 02:06 < Mike1> i am still on stage 2 this is taking forever 02:08 < huebi> Mike1: here it needed about 8h I think 02:08 < Mike1> what kind of machine do you have??? 02:08 < Mike1> 8h for stage 1 or for the whole Build? 02:09 < huebi> dual AMD XP1800+, 1GB RAM, 1GB swap, 2x 18GB scsi. 8h for the whole build without rebuild base+opt. 02:10 < huebi> stage 1 = 30 min. 02:10 < Mike1> that explains everything 02:10 < Mike1> grrr 02:10 < Ge0rG> hehe 02:24 < huebi> th: The changelog does not change ;( 02:24 < th> huebi: it did 02:25 < th> strange 02:25 < huebi> th: yep, really strange. 02:26 < th> when did you commit? 02:26 < huebi> in the last minutes.. 02:26 < huebi> about 10 commits 02:30 < Mike1> huebi: i started a Build a clean build some hours ago on 1.5.17 02:30 < Mike1> do you want me to sent a report to the list? 02:31 < huebi> ** Finished (07/05/02 22:41:59 - 07/06/02 02:30:56) ** 02:31 < huebi> Mike1: Yes please, do so 02:31 < Mike1> rock-linux list? 02:31 < huebi> jo 02:32 < Mike1> ok i will do it as far as now no problems at all looks like all the problems i had have been fixed 02:32 < Mike1> nice job andreas 02:33 < huebi> Thank you. 02:33 < Mike1> i should be around bothering you more oftenly :) 02:34 < huebi> jo ;-) Do that. 02:35 < Mike1> BTW where should i sent patches? 02:35 < Mike1> since i am starting to have more time i am going to mak emy best to contribute on the 1.5 tree 02:36 < huebi> send them to the list. So everybody can use them. also in 1.7 02:36 < Ge0rG> cu 02:37 < Mike1> bye Ge0rG 02:37 < huebi> cu Ge0rG 02:37 < Mike1> huebi: good 02:40 < th> huebi: the postcommit run is still scheduled 02:40 < th> staring in a few seconds 02:40 < th> starting 02:40 < huebi> th: how often does it run? 02:40 < th> */10 02:40 < th> but when it is started with cron it finishes too fast 02:41 < th> grmpf 02:41 < th> if i do it by hand it works 02:41 < huebi> install-disks failed. I'll fix it later.. 02:41 < huebi> good night. 02:42 < th> later huebi 02:43 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 02:44 < th> huebi: it works if i do it by hand 02:44 < huebi> hmm. starnge.. 02:44 < th> hmm 02:44 * huebi just prepares a new build on sparc 02:45 < th> oerhaps a question of $PATH 02:45 < huebi> jo 02:45 < Mike1> huebi: install disks failed? 02:45 < Mike1> have a good night andreas 02:45 < huebi> Mike1: jo it failed. I'll fix it in about 6h 02:46 < th> ich auch bett 02:46 < th> later.. 02:46 < Mike1> huebi: ok good i will talk to you tomorrow and hopefully we start build on sparc 02:47 < huebi> I now start one ;-) 02:47 < Mike1> huebi: have fun then :) 02:57 < owl> g8. bye 02:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B57ca.pppool.de] has quit ("compiling kernel. sleeping. almost dead") 03:02 < Mike1> party time see you tomorrow 03:02 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 03:26 < huebi> n8 05:01 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:36 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:46 -!- cereion [~cereion@adsl-66-137-140-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:47 < cereion> hello> 05:47 < cereion> ? 05:47 < cereion> is rocklinux back on thr project? 05:47 < cereion> is anyone up? 05:49 -!- cereion [~cereion@adsl-66-137-140-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 05:50 -!- cereion [~cereion@adsl-66-137-140-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #Rocklinux 06:38 -!- cereion [~cereion@adsl-66-137-140-169.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #Rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 08:41 -!- subshop [~daemon@SP1-24.207.213.144.charter-stl.com] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 -!- subshop [~daemon@SP1-24.207.213.144.charter-stl.com] has left #rocklinux () 08:58 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:01 < huebi> moin 09:15 < SMP> moep 09:16 < huebi> Morgen SMP. Schoen das du wacg bist. ;-)) 09:17 < huebi> 1.5.17 hat auf intel nur noch einen Fehler ;-) 09:18 < SMP> welchen= 09:18 < SMP> ? 09:18 < huebi> die install-disks werden am Schluss nicht gebaut. 09:19 < huebi> Ich bin gerade am suchen, was es genau ist. 09:19 < SMP> gibt's nen .err? 09:20 < huebi> **** Create 'modules-disk.img' **** 09:20 < huebi> tar: Cannot add file lib/modules/*/pcmcia: No such file or directory 09:20 < huebi> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors 09:21 < huebi> == 07/06/02 02:27:12 =[S]=> Building subdistribution install-disks. 09:21 < huebi> Da war das drin. 09:22 < SMP> welches package enthaelt denn die modules? 09:22 < huebi> linux 09:23 < SMP> ja.. kontrollier das mal im linux.tar.bz2 09:23 < huebi> mach ich 09:24 < huebi> SMP: bist noch oder schon wach? 09:24 < SMP> schon. 09:24 < SMP> *freu* ;) 09:24 < huebi> Ahh, gut. ;-)) 09:24 < SMP> seit 10 vor 7.. 09:25 < [anders]> moin 09:25 < huebi> MoeP! [anders] ;-) 09:25 < [anders]> hi there huebi :) 09:25 < [anders]> just the person I was looking for.. ;-) 09:26 * SMP wonders if 'moin' is going to be adopted into English ;) 09:26 < huebi> I'm awake since 8:30 or so. Ella come back to bed and wanted to play 09:27 < [anders]> SMP: dunno.. I was using 'hoi' over two years ago w/o knowing it was used here as well.. 09:27 < [anders]> in any case, got a wee problem here.. building install disks.. 