--- Log opened Sat Jul 20 00:00:30 2002
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00:04 < zUnE> good evening
00:05 < owl> hi zUnE
00:06 < zUnE> all well?
00:06 < zUnE> whuz happenin' ?
00:11 < esden> hi zUnE 
00:11 < esden> re hi all
00:11 < owl> re esden
00:11 < tsa> hi zUnE
00:12 < tsa> re esden
00:25 < fake> re.
00:25 < owl> re fake.
00:28 < tsa> re fake
00:29 * fake has beer
00:29 * fake has net connection
00:29 * fake has w33t
00:30 * fake is happy ;-)
00:30 < zUnE> hmm..
00:30 < chrisime> blah
00:30 * tsa being tired.
00:30 < esden> fake: beneid
00:30 < tsa> beer has been drunk
00:30 < fake> esden: *eh eh eh*
00:30 < chrisime> dann rauch dich mal ordentlich ein
00:30 < tsa> bandwidth filled up.
00:30 < tsa> no weed.
00:30 < tsa> time to go to bed.
00:30 < fake> chrisime: not yet. still have s/th to work on.
00:30 < tsa> cu all.
00:30 < zUnE> ich haben drinken ja?
00:30 < fake> tsa: sleep well!
00:30 < chrisime> ah 
00:30 < chrisime> geht viel besser
00:31 < owl> cu tsa
00:31 < tsa> cu fake
00:31 < tsa> cu owl
00:31 < tsa> n8
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00:31 < zUnE> my german is excellent, right?  :)
00:31 < fake> chrisime: i prefer to have a cool beer while working, and a blunt if i succeded ;-)
00:31 < chrisime> hm
00:31 < fake> (beer replaceable by coffee, depending on success rate ;)
00:33 < zUnE> success rate of what?
00:33 < chrisime> ich brauch n bier
00:33 < chrisime> is ka schlechte idee
00:33 < fake> zUnE: of the work ;)
00:34 < zUnE> so basically you drink at work?
00:34 < zUnE> any chance of an opening for me there?
00:34 < zUnE> :)
00:38 < fake> zUnE: eh?
00:38 < fake> zUnE: only at privat work.
00:39 * -> esden needs something that makes dumb
00:39 < fake> esden: Java.
00:39 < owl> esden: sedariston
00:40 < fake> vomex retard b *DG*
00:40 < zUnE> yeh, i was trying to be funny.  obviously not  ;)
00:41 < fake> zUnE: uh, i'm sure that was funny, but my english skillz lost me at that...
00:41 < zUnE> im sure its not, no joke is funny if noone gets it.  im not sure i do it myself..
00:41 < zUnE> but hey..  00:48 friday night..
00:42 < esden> fake urgh i have to take a look at it ... yes >_<
00:44 < fake> zUnE: where are you from?
00:44 < zUnE> northern part of sweden
00:44 < zUnE> you?
00:49 < fake> zUnE: kewl! i'm from germany. i was just curious - you don't speak german but are in the same time zone ;)
00:51 < fake> Yes!
00:51 < fake> Finally OpenLDAP works!
00:51 < zUnE> Close it then
00:51 < zUnE> :)
00:52 < fake> zUnE: hey, i got that one ;-)
00:54 < zUnE> gotta go get a night drink
00:55 < fake> cya, zUnE! sleep well.
00:55 < fake> (afterwards)
00:55 < zUnE> cola or vodka or both..  tough desicion
00:55 < fake> why decide when you can have both? *g*
00:55 < zUnE> both it is
00:56 < fake> ;)
00:57 < zUnE> skål för helvete!
01:00 < zUnE> btw, how far have rock 1.7 tree travelled?  does it compile. ?
01:06 < fake> zUnE: mostly
01:06 < fake> at least base ;-)
01:07 < zUnE> can it make iso to ?
01:07 < fake> nope
01:08 < fake> not yet.
