-!- Irrsi  Log opened Wed Jul 31 00:00:19 2002
-!- Irrsi  Day changed Wed Jul 31 2002
[00:00] < owl> huebi: if i would cook coffee, the people would die!
[00:00] < huebi> people. But no real men.
[00:01] < tsa> huebi: we could send owl_nude_pics.html to her boss.
[00:01]   Mike1 suddenly wants some coffee...
[00:01] < owl> huebi: _real men_ what do you mean?
[00:01] < tsa> Mike1: no problem. just tell owl to make you some..
[00:02] < tsa> ./topic Worshippers of caffeine
[00:02] < tsa> ;-)
[00:03] < huebi> owl: This question can only be asked by a woman who does not want to be one. And the answer can never be understood by her
[00:03] < owl> huebi: blafasel
[00:04]   owl gives everyone who needs caffeine, a pill (coffeinum)
[00:04] < tsa> nononono! COFFEE!
[00:04] < owl> nonononononono! pill!
[00:05] < huebi> owl: What's with your IQ?
[00:05] < tsa> wrong again. the pill is something for women.
[00:05] < owl> huebi: it's gone. i destroyed it using death metal *vbeg*
[00:05] < tsa> [IQ] (iq@chef.nerp.net) : IQ <- there it is.
[00:05] < d3mian> Mike1: ill last more time to arrive there, therefore i consider 15:30 to arrive
[00:05] < huebi> tsa: I met one how jumped from a 9 stores building and survived. he landed on gras.
[00:06] < tsa> uh.
[00:06] < owl> huebi: i'm frustrated. fscking install shield/install script is going to kill me. :-/ damn it.
[00:07] < huebi> tsa: his feet made 20cm deep holes he told me.
[00:07] < owl> *knurr*
[00:07] < Mike1> d3mian: sure
[00:07] < huebi> owl: better serve coffee. Believe me. It's your real profession.
[00:07] < owl> *argh* i will leave you now. bye.
[00:07] < Mike1> d3mian: take ur time i have to finish some stuff here anyways
[00:08] < huebi> cu owl.
[00:08] < huebi> owl: at a cup of coffee
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[00:09] < Mike1> lol
[00:09] < Mike1> huebi: what was that all about?
[00:10] < d3mian> hehe, a friend of mine who fell down from approx. 5 floors (building levels), he survived but now he cant have children. We use to joke all the time about that man
[00:10] < esden> ok hopefully the last run for dietlibc target ... so that I can send the first patch chunk ...
[00:11] < huebi> Mike1: Owl is a woman. And she does not believe she has to make coffee for men.
[00:12] < d3mian> lol
[00:13] < Mike1> well who the hell does she think she is?
[00:13] < Mike1> *g
[00:14] < huebi> Mike1: I could not find out. But that's normal. Women never know what they wnat/are/like/say/believe....
[00:15] < Mike1> true
[00:15] < d3mian> she is just a woman!!! they dunt think!  (just popular jokes, dunt want to make feel bad anyone)
[00:15] < Mike1> huebi: BTW is nice to see you around you have been pretty much away lately
[00:16] < huebi> tsa: point 40: Better use NOS to get the car faster. You could also use any non oxigen gas though.
[00:16] < Mike1> tsa: NOS is cool, and perhaps you might wanna have some nicotine while you are driving it :)
[00:16]   Mike1 j/k
[00:17] < tsa> huebi: hehe
[00:17] < huebi> Mike1: better no drugs at all while using it. You could miss sth.
[00:18] < esden> hmm ... no nicotine ... weet ;-)
[00:18] < huebi> <- built some very hot NOS-Engines with up to +1000% performance her in Germany at the NOS-Dirtibutor.
[00:18] < huebi> +s
[00:18] < Mike1> d3mian: try to get here at 6 if you like
[00:18] < Mike1> huebi: very cool!!!
[00:19] < huebi> esden: weed is for wimps! NOS makes you awake in an unbelievable way.
[00:20] < esden> huebi: sure that is right
[00:20] < huebi> Faith will be your best friend with NOS.
[00:20] < tsa> good idea, anyway.
[00:22] < esden> huebi: for sure
[00:23] < huebi> https://www.nitro-olympics.de/ <- Best Dragrace weekend in Europe.
[00:24]   tsa smoooking..
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[00:27] < chrisime> :-)
[00:28] < esden> re chrisime
[00:30] < [anders]> *gahen*
[00:30] < d3mian> ok Mike1 , re chris , [anders]
[00:31] < [anders]> Okay, presents wrapped.. Now time to check up on the stage 3 build of the latest 1.5.17 incarnation.. :) (No worries, no gnome2 stuff in there yet..
[00:31] < [anders]> )
[00:31] < [anders]> yo d3mian - long time no type..  How's things?
[00:31] < chrisime> esden: jetzt geht NAT + FW
[00:31] < d3mian> fine, thanx, u ok?
[00:32] < esden> chrisime: geht bei mir schon seid letzter woche :P
[00:32] < [anders]> d3mian: not bad.. starting to get tired now though.. Almost midnight here... and I have to get up at 6am..
[00:32] < chrisime> esden: brauch nur noch DHCP, richtiges BIND (config hab ich unter linux) + adzap
[00:32] < [anders]> moin zusammen..
[00:32] < chrisime> esden: und squid
[00:32] < esden> chrisime: ja ... mache dann mal schoen ;-)
[00:33] < huebi> chrisime: export LAND=en_GB
[00:33] < chrisime> das ding rennt recht gut
[00:33] < esden> ich habe keinen squid ... brauche ich auch nicht
[00:33] < chrisime> esden: ist goettlich
[00:33] < huebi> esden: you too
[00:33] < chrisime> esden: ein zusaetzlicher firewall dingsbums ;)
[00:34] < huebi> chrisime: proxy.
[00:34] < esden> chrisime: nicht wirklich ... nur ein weiterer klump der nervt
[00:34] < esden> proxy's sucken nur
[00:34] < chrisime> huebi: yupp
[00:34] < tsa> en_US!
[00:34] < chrisime> esden: schmarrn
[00:34] < esden> sorry
[00:34] < chrisime> esden: das toil is goil
[00:34] < chrisime> ;)
[00:34] < chrisime> oops
[00:34] < [anders]> sv_SE ?
[00:35] < esden> chrisme is always switching to german ... and i switch automatically too
[00:35] < esden> sorry guys
[00:35] < [anders]> Inga problem att snacka svenska, men kan bli lite ensamt eftersom inte så många kan det språket i den här kanalen.. :)
[00:35] < chrisime> blah
[00:35] < esden> chrisime: :P
[00:35] < esden> hehe
[00:35] < chrisime> dummerle
[00:36] < esden> [anders]: hmpf ... ok i now know how you feel when we talk german
[00:36] < [anders]> esden: Inga problem, jag ska sköta mig.. :)
[00:37] < [anders]> esden: No problem, I will behave myself.. :)
[00:37] < esden> [anders]: I will also try to behave ...
[00:38] < [anders]> I know how easy it is for you guys to slip in to german, especially as a majority of the people on here speaks german... It is a little irritating sometimes however..
[00:38] < chrisime> i do understand bits of that swedish whatever stuff :P
[00:39] < [anders]> chrisime: where did you learn it?
[00:39] < d3mian> setenv LANG SW
[00:39] < [anders]> d3mian: swahili?
[00:39] < d3mian> yes :)
[00:40] < chrisime> [anders]: it's too similar to german
[00:40] < chrisime> that's why
[00:40] < chrisime> + i worked for IKEA some time ago ;P
[00:40] < d3mian> pero el espanol cambia bastante con respecto al ingles, aleman o sueco
[00:40] < [anders]> chrisime: It is.. German and Swedish has lots in common, apart from the fact you guys stick the verb right at the end of the sentences..
[00:41] < [anders]> d3mian: me no habla espanol, amigo..
[00:41] < tsa> hm...tengo que apprender sueco, mejor
[00:41] < chrisime> [anders]: yeah, confusing, huh ;)
[00:41] < [anders]> chrisime: well, at IKEA you should get exposed to the lingo from time to time.. :)
[00:41] < d3mian> tsa: :)
[00:41] < tsa> algo mas que necesito?
[00:42] < tsa> aleman, ingles, espanol
[00:42] < [anders]> suede
[00:42] < d3mian> i like to hear tsa speaking in spanish, that's no common here
[00:43] < Mike1> tsa: você falas portugues?
[00:44] < tsa> d3mian: para mi no hay problema, pero pienso esden o huebi nos van a mar
[00:44] < tsa> Mike1: no.
[00:44] < [anders]> d3mian: but for us poor souls that has either not studied spanish, or have forgotten most of it (ir - voy vas van, vamos vais van - or thereabouts..) - it isn't easy..
[00:44] < tsa> matar
[00:44] < d3mian> je parle french too
[00:44] < tsa> arrrgh
[00:45] < tsa> need common LANG setting. please advise.
[00:45] < [anders]> en_US
[00:45] < d3mian> #define LANG en_US
[00:45] < tsa> ok.
[00:45] < [anders]>         Option      "XkbRules" "xfree86"
[00:45] < [anders]>         Option      "XkbModel" "pc104"
[00:45] < [anders]>         Option      "XkbLayout" "en_US"
[00:45] < [anders]>         Option      "XkbVariant" "pc104"
[00:45] < tsa> so now we could even talk to each other _and_ understand.
[00:45] < [anders]> *g*
[00:46] < tsa> hehe
[00:46] < Mike1> export lang=sw_SW
[00:46] < [anders]> Mike1: oh no you don't.. :)
[00:46] < Mike1> [anders]: hehe
[00:46] < Mike1> :)
[00:46] < d3mian> :)
[00:46] < chrisime> i don't get a 'oe' with that setting
[00:47] < chrisime> øæ
[00:47] < chrisime> ß
[00:47] < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - a - o = å
[00:47] < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - o - " = ö
[00:48] < chrisime> were's compose again
[00:48] < chrisime> the window flag key
[00:49] < huebi> are 5.5MB/s a normal speed for a 16x DVD-ROM?
[00:49] < chrisime> i think i said no deadkeys
[00:49] < chrisime> or wsomething
[00:49] < [anders]> chrisime: the Xkb settings above force nodeadkeys set..
[00:50] < [anders]> my compose key is set to Shift + AltGr..
[00:50] < chrisime> doesn't work
[00:50] < chrisime> æ
[00:50] < chrisime> Æ
[00:50] < chrisime> Ø
[00:51] < [anders]> --(anders@alien)-[1482]-[Tue Jul 30 23:50:56]-(~)--
[00:51] < [anders]> $ cat .Xmodmap
[00:51] < [anders]> keycode  13 = 4 dollar currency onequarter
[00:51] < [anders]> keycode  59 = comma less aring Aring
[00:51] < [anders]> keycode  60 = period greater adiaeresis Adiaeresis
[00:51] < [anders]> keycode  61 = slash question odiaeresis Odiaeresis
[00:51] < [anders]> keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key
[00:51] < [anders]> add mod3 = Multi_key
[00:51] < [anders]> => Shift + AltGr = Compose
[00:51] < chrisime> i hate xmodmap
[00:51] < chrisime> thx
[00:52] < [anders]> xmodmap is alright.. it takes some to get used to however.. I have been trying to get this to work for weeks... and it took me about 30 seconds tonight jsut because I am tired probably..