09:27 < huebi> [anders]: mom 09:28 < [anders]> it says 'building subdistribution archive(s) 09:28 < [anders]> ' 09:28 < SMP> [anders]: we were just talking about that problem ;) 09:28 < [anders]> boot-disk/README -> ./README 09:28 < [anders]> tar warning, flag I not supported, perhaps you mean j 09:29 < SMP> eh? 09:29 < [anders]> what, you were talking about the tar problem? 09:29 < SMP> no, we weren't ;-O 09:29 < huebi> [anders]: 09:20 < huebi> tar: Cannot add file lib/modules/*/pcmcia: No such file or directory 09:29 < [anders]> I have been going through everything to find where tar -xI or -cI is being used and it appears it might be in Install.bin as well.. 09:30 < [anders]> huebi: ah, no. not seen that one.. 09:31 < huebi> [anders]: rock-ia32-k7-1.5.17/info/logs/s-install-disks.err <- is there the error? 09:36 < [anders]> huebi: let me check 09:36 < [anders]> huebi: I can dcc you the file.. 09:37 < huebi> ok lets try it. 09:37 < huebi> Yippi, I got it ;-)) 09:38 < [anders]> huebi: :-) 09:38 < [anders]> As far as I can tell, somewhere there is the use of tar -I rather than tar -j.. 09:38 < [anders]> I have tried to change it everywhere I can find it, but not been successfull (obviously) 09:41 < SMP> well, the I switch is correct. 09:41 < SMP> it has to workd 09:42 < huebi> [anders]: I have made an alpha snapshot last night. 09:42 < huebi> [anders]: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-src-1.5.17-DEV-Miguel-Edition.tar.bz2 09:42 < [anders]> SMP: not on debian which uses the new tar.. j replaces I for bz2 compression 09:42 < [anders]> huebi: :-) I might take a look at that.. 09:42 < SMP> [anders]: ah, yes 09:43 < huebi> [anders]: I can't see the error happens at your build. 09:43 < SMP> [anders]: building on Debian is not supported 09:43 < huebi> [anders]: can you exchange the tar binary? 09:44 < [anders]> hold on, I found one more place in the scripts where I needed to replace the flag 09:45 < [anders]> fell over on memtest tar archive now.. 09:45 < [anders]> aah, no memtest tar archive.. well, that is a bit of a bummer.. 09:46 < [anders]> Need to find that.. 09:46 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:47 < [anders]> the memtest stuff is not on the ISO image loopmounted.. 09:48 < huebi> [anders]: that can be there is also version 3.0 out. 09:50 < [anders]> ok, url to DL from? :) 09:51 < huebi> 2701925663 dos_boot_etc/memtest86-3.0.tar.gz https://www.memtest86.com/ 09:51 < [anders]> ah, so not at www.teresaudio.com anymore then? :) 09:51 < huebi> [anders]: can you now see why so many urls are broken? 09:54 < [anders]> huebi: yeah.. 09:55 < [anders]> the buildit.sh was still trying to build the 2.8a memtest as well. 09:56 < huebi> [anders]: just fixed.. 09:57 < [anders]> I hacked it as well, trying to test it now.. 09:57 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/subdists/install-disks/intel/ 10:00 < [anders]> huebi: I'll have to get the CVS and try that in a bit.. 10:03 < huebi> ok 10:07 < [anders]> riiight, set -x in buildit.sh to see what exactly is falling over.. 10:10 < [anders]> hmmm.. the line 'rename setup- demo-setup setup-*' seems to make it break.. 10:12 < huebi> [anders]: does your rename not work? 10:22 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530A8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:22 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530A8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:44 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:44 < holyolli> moin 10:45 < huebi> moin holyolli ;-)) 10:45 < holyolli> huhu huebi :)) 10:47 < huebi> holyolli: I just fix the last error in 1.5.17 for intel. Then it should build completely 10:47 < huebi> on ia32 10:47 < holyolli> huebi: nice! 10:48 < huebi> I have a big TODO list: 10:48 < huebi> add kde 3.0.2 10:49 < huebi> add OpenOffice (not nessesarily but very nice to have) 10:49 < huebi> create install disk for sparc64 10:50 < huebi> holyolli: and try to get your install-disks for alpha to get in 1.5 10:50 < huebi> get a bootable kernel for alpha. 10:50 < huebi> and for sparc64 10:52 < holyolli> huebi: is the cvs principially working? 10:52 < holyolli> then i would just update my alpha 10:52 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB7AFF5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 10:52 < huebi> jo, it is. not only principally 10:53 < huebi> yes, and XFree86 must work on Sparc64 10:53 < holyolli> which was the cvs rootdir? 10:54 < th> re & moin 10:54 < huebi> export CVSROOT=holyolli@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs; export CVS_RSH=ssh 10:54 < huebi> moin th ;-) 10:54 < holyolli> hi th 10:54 < th> huebi: what about changelog? 10:56 < huebi> th: I've checked sth in but there are no changes in the log ;( 10:56 < holyolli> hm. it seems if i have to co everything again =) 10:57 < huebi> holyolli: make a backup and try cvs uo -dP 10:57 < th> huebi: last change was 0232 better options for athlon 10:57 < huebi> th: mom 10:58 < huebi> th: I have just checked in: subdists/install-disks/intel/buildit.sh 10:59 < huebi> one minut waiting... 