01:08 < zUnE> cp -R . /myfavooplaceofall  it  is then.  or summtin
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01:15 * owl needs more caffeine
01:17 < zUnE> coffee is a good idea
01:17 < owl> yeah. or guaranan. or coffeinum.... or just - some bottles of jolt cola
01:18 < zUnE> never tried jolt cola
01:18 < zUnE> good?
01:18 < owl> you should do. it's great. 
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01:18 < owl> yeah. it contains much caffeine... (more caffein compared to _normal_ coke)
01:19 < zUnE> i dont drink much coke,  just gets me more thirsty
01:19 < owl> ;) then take guarana or so...
01:19 < zUnE> but that is probably the idea.. to sell more of it i guess
01:20 < owl> yeah. maybe.
01:20 < zUnE> what is guarana then?
01:20 < owl> natural caffeine or something like that
01:20 < zUnE> cant remember seeing that in any local store here, not that i looked much for it
01:20 < fake> guarana is like caffeine, but mor natural, like cocaine
01:21 < owl> *gggg*
01:21 < zUnE> heh
01:21 < owl> sw33t.
01:21 < fake> (or better, like the leaves of the coca tree)
01:21 < fake> s,tree,plant,
01:21 < zUnE> to smoke?
01:21 < fake> nack
01:21 < fake> it's, for example, in some cokes.
01:21 < fake> or energy drinks
01:22 < zUnE> i.c
01:22 < owl> or in pills, normally... 
01:22 < zUnE> i avoid pills as much as possible
01:23 < owl> hmm... that's your business... ;P i prefer pills... no coke, but pills.
01:25 < zUnE> i dont run any business
01:26 < owl> did you try to be funny or ... ? don't know... :-/ 
01:26 < zUnE> sort of
01:26 < zUnE> ;)
01:27 < owl> uf... i guess i should completly destroy my brain and go to bed. but: no time :-/
01:27 < zUnE> gee.. i made a cup of coffee and had a smoke too .  where do i put the cigarette?  yes of course in my fresh coffee cup
01:27 < zUnE> better get a new one..
01:27 < owl> *ggg* 
01:30 < fake> *LOL* 
01:31 < fake> zUnE: "I don't run any business" ... pills... *rofl*
01:31 < owl> hm? why?
01:31 < owl> fake? should i understand, what you mean? ;P
01:32 < fake> owl: he was talking about the physical constitution of people running their own firm
01:32 < owl> yeah. i got it
01:42 * fake is off
01:43 < fake> the other guests are leaving, and i don't want to be a burden
01:43 < zUnE> you at a party?
01:44 < fake> j0.
01:45 < zUnE> what kinda party was it?  no dancing drinking mingling hångel..  or such?
01:47 < fake> err... the latter two adjectives are unclear, but the first 2: no, yes ;)
01:48 < zUnE> uhmm.  hångel  =  boy + girl + sofa + arms around each other
01:48 < fake> ah. no. ;-)
01:48 < fake> *shivers*
01:48 < fake> avg. age: 40. me: 20.
01:48 < zUnE> and?
01:48 < zUnE> :)
01:48 < fake> but good music ;-)
01:48 < zUnE> cant be fuzzy
01:49 < esden> n8
01:49 < fake> zUnE: i don't know any other people around here, and they are quite nice
01:49 < zUnE> had you said 55+  i would have been hesitant
01:49 < fake> n8 esden
01:49 < owl> *ggg* and how many dogs, children and wifes were there? :P
01:49 < fake> owl: 3 cats.
01:49 < owl> n8 esden. have fun :P and luck  ;)
01:49 * fake is off now, too.
01:49 < fake> cya!
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01:49 < zUnE> good night then
01:49 < owl> bye fake. cu tomorrow
01:49 < fake> *wink*
02:10 < chrisime> winkewinke ;P
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08:09 < g0at> Hello.