[00:53] < chrisime> i did it one time, but i forgot it again
[00:53] < chrisime> brb
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[00:55] < [anders]> Mike1: still building the stage 3.. I had to tweak the gnome-applets package to get that working.. it didn't like being built make -j2 apperantly..
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[00:56] < Mike1> [anders]: i see
[00:56] < Mike1> [anders]: BTW is got your email Tack så mycket!
[00:57] < [anders]> Tomorrow I should be able to start adding things into the tree and see if it builds.. I wonder if this type of environment could be used to build security updates that could be made available on the web somewhere....?
[00:57] < [anders]> Mike1: Var så god! :)
[00:57] < [anders]> Mike1: didn't know you were speaking swedish.. :)
[00:58] < d3mian> da u do it Mike1 ?
[00:58] < Mike1> [anders]: cool but please wait for me to finish my changes tonight
[01:00] < [anders]> Mike1: no sweat.. do you want me to tar up my private tree and e-mail it to you?
[01:01] < Mike1> d3mian: sure, Jag talar engelska, franska, tyska, svenska  och spanska.
[01:01] < [anders]> And he sure knows his swedish.. :)
[01:01] < Mike1> [anders]: no way! we can use rsync :)
[01:02] < [anders]> Err.. /me not very familiar with rsync..
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[01:02] < codeq> re
[01:02] < Mike1> [anders]: no worry i am :)
[01:02] < Mike1> i can teach you
[01:02] < [anders]> heh
[01:02] < Mike1> mom
[01:03] < [anders]> good stuff... if you e-mail me the instructions.. I'll read through and work on it tomorrow yeah? I have to go bed now.. past midnight here and I am getting up in six hours..
[01:03] < Mike1> [anders]: just give me one minute please
[01:03] < [anders]> ok
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[01:06] < [anders]> Mmhmm.. 2.4.19-rc3-ac5 is available now..
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[01:12] < tsa> <- going to sleep.
[01:12] < tsa> cu all
[01:12] < tsa> *gaehn*
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[01:14] < esden> ok mail sent to clifford ...
[01:15] < esden> now off to get stage 2 compiling
[01:15] < [anders]> who was it that was interested in new 2.4.19 patches? it was someone in here...
[01:15] < esden> hmm but first sync with the new snap
[01:17] < [anders]> esden: /me has a patch against CVS to fix build order of several things and to proof one package against make -jN where N>1
[01:19] < esden> but it is the 1.5 tree ... right ?
[01:19] < [anders]> esden: correctamundo..
[01:20] < h0h0> is that supposed to be a fake spanish word?
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[01:22] < [anders]> h0h0: nyet.. only a funny one... ;-)
[01:23] < h0h0> what?
[01:23] < [anders]> nyet =  no in russian..
[01:23] < [anders]> can also be spelled njet depending on who you ask.. :)
[01:23] < h0h0> hmm
[01:23] < Mike1> God natt [anders]
[01:23] < [anders]> God natt Mike1, sov gott när du nu kryper i säng.. :)
[01:24] < [anders]> guten nacht alles.. I'm tired and off to bed now.. ~~~
[01:27] < huebi> good night [anders]
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[01:42] < chrisime> esden: https://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=5&id=262878
[01:42] < chrisime> esden: die mac's sind effektiv ;)
[01:49] < esden> hmm ...
[01:49] < chrisime> :P
[01:49] < chrisime> >3000 am tag
[01:49] < esden> ohhja man sieht es
[01:52] < chrisime> esden: wo gibts nen apacge
[01:52] < chrisime> apacge
[01:52] < chrisime> apache
[01:52]   chrisime krise!
[01:54] < esden> an apache ... what for ?
[01:55] < Mike1> anyone has experience with UML ?
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[01:56] < chrisime> Mike1: yo!
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[01:56] < chrisime> esden: wei lich den brauch?!
[01:56] < Mike1> chrisime Can i use egcs64 to build user-mode-linux(which contains some userspace and some kernelspace code)
[01:56] < Mike1> 64-bit on Ultrasparc?
[01:57] < chrisime> oh
[01:57] < chrisime> i thought universal modelling language
[01:57] < chrisime> unified or whatever
[01:57] < Mike1> chrisime: oh :( ok
[01:58] < chrisime> Mike1: UML == UML not some linux stuff :P
[01:58]   Mike1 needs [anders] :(( and he went to bed
[01:58] < Mike1> chrisime: its ok
[01:58] < chrisime> heh
[02:00] < esden> Mike1: can I ask you what you want to do with uml ? and why you want to compile it with egcs ?
[02:00] < esden> i mean on sparc ?
[02:01] < esden> are you running a e10k that has nothing to do ? ;-)
[02:01] < huebi> good night. See you tomorrow.
[02:01] < Mike1> esden: gcc3 has still some problems with the linker
[02:01] < esden> n8 huebi
[02:01] < Mike1> n8 huebi
[02:02] < esden> Mike1: yes ... gcc3.2 should be out really soon ... if i am right
[02:02] < Mike1> and as i said before just need to build user-mode-linux containing some user space and kernel space 64bit code on a Ultrasparc
[02:03] < Mike1> so while gcc3.2 comes out what should i compiler should i use?
[02:03] < esden> aha ok ... (still no idea what for ... )
[02:03] < esden> Mike1: no idea ... /me not sparc
[02:04] < Mike1> esden: :(((((
[02:04]   Mike1 sad
[02:04] < esden> but I think egcs is currently the choice
[02:06] < Mike1> ok thank you very much master esden
[02:06] < Mike1> :)
[02:07] < esden> denada
[02:09] < Mike1> nice spanish there
[02:13] < esden> where *lookaround*
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[02:17] < Mike1> lol
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[02:43] < Mike1> d3mian: !!!
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[03:33] < esden> hmm ...
[03:34] < Mike1> whats up?
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[03:41]   esden fighting
[03:41] < esden> humm
[03:50] < esden> god is this ill ...
[03:50] < esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_<
[03:50] < esden> terrible
[03:52] < esden> I can now walk over the place with a t-shirt ... "This is esden and he thinks that _ALL_ software is _REAL_ bullshit"
[04:01] < fake> WOW!
[04:01] < fake> <- thrilled
[04:02] < esden> hi fake
[04:02] < esden> fake: wow ???
[04:02] < fake> esden: if you ever by chance come by the movie "Im Fadenkreuz" WATCH IT!!!!!
[04:02] < esden> ok will do
[04:03] < fake> it's about a _real_ incidence (i didn't know that until the end)
[04:03] < fake> remember the 2 NATO pilots that were shot down in bosnien-herzegowina?
[04:03] < esden> yes ...
[04:03] < fake> it's their story
[04:04] < esden> urgh
[04:04] < esden> cool
[04:04] < fake> it's really...... real.
[04:04] < esden> must be very interesting
[04:04] < fake> there were two ppl in the jet that was shot down
[04:04] < fake> both stayed alive after the crash
[04:05] < fake> 1 was injured, so the other ( the navigator ) tried to use his radio from some place further up
[04:05] < fake> but he had to watch the pilot being shot into the head by the serbic army...
[04:05] < esden> autsh
[04:06] < fake> das is so derb
[04:06] < fake> dann sagt dem sein vorgesetzter er holt ihn raus, und grade so schafft er es zu dem pick-up-punkt
[04:07] < fake> .... als er ankommt, bekommt der commandante die rettungsaktion verboten, weil er den luftraum nicht verletzen darf
[04:07] < esden> no toll
[04:08] < fake> dann soll er sich in "gesichertes gebiet" begeben - wo er mal nicht von snipern und granaten, sondern von panzern und mgs belaestigt wird
[04:08] < fake> da tauscht er dann die uniform mit der eines serbischen soldaten
[04:08] < fake> daher kam die meldung dass beide soldaten tot seien (im fernsehen)
[04:08] < esden> aja ... weiter ...
[04:09] < fake> die serben wussten aber dass er nicht tot ist, wollten ihn nur spaeter aus dem weg schaffen
[04:10] < fake> weil sein fungeraet im arsch ist, schlaegt er sich dann ( nach einer weiteren, wegen der totmeldung abgeblasenen rettungsaktion ) zum not-ausstieg-pilotensessel durch
[04:10] < fake> und aktiviert das "blip" von dem teil
[04:10] < fake> sein vorgesetzter hat ja bis dahin auch gedacht das er tot is
[04:10] < fake> und in dem sessel sind die fotos, die sie gemacht haben, bevor sie abgeschossen wurden
[04:10] < fake> von so graebern von nem Voelkermord...
[04:11] < fake> ( natuerlich alles digital )
[04:11] < esden> schoen ... und dann die daten geloescht ... oder ?
[04:11] < fake> natuerlich nicht. die serben wussten ja nicht wo die gesperichert wurden.
[04:11] < esden> aso .. ok
[04:11] < fake> und den sessel hatten sie noch nicht gefunden
[04:12] < fake> dann entledigt er sich anhand eines geilen tricks des letzten sniperers
[04:12] < fake> ... nur um dann festzustellen, dass weitere 3 Panzer und ein Regiment Infanterie bereistand...
[04:12] < fake> ach....
[04:12] < fake> den muess ma uns mal geben ;-)
[04:13] < esden> toll ... ... sisyfus arbeit ...
[04:13] < esden> ja muss ich mir anschauen unbedingt
[04:13] < fake> esden: was isn dieser scheiss call_admin.sh ?
[04:14] < esden> fake: frage mich nicht ... irgendein scheiss dsl dreck vom anton >_<
[04:14] < fake> hm.... nervig
[04:14] < esden> ja auf jeden fall
[04:14] < esden> aber als ich gemerkt habe das ich es bekomme war es so spaet das ich den anton nicht mehr anrufen wollte
[04:15] < fake> das wunder der email - fuer keine partei zeitlich bindend
[04:16]   fake wirft noch den build an, raucht eine und geht dann knacken
[04:16] < esden> ja ... wenn bingo ne firma waehre haette ich keine bedenken den anton aus dem bett zu holen ... >_<
[04:16] < esden> fake: wie weit und womit bist du jetzt ?
[04:17] < fake> esden: rock 1.7 latest, ia32, so gut wie durch
[04:17] < esden> asoo ... viele fixes ?
[04:17] < fake> das ander zeuch bin ich noch nich zu gekommen - hab die letzten 2 tage nur kiste aufgeraeumt
[04:18] < fake> esden: noch kein einziger - ausser netpbm, aber das is schon wieder 2 releases her
[04:18] < esden> aja ...