10:59 < huebi> +e 10:59 < th> there is no postcommit pending 10:59 < huebi> then it's 11:00 on world 10:59 < th> but i will add some more explicit pathes 10:59 < th> perhaps even /usr/bin is not in path with crontab 10:59 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-orig# cvs ci -m"fixed location for the pcmcia modules for copying" subdists/install-disks/intel/buildit.sh 10:59 < huebi> Checking in subdists/install-disks/intel/buildit.sh; 10:59 < huebi> /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/subdists/install-disks/intel/buildit.sh,v <-- buildit.shnew revision: 1.7; previous revision: 1.6 11:00 < huebi> done 11:00 < huebi> je, cron did nit work. 11:00 < huebi> where do you define the PATH for crond? 11:02 < th> i don't do that 11:02 < th> perhaps it's just cron itself 11:03 < th> no i use absolute paths for _everything_ 11:04 < huebi> ah ok. 11:04 < th> ATM there is no postcommit pending 11:04 < th> i change cron to */1 for better testing 11:05 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/subdists/install-disks/intel/ <- buildit.sh is 6 min old 11:05 < th> it's 11:05:40 11:05 < th> last cycle was 11:00:00 11:06 < huebi> Sat Jul 6 08:58:23 2002 UTC (7 minutes, 27 seconds ago) by huebi 11:07 < huebi> mom 11:09 < [anders]> huebi: it appears that way.. I'll try it manually and see what happens. 11:10 < huebi> Sat Jul 6 09:10:09 2002 UTC (24 seconds ago) by huebi scripts/Build-All 11:11 < holyolli> huebi: welches display ist das nochmal, was ich da nun von dir habe? 11:12 < huebi> holyolli: https://www.elektronikladen.de/lcd.html 11:14 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-191.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:14 < [anders]> huebi: it is the rename program that fails. 11:15 < [anders]> huebi: is there an alternative to rename? 11:15 < huebi> it's in the package util-linux: usr/bin/rename 11:17 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/rock-linux/tars/ia32-util-linux.tar.bz2 11:17 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-171.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:21 < th> am a wrong in crontab syntax? 11:21 < th> */1 should be every minute? 11:21 < th> i should use * 11:21 < huebi> yes 11:21 < huebi> * * * * * <- every minute 11:22 < th> but */1 SHOULD work too 11:22 < th> it doesn't do my cron :-(( 11:23 < th> moment please 11:25 < th> 11:28 < th> arg. 11:28 < th> script behaves strange when run via cron 11:35 < [anders]> huebi: what is the aim of rename? just to move files somewhere? 11:36 < huebi> I did not have a closer look on it. Can you use the new binary? 11:36 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/rock-linux/tars/ia32-util-linux.tar.bz2 11:37 < th> huebi: cvs up -d does not do anything when run from cron 11:38 < [anders]> huebi: I can extract the rename and temorarily replace it.. 11:39 < huebi> th: Do you have to export CVSROOT? 11:39 < th> no it's read from CVS/Root 11:39 < th> you don't need that once you did a co 11:42 < th> i need stderr 11:42 < th> how to stderr>>stdout? 11:42 < [anders]> huebi: replacing rename worked, it's building the rescue subdist now.. 11:43 < huebi> [anders]: great. ;-)) 11:43 < [anders]> I'll now have to look at modifying the tar package to use j instead of I for bzip2 compression.. :) 11:43 < th> 2&>1 ?? 11:43 < [anders]> and also look at the Install.bin as that one somehow uses tar as well.. 11:44 < rxr> re 11:44 < [anders]> re rxr 11:44 < th> i need bash-help! 11:44 < huebi> th: 2>&1 11:44 < th> huebi: no 11:44 < th> huebi: that doesn't seem to work 11:45 < huebi> crond in debug mode? 11:45 < th> i'm just in bash 11:45 < th> cd /tmp 11:45 < th> cvs -t up -d 11:45 < th> it puts some lines to stdout 11:45 < th> it puts some lines to stderr 11:45 < th> i want to >> /dev/null 11:45 < th> cvs -t up -d 2>&1 >> /dev/null still shows these lines 11:46 < huebi> cvs -t up -d 2>&1 > /dev/null ? 11:46 < th> i want to APPEND 11:46 < th> >> 11:46 < th> not > 11:47 < th> well i just do 2>>$log >>$log 11:48 < huebi> cvs -t up -d >> /dev/null 2>&1 11:48 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: the cootiless client") 11:50 < th> huebi: that is ok :) 11:54 < blindcod1r> hi everyone 11:54 < th> huebi: now i understand why u always said it doesn't work and i always said it does... a question of invokation 11:55 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 11:56 < th> huebi: and i say it again "it should work now" 11:56 < th> huebi: doing it every minute 11:57 < th> huebi: give it a try 11:57 < huebi> th: ;-) how do you invoce it now? 11:57 < th> huebi: cron is ok but it's environment is bad 12:02 < rxr> huebi: SMP: where are the ftp files (ISOs) on the rocklinuix.de server? 12:02 < huebi> rxr: ftp://download.rocklinux.de/ 12:03 < rxr> huebi: no - I mean on the server (I'm logged into via ssh ...) 12:03 < rxr> ene@jackson:~ > ssh rene@download.rocklinux.de 12:03 < rxr> ssh: connect to address 80.65.32.85 port 22: Connection refused 12:03 < rxr> ? 