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09:25 < [anders]> moin
10:33 < blindcoder> morning everyone
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12:03 < netcrow> hi
12:03 < blindcoder> hi net
12:05 < [anders]> moin
12:05 * [anders] is at work, having a wooonderful time.. </sarcasm>
12:06 < blindcoder> bah, work on weekend sucks big time
12:06 < [anders]> at least I am getting paid for it.. which means it isn't tooo bad..
12:07 < [anders]> I still would have preferred not to come in today..
12:07 < blindcoder> who would >_<
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12:12 < [anders]> moin Ge0rG 
12:12 < Ge0rG> hi
12:12 * [anders] suppose he should carry on trying to make extentions build on 1.5.17 or simply remove them.. Can't be asked to try and figure out why some of them doesn't work..
12:13 < [anders]> If I can't fix the extention in about 20 minutes and I do not see me have a need for it --> rm -rf
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12:37 < blindcoder> hmm.... is there ANY package in 1.7 that does not have a dependency?
12:37 < [anders]> blindcoder: 00-dirtree ?
12:38 < blindcoder> hmm... yeah I can use that... thanks
12:38 < blindcoder> well...
12:38 < blindcoder> [DEP] bash fileutils grep sed sysfiles textutils
12:38 < [anders]> heh.. 
12:39 < blindcoder> hmm... doesn't matter, I'll leave DEPs for later then
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12:41 < [anders]> humma.. if the files that show you the dependencies are called something .conf perhaps the following could work? find </path> -name "*.conf" | xargs -i awk '/^[DEP]/ {if ($0 == $1) print <$filename>}' {}
12:42 < [anders]> dunno how to pass the filename in to awk in a var.. but I know it can be done.. you could probably write this entirely in perl and get it done..
12:43 < blindcoder> hmm... worth a try... I'll have a look at it, thanks
12:45 < rxr> re
12:46 < blindcoder> hi rxr
12:46 < [anders]> moin rxr
12:53 < rxr> is the linux* configuration issue already fixed in 1.5? Otherwise I would fix this in the next hours. 
13:03 < [anders]> rxr: I do not know. I know that it builds for me in 1.5.17
13:03 < [anders]> I have not yet had the opportunity to install 1.5.17 anywhere.. I will do so when I get time to setup VMware..
13:04 < rxr> [anders]: ok - I have a look
13:11 * [anders] is slightly pre-occupied with work at the moment.. Trying to get a build out as well as reviewing defects and testing a fix for an obscure bug..
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14:30 < rxr> re
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15:04 < fake> moin
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15:21 * anders is compiling the pre-reqs for metacity...
15:38 < rxr> s.o. here ?
15:38 < Ge0rG> nope ;)
15:38 < fake> noe
15:40 < blindcoder> not really
15:41 < fake> [anders]: i'm at work too - and i don't get paid :P
15:42 * blindcoder is at home... not getting paid also :P
15:43 < fake> b4k4
15:43 < blindcoder> h41
15:46 < rxr> ah - Hi all!
15:47 < anders> the dependencies on metacity is rather interesting.. :)
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15:48 * anders is trying to untangle them now and is currently in the process of building dependancy package number 7 out of 8 (so far..)
15:48 < blindcoder> hylafax??
15:57 < rxr> blindcoder: the hylafax isseu is solved. And whit Cliff's next reference build the .cache files will reflect this.
15:58 < fake> blindcoder: r u now hacking at 1.7?
15:58 < blindcoder> ah, isee
15:58 < blindcoder> fake: well, sooner or later I have to have a look at it, don't I?
15:58 < fake> blindcoder: sw33t!
15:58 < blindcoder> and... well... I'm doing a little bit I talked about with esden...
15:59 < fake> what is that? 
16:01 < blindcoder> I'll tell you when it's ready
16:01 < blindcoder> or else you'd declare be sick
16:02 < fake> blindcoder: as you might have noticed, i already declared all of us sick.
16:02 < fake> in fact, it was a prerequisite of getting to know you ;-)
16:02 < blindcoder> fake: yes, I know. But I prefer not bein declared even more sick right now. I have a earache, you know :)
16:03 < fake> i c.