[04:18] < esden> ich habe heute einen monsterpatch fuer dietlibc target an cliff geschickt ...
[04:19] < fake> kewl ;)
[04:19] < esden> und jetzt veruche ich noch mit stage 2 von dem dietilbc target zu kaempfen
[04:19] < fake> was is andas?
[04:19] < Mike-d3mian> esden: <esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_<
[04:19] < Mike-d3mian> ????
[04:19] < esden> ist echt uferlos
[04:19] < Mike-d3mian> wie gets fake?
[04:19] < fake> danke, nach 2 bier laessts sichs aushalten! @Mike-d3mian
[04:19] < esden> Mike-d3mian: fighting with software that sould compile on dietlibc ... but the software is so crappy ... o
[04:20] < esden> fake: *rofl*
[04:20] < Mike-d3mian> esden: i see
[04:20]   fake wonders wether he got that
[04:21] < esden> fake: du bist sooo fiesss ;-)
[04:21] < fake> *nargf* how many of those annoying sysmails are there gonna come?
[04:21] < esden> maaaaany ;-)
[04:21]   fake kicks antotn
[04:21] < fake> -t
[04:22] < fake> esden: looks like very ten minutes
[04:22] < esden> antotn ... hmm sounds good ;-)
[04:22] < esden> yes seems so
[04:22] < fake> every
[04:22] < fake> makes 6 per hour
[04:22] < esden> hmm ... Ralf Baechle writing to the mips mailinglist
[04:22] < esden> they are really active there in the last time ...
[04:23] < fake> that gives us approximately 4*6 = 24 until anton gets up
[04:23] < fake> esden: lots of r4k patches and fixes *happy*
[04:23] < esden> i am happy for you too ...
[04:23] < Mike-d3mian> fake: got a beer for me?
[04:23] < Mike-d3mian> me = Mike
[04:23] < esden> but when will you continue your work on mips ?
[04:24] < fake> Mike-d3mian: of course. Erdinger Weissbier, brewed in Munich, bought in Munich, drunk in Munich ;-)
[04:24] < Mike-d3mian> fake: lol
[04:24]   fake is in Munich
[04:24] < Mike-d3mian> fake: i sort of realized that
[04:24] < fake> he-he.
[04:24] < esden> fake: have not accidently not forgot to ask nos ?
[04:25] < fake> esden: not accidently. i forgot it like i told you XD
[04:25] < esden> *seufz*
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[04:25] < fake> ask _him_ _NOT_ me.
[04:26] < fake> <- whined in the NWN Forum today
[04:26] < esden> i know ... i will call him tomorrow ... >_<
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[04:26] < d3mian> hi guys
[04:26] < fake> hi d3mian !
[04:26] < esden> hi d3mian
[04:27] < esden> fake: wheenee
[04:27] < fake> esden: i said: gimme the source and i stop whining ;-)
[04:27] < esden> hehe ;-)
[04:27] < fake> hm... maybe even less than 10 minutes?
[04:27] < esden> you will port it by yourself ;-)
[04:28] < fake> esden: of course. if there's source, there's a way.
[04:28] < esden> yes sure ... even if the source sux like the source I fight currently with ... >_<
[04:29] < fake> you are looking into netscape? *g*
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[04:29] < Mike1> re
[04:29] < fake> re Mike1
[04:29] < Mike1> :)
[04:29] < esden> re Mike1
[04:29] < fake> hm... esden: will the next mai lcome at :31 or :36 ?
[04:29] < fake> let's net
[04:29] < fake> s,net,bet
[04:30] < fake> i say 36
[04:30] < esden> i say 32
[04:30] < fake> hehe.
[04:30] < Mike1> 34
[04:30] < fake> what do we bet about?
[04:31] < fake> Mike1: you're out. you cheat.
[04:31] < Mike1> esdens alpha :)
[04:31] < esden> argh
[04:31] < fake> algebraic middles are for cheaters ;P
[04:31] < esden> I like powers of 2
[04:32] < fake> hm... about a beer?
[04:32] < esden> no beer here :-(
[04:32] < esden> only sleepness
[04:33] < fake> nah, you lost anyways
[04:33] < fake> it's already :33
[04:33] < fake> (apollo-time ;-)
[04:34]   d3mian rebooting
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[04:34] < Mike1> thats my MACHINE damn it!!
[04:35] < fake> hehe
[04:35] < fake> Mike1 lost, too ;-)
[04:35] < fake> so the only possible remaining winner is... me!
[04:35] < fake> what did we bet about? 1k EUR?
[04:35] < fake> fine!
[04:35] < esden> urgh
[04:35] < Mike1> fake no i didnt lose :)
[04:35] < fake> it's :35 apollo time
[04:36] < fake> and all important times are measured in apollo time, thus you loose ;P
[04:36] < Mike1> <fake> Mike1: you're out.
[04:36] < Mike1> :P
[04:36] < fake> nah. i thought i'd do you a favor and let you take part - in case you loose ;))
[04:37] < fake> <- lost, too ?
[04:37] < esden> seems so ...
[04:37] < Mike1> lol
[04:37] < fake> hm.. 15 mins? would make it :41
[04:38] < esden> it can also be that anton fixed it ...
[04:38] < fake> anyways, i'm off - sleep well
[04:38] < Mike1> n8 fake
[04:38] < fake> thanks =D
[04:38] < esden> n8 fake
[04:38] < esden> sleep well
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[04:38] < fake> you too
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[04:39] < Mike1> WTF!!
[04:39] < d3mian> re
[04:39] < Mike1> grrr
[04:39] < d3mian> hehe
[04:39] < esden> hurgh ?
[04:39] < esden> d3mian: do not mess up everything on the bok of Mike1
[04:39] < Mike1> esden d3mian is here with me
[04:39] < d3mian> yep
[04:39] < esden> Mike1: poor boy *evil_grin*
[04:40] < d3mian> hehe
[04:40] < Mike1> lol
[04:40] < Mike1> esden but no worries he wants u
[04:40] < Mike1> :)
[04:40] < d3mian> ehh?
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[04:41] < esden> meee ??? *run*
[04:43] < d3mian> what da you mean Mike1?
[04:43]   Mike1 esden who's that phone esden ?
[04:43] < Mike1> oops
[04:43] < Mike1> d3mian jk
[04:43] < d3mian> :)
[04:44] < esden> hmm ...
[04:45] < d3mian> is there a way to trap a SIGINT with a shell script ?
[04:45] < esden> yes sure ... look in the scripts of rocklinux
[04:45] < esden> ;-)
[04:46] < Mike1> or fell free to call clifford and ask him
[04:46] < Mike1> he will probably feel free to drop the phone in ur fac
[04:46] < Mike1> +e
[04:46] < Mike1> :P
[04:46] < d3mian> what is his phone?
[04:46] < esden> i think clifford would kill him ...
[04:46] < d3mian> well, i know Mike1 will lend me his phone to call him
[04:47] < Mike1> esden if you to call clifford or ripclaw during quality sleep time who would u prefer to call?
[04:47] < Mike1> sure
[04:47] < Mike1> d3mian ip phone rulez
[04:47] < Mike1> :)
[04:47] < esden> hmm ... none of them ...
[04:48] < Mike1> esden hehe
[04:48] < d3mian> i dunt want to deep in scripts, which of them trap the signal?, or gimme a clue to do a grep!
[04:49] < Mike1> grep <option> what-you-need scripts/*
[04:49]   Mike1 hehe :P
[04:49] < d3mian> argg
[04:50]   esden on the way
[04:50] < Mike1> ?
[04:52] < esden>         found_error() {
[04:52] < esden>                 echo "Command returned exit status $?."
[04:52] < esden>                 exit 1
[04:52] < esden>         }
[04:52] < esden>         trap 'found_error' ERR
[04:52] < esden>         set -e # just paranoia
[04:52] < esden>         
[04:52] < esden>         trap 'echo "Got SIGIN (Crtl-C). Aborting build." ; exit 1' INT
[04:52] < esden>         exec < /dev/null
[04:53] < d3mian> umm, nice
[04:53] < esden> hehe ... I love clifford's paranoia
[04:53] < d3mian> :)
[04:54] < esden> d3mian: is that what you were searching for ?
[04:54] < Mike1> esden you are evil d3mian is trying to blow my machine!!
[04:55] < d3mian> yep
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[04:55] < Mike1> esden will u help me kick d3mian's GEIL ass if he fucks anything??
[04:56] < Mike1> hallo zman_
[04:56] < zman_> hi Mike1
[04:56] < zman_> just listening tonight
[04:56] < esden> Mike1: ohh ... sorry ... >_<
[04:57] < Mike1> zman_ ?
[04:57] < esden> hi zman_
[04:57] < zman_> hi esden
[04:57] < esden> hmm ... I will have to go sleeping now ...
[04:57] < d3mian> Mike1: if you try to close to me, be sure, ill do a: mike@alicia:~/projects/ROCK/rock-1.5$rm -rf .
[04:58]   esden needs now some sleep badly ... /me hacked the last 15 hours ... and before that i had to stend that heat ... >_<
[04:58] < esden> terrible
[04:59] < Mike1> esden so go get some sleep
[04:59] < d3mian> oh oh, Mike1, do you have a back up of ur rock stuff ?
[04:59] < esden> hmm ... will do ... will do
[04:59] < Mike1> d3mian depends, do u have a backup of ur life?
[04:59]   esden packing stuff together
[04:59] < d3mian> :(
[05:00]   Mike1 looking for his shotgun
[05:00]   d3mian is preparing its knife!!
[05:00]   Mike1 drops esden to d3mian
[05:02] < esden> *ruaaaaarrrr* *bite_d3mian* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew*
[05:03]   Mike1 getting ready to go home
[05:03] < Mike1> esden hehe
[05:03]   Mike1 *ROTL*
[05:03] < d3mian> LOL
[05:03] < esden> ok ... I go home now ... cu guys
[05:03] < Mike1> esden me too nacht
[05:03] < d3mian> cu esden
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[05:04] < esden> good night alltogether
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[05:10] < d3mian> cu too
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[08:31] < huebi> moin
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[10:39] < [anders]> *gahen!*
[10:39] < [anders]> moin zusammen
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[10:46] < huebi> moin [anders]
[10:57] < [anders]> huebi: I overslept this morning.. didn't get up until about 7:15 and then I waited for the gf to get ready and dropped her off at work.,. I am usually in at work before 8am, today I didn't get in until 9:35..
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[10:59] < huebi> [anders]: o_O
[10:59] < huebi> moin bluefire
[10:59] < bluefire> Hellihello ;)
[11:00] < [anders]> huebi: x_x more like it...
[11:00] < [anders]> I am looking forward to the espresso coffee this morning so I can wake up a bit.
[11:01] < huebi> I add some missing programs for SCSI devices to 1.5.17, look for updated pqackages like qt and start a new build later.