12:03 < huebi> rxr: /home/rockwww/download.rocklinux.de/htdocs/ 12:04 < rxr> Hm. How do I get the files onto the server ? 12:04 < rxr> huebi: ahh! Thanks 12:04 < rxr> I must have been blinded ... 12:05 < huebi> world.wronline.de <- for ssh. 12:05 < th> or cvs.rocklinux.de 12:05 < rxr> huebi: jups. This one worked 12:06 < huebi> rxr: and it works. 12:06 < huebi> rxr: also on port 443, hehe 12:06 < th> hehe 12:07 < snyke> re 12:07 < huebi> moin snyke 12:14 < rxr> SMP ? 12:14 < rxr> has someone some kind of root priv on the .de server ? *g* 12:15 < SMP> yup 12:15 < rxr> ah hi 12:15 < rxr> could you do: 12:15 < rxr> chown rene /home/rockwww/download.rocklinux.de/htdocs/dRock/stable/1.6.0/* 12:15 < rxr> ;-) 12:15 < SMP> oh. sure 12:15 < SMP> the files should be group drock anyway 12:16 < SMP> done. 12:17 < rxr> ok - thanks 12:19 < rxr> SMP do you consider it a rsync "bug", that it creates newly created files as .$filename-rsync-sth and renames them at the end of the sync? 12:19 < SMP> no. that's how it's supposed to work 12:20 < SMP> it's the only way to get atomic updates 12:20 < rxr> this way it has to retransmit all if the connections gets lost - because the filename doesn't match ... 12:20 < rxr> but for modified files you also have no atomic transactions ... 12:21 < SMP> pardon? 12:21 < [anders]> build completed successfully.. 12:21 < SMP> and you can always just rename the file to its orininal name and continue the rsync 12:21 < rxr> SMP: rsync does modify the content of the file on-the-fly (IIRC) 12:22 < SMP> that depends 12:22 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:22 < Ge0rG> hi 12:23 < SMP> of course, if you are transfering a whole file, it's much more intelligent to create a temp file first, then rename it. 12:23 < rxr> SMP: is there a option to force rsync to not create temp files? (So my resyncs work for new files) 12:24 < SMP> I don't know 12:24 < SMP> rename the temp files manually 12:24 < rxr> SMP: but I would like to have automatic mirroring ... 12:25 < huebi> rxr: wget has a mirror option 12:25 < rxr> --partial 12:26 -!- simon [~simon@p50875154.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:27 < rxr> -P The -P option is equivalent to --partial 12:27 < rxr> --progress. I found myself typing that combination 12:27 < rxr> quite often so I created an option to make it eas- 12:27 < rxr> ier. 12:27 < rxr> *lol* 12:27 < SMP> alias Rsync='rsync -avPe ssh' 12:27 < rxr> nice if you are the maintainer of a project - you can create your custom shortcuts ;-) 12:28 < SMP> that's what I use 12:31 < rxr> CD-1 resynced 12:32 < SMP> 12:31pm up 51 days, 18:55, 9 users, load average: 5.78, 4.89, 2.98 12:32 < SMP> hmmm ;-) 12:32 < rxr> ;-) 12:33 < huebi> root-disk.img has now wget back in it. 12:34 < SMP> hmm, interactive performance should be way better for Linux 12:34 < SMP> let's install FreeBSD on world ;-> 12:35 < rxr> SMP: it will be in 2.6 ;-) 12:36 < huebi> FreeBSD 2.6? I think they are a little bit further now.. 12:36 < [anders]> ok, starting complete rebuild now.. 12:36 < SMP> bleh ;> 12:36 < huebi> *g* 12:37 < [anders]> where does the Install.bin get generated from? 12:37 < huebi> install-disks 12:38 < SMP> base-config/install-disks/install_bin.c 12:38 < [anders]> cheers.. time to hack the code a little /me thinks.. ;-) 12:38 < rxr> world:/home/rockwww/download.rocklinux.de/htdocs/dRock/stable/1.6.0$ md5sum --check drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-1.iso.md5 12:38 < [anders]> already modified the tar patch.. :-) 12:38 < rxr> drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-1.iso: OK 12:38 < rxr> world:/home/rockwww/download.rocklinux.de/htdocs/dRock/stable/1.6.0$ md5sum --check drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-2.iso.md5 12:39 < rxr> drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-2.iso: OK 12:39 < rxr> world:/home/rockwww/download.rocklinux.de/htdocs/dRock/stable/1.6.0$ md5sum --check drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso.md5 12:39 < rxr> drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso: OK 12:39 < SMP> please note that there is a compile-time option to chose the animation during package install from three different ones 12:39 < SMP> Clifford told me that hacking the animations took him longer than the rest of install_bin.c ;-) 12:40 < SMP> rxr: great. finally.. 12:40 < SMP> rxr: don't forget to chmod o+rx dRock 12:41 < [anders]> Aaahh.. Install.bin does not use the -I/-j option directly. Which is good news.. So all should just work. :) 12:41 < rxr> SMP: jups - done 12:57 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CB4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:58 < bluefire> Moin 12:58 < snyke> hi 13:06 < huebi> moin bluefire 13:07 < Ge0rG> ok, mplayer works on the igafb.. in ascii art mode... 13:08 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530A8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:11 -!- Freak [freak@p508389CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:16 -!- WKaibigan2 [~Aloicious@ACB57669.