16:03 < fake> well then, good luck ;-)
16:03 < blindcoder> and I need a bigger terminal... the latest line of code had like 200 characters
16:03 < blindcoder> thanks :)
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16:03 < fake> blindcoder: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/CodingStyle !!
16:04 < blindcoder> fake I know, I've already printed and burn^W^W^W read that
16:05 < fake> blindcoder: now that you have your printer you got a printmaniac, eh? ;)
16:05 < blindcoder> hehe
16:05 < blindcoder> seventy-something characters a line and 3 indents max
16:05 < blindcoder> but try to do that with PHP >-<
16:05 < blindcoder> >_<
16:05 < fake> well... it is possible, and worth it.
16:05 < blindcoder> and stringhandling and errormessagesprinting
16:05 < fake> (in terms of readability)
16:06 < blindcoder> read-abil... what the hell are you talking about? *g*
16:06 < fake> blindcoder: you can insert linebreaks as much as you want in PHP.
16:06 < blindcoder> well... I'll reduce my xterm and try to rework it
16:06 < blindcoder> it's only like 80 lines of code right now
16:06 < fake> good idea ;-)
16:06 < blindcoder> hmm...
16:06 < blindcoder> in a second connection to apollo, that is
16:07 < blindcoder>  *UARGH*
16:07 < blindcoder> *dies*
16:07 < snyke> hmm
16:07 < snyke> lol
16:07 < snyke> panic ("No CPUs found. System halted.\n");
16:07 < snyke> 2.4.3 linux/arch/parisc/kernel/setup.c
16:08 < fake> blindcoder: suddenly the dungeon collapses... you die.
16:08 * blindcoder loves multi-attached screens
16:08 < fake> screen -r -x ?
16:08 < blindcoder> fake> suddenly the unreaability of your code on 80x24 kills you... you die.
16:08 < blindcoder> fake> jep
16:09 < fake> he he.
16:10 * blindcoder screwed big time
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16:12 * blindcoder will try getting this 13" monitor up and running... nothing but a no-framebuffer 80x25 textconsole
16:13 < fake> blindcoder: where did you get that from??
16:14 * fake still is loogin for a nice VT100-Terminal
16:14 < blindcoder> hmm found it in the cellar
16:14 < fake> looking
16:19 < blindcoder> hmm... you can't redirect the output from echo in PHP, can you?
16:20 < blindcoder> I don't want to fuck around with file descriptors >_<
16:23 < fake> blindcoder: it's easy
16:24 < blindcoder> >-------$file = fopen($filename, "w");$
16:24 < blindcoder> >-------fwrite($file, $filecontent);$
16:24 < blindcoder> >-------fclose($file);$
16:24 < blindcoder> and that into a function
16:24 < fake> blindcoder: do you use the fasttemplates class?
16:24 < blindcoder> nonono
16:24 < fake> you could redirect that.
16:24 < blindcoder> that's a file that has to be run once a day
16:25 < blindcoder> not a HTML-Page
16:25 < blindcoder> currently it's first line states:
16:25 < fake> why don't you write it in a real language?
16:25 < blindcoder> header ("Content-Type: text/plain");
16:25 < blindcoder> fake> cause I have to check whether it works or not
16:25 < fake> ah. prototyping ;)
16:25 < blindcoder> yes :)
16:25 < blindcoder> it will become perl sooner or later
16:25 < blindcoder> I don't want to write it in C
16:25 < fake> perl? why not bash? ;-)
16:26 < blindcoder> hmm
16:26 < blindcoder> how to access mysql in bash?
16:26 < fake> for i in `mysql -u user -p pwd -b database < "SELECT * FOO FROM BAR";`
16:27 < fake> ?
16:27 < fake> or even
16:27 < blindcoder> hmm
16:27 < fake> SELECT INTO OUTFILE tmp.sqlanswer
16:27 < blindcoder> sounds like fun :)
16:27 < fake> Ack!