[11:01] < huebi> [anders]: owl isn't around here. Bad luck. She could make some coffee *g*
[11:02] < [anders]> huebi: ok.. I'll pull CVS and make some patches in a bit..
[11:03] < huebi> [anders]: nice.
[11:04] < [anders]> Hmm.. I should probably send you a patch with the updated build sequence for some of the gnome packages..
[11:04] < huebi> [anders]: What do you want to do with Gnome2? Do you want to put it now into cvs or later, when the packages for it are finished?
[11:05] < huebi> [anders]: yep, send me the patch. I put it into cvs then.
[11:08] < [anders]> huebi: I spoke with Mike1 yesterday about this and he and I are going to co-operate on getting it working. I think we should concentrate on getting 1.6.0 ready and released and then get 1.6.1 out shortly afterwards with Gnome2 in it. Getting gnome2 into 1.5.17 now would be nice, but there are space issue to consider as well as the fact it is a rather big change
[11:09] < huebi> (Nice. only 27 degrees in my room today)
[11:09] < huebi> [anders]: ACK
[11:09] < [anders]> with Gnome2 you can replace perhaps half of Gnome 1.4 with it, but the libraries and some of the packages from Gnome 1.4 will still be needed to build gtk+ 1.x stuff..
[11:10] < [anders]> And you are talking about 250MB+ stuff of Gnome2 things when installed.. the base+opt ISO is already nudging on 700MB..
[11:10] < huebi> [anders]: and there are more issues to solve like the boot CDs, kernel configuration for all architectures, and the space issue.
[11:10] < [anders]> Perhaps we should also into 1.6.1 incorporate the dRock feature of installing from two CD's ?
[11:11] < [anders]> or even three CD's.. Once we have that feature we should be able to do a lot more with Rock 1.6.x
[11:12] < [anders]> <- afk - coffee
[11:12] < huebi> I want to solve the space issue with a modified linux-src(no whole sourectree in there. Instead of that only a build script for the tree.) and XFree86 package (no documentation anymore) and I will move rfc to ext.
[11:13]   huebi getting coffee, too.
[11:19] < huebi> got it ;-)
[11:39]   [anders] is back, fueled up with caffeine and running a port glitching test on an experimental build at work..
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[12:20] < th> re
[12:26] < snyke> hi th
[12:31] < huebi> moin th
[12:34] < th> jo hi
[12:38] < [anders]> huebi: anders.patches.1.5.17.020731.tbz2 uploaded, as is the md5 file. take a peek at it and let me know if they makes sense. :)
[12:39] < huebi> an jo, I do so.
[12:39] < huebi> [anders]: jo, I do so.
[12:48] < [anders]> huebi: okidoki.. I will probably go though building stage 3 again now then. I wanna make sure it builds and works before doing any Gnome2 stuff..
[12:49] < [anders]> huebi: oh, and I have regressed gettext in that patch-set. 0.10.40 is required for Gnome2. Once Gnome2 builds on later versions, I'll send you a patch progressing the version used of gettext again.
[12:49] < [anders]> you don't have to use that patch, but my builds will be using that version of gettext...
[13:11] < [anders]> huebi: could you take a look at the openssl.pz.patch and if you agree with it, apply it to teh CVS repository at earliest convenient..
[13:12] < [anders]> I have just uploaded it and only just found it
[13:12] < huebi> [anders]: Jo.
[13:15] < [anders]> I have tested it myself (not built it though) and it downloads and converts to bz2 fine..
[13:26] < [anders]> just fired off another stage 3 build. Should see later tonight or tomorrow morning how it goes.. It should build fine..
[14:23] < [anders]> It is a bit quiet in here today, isn't it.. Is everybody hung over or just busy with work/school? :)
[14:24] < huebi> [anders]: I cleaned my desk and I'm now reading news.
[14:25] < [anders]> huebi: I've been testing/building things here at work trying to a) track down an elusive bug and b) to try and get a new build out to testers today.. :)
[14:25]   th is just in a very bad mood.
[14:26]   [anders] hands th a cup of tea and a biscuit in the hope it will make th feel a little better..
[14:27] < th> i'm afraid that can't help a bit :-/
[14:27] < th> thanks anyway
[14:28] < huebi> th: So what can help you?
[14:28] < [anders]> th: sorry to hear you are having a bad day, anything we can do?
[14:29] < th> thanks guys. but you can't help. /me is having worst days of my live. trouble with my girlfriend.
[14:30] < [anders]> th: I know the feeling.. I had several weeks of that just before the separation from my wife..
[14:31] < th> i can't eat. i can't sleep. i have no fun in hacking :-(
[14:31] < [anders]> th: yep.. and until the trouble with your gf is sorted it will not really change..
[14:32] < [anders]> there is nothing really I can tell you that will cheer you up in this situation..
[14:33] < th> she wanted some separation for a week or two. to think about her feelings to me.
[14:33] < huebi> I found only two days ago a first solution with my wife for our problems we have.
[14:34] < th> had her in my arms yesterday. then i had to say goodbye. waiting to hear something from her is a torture.
[14:34] < huebi> Separation is _no_ solution for us because we both want to be there for our daughter.
[14:35] < [anders]> huebi: in my case the separation was agreed to because it would mean less friction and less chance of things turning sour..
[14:36] < [anders]> And also, the love had gone.. There is very little dto do when that happens..
[14:36] < huebi> th: perhaps you can call her and talk to her over this longer distance. For me that helped to find out the real problems and a solution for them
[14:37] < th> huebi: no. no communication at all. i must not call her. we had a weekend relationship where telephone was our major communication
[14:37] < th> so it would be no separation with phoning her
[14:38] < th> the problem is - things go so slow if you have no fun.
[14:38] < huebi> [anders]: Love is feeling that must be taken care of. Like a small plant that will die if you don't give it some water and light.
[14:40] < huebi> th: OK. Then an other idea is to meditate aboub what you for yourself - only for yourself - really want. And what is good for you. And then go for it without any doubt.
[14:42] < th> huebi: i really want to get her back in my arms. i want to hear her car approaching. i want to see her
[14:42] < th> huebi: all i want is not possible ATM
[14:43] < th> i'm really really afraid to get her final goodbye.
[14:44] < [anders]> huebi: I know that, not so easy when forced to work far from home because wife is spending money faster than I could earn it. Travelling home every weekend was not possible as I would have become so tired I could not have done my work properly and probably would have got fired..
[14:45] < [anders]> love needs to be cared for and nurtured by both sides, not just one side...
[14:45] < huebi> [anders]: ACK.
[14:47] < [anders]> I did try and provide a better life for my family by moving to Sweden, but was forced to carry on working in UK to try and pay of the debt my wife had run up. And that was what broke the marriage completely. I was never home as I was trng hard to pay the debts and meanwhile she was busy creating new debt with the phone..
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[14:49] < huebi> moin Ge0rG
[14:49] < [anders]> moin Ge0rG , wie gehts?
[14:51]   Ge0rG ist eigentlich gar nicht da ;(
[14:51] < Ge0rG> ;)
[14:53] < huebi> [anders]: If I look at the cost of a family, how much money I have to spend for it, then it's allway a bad deal. Luckily my wife does not spend more money than I earn. But to get woken up in the morning after only 4h of sleep by my daughter who wants to play with me is really worth it.
[14:54] < [anders]> huebi: I really really miss my daughter, but I would still not get to see her more often than I do now.. Perhaps in ten years time I would have...
[14:55] < [anders]> Perhaps with the way things are now, I will be able to afford to take two weeks holiday now and then and I get to see her 24/7. As things were, I could not have done that..
[14:56] < rolla> re
[14:56] < huebi> moin rolla
[14:57] < rolla> how are you doing huebi ?
[14:58] < huebi> fine. And hungry. Time for lunch it's 14:58 here
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[14:58] < rolla> where is here ?
[14:59] < huebi> Germany
[14:59] < huebi> Frankfurt
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[14:59] < rolla> cool :0
[14:59] < rolla> it is breakfest time here
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[15:03] < rolla> who is the main drock maintainer ?
[15:03] < [anders]> rolla: Rene Rebe (rxr)
[15:03] < rolla> okay
[15:03] < huebi> rxr_away but he is in Denmark on vacation.
[15:04]   [anders] figures that a family is the fastest way to both happiness and heartache.. Probably both at the same time..
[15:04] < rolla> great
[15:04] < rolla> I pulled down newest version and it cannot find files already :(
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[15:15] < hackbard> hi again
[15:20] < huebi> Hallo hackbard. How are you?
[15:22] < hackbard> hi huebi, thanks i am fine, you too?
[15:22] < huebi> jo
[15:23] < hackbard> need to read the last 3 weeks mails to see the progress of rock :)
[15:23] < huebi> hackbard: have fun ;-)
[15:24] < hackbard> danke :)
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[15:47] < Mike1> moin all
[16:09] < esden> morning
[16:09] < Mike1> hi esden
[16:09] < Mike1> how are you today?
[16:09] < esden> good thanks ... 10 hours sleep are ok ;-)
[16:09] < esden> and you ?
[16:10] < Mike1> i am ok too 6 hours of sleep can do miracles too :)
[16:12] < esden> hehe ... I know ... ;-)
[16:12] < Mike1> :)
[16:12] < esden> but these are lost hours ... if you ask me ...
[16:13] < esden> but one needs it ... >_<
[16:13] < Mike1> yeah i know
[16:13] < esden> hmm ... clifford is not here ... >_<
[16:13]   esden was too stupid to send the patch yesterday >_<
[16:13] < esden> terrible ...
[16:13] < Mike1> why?
[16:14] < esden> I have not attached it ...
[16:14] < Mike1> hehe
[16:15] < Mike1> so just sent the mail again with the patch attached
[16:16] < esden> already done it ...
[16:17] < Mike1> then why are you so concerned?
[16:19] < esden> hmm ... I think I have sent it ... I will see if I get a reply ... "applied" or "you forgot to attach it once more"
[16:19] < Mike1> esden just hold on he's probable as usaul busy
[16:19] < Mike1> usual*
[16:20] < Mike1> but if you are really stressed you can just give him a call :)
[16:23] < esden> hehe ... yes ... requesting a irc query by phone ... my next book ... will appear at orilly
[16:24] < th> *g*
[16:25] < esden> hi th
[16:26] < rolla> hallo th
[16:29] < [anders]> moin Mike1
[16:29] < Mike1> God mordon [anders]!
[16:29] < Mike1> :)
[16:29] < [anders]> God morgon Mike1, sovit gott? :)
[16:30] < Mike1> good u?
[16:30] < [anders]> Not bad, but to little.. I am tired today.. Got the e-mail?