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 13:16 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB7AFF5.ipt.aol.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:16 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081370B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < thalerim> hi 13:17 < huebi> Moep thalerim ;-) 13:17 < thalerim> meep huebi :-P 13:19 < thalerim> i think it's time for a new topic, *hum* *hum* let me consider 13:20 < thalerim> what about https://windinux.de/ ? :-) 13:26 < huebi> thalerim: too lame. ;-) 13:26 < thalerim> heh, passt :P 13:27 < huebi> Abstu"rze werden IMMER nur von schlecht gemachten Programmen erzeugt, nie vom OS!!! *ROTFL* 13:28 < thalerim> huebi: das ist ne fake seite ;) - lass mal ein sed -e 's,Windows,Linux' -e 's,Linux,Windows,' drüber laufen ;) 13:29 < thalerim> https://windinux.de/grafix/logo_lb1.gif <--- !!! 13:29 < thalerim> argh 13:30 < thalerim> https://windinux.de/linbill.htm <-- 13:33 < huebi> https://windinux.de/grafix/topcat1.jpg <- meine cluster haben immer irgendwie unaufgeraeumter ausgesehen... 13:34 < thalerim> hehe 13:34 < thalerim> https://windinux.de/grafix/kabel.jpg <-- 13:34 < thalerim> das bild find ich sau geil ;) 13:34 < huebi> (Ich koennte wetten das der garnicht funktioniert) 13:35 < thalerim> "Do not touch any of these wires" *gg* 13:35 < huebi> hehe 13:36 < Ge0rG> hm... warum hängt man 8 rechner mit einem switch (hub?) ohne uplink zusammen? 13:38 < thalerim> ich weiß noch ne ma, wasn uplink is ... 13:39 < huebi> Ge0rG: High Secure System 13:39 < thalerim> ich wollte damit implzieren, dass mich jemand aufklärt :-D 13:40 < huebi> thalerim: Ein Anschluss eines Hubs an den Rest der Welt. 13:40 < Ge0rG> thalerim: allgemein eine netzwerkverbindung von einem kleinen zu einem grösseren netz ;) 13:40 < thalerim> aha, ok 13:40 < thalerim> nimm ich jetzt mal so hin 13:41 < huebi> thalerim: Also da sind so die Blumen... und dann kommen da die Bienen... und fuer den Rest must Du, ehh, ehh.... deine MAMA fragen. (Phuhh..) 13:42 < thalerim> lol, rsch :-P 13:42 < thalerim> +a 13:43 < thalerim> so ich bin dann mal lesen 13:43 < huebi> cu thalerim 13:43 < thalerim> bis später 13:53 < freed> hi all 13:53 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD9590EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:53 < uninvited> hello every1 13:56 < huebi> moin uninvited ;-) 14:01 < th> huebi: it seems to work now. 14:02 < huebi> th: yes great ;-) *freu* 14:03 < huebi> th: kannst du es noch erst am 2002-03-01 00:00h anfangen lassen. das halbiert die groesse. 14:03 < th> huebi: jo. muss ich mir wohl mal das perl ding ansehen 14:04 < huebi> https://www.red-bean.com/cvs2cl/ 14:06 < th> --help gibts auch 14:06 < th> da steht aber sowas nicht 14:06 < th> hoechstens als options ans cvs log 14:07 < huebi> th: genau, so geht das. 14:08 < huebi> hmm, nicht mehr in der bashhistory drin.. 14:11 < th> got it 14:12 < huebi> fonts.c:64: #error No fonts configured. <- 3-linux.err on sparc. Just a change in the .config 14:16 < th> huebi: done 14:18 < [anders]> riiight... now all references in base-config to tar -I been replaced with tar -j ... :) 14:19 < [anders]> next thing to go through is the ext-config... but as I am not building ext's, that can wait.. :) 14:20 < [anders]> in any case, housework awaits me.. talk later. 14:28 -!- vob [~vob@pD9E8BD92.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[ NoNameScript 3.52 @ www.nnscript.de ]") 14:45 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CB4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:45 < esden> hi all 14:45 < rxr> hi esden 14:45 * -> esden needs mike !!! 14:45 < esden> I need more depeche mode !!! 14:45 < esden> hi rxr ;-) 14:47 < uninvited> hiya esden... 14:47 < uninvited> ...I FEEL YOU... *dum dum* 14:50 < esden> hi uninvited 14:51 < esden> uninvited: do you have depeche mode laying around somewhere ? 14:52 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:52 < holyolli> re 14:59 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 15:04 < holyolli> huebi? 15:13 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CB4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:14 < uninvited> esden> about 2 or 3 cds with DM music on em .. 15:16 < esden> uninvited: do you have it in mp3 form ? 15:17 < uninvited> esden> no mp3s, just girlfriend`s cds 15:20 < rxr> new 1.7 snap 15:26 < rxr> cu 15:32 < esden> uninvited: not good :-( 15:33 < esden> uninvited: should be ripped (this line should be censored by microsoft because of unallowed menthal content but the user is not using microsoft software so it could not be done sorry) 15:34 < uninvited> ripping sux... 15:34 < uninvited> dont have another machine to 24/7 rip cds... 15:38 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081370B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 16:07 < th> gibts memcpy() auch bitweise? 16:09 < th> timeout 16:17 < huebi> re 16:21 < [anders]> huebi: hi there.. 16:21 < [anders]> build is running, tar is now using -j instead of -I (everywhere)... :) 16:21 < huebi> DID you solve it by hand? 16:22 < [anders]> it's currently in stage 3 on cfree86 16:22 < [anders]> huebi: Yeah, just went through and altered the package .conf's and replaced I with j in the tar commands.. 