16:27 < fake> i love doing everything in bash - makes your brain wake up again.
16:28 < blindcoder> but you will connect elluva lot of times to the database that way
16:28 < fake> blindcoder: use named pipes or domain sockets then
16:29 < fake> you _will_ find a l33t way ;-)
16:29 < blindcoder> yeah, using domain sockets and a C program listening on it having a constant connection to the MySQL or other database backend using it'
16:29 < blindcoder> s own protocol on the socket
16:33 < blindcoder> hmm... looks like it will work
16:34 < blindcoder> now, tar and bz2 it... abnd then you can have a FIRST LOOK at it, fake
16:36 < fake> blindcoder: *waiting*
16:36 < blindcoder> hang on... it will still take 10 minutes
16:39 * fake running around
16:40 < blindcoder> +x where x=unknown time due to recent error caused by unknown cause
16:41 < blindcoder> eehh
16:41 < blindcoder> fake?
16:42 < blindcoder> $file = fopen($filename, "w") || die ("some error message");
16:42 < blindcoder> why isn't $file a valid filehandler?
16:42 < blindcoder> but it is when I take away the || die...
16:43 < fake> because fopen() returns a fd
16:43 < fake> and not false
16:43 < blindcoder> *argh* baka
16:43 < blindcoder> HA! Cheating that php-scum!
16:44 < blindcoder> ($file = fopen($filename, "w")) || die
16:44 < blindcoder> *MUAHAHA*
16:44 < fake> that will never be false.
16:44 < blindcoder> yes it will if he can't create that filehandler
16:44 < fake> i'm not sure...
16:44 < blindcoder> let's jkust check it
16:45 < fake> (btw, that how you'd do it in C also)
16:45 < esden> re hi all
16:45 < blindcoder> yes it works
16:45 < blindcoder> hi esden
16:46 < blindcoder> fake: fopen returns an error and that triggers die
16:46 < fake> blindcoder: kewl.
16:46 < blindcoder> so in fact I get TWO errors
16:46 < blindcoder> one from PHP and from myself
16:46 < fake> !blindcoder?
16:47 < blindcoder> !blindcoder == seeingluser
16:49 < blindcoder> damnit...
16:49 < blindcoder> I'm up to 5 tabs right now at one line
16:50 < fake> blindcoder: inline functions or macros... ;)
16:50 < blindcoder> while...if...while...if and one linewrapped string
16:50 < blindcoder> why isn't there an unless function in PHP
16:50 < blindcoder> *complaining to god and the world*
16:51 < fake> blindcoder: whiner. write one!
16:51 < blindcoder> Nah, too lazy
16:51 < fake> the stop complaining
16:51 < fake> then
16:51 < blindcoder> It's going to be rewritten in perl after all, so I will have one by then :P
16:56 < blindcoder> okay fake it seems to work
16:56 < blindcoder> what do you want to see?
16:56 < blindcoder> the php-output?
16:56 < blindcoder> the database?
16:56 < blindcoder> or the result?
16:58 < blindcoder> fake...?
16:58 < fake> the result
16:59 < blindcoder> https://www.crash-override.net/rocklinux/stree/package.tar.bz2
16:59 < blindcoder> it's only with a few example-tupels now, so...
16:59 < blindcoder> it's not much
17:01 < fake> you mean that data.txt?
17:01 < fake> what is it?
17:01 < blindcoder> nonono
17:01 < blindcoder> wait, I'll send you the link to the script... after setting it to VEBROSE-mode
17:01 < fake> blindcoder: what does it do?
17:02 < blindcoder> You'll know after seeing the file in action
17:02 < fake> a package requester?
17:03 < blindcoder> A system to create the _entire_ package directory
17:03 < fake> hell, just tell me what it is good for
17:03 < blindcoder> in easy terms: it's intended to be something like "apt-get update"
17:04 < blindcoder> just for /usr/src/rock-src/package
17:04 < blindcoder> "intended to become"
17:04 < fake> uhu?