[16:30] < Mike1> [anders]: happy b-day to your gf
[16:31] < Mike1> [anders]: yes i got it
[16:31] < [anders]> Mike1: thanks, I'll tell her that.. :)
[16:31] < Mike1> i made a copy of rock-private and made rock-gnome2
[16:31] < Mike1> so you will be having both in ur rsync dir
[16:32] < Mike1> [anders]: so we can keep as you said different trees with gnome versions
[16:32] < [anders]> oh, okay.. so you have copied things about and when I down next time I'll get two dirs of things? :)
[16:33] < Mike1> yes
[16:33] < Mike1> i have not upload anything on it yet
[16:33] < Mike1> but i will later today
[16:33] < [anders]> ok.. I'm just downing it now to see what I get.. :)
[16:33] -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
[16:33] < Mike1> also the will be a little changelog file in the base dir so we both can know what the othe ris doing
[16:33] < armijn> re
[16:34]   [anders] is spinning the stage 3 in the provate tree at the moment... it's building qt at the moment and no errors so far..
[16:34] < Mike1> [anders]: no need to download no there is nothing on it
[16:34] < Mike1> re armijn
[16:34] < armijn> hiya
[16:35] < Mike1> [anders]: note that the changelog file must be edited by hand
[16:35] < [anders]> Mike1: ah, ok.. I thought you said you had done two trees..
[16:35] < [anders]> Mike1: yeah, not a problem.. I know how vim works.. ;-)
[16:35] < Mike1> [anders]: yes i made it but i have not upload it from my workstation to the server :)
[16:35] < armijn> vim...
[16:35] < [anders]> Mike1: aahh.. that makes sense to me now.. :) Silly me.. :-D
[16:36] < [anders]> moin armijn
[16:36] < armijn> moin?
[16:36] < [anders]> uhm, hello, tjena, yo.. :)
[16:36] < Mike1> [anders]: i thought you were into emacs
[16:36] < armijn> emacs?
[16:36] < [anders]> Mike1: I am, which is why I use vimacs.. :)
[16:36] < huebi> re
[16:37] < huebi> moin Mike1 esden armijn
[16:37] < Mike1> re huebi :)
[16:37] < [anders]> moin huebi
[16:37] < huebi> esden: Did you get the packet?
[16:37] < Mike1> armijn: so you are into making questions today?
[16:37] < huebi> hi [anders]
[16:37] < armijn> mike1: questions?
[16:37] < armijn> :)
[16:37] < Mike1> lol
[16:37] < armijn> hopefully will get an old PC of a friend...
[16:37] < armijn> will try LFS
[16:38] < Mike1> armijn: sounds like fun
[16:38] < Mike1> huebi: did you get to do the sparc report?
[16:38] < esden> huebi: not yet ...
[16:38] < huebi> Mike1: no not yet
[16:38] < armijn> argh, so little time, so much to do...
[16:39] < Mike1> [anders]: i will make some work around then i will upload it and sent you an email
[16:39] < armijn> does the alpha port already "work"?
[16:39] < armijn> or at least produce a workable system?
[16:39] < Mike1> huebi: perhaps if you and armijn help me a little bit i can do it as well
[16:39] < huebi> armijn: No. esden did not fix qt
[16:40] < huebi> Mike1: good idea. Do it and ask what you need.
[16:40] < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. Looking forward to that. :) I will see if I have time to do anything later tonight, probably not. Tomorrow I should have time however.
[16:40] < armijn> I think there's still some problems with SILO
[16:40] < armijn> and X
[16:40] < armijn> but I don't give a ***'
[16:40] < armijn> about X that is
[16:40] < armijn> argh, too hot
[16:40] < Mike1> [anders]: sounds good to me :), btw excellent work on those scripts :)
[16:41] < armijn> next week I will install GenToo
[16:41] < Mike1> armijn: so far the system gets build but silo brakes
[16:41] < [anders]> Mike1: you mean I am good with the delete key.... ;-) All I did was to tweak Build-All and it was huebi that told me where to look to do the tweaking.. :)
[16:42] < Mike1> and the have been not work around X right?
[16:42] < armijn> mike1: well, ehr, yeah, kinda...
[16:42] < armijn> mike1: and we need a better kernel config
[16:42] < Mike1> armijn: was the dietlibc issue fixed already? i havent get much work on the port lately
[16:42] < armijn> those are the major problems
[16:42] < armijn> dietlibc on sparc?
[16:43] < armijn> we don't even use that
[16:43] < huebi> armijn: rene proposed to fix it before he left to Denmark. Now there is no working kernel configuration system.
[16:43] < armijn> huebi: he's not working on 1.5
[16:43] < huebi> armijn: But he proposed it.
[16:43] < armijn> to use it in 1.5?
[16:43] < Mike1> so anyways the majors problems are that the kernel config is not working properly
[16:43] < armijn> mike1: and SILO
[16:44] < armijn> the major problem is SILO
[16:44] < Mike1> armijn: yeah proposed it for 1.5
[16:44] < huebi> ripclaw wanted to fix SILO
[16:44] < armijn> well, I don't think it is really a good idea to use dietlibc in 1.5
[16:44] < armijn> huebi: ripclaw wants many things
[16:44] < huebi> armijn: ACK
[16:46] < armijn> huebi: sent packet out to me?
[16:46] < armijn> as well?
[16:47] < [anders]> dietlibc is something we can try and work on to incorporate later in 1.6.x
[16:47] < huebi> armijn: Yes, I sent it.
[16:47] < armijn> cool
[16:47] < armijn> finally :)
[16:47] < huebi> [anders]: ACK
[16:47] < [anders]> if we really want it that is..
[16:47] < armijn> well, why would we want it to?
[16:48] < Mike1> [anders]: that would be cool
[16:48] < Mike1> but i think this have to be done for 1.6.1 or so
[16:48] < armijn> I mean, what makes it so specia?
[16:48] < Mike1> huebi: how come everyone gets packets and not me :(
[16:49] < armijn> and if we do it, why incorporate it in 1.6.x and not in 1.5 (which is the development tree)?
[16:49] < armijn> mike1: well, you have to be really nice for huebi
[16:49] < armijn> if you know what I mean...
[16:49] < armijn> like "nice"
[16:49] < esden> ahh climatization is something really good
[16:49] < esden> hi armijn
[16:49] < Mike1> armijn: because if we keep adding features on 1.5 is going to take for ever to stabilize
[16:49] < armijn> hi esden
[16:50] < armijn> mike1: so, no dietlibc in 1.6 then
[16:50] < [anders]> 1.6.0 should still use Gnome 1.4 and glibc.. We can modify things into 1.6.1 and/or 1.6.2
[16:50] < Mike1> armijn: not for 1.6.0
[16:50] < armijn> hmm...
[16:51] < huebi> Mike1: You want a big packet. That often needs longer.
[16:51] < huebi> *g*
[16:51] < armijn> so, I still don't get why we'd need dietlibc...
[16:51] < armijn> +it
[16:51] < [anders]> if I have understood things right, for 1.6.1 we want Gnome2... we could leave dietlibc for 1.6.2
[16:51] < huebi> armijn: full X, mozilla on one diskette
[16:51] < Mike1> armijn: [anders]and i are currently working on a separe tree with gnome2 if we get it to work before 1.6 is release it will be added but no promisses yet
[16:51] < [anders]> armijn: space? glibc is rather large
[16:52] < esden> dietlibc in 1.6 tree ? what for ?
[16:52] < armijn> yeah, glibc is large...but so is Mozilla ;-)
[16:52] < armijn> and GNOME
[16:52] < huebi> armijn: and KDE
[16:52] < Mike1> hehe
[16:52] < armijn> esden: i need alpha stuff
[16:52] < esden> I willl _NOT_ get dietlibc working in 1.6 forget it !
[16:52] < Mike1> huebi: i would settle with a small packet :)
[16:53] < Mike1> esden: looks like you kind of hate dietlibc since the last couple of days
[16:53] < esden> armijn: moment ... I have the iso here
[16:53] < Mike1> :)
[16:53] < [anders]> esden: what is required to get it working? masses of patches to the packages being built?
[16:54] < esden> [anders]: not only masses of patches ... but the whole build system must be able to deal with the dietlibc parameters
[16:54] < Mike1> armijn: is the kernel config issue for both sparc and sparc64 userland?
[16:55] < esden> [anders]: you can some day take a look at target/dietlibc in the 1.7 tree ...
[16:55] < esden> [anders]: it is really a mess
[16:55] < [anders]> esden: so you are saying we should leave dietlibc out of 1.6.x completely.. To forget about it?
[16:55] < esden> but I get it running in 1.7 but I will not do the work twice ... and porting it to 1.6 is like porting the whole build system of 1.7 to 1.6
[16:56] < esden> [anders]: yes the best thing is to forget about dietlibc in 1.6 ... or you do it by yourself because I will not do it
[16:58] < huebi> esden: What about QT on alpha?
[16:59] < huebi> (another question disappearing in the endles universe...)
[16:59] < esden> huebi: hmm ... I will do it some time ... what do you need it for ? o_O
[17:00] < huebi> esden: KDE
[17:00] < huebi> I will do it some time <- 2017 or even later?
[17:00] < esden> huebi: urgh ... WHO NEEDS THE KDE CRAP ... ARGH
[17:01] < esden> noo ... I will do in in the next weeks but not before the meeting in vienna
[17:01] < huebi> esden: People who like a full featured desktop.
[17:01] < [anders]> esden: no problem. I can understand the problem a bit better now..
[17:01] < esden> I have a full featured desktop and do not use kde ...
[17:01]   esden <-- alien ???
[17:01] < huebi> esden: So it's you why 1.6 is haltet on alpha?
[17:02] < huebi> *esdenaerger*
[17:02] < esden> huebi: I _WILL_ do it just after vienna ... *verzweifel*
[17:02] < huebi> esden: Stop sleeping and do it now, please.
[17:03] < esden> huebi: ;_;
[17:03] < huebi> esden: Don't waste time with living just code.
[17:03] < Mike1> esden: yeah already sleep 10 hours thats enought for the rest of the week
[17:03] < Mike1> :)
[17:05] < esden> Mike1: yes right ...
[17:06]   Mike1 getting coffee and a sandwish
[17:10] < armijn> mike1: kernel config? userland?
[17:10] < armijn> esden: ah, will you put the ISO (bootable) somwehere?
[17:10] < armijn> +e
[17:10] < esden> I can not promise that it is bootable ... but I hope so ...
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[17:26]   armijn installing CygWin
[17:36] < huebi> esden: Where is the problem with testing if it's bootable?
[17:37] < armijn> he just has one type of alpha
[17:37]   Mike1 back from breakfast
[17:37]   [anders] is listening to Massive Attack - Karmakoma
[17:37] < esden> huebi: no cdrom ... ?
[17:37]   esden waiting still for the packet from huebi
[17:37]   Mike1 too
[17:37]   esden -> nicotine
[17:38] < huebi> esden: Take a microscope and make a bit test then. *g*
[17:39] < th> huebi: he would need to check two reed-solomon codes by hand then
[17:39] < armijn> wow, cygwin has kinda finished
[17:39] < huebi> esden: Packets for Aliens must cue up in front of the wormhole to get passed to the Receiver
[17:39] < Mike1> armijn: cygwin? finished?