16:23 < [anders]> s;cfree86;xfree86; 16:23 < [anders]> I'll mod the ext packages .conf's later.. 16:29 < [anders]> ah well, time to go shopping /me thinks... 16:29 < [anders]> back later folks 16:30 < huebi> --use-compress-program=bzip2 16:30 < huebi> [anders]: Stop 16:30 < [anders]> huebi: huh? 16:30 < huebi> [anders]: --use-compress-program=bzip2 would be a better solution for your problem 16:31 < huebi> [anders]: there are y,I and now j for the use of bzip2 16:31 < [anders]> huebi: well, yes.. if all extensions were written with that, then people could select y, I or j in the Config program for their bzip compression flag.. 16:32 < [anders]> The reason for me picking 'j' is that Debian uses it.. And AFAIK RedHat and Mandrake do as well.. 16:32 < huebi> [anders]: --use-compress-program=bzip2 works with allmost all sorts of tar. No selection for y.I.j needed 16:32 < [anders]> huebi: true, apart from when you want to use tar and not give long options.. 16:32 < [anders]> :) 16:33 < huebi> and the easiest way to use it. but longest to write. 16:34 < [anders]> yeah.. I suppose I could sit down and mod all instances and occurances of tar -I to use the long option instead and then submit a patch..? 16:35 < huebi> [anders]: Can you use sed for that? 16:35 < [anders]> huebi: or perl.. 16:35 < huebi> yes... 16:36 < [anders]> probably perl actually.. 16:36 < [anders]> now though, going shopping! :) 16:37 < huebi> [anders]: have fun ;-)) 16:37 < huebi> cu later [anders] 16:38 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5178.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 < owl> hi 16:38 < huebi> hi owl 16:39 < huebi> ll 16:39 < huebi> oops 16:49 < huebi> == 14:08:08 =[3]=> Building base package xfree86 [4.2.0 1.5.17]. 16:49 < huebi> == 16:47:57 07/06/02 =[3]=> Finished building package xfree86. 16:50 * huebi still dreaming of an 3GHz UltraSparcIII 17:03 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 < netcrow> hi 17:06 < owl> hi netcrow 17:06 < netcrow> hi owl 17:07 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 17:19 < esden> hi owl 17:20 < uninvited> hi netti-konfetti 17:24 < esden> uninvited: der ist schon nicht hier aber ich werde es ihm ueermitteln ;-) 17:24 < esden> uninvited: gruss zuerueck 17:27 < uninvited> oh quit 17:28 < huebi> esden: find . -name "*[D,d]epeche*mp3" ? 17:32 < huebi> find . -name "*[D,d]epeche*mp3" 2>/dev/null |wc -l = 20 17:34 < blindcoder> esden: you come to bitz? 17:35 < huebi> https://www.tux.org/~mayer/linux/results2.1.html 17:35 < huebi> Sun SPARCstation IPX MB86903 40 MHz ? ? egcs 2.91.66 19990314 ? 0.054 0.096 0.123 17:36 < huebi> AthlonMP1800+ oc 1.6GHz Dual 256 KB Linux-2.4.17 gcc 3.0.3 glibc 2.1.3 11.9761 0.337 18.881 17:39 < huebi> CPU/Machine L2 Cache OS Compiler C-lib MEM INT FP 18:02 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11C9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < tsa> taaag. 18:02 < huebi> moin tsa 18:03 < tsa> hi huebi 18:06 < esden> blindcoder: /me is @ bitz 18:27 < tsa> huebi: ich habe im 1.5er tree auf cvs.rocklinux.de nessus.ext uebernommen - da stand noch G.Bevin drin, und im 1.7er tree bin ich sowieso schon [M] fuer das package.. 18:27 < tsa> update auch gleich gemacht.. 18:28 < huebi> tsa: jo, klasse. 18:28 < tsa> (das package war uralt..) 18:28 < huebi> tsa: Das glaube ich dir aufs wort ;-) 18:28 < tsa> hehe ;) 18:29 < tsa> holyolli: wolltest du nicht auch mal irgendwann ein paar packages uebernehmen? 18:31 < th> huebi: have a look at Documentation/HOWTO-Contribute-To-rock-1.5.txt after next update 18:32 < huebi> th: jo, I'll do it. 18:47 < th> SMP: ack? 18:49 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: more nutritious than a six-pack.") 18:49 < huebi> th: always update (cvs up -dP) before changing anything. That should work now. In install-disks and sysfiles were emtp directories which are now created explicitly. 18:52 < huebi> == 18:16:14 =[3]=> Building base package qt [3.0.4 1.5.17]. 18:53 < huebi> I expect about 15h for that on the Ultra 30 19:02 -!- simon- [~simon@p50875152.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 -!- simon [~simon@p50875154.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:16 -!- simon- is now known as simon 19:17 < th> so. auf auf und davon. 19:18 < th> bis montag leute... 19:18 < tsa> cu th 19:20 < huebi> cu th 19:22 < uninvited> ciao 19:29 < uninvited> ciaohave to go, farewell all ! 19:29 -!- uninvited [~uninvited@pD9590EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 20:33 -!- Freak [freak@p508389CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I take this land for my bunghole!") 20:49 -!- WKaibigan2 [~Aloicious@ACB57669.ipt.aol.com] has quit () 20:50 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:51 < tsa> cu 20:51 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11C9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:54 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9544143.