17:04 < fake> ./scripts/Update-Src -all ?
17:04 < blindcoder> esden said yesterrdy there isn't something like taht??
17:05 < fake> blindcoder: it uses rsync to update the packages, and the whole rock-src
17:05 < blindcoder> oh... okay :)
17:06 * blindcoder will never trust esden again *grr* :)
17:06 < blindcoder> s,trust,believe,
17:07 < fake> blindcoder: maybe ihr habt euch missverstanden
17:08 < blindcoder> yeah, whatever
17:08 < blindcoder> I'm going to translate some anime
17:08 < blindcoder> c ya later
17:08 < fake> cya!
17:13 < blindcoder> hmm...
17:13 < blindcoder> nah, would have to start windows
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17:39 < esden> fake: that is not the thing blindcoder is thinking of
17:39 < blindcoder> esden... well actually it was... kinda
17:39 < blindcoder> but how was your test?
17:40 < blindcoder> exam i mean
17:40 < esden> very very good thanks
17:40 < blindcoder> nice to hear that :) *gives esden a hug*
17:40 < blindcoder> esden> want to see the script in action?
17:40 < esden> and there is nothing that looks like apt-get dist-upgrade
17:40 < esden> !!!!
17:40 < esden> *grr*
17:41 < esden> blindcoder: what script
17:41 < blindcoder> https://www.crash-override.net/rocklinux/stree/create_stree.php
17:41 < blindcoder> but take care, it's not thread_safe (don't run it twice at once)
17:42 < esden> hehe ... is that cool ...
17:42 < esden> it builds your dist online 
17:42 < esden> is that right ?
17:42 < blindcoder> no
17:42 < blindcoder> it recreates the rock-src/package directoy online
17:43 < esden> hmm ... good ... blindcoder .. you should read the mails from chris that he sent during linux tag
17:43 < esden> I think that will be interesting for you 
17:44 < blindcoder> give me a summary :)
17:44 < esden> no read it ... do not be lazy ! ;-)
17:45 < esden> It is really worth a read
17:45 < blindcoder> I'm having a really good game of nethack running...
17:45 < esden> we spent many hours to write it
17:45 < esden> ok ... then do not read it :-(
17:45 < blindcoder> I spent many hours on this run of the game :) - but I'll read them... right now
17:46 < blindcoder> when was linuxtag? date to loook up on the list
17:46 < esden> uuurgh ... mom
17:49 < esden> blindcoder: Jun 09
17:49 < blindcoder> kay
17:50 < blindcoder> right after flaming hedwig *grr*
17:50 < esden> 2562     Jun 09 Christopher Ham ( 3.7K) [rock-linux] Idea we had here... (fwd)
17:50 < esden> 2563     Jun 09 Christopher Ham ( 3.6K) [rock-linux] Implementation
17:50 < esden> 2564 r   Jun 09 Christopher Ham ( 5.9K) [rock-linux] Discussion summary
17:50 < esden> hehe ... flame her from me too ;-)
17:51 < blindcoder> wait, I'll forward it to you
17:51 < blindcoder> and then tell me if she's stupid or stupid
17:53 < blindcoder> esden: I don't think you have some time to spare, do you?
17:53 < esden> *ROFL* 
17:54 < blindcoder> hehe, MINE-Types :)
17:54 < esden> good answer ... really in style of fefe
17:54 < blindcoder> sorry, I just *hate* that woman
17:54 < esden> noo your answer is realle good ... I like it
17:55 < esden> "Abteilung f\374r \326ffentlichkeitsarbeit bei bingo e.V. misstraut eigenem Mailserver" *looool*
17:55 < blindcoder> esden: I read that mails back then, but didn't quite understand them
17:55 < blindcoder> esden: that's the kind of texts your going to create after reading too many Internet Oracle :)
17:55 < esden> hmm ... ok ... I will explain them to you when we see each other
17:56 < blindcoder> I don't think you have some time to spare right now, do you? :)
17:56 < esden> blindcoder: yes oracle is a educational property ;-)
17:56 < esden> nope sorry
17:56 < esden> but next week
17:57 < blindcoder> okay
17:57 < esden> I really would like ... or visit this crazy girl called steffi ... ;-)
17:58 < blindcoder> hmm... she's 14 AFAIK
17:58 < esden> yes that is a real problem ... but she wanted to eat me with skin and bones ... I want only to see how does she look like
17:58 < esden> that is all
17:59 < blindcoder> ...