[17:41] < armijn> yeah, my install of cygwin
[17:53] < huebi> th: It's like counting sand at the beach.
[17:53] < th> huebi: exactly
[17:54] < huebi> better fixing qt in the time of waiting for a CDROM
[17:54] < th> huebi: i'm searching a number of a girl which is a good friend of mine. perhaps she has some time for me
[17:56] < armijn> hmm...girls :)
[17:57] < huebi> th: It's the wrong number if it starts with 0190-...
[17:57] < huebi> armijn: Yep!
[17:57] < th> huebi: of course not
[18:01] < th> the number was the right one. she would have time for me on friday :-/
[18:03] < esden> re
[18:03] < esden> huebi: kk ... will interpret the binarydato in my brain
[18:03]   esden porting rocklinux to his brain
[18:04] < huebi> esden: You should not interpret the Matrix srceensaver.
[18:04] < huebi> esden: too many Mathidas in there
[18:07] < esden> huebi: mathilda is only grazing/browsing there
[18:07] < armijn> heh...set the useragent in your browser to "mathilda"
[18:08]   armijn getting some beer
[18:08] < esden> huh ... leo.org says that grazing is a synonym to browse ... coll
[18:08] < armijn> bbr
[18:08]   esden did not know that ...
[18:08] < esden> prost armijn
[18:15] < [anders]> <- afk - going home, having nice evening with gf. Her birthday today..
[18:15]   Mike1 away coding
[18:15] < huebi> [anders]: Have a great evening with her.
[18:16] < armijn> ok, got myself two beers...
[18:18] < armijn> should be enough for the next ten minutes :)
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[19:00] < owl> hi
[19:06] < huebi> hi owl
[19:08] < owl> moin huebi
[19:29] < rolla> grr
[19:30] < rolla> drock is all kinds of broken
[19:30] < huebi> rolla: ack
[19:30] < rolla> I thought it was stabel ?
[19:30] < huebi> usable != stable.
[19:31] < huebi> That's one reason 1.6.0 still needs some time
[19:31] < rolla> ah ;)
[19:31] < rolla> heck the thing can't even find all of it packages
[19:36] < rolla> what is the name/ip of the fast mirror for the rock ?
[19:36] < huebi> iso.rocklinux.de
[19:37] < armijn> break early, break often
[19:38] < rolla> thanks
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[19:38] < Mike1> re
[19:43] < blindcoder> good evening everyone
[19:43] < owl> hi blindcoder
[19:43]   armijn expecting heavy showers
[19:43] < Mike1> armijn: showers?
[19:43] < huebi> armijn: Here they stopped
[19:43] < armijn> rain
[19:43] < Mike1> rain?
[19:43] < Mike1> *g
[19:43] < armijn> huebi: yeah, all coming to .nl now
[19:43] < armijn> mike1?
[19:44] < Mike1> armijn: jk
[19:44] < armijn> jk?
[19:44] < armijn> :)
[19:45] < armijn> funny...at this moment they're playing "Rain" (Status Quo) on the radio
[19:49] < armijn> but it didn't start raining...yet
[19:52] < Mike1> more funny it just started raining here
[19:52] < armijn> yeah, but I don't care about that!!!
[19:52] < armijn> :)
[19:53] < Mike1> .
[19:55] < armijn> just kidding
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[20:01] < tsa> tag
[20:01] < owl> moin tsa.
[20:01] < tsa> hi owl - kaffee?
[20:01] < huebi> moin tsa
[20:02] < tsa> hi huebi
[20:02] < huebi> tsa: No, I think owl must be a man.
[20:02] < tsa> ah, i see.
[20:02] < tsa> how do you know?
[20:03] < huebi> Does not want to make coffee at all.
[20:03] < tsa> hm .. i see.
[20:03] < tsa> perhaps owl even has a girlfriend.
[20:04]   owl hits tsa with her notebook!
[20:04] < tsa> oh, your pink notebook!
[20:05] < owl> yeah. of course. i changed the color of it today. :P
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[20:09] < ripclaw> helo
[20:09] < tsa> hi ripclaw
[20:09] < armijn> helo
[20:09] < owl> hi ripclaw
[20:09]   ripclaw is dead-tired
[20:09] < armijn> so what else is new?
[20:09] < tsa> hehe
[20:10] < tsa> ripclaw: you're getting old, it seems.
[20:10] < tsa> ;)
[20:10] < armijn> instead of complaining he'd better start fixing SILO :)
[20:11] < huebi> armijn: ACK. hehe
[20:11] < tsa> hm...we also still need a fix for owl - she still refuses to make coffee..
[20:12] < WKaibigan> Flower, chocolates and diamonds may work on owl at least ;-)
[20:13] < th> compliments you forgot
[20:13] < WKaibigan> Not expensive enough :-)
[20:15] < huebi> What else does raise the performance in making coffee?
[20:16] < th> oh it's just a performance problem
[20:16] < th> ?
[20:16] < armijn> ripclaw fell asleep
[20:16] < tsa> no, owl doesn't make coffee at all.
[20:17] < tsa> armijn: hehe...
[20:17] < tsa> armijn:
[20:17] < tsa> psst...
[20:17] < tsa> RIPCLAW, WAKE UP!
[20:17] < tsa> ;-)
[20:18] < tsa> hm... let's just wait an hour and see what happens.
[20:18] < th> tsa: you should really read esden's new book
[20:18] < huebi> Perhaps there is a man missing in her life as a catalytic converter for making coffee?
[20:18] < tsa> esden's new book?
[20:18] < th> huebi: possibly
[20:18] < huebi> owl? Is that right?
[20:19] < th> tsa: "Establishing IRC-Queries by phone-call"
[20:19] < th> tsa: going to be an o'reilly one.
[20:19] < tsa> huebi: do you want to volunteer?
[20:19] < tsa> hehe
[20:19] < huebi> tsa: I'm very sure what my wife thinks about that.
[20:20] < huebi> NO
[20:20] < huebi> NEVER
[20:20] < tsa> ;)
[20:20] < tsa> huebi: so we'll have to find somebody else.
[20:20] < tsa> any suggestions?
[20:21] < huebi> tsa: Yes. armijn
[20:21] < armijn> wa?
[20:21] < tsa> ah, ok..
[20:21] < huebi> armijn: You are the catalytic converter of owl to get her making coffee
[20:22] < tsa> armijn: have fun ;)
[20:22] < armijn> her?
[20:22] < huebi> armijn: and coffee
[20:22] < huebi> ;-)
[20:23] < armijn> whom does she belong to?
[20:23] < tsa> armijn: you.
[20:23] < tsa> from now on forever.
[20:23] < armijn> she's german right?
[20:23] < th> ack
[20:24] < tsa> that's not a problem. you don't have to allow her to speak.
[20:24] < owl> tsa: shut up!
[20:24] < tsa> we're just interested in coffee ;)
[20:24] < armijn> I don't like coffee
[20:24] < armijn> hmm...pictures?
[20:25] < owl> armijn: so, what do you like? pills which contains caffeine? ;P
[20:25] < armijn> "I like to watch"
[20:25] < armijn> I quitted caffeine
[20:25] < owl> armijn: tststststs...
[20:25] < armijn> because now, whenever I need it, just one can of cola suffices...
[20:25]   th needs an command-line audio mixer that compiles on ppc
[20:25] < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/owl_nude_pics.html
[20:26] < armijn> ooh :)
[20:26] < tsa> i'll get killed by her, anyway..
[20:26] < armijn> tasty :)
[20:27] < armijn> but no pictures?
[20:27] < armijn> awww..
[20:27] < armijn> now my day is ruined...
[20:28] < owl> armijn: hahaha! i'm not a nude! forget to see pictures of me. you will never see them!
[20:28] < armijn> not even normal pictures?
[20:29] < owl> armijn: _no_ pictures. no normal pictures. no other pictures
[20:29] < armijn> ah, you're one of those people...
[20:29] < esden> tsa: Not Found
[20:29] < esden> The requested URL /owl_nude_pics.html was not found on this server.
[20:30] < armijn> daylight isn't *that* bad you know...
[20:30] < esden> tsa: :-(
[20:30] < esden> hi owl
[20:30] < armijn> neither is a social life...
[20:30] < owl> hi esden.
[20:30] < armijn> which reminds me...I've to get one :)
[20:30] < huebi> armijn: With owl, of course.
[20:31] < owl> huebi: shut up!
[20:31] < armijn> I will not move to germany...
[20:31] < armijn> few days in berlin (CCC) was enough for one year
[20:31]   owl remarks, that she is already fallen in love. with the sw33t asus notebook she "met" yesterday :P
[20:32] < huebi> owl: I wouldn't say anything if you would serve the human mankind coffee.
[20:32] < armijn> unless owl turns out to be a nice blonde vamp...
[20:32] < armijn> or brunette...
[20:32] < armijn> or a redhead...
[20:32] < armijn> but probably not, because:
[20:32] < owl> armijn: hahaha! you're dreaming.
[20:32] < armijn> A - she's on IRC at this time of the day
[20:32] < huebi> and makes coffee
[20:33] < armijn> B - she uses ROCK Linux
[20:33] < armijn> (I guess)
[20:33] < armijn> no one who uses ROCK Linux can be pretty
[20:33] < tsa> hehe
[20:33] < armijn> all the ROCK developers I met so far are butt ugly
[20:33] < armijn> including myself
[20:33] < esden> armijn: she is not using rock ... she is using windows ...
[20:33] < owl> armijn: you're right. i'm not pretty.
[20:33] < armijn> even worse...
[20:33] < tsa> armijn: typical geek problem, i guess.
[20:34] < armijn> yeah...
[20:34] < esden> armijn: I am not butt ugly ;-)
[20:34] < armijn> there's only one solution...more beer...
[20:34] < owl> esden: on all of my computers i also have ROCK installed!!!
[20:34] < esden> armijn: talk only for yourself ;-)
[20:34] < armijn> esden: yes you are...you just think you aren't
[20:34] < esden> armijn: ok ... good to know
[20:34] < armijn> esden: sorry if I crushed your self confidence there
[20:34] < huebi> esden: You're an alien with long toungh. You're not in the human beauty contest.
[20:34] < th> esden: gimme a ppc-audio-mixer!
[20:35] < tsa> armijn:
[20:35] < tsa> -owl- VERSION mIRC v6.01 Khaled Mardam-Bey
[20:35] < tsa> doesn't look like ROCK Linux to me...
[20:35] < th> tsa: wine?
[20:35] < owl> tsa: eumex!!!
[20:35] < armijn> but she does use ROC
[20:35] < armijn> +K
[20:35] < armijn> so, she's ugly
[20:35] < huebi> owl: make a quick binary hack for it on rocklinux.
[20:35] < armijn> sorry about that.