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:02 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E504F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 21:22 < Mike1> Hi All 21:22 < huebi> hi Mike1 21:23 < Mike1> huebi: how did you go with the sparc build? 21:23 -!- Freak [freak@p508389CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < huebi> root@rock:~ # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err 21:24 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err 21:24 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux.err 21:24 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-mtools.err 21:24 < Mike1> huebi: mmm 21:24 < huebi> Mike1: linux is no big problem, only fonts are missing. 21:25 < huebi> it's in qt since 3h and will stay ther for another 12h. 21:26 < Mike1> i had trouble on stage 3 with gdm but it was just a defectuos tarball 21:26 < ge0rg> maybe trolltech wants to force everyone to use the binary distro? ;) 21:26 < huebi> ge0rg: no, th had a look at it and now all has to be done 4 times to build all libs. 21:27 < ge0rg> oh. 21:27 < ge0rg> root@amy:/krups/usr/src/xc# grep -ri IGA.*1682 . 21:27 < ge0rg> ./programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86PciInfo.h: {0x1682, "IGA-1682",0 }, 21:27 < ge0rg> root@amy:/krups/usr/src/xc# 21:27 < huebi> 94min on 2xXP1800+ 21:27 < ge0rg> hm... pretty depressing - no real X support as it seems 21:27 < Mike1> huebi: about ur build well i think for now alsa is not really the priority (we can live without it for now) , linux well is they are only fonts missing, as you said is not really a bid deal 21:27 < Mike1> huebi: what about mtools? 21:28 < huebi> ge0rg: https://www.ultralinux.org/js/XF86_FBDev.bz2 21:28 < ge0rg> huebi: I've got the fbdev x server.. but I don't like its attitude wrt. devfs. 21:38 < Mike1> huebi: is anyone maintaining the router subdistro in the 1.5 tree? 21:39 < huebi> Mike1: not as I know. Do you want to do it? If so feel free to do it. 21:39 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:40 < Mike1> huebi: well i am not the great developer but i would like to work on it 21:40 < Mike1> and see if i can do something usefull 21:40 < Mike1> :) 21:41 < Mike1> so is that ok with you that i work on it? 21:41 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, absolutly ok. ;-)) 21:43 < Mike1> Just hope you dont mind me bothering you oftenly 21:44 < huebi> ;-)) 21:47 < Mike1> huebi: did you ever got to see ripclaws smallsys? 21:48 < huebi> smallsys? What do you mean? 21:48 < Mike1> he made sort of a tine rock linux 21:49 < Mike1> sources are around 27mb 21:50 < Mike1> i wanna have a look at i might get some usefull stuff for the router since there is much work to do on it :) 21:52 < [anders]> excellent.. in stage 5 now already.. started build at 13:45 BST... 21:53 < Mike1> [anders]: cool :) 21:57 < huebi> [anders]: 7h for that is good. Do you use make -j>1? 22:02 < Freak> how to find out if my notebook has a 16- or 32bit-cardbus? 22:03 < huebi> Freak: put in a 32-Bit card. 22:03 < huebi> if you can push it in you have 32-Bit. 22:04 < ge0rg> is there any "soft" way, like looking for a pci/isa pcmcia controller? 22:04 < ge0rg> Freak: do you have a "CardBus bridge" in lspci? 22:05 < [anders]> Mike1: howdy there.. :) 22:05 < Freak> ge0rg: no *n?x on that notebook, I got it yesterday, it's a 486 22:05 < [anders]> huebi: no, using the basic settings.. 22:05 < ge0rg> Freak: oh, ok 22:05 < Freak> huebi: I have no card here 22:05 < huebi> [anders]: You'll gain some small speed also on 1 CPU with make -j4 or -j8 22:06 < Freak> ahhh good I didn 22:06 < Freak> 't get it 22:06 < [anders]> huebi: make -j2 on a UP box should be well sufficent.. 22:06 < Mike1> [anders]: pretty good and there? 22:06 < Freak> because I bidded on ebay .. for a 32bit-card.. 22:06 < [anders]> Mike1: it's nice.. I'm preparing dinner.. 22:06 < Freak> and now I saw.. hey.. wait a second.. maybe it's 16bit 22:06 < [anders]> (or rather late snack.. :) 22:06 < Freak> (: 22:07 < Mike1> [anders]: cool, what are we eating tonight? *g 22:07 < huebi> [anders]: Some more open processes can use more of the I/O bandwidth. 22:07 < huebi> on my dual system I got most speed with 16 or 32 for a kernel compile. 22:08 < [anders]> Mike1: garlic bread and some potato wedges.. :) 22:08 < Mike1> yummy 22:08 < huebi> s/most/highest/ 22:08 < [anders]> huebi: really? I'll have to test that theory on the Quad Xeon 1.6GHz with 2GB RAM we have at work.. :) 22:10 < Freak> huebi: a guy just told me that 32bit-cards were type III and 16bit were type II (smaller than the other one) 22:10 < Freak> so I have either 2 type II-slots or one type III-slot 22:10 < [anders]> Freak: CardBus is 32bit and PC Card is 16bit... 22:11 < Freak> so it doesn't have anything to do with the size 22:11 < ge0rg> Freak: don't listen to that guy anymore ;) 22:11 < ge0rg> size doesn't matter[tm] 22:11 < [anders]> One Type III takes up the same space as two Type II 22:11 < Freak> ahhhh everyone tells me something different 22:11 < Freak> ge0rg: hehe 22:11 < Freak> [anders]: yes, my point 22:12 < [anders]> Freak: It is usually true that a Type III is 32bit, but I have a 3Com eth card that is Type II but Type III formfactor.. :) 22:12 < ge0rg> Freak: another way to find the solution would be googleing for the notebook model number 22:12 * ge0rg has one type2 cardbus and one type2 16bit card 22:13 < [anders]> often, laptops have a combined Type III which is also two Type II.. 22:13 < [anders]> As my Dell Inspiron 5000e (if I am not mistaken) 22:13 < Freak> ge0rg: did that, nothing found 22:13 < ge0rg> but most new notebooks offer only one type2/3 slot, which is sad 22:14 < Freak> ok this notebook has 2 type II-slots or one type III-slot, combined. 