17:59 < esden> blindcoder: ???
17:59 * -> esden needs nicotine
18:00 * blindcoder needs to suppress a comment
18:01 < esden> no please tell me ... here or in bchat ... as you like
18:42 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5382.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
18:42 < owl> hi
18:46 < blindcoder> hi owl
18:46 < owl> moin blindcoder
18:46 < esden> hi owl 
18:47 < owl> hi esden
18:54 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away
18:54 < rxr_away> cu guys
18:55 < esden> cu rxr_away 
19:01 < th> huhu owl
19:02 < owl> moin th. 
19:03 < esden> hi th 
19:03 < esden> ok ... I have to go now to bingo 
19:04 * snyke too
19:09 < fake> re.
19:09 < owl> re fake
19:27 < blindcoder> so, re
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20:54 < owl> re
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21:03 < th> wb owl
21:17 < fake> my god...
21:18 < fake> our firewall is _seriously_ broken
21:18 < fake> ACCEPT     tcp  !y----  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             * ->   *
21:18 < fake> ACCEPT     tcp  ------  0.0.0.0/0            0.0.12.109            * ->   *
21:18 < fake> etc etc...
21:18 < fake> and things like DENY-targets where DENY is default
21:19 < fake> omfg....
21:19 < fake> NOW i understand why all that stuff didn't work!
21:22 * blindcoder has just seen his new graphic card *dreamin*
21:37 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux
21:37 < netcrow> hi
21:37 < owl> moin :)
21:39 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590E61.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:40 < fake> hi netcrow 
21:40 < chrisime> jo leutZ
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22:05 < huebi> moin
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22:05 < huebi> can sombody reach rocklinux.dyndns.org?
22:06 < blindcoder> "Opening socket..."
22:06 < blindcoder> no doesn't seem like it...
22:06 -!- simon- [~simon@pD9E1D462.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
22:06 < fake> hi huebi !
22:06 -!- simon-- is now known as simon-
22:07 < blindcoder> fake: Firewalls are there to mutate to swiss cheese
22:08 < fake> blindcoder: this firewall has never dropped _any_ packet
22:08 < fake> mysql open to the world... even ldap...
22:08 * fake can't take any more
22:08 < blindcoder> hmm let me try the mysql :)
22:09 < fake> i knew it is ugly... but i never imagnied it could be... so.... 
22:09 < fake> blindcoder: please, stay off... *sigh
22:09 < blindcoder> sure thing
22:09 < blindcoder> I couldn't do it before september
22:09 < esden> fake: can I ... ? please
22:09 < blindcoder> I need 4 Monitors to do something like tht effectively
22:09 < esden> I want to play with your mysql fake ;-)
22:10 < esden> pleeeeeeeease
22:10 < fake> esden: PLEASE _NOT_
22:10 < esden> ohh ;_;
22:10 < fake> i am at it...
22:10 < blindcoder> fake: you know what a Matrox G450 X4 MMS is?
22:10 < esden> you are making me very sad fake
22:10 < fake> it has to be finished now... no... yesterday
22:10 < fake> blindcoder: yes.
22:10 < fake> a beast.
22:10 < blindcoder> fake: my new graphics adaptor
22:10 < esden> heeeey that is my text !!! ;-)
22:11 < fake> those morons here don't know a THING about firewalls
22:11 < fake> they can't een read a SuSE script!
22:11 < blindcoder> shut that damn thing down... by FORCE
22:11 < esden> fake ... you should overtake the firm !!!