[20:36] < armijn> darn, beer shortage...
[20:36] < tsa> owl: do you actually use ROCK Linux?
[20:36] < huebi> <- 38 bottles of beer left.
[20:36] < tsa> or SuSE?
[20:36] < huebi> tsa: SuXE
[20:36] < th> DO NOT CALL THIS NAME
[20:36] < owl> tsa: yeah. on k0y0r0, my main workstation
[20:36] < armijn> huebi: what kinda name?
[20:36] < th> PLEEASE
[20:36] < th> "suse"
[20:36] < th> :-/
[20:37] < armijn> I installed SuSE a week ago...
[20:37] < armijn> actually, worked on it a few minutes ago
[20:37] < th> i lost suse yesterday :-(
[20:37] < Mike1> owl how do you make a cross build for ppc over the rock Build-Cluster?
[20:37]   Mike1 testing owl
[20:37] < armijn> huebi: ehr, beer that is
[20:37] < huebi> armijn: SuXE!
[20:37] < armijn> d'oh!
[20:37] < tsa> Mike1: hehe
[20:37] < huebi> Grohe Export.
[20:37] < armijn> mixing things...
[20:37] < owl> mike1: i'n using rock, not coding!
[20:37] < armijn> Gross Export?
[20:37] < Mike1> owl: thats not coding
[20:37] < huebi> no. Grohe is a local brewery.
[20:37] < armijn> just finished my 2nd can of "Wieckse Witte"
[20:38] < owl> mike1: bla
[20:38] < armijn> huebi: then why is it "export"?
[20:38] < Mike1> owl: blo
[20:38] < armijn> blow?
[20:39] < tsa> armijn: was that a request?
[20:39]   tsa waiting for owl's answer.. ;-)
[20:39] < Mike1> armijn: your asking owl for a blow?
[20:39]   owl says nothing anymore
[20:39] < tsa> Mike1: it seems so.
[20:41] < huebi> armijn: Export is a type of beer like Pilserner or stout.
[20:41] < th> stout? you mean stdout?
[20:41] < huebi> Pilsener
[20:41] < tsa> th: ;)
[20:41] < th> a beer called stdout?
[20:41] < th> strange
[20:41] < huebi> Guinness = stout.
[20:41] < armijn> well, export here is what we ehr...export
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[20:42] < tsa> hi plfiorini
[20:42] < th> stdin would be a better name for a beer
[20:42] < Mike1> ciao plfiorini
[20:42] < th> hi plfiorini
[20:42] < plfiorini> hi
[20:42] < plfiorini> hi Mike1 th and tsa
[20:42] < WKaibigan> Export is what they call it in order to charge more :-)
[20:42] < plfiorini> Mike1: have you looked this www.it.gnome.org/seegnome.html
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[20:45] < esden> th: what do you need a ppc mixer for ?? o_O
[20:45] < Mike1> yes i have
[20:46] < Mike1> plfiorini: yes i have
[20:46] < th> esden: my dbox2
[20:46] < esden> armijn: i had never a selfconfidence that this could break ;-)
[20:46] < armijn> esden: exactly
[20:46] < esden> huebi: hehe ... I am an alian ... you are a human ... I thing that it is much better to be an alian ;-)
[20:47] < armijn> you know, my guess is...actually owl is just lurking on IRC to "score"
[20:47] < armijn> I just feel that...
[20:47] < esden> th: hmm ... sorry ... none here ... I need first a ppc box
[20:47] < armijn> or maybe it's the beer...that's another possibility
[20:47] < plfiorini> Mike1: good
[20:47] < huebi> esden: Alien have to pay higher taxes on eearth.
[20:47] < esden> huebi: aha ... I never paid taxes till now ...
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[20:48] < codeq> hi
[20:48] < tsa> hi codeq
[20:48] < huebi> esden: you camouflage as a studen from Poland.
[20:48] < armijn> yeah, I never trusted the polish
[20:48] < armijn> I mean, look at their notation!
[20:48] < armijn> all reversed!
[20:49] < huebi> armijn: so esden will be payed taxes
[20:51] < armijn> that's what he *thinks*
[20:51] < armijn> ok, am off
[20:51] < armijn> cu
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[20:52] < th> esden: ok. aumix just works fine
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[20:54] < esden> huebi: pssst !!
[20:54] < tsa> hm...
[20:54] < tsa> armijn is gone.
[20:55] < tsa> esden: do you want to have owl?
[20:55] < huebi> esden: to spend your tax
[20:55] < owl> tsa: *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh*
[20:56] < tsa> huebi: did he just say "yes"?
[20:56] < huebi> tsa: Sure. That's the default.
[20:58] < tsa> ok.
[20:58] < tsa> esden: first, you'll have to show her how to make coffee.
[20:59] < tsa> hm.
[20:59] < tsa> esden: did you just die?
[21:00] < tsa> huebi: what now?
[21:01] < huebi> esden just controls his new star ship: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/NCC-1864.jpg
[21:02] < tsa> lol.
[21:03] < huebi> tsa: he really needs it now. The last time he was driving a car the last thing he remebers is this: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/speed-limit.jpg
[21:04] < owl> lol :)
[21:05] < tsa> *G**
[21:06] < huebi> can you see the container for coffee bean on to of the helicopter? It's obvious that it is a womans aircraft.
[21:06] < huebi> +s +p
[21:06] < tsa> haha
[21:06] < owl> huebi: what are you thinking about the whole day - coffee?! incredible
[21:07] < huebi> rotor with integrated coffee mill
[21:08] < owl> *gggg*
[21:11]   owl currently listens to cannibal corpse - i will kill you...
[21:11] < owl> huebi... :PPPP
[21:11] < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-31.07.02-004/ <- YES!
[21:13] < huebi> owl: I see your long alien toungh. Now I know you belong to esden
[21:13] < esden> huebi: your information is protty old ... this ship is pretty old ...
[21:14] < huebi> esden: I also didn't see you with a new car.
[21:14] < esden> huebi: what car are you driving ? ... have you checked if it is still where you left it ?
[21:15] < huebi> yes.
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[21:15] < esden> good ... ;-)
[21:15] < owl> huebi: never.
[21:16] < esden> huebi: are you also sure that it is not a hologram what you saw ?
[21:16] < huebi> esden: Sag' doch einfach: "Vier fahn Golf!"
[21:17] < huebi> esden: Absolutly sure. polish holograms don't hit the car make and alien holograms are only flyable
[21:19] < Mike1> can anyone please give an example of how to export a variable from a html file to a shell script?
[21:19] < esden> huebi: your information is really old ... *headshake*
[21:20] < th> Mike1: bash?
[21:20] < Mike1> th yes
[21:20] < th> Mike1: so you have a bash CGI-script?
[21:21] < Mike1> th thats what i am trying to do
[21:21] < th> Mike1: there is a difference in doing so between http-POST and http-GET
[21:21] < th> Mike1: talking about <FORM>? or just about ?foo=bar added to url?
[21:21] < Mike1> th but i need to read $1 and $2 from a form on a html file
[21:22] < th> Mike1: a form. ok. so it depends on your method="xyz" setting
[21:22] < th> Mike1: is it get or post?
[21:22] < Mike1> post
[21:23] < th> post can be read on stdin
[21:23] < Mike1> then i need to run my shell script get the ouput back to html
[21:23] < th> get can be found in environment
[21:23] < Mike1> +t
[21:23] < th> Mike1: therefore you need to sent content-type header
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[21:27] < esden> hmm ... now all this stuff here gets pretty messy ... :-/
[21:27] < Mike1> hehe
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[21:30] < esden> hmm ... /me missing clifford
[21:32] < Mike1> esden: call him :)
[21:34] < esden> *yawn*
[21:34]   fake is laughing
[21:34] < fake> hi there ;))
[21:34] -!- angel|of|chaos is now known as angel^shower
[21:34] < fake> women are really..... really....
[21:35] < fake> it's undescribable
[21:35] < angel^shower> <-- thinks that fake is right
[21:35] < fake> it's fun watchting women cat-fighting each other as long as you're not involved
[21:35] < fake> hehe
[21:35] < angel^shower> *lol*
[21:35] < angel^shower> yep
[21:36] < fake> *rolf*
[21:36] < fake> man ich schmeiss mich so weg
[21:36] < angel^shower> wobei ?
[21:36] < fake> das is besser als jede comedy
[21:37] < fake> maaaan....
[21:38] < fake> real-life-anime
[21:38] < esden> hi fake !!!
[21:38] < esden> fake: women ??? o_O
[21:40] < fake> GIRLS!
[21:40] < fake> *ARGHH*
[21:40] < esden> girls ?? what girls ?
[21:40] < fake> esden: i wonder what'd happen if you lock up tora, drachi and kawaii in one room for a finite chunk of time
[21:41] < fake> say, 48 hrs
[21:41] < esden> urgh ... you then open the door and you see only ... _RED_
[21:41] < esden> fake: are they @ nos ?
[21:43] < tsa> re.
[21:43] < rolla> fake
[21:44]   tsa finished writing invoices.
[21:44] < fake> esden: i'd feel sorry for the room
[21:44] < fake> esden: no.
[21:44] < fake> hi rolla !
[21:44] < fake> hi tsa
[21:44] < tsa> hi fake.
[21:44] < tsa> fake: want to have owl?
[21:45] < th> fake: has to work on iga. do NOT disturb him
[21:45] < fake> he he he
[21:45] < fake> tsa: eh?
[21:46] < owl> fake: tsa is insane today. don't wonder.
[21:46] < fake> th: i didn't even start yet -_-
[21:46]   fake feels guilty
[21:46] < fake> olw: that's like he always acts, right?
[21:46] < th> fake: *slap*
[21:46] < th> fake: get to work
[21:46] < tsa> fake: you don't have to. we (huebi and /me) decided that owl needs a man who teaches her how to make coffee.
[21:47] < tsa> huebi was not interested, armijn left and esden died by shock. it's your turn now.
[21:48] < owl> tsa: thanks. now i feel much better.
[21:48]   fake can't make any coffee
[21:48] < fake> th: i'll do, tomorrow. i finally finished cleaning up my hard drive(s)
[21:49] < tsa> fake: the idea is that owl will make the coffee for you.
[21:49]   owl will never do it.
[21:49] < th> fake: and after getting iga to work you should read `man rm`
[21:49] < huebi> fake: Now it's your chance to get a coffee machine who also cleans up the fscking kitchen.
[21:50] < fake> th: no. man cdrecord :P
[21:50] < fake> huebi: l33t!
[21:50] < fake> tsa: but i can't teach her.
[21:51] < fake> "Auf alten raedern lernt man das fahren"
[21:51] < tsa> fake: you still can tell her to RTFM..
[21:51] < huebi> fake: teaching is impossible. Force her!