22:14 < ge0rg> Freak: then its time to boot a rescue linux and to search for pci components ;) 22:14 < Freak> hmmm 22:14 < Freak> on a disk? 22:14 < Freak> because it doesnt have a cdrom 22:15 < Freak> anyway.. I doubt a 486-notebook has cardbus 22:15 < huebi> kACK!! 22:15 < [anders]> HDD's in a PCMCIA card is usually 32bit and Type III.. (No guarantee for either though.. ;-) 22:15 < Freak> huebi? 22:15 < huebi> Freak: ACK!! 22:15 < Freak> ah ;) 22:15 < huebi> Freak: only 16-Bit! 22:15 < Freak> ahhhh 22:15 < Freak> verrry good 22:15 < [anders]> CardBus didn't turn up until P-II.. Didn't it? 22:15 < ge0rg> I've got a 486 desktop with pci here... 22:15 < Freak> ge0rg, [anders]: do you confirm? 22:16 < ge0rg> Freak: don't know. 22:16 < [anders]> Freak: I agree with huebi.. 22:16 < Freak> great 22:16 < [anders]> if it is a 486, it will be plain 16bit.. 22:16 < Freak> so 3 guys agreeing, one not knowing ;) 22:16 < Freak> that's enough :) 22:16 < Freak> so I'll go buy a 16bit card 22:16 < huebi> root@fels:/rock-linux# cat arch-conf/ia32/gcc-options-k7 22:16 < huebi> "-O3", "-march=i686", "-fforce-addr", "-mcpu=i686" 22:16 < huebi> I worked! 22:17 < huebi> except glibc 22:17 < ge0rg> Freak: anyway, cardbus is backward compatible - so any 16bit card should work 22:17 < huebi> at least 10% faster binaries now! 22:18 < Freak> ge0rg: ok so if I once have a newer notebook I can go on using the card.. good to know 22:19 < ge0rg> although in modern systems 16bit pcmcia suffers performance... with a 10mbit card under full load I was hardly able to work with my cel366 notebook 22:19 < huebi> ge0rg: Normal. 22:20 < huebi> you can compare it with the performance of isa. 22:20 < hackbard> see ya in 3 weeks .. have fun! 22:20 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@faim.Physik.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has quit ("on vacation") 22:20 < ge0rg> bye hackbard 23:03 < huebi> has somebody some experience with kernel.conf.cpp 23:03 < huebi> ? 23:03 < [anders]> huebi: nope.. not got that far yet.. :) 23:04 < [anders]> arrrf! some tosser at PacBell ADSL is poking my port 25... 23:05 < [anders]> probably someone looking for a box to relay through.. 23:05 < huebi> [anders]: send him some mail ;> 23:07 < [anders]> huebi: do you know how tempting that is? :-D 23:07 < [anders]> Even better would be to portscan him and rootkit his box.. ;-) 23:08 < huebi> ACK 23:08 < huebi> It's quite common to be scanned... 23:21 < [anders]> huebi: ACK.. which is why the only things open on this box is SSH... 23:22 < [anders]> in any case, still building in stage 5. will let you know tomorrow how long it took to build the lot on this box. (base+opt only) 23:22 < huebi> (reminds me to reinstall rocklinux.dyndns.org...) 23:22 < [anders]> night night all 23:22 < huebi> n8 [anders] 23:27 < Mike1> n8 [anders] 23:27 < Mike1> huebi: still awake 23:28 < huebi> Mike1: jo ;-) 23:28 < huebi> 23:27 < Mike1> huebi: still awake 23:28 < Mike1> gut 23:28 < Mike1> lol 23:28 < Mike1> Are you working on adding reiserfs support to 1.5.17? 23:28 < Mike1> i am really interested on it 23:31 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, it's on my list after KDE. 23:31 < huebi> I now work on KDE. 23:31 < Mike1> anything i can help you with? 23:32 < huebi> but reiserfs should just be a kernel option or at the most an aditional boot disk. 23:32 < huebi> +d 23:32 < Mike1> also we need mkreiserfs on root disk 23:33 * Mike1 hates ext2 fsck's 23:33 < huebi> so an additional boot disk image on the cd seems to be the better choice. 23:33 < Mike1> huebi: yes 23:34 < ge0rg> Mike1: tune2fs -j ;) 23:34 < Mike1> ext3fs would be cool too but i would settle with reiserfs :) 23:34 < Mike1> ge0rg: hehe yeah 23:36 < Mike1> Master huebi i now go home, i will talk to you on monday 23:36 < Mike1> i'll try to build on sparc64 tonight 23:37 < Mike1> see you all guys 23:37 < huebi> cu Mike1 23:37 < Mike1> und have a nice a weekend :) 23:37 < Mike1> -a 23:37 < huebi> you, too 23:37 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:39 -!- d3mian [~d3mian@200.9.59.50] has joined #rocklinux 23:40 < d3mian> hi guys 23:42 < huebi> hi d3mian 23:56 -!- d3mian [~d3mian@200.9.59.50] has quit () 23:57 < ge0rg> hm.. is rock linking from /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/linux/include/linux? 23:58 < huebi> ge0rg: yes, 23:59 < ge0rg> this breaks 2.5.19+ compiles... 23:59 < huebi> make symlinks in /usr/src/linux makes this. --- Log closed Sun Jul 07 00:00:14 2002