22:12 < fake> blindcoder: hehe. i will. as soon as i get the 2.4 to work with ipsec the way I want it.
22:12 < esden> fake: make a violent takeover
22:12 < fake> esden: what would i want with a piece of shit and handfull of GUI coders?
22:12 < blindcoder> fake the new master of HumanIT
22:12 < esden> ehhm get them to work on something usable ?
22:13 < blindcoder> Lain target of ROCK Linux
22:13 < esden> YESS !!!
22:13 < esden> that's it !!
22:13 < fake> esden: M$ GUI coders.
22:14 < blindcoder> oh... shoot them on sight
22:14 < fake> actually I'm the only one using linux on a desktop here.
22:14 * -> esden getting a gatling
22:14 < fake> i won't shoot my dealer, though ;-)
22:14 < fake> hardware dealer, of course.
22:14 < blindcoder> sure thing
22:14 < blindcoder> you can't smoke software :)
22:15 < esden> sure *lough*
22:17 < fake> unfortunately.
22:17 < fake> ;)
22:18 < fake> can you try cat /proc/ksyms | grep sk_run please?
22:19 < fake> ipsec.o complains about sk_run_filter not being there
22:20 < blindcoder> fake: returns nothing
22:20 < fake> as do ppp_generic.ond ppoe.o
22:20 < fake> and
22:20 < blindcoder> moment, then I'll look at home
22:20 < fake> damn it!
22:20 < blindcoder> c0234734 sk_run_filter_R5abb658f
22:21 < blindcoder> does that help?
22:22 < fake> *argh*
22:22 < fake> yes.
22:22 < fake> thanks.
22:22 < fake> it's declared in net/core.c
22:22 < fake> and exported in netsyms.c
22:23 < blindcoder> that means, which module do you need?
22:23 < fake> but it's called completely wrong when "Set version information on all modules" is activated
22:23 < blindcoder> sorry, I'm not that far into the kernel
22:23 < fake> blindcoder: i want to use it, but ipsec doesn't seem to do versioning right
22:23 < esden> <news> Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 released. With the addition of the IA-64 (ia64), HP PA-RISC (hppa), MIPS (mips, mipsel), and S/390 (s390) architectures </news>
22:24 < fake> esden: early bird catches the worm.
22:25 < esden> did you know already about it ? :-(
22:25 < fake> yes.
22:25 < esden> sorry
22:25 < fake> why "sorry" ?
22:25 < esden> fake: sorry for bothering you with old news
22:26 < fake> with the above sentence i wanted to express, that ROCK will now no longer have the change to be the first.
22:26 < blindcoder> esden: that would be "olds", not "news" :)
22:26 < fake> chance.
22:26 < esden> fake: yes :-(
22:27 * blindcoder going home
22:27 < blindcoder> baba
22:27 < fake> cya
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22:29 < fake> re owl
22:29 < owl> re
22:32 < esden> re owl 
22:32 * -> esden getting debian iso 
22:33 * -> esden switching back to debian ;-)
22:33 < fake>  /kick esden
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22:44 < owl> re
22:45 * owl is going to destroy her eumex ISDN device *argh*
23:16 < th> hmm
23:18 -!- d3mian [~demian@196.40.30.179] has joined #rocklinux
23:18 < d3mian> hi guys
23:18 < owl> hi d3mian
23:21 < fake> hi d3mian 
23:25 < esden> hi d3mian 
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23:29 * fake is slowly getting somewhere
23:30 * -> esden cheers fake
23:31 < fake> esden: thanks.
23:32 * fake hooks up 3 hubs to the test machine.
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23:38 < d3mian> is there a ISO for 1.7.0 already?
23:39 < d3mian> ohh yes!
23:47 < esden> d3mian: ??? I do not think so ...
23:48 < d3mian> err. 1.5.17, no 1.7.0, my mistake, sorry. thnx for notice me
23:51 < esden> ahh ok ;-)
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