[21:51] < fake> huebi: you mean with BDSM and stuff? *harr*
[21:52]   fake imagines owl in BDSM outfit
[21:52] < owl> ./ignore fake *argh*
[21:53] < huebi> https://www.imi.co.il/ <- very good and approved stuff to force sbd to do/be sth.
[21:53] < owl> ./ignore huebi
[21:53] < owl> ./ignore tsa
[21:53] < tsa> ;)
[21:53] < huebi> owl: /ignor owl is missing
[21:53] < owl> huebi: why should i ignore myself?
[21:53] < fake> huebi: you can't ignore yourself. i tried.
[21:54] < tsa> fake: lol
[21:54] < huebi> https://www.imi.co.il/ <- very well proven as know from the daily "CNN-Ad-Show"
[21:54] < huebi> +n
[21:55] < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ.
[21:55] < fake> *klick*
[21:55] < fake> *ROFL*
[21:55] < owl> *argh*
[21:56] < fake> he huebi, you're in a good modd today, eh? ;-)
[21:56]   owl destroyed her brain.
[21:56] < fake> s,modd,mood,
[21:56] < huebi> fake: yep, hehe.
[21:56] < th> hmmm can i select from multiple tables (not joining) with one SELECT?
[21:57] < fake> yes
[21:57] < th> how?
[21:57] < th> imagine a table foo and a table bar
[21:57] < fake> SELECT foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo
[21:57] < th> no that will result in a join
[21:57] < fake> FROM foo,bar
[21:58] < fake> a simple left join, but that doesn't matter
[21:58] < th> with tuple (foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo) in each row of result
[21:58] < fake> foo.bar AS foobar, bar.foo AS barfoo
[21:59] < th> i want to have rows with pairs of (tablename, value)
[21:59] < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/daa-31.07.02-000/ <- They have now PCs only coffee machines *g*
[21:59] < huebi> -w
[21:59] < fake> foo.bar AS bar.foo ?
[21:59] < th> ouhm?
[22:00] < th> ok.
[22:00] < th> again
[22:00] < th> i have two tables
[22:00] < th> first table is foo, 2nd is bar
[22:00] < th> foo has a column foo
[22:00] < tsa> *giggle*
[22:00] < th> bar has a column bar
[22:00]   tsa ordering submachine gun
[22:00] < th> i want to do a magic select with the following result
[22:01] < th> the result shall be the same as i get from "select "foo", foo.foo from foo; select "bar", bar.bar from bar"
[22:02] < fake> select "foo", foo.foo, "bar", bar.bar FROM foo, bar
[22:02] < fake> ?
[22:02] < fake> or do you mean 2 separate tables?
[22:03] < th> that would result in a 4-tuple resultset
[22:03] < th> i want a 2-tuple result-set
[22:03] < fake> th: that dowsn't work
[22:03] < th> fake: so i have to do 2 selects?
[22:03] < fake> ( how should it? )
[22:04] < fake> yes.
[22:04] < huebi> tsa: https://www.shooting-center.de/de.htm <- better for kitchen use
[22:05] -!- angel^shower is now known as angel|of|chaos
[22:07] < fake> das is besser: https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36.html
[22:08] < fake> https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36-40mmgranatw.jpg
[22:08] < fake> son granatwerfer unten dran, und schon is ruhe im karton
[22:08] < owl> fake: wen willst du denn umbringen? den huebi?
[22:09] < fake> noch.
[22:09]   fake zeigt sein "Ich schiesse nur auf Frauen"-T-Shirt her
[22:09] < owl> danke.
[22:10] < owl> ich habe doch gar nix gemacht... :-/ und schon werde ich erschossen. finde ich jetzt ganz freundlich ...
[22:10] < fake> du bist weiblich. das is grund genug.
[22:10] < owl> danke.
[22:10] < fake> bitte.
[22:10] < huebi> fake: ACK
[22:11] < tsa> hehe
[22:13] < fake> fuer die kueche finde ich das am besten: https://www.heckler-koch.de/html/german/behoerden/06_grenademachinegun/06_01_index.html
[22:13] < fake> duerfte bis ins wohnzimmer reichen
[22:14] < fake> Angetrieben durch den Verschluß, werden die gegurteten Granaten durch eine gleichmäßige Vor- und Rückwärtsbewegung des Verschlusses sauber zugeführt. Dabei kann die Zuführung ohne Werkzeuge von der linken auf die rechte Seite verlegt werden.
[22:14] < huebi> https://users.intercomm.com/agw/pictures.html <- fuer'n Garten.
[22:15] < huebi> https://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles_82A1.html <- even better
[22:16] < fake> huebi: snipern ruled!
[22:17] < fake>     * Retail Price $7,300
[22:17] < tsa> nice but expensive.
[22:17] < huebi> fake: No real sniper rifles. But if there is a 1m thick wall between you and the target there is no problem to hit it.
[22:18] < tsa> owl: if i were you, i'd consider making coffee soon... ;-)
[22:18] < huebi> for use in the whole hose without need to move your ass.
[22:18] < huebi> +u
[22:18] < owl> tsa: no, why should i make coffee.
[22:19] < huebi> owl: 21:55 < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ.
[22:19]   owl hebt den kopf provokativ hin und malt sich 'ne zielscheibe auf den kopf.
[22:19] < huebi> which head?
[22:19] < owl> so. erschiesst mich! :PPP
[22:19] < owl> auf meinen. welche sonst?
[22:19] < huebi> warum?
[22:19]   fake schnappt seine Springfiled '03, laedt durch, zielt, feuert, blut spritzt.
[22:20] < fake> ein zeh weniger ;-)
[22:20] < owl> schlecht.
[22:20] < fake> s,Springfiled,Springfield,
[22:20] < owl> in den kopf habe ich gesagt! verdammt, nie die befehle ausfuehren hier... pah!
[22:20] < owl> warst wohl ned beim bund, eh?
[22:20] < fake> huebi: did you know Heckler&Koch are baknrupt?
[22:20] < huebi> fake erst ziehen und zielen - dann erst schiessen
[22:21] < huebi> fake: No, I didn't.
[22:21]   esden getting a g36 and shooting all femail beingns ;-)
[22:21] < esden> hruaaarrr
[22:21] < fake> owl: vom kopf hast nix gesagt. und befehle erteilst du mir sowieso net
[22:21] < fake> huebi: they designed a new sniper, that was too powerful
[22:21] < owl> fake: lesen will gelernt sein...
[22:21] < fake> chances of death 90% - no matter where you shot you enemy
[22:21] < angel|of|chaos> i ever knowed that you guys are crazy ...
[22:22] < fake> huebi: nerve-shock on impact
[22:22] < esden> angel|of|chaos: that is nothing new ... ;-)
[22:22] < fake> even with "hartkernmunition"
[22:22] < huebi> fake: Jacky Chan sagt immer: "Warum soll ich jemanden mit einem Schuss toeten wenn es auch tausende sein koennen?"
[22:22] < angel|of|chaos> esden: but i thought with more stile *gg*
[22:22] < esden> huebi: because munition costs money ;-)
[22:22] < angel|of|chaos> style even
[22:22] < fake> the genfer convention says the chance of staying alive must be better than 40%
[22:22] < fake> and the bundeswehr doesn't want dead enemies
[22:23] < fake> one injured enemy disables 2 other enemies who have to care about the injured one
[22:23] < huebi> fake: ACK. Airguns are also cool to kill ....
[22:23] < fake> thus, Heckler & Koch are bankrupt
[22:24] < fake> airguns? you mean killing birds? ;-)
[22:24] < fake> ( only the female ones, of course )
[22:25] < huebi> fake: no, humans. Lasts longer..
[22:25] < fake> huebi: you have to hit the... "schlaefen" pretty precisely ?
[22:26] < esden> ahh ...
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[22:26]   esden hitting his *schlaefen*
[22:26] < esden> does not work >_<
[22:27] < huebi> fake: no, not nessesarily
[22:27] < fake> or you have to feed them with the ammo. plumbium is toxic.
[22:27] < tsa> .oO( ripclaw just hit the keyboard with his head, it seems )
[22:27] < fake> esden: mit beiden haenden flach, gleichzeitig fest auf die ohren hauen
[22:28] < fake> !! NICHT !!
[22:28] < tsa> esden: bleistift ins ohr stecken und draufhauen.
[22:28] < fake> tsa: you'll only get disabeld by that
[22:28] < esden> fake: hmm ... warum nicht ?
[22:28] < fake> disabled
[22:28] < esden> tsa: good idea
[22:28] < fake> esden: weil das wirklich verdammt toedlich ist
[22:28] < fake> dauert aber so 2 stunden
[22:28] < esden> fake: das ist guuut !!! *freu*
[22:28] < tsa> c00l.
[22:28] < tsa> folter.
[22:29] < huebi> Luft gewehr dauert 2 Wochen.
[22:29] < fake> huebi: where do you have to shoot?
[22:29]   fake got shot by an airgun pretty often XD
[22:30] < huebi> fake: only on the body - more than 1000 times.
[22:30] < fake> *lol*
[22:31] < fake> huebi: i prefer dying by sugar then
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[22:34] < huebi> fake: A sniper rifle is to human. An Airgun let you know longer that you're going to die - and there is hope not to die...
[22:34] < huebi> till you are dead.
[22:38] < fake> hm... right.
[22:38] < fake> 1000 shots into the stomach
[22:39] < huebi> all over the body. Then an infection...
[22:39] < th> fake: i'd prefer a pizza
[22:40] < fake> th: good idea.
[22:40]   fake making pizza
[22:40] < tsa> fake: would prefer weed cookies.. ;-)
[22:42] < esden> tsa: do you have some ?
[22:42] < tsa> esden: no, currently not.
[22:43] < fake> ha-ha *g*
[22:43] < tsa> would like to, but currently don't have enough supplies..
[22:44]   fake gives tsa a mathilda-steak
[22:44] < tsa> hehe
[22:44] < tsa> thanks, fake
[22:44] < fake> you're welcome
[22:49] < huebi> https://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,135916,00.jpg <- first test flight of esdens new star ship
[22:52] < fake> USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D
[22:52] < fake> HOT ship
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[22:59] < spiketz> hy @all
[23:00] < owl> hi spiketz
[23:00] < spiketz> when i start XFree86 under framebuffer in the left corner the cursor is blinking, how can i remove it?
[23:01] < fake> Option "SWCursor" "true"
[23:01] < fake> in the device section
[23:03] < spiketz> this option doesn't help
[23:04] < spiketz> it's the prompt cursor, which is blinking
[23:05] < fake> aw
[23:06] < fake> no idea.
[23:08]   owl is going to kill the developers of M$-ISWI and installshield. *arghl*
[23:09] < fake> go ahead.
[23:10] < owl> yeah. it's real sh**. and i'm still connected to my company and working with it... damn!
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[23:10] < fake> then stop it
[23:11] < owl> i can't. my TODO is about 10 kilometres long... have to finish this stuff until friday afternoon. and then vacation.
[23:11] < huebi> owl: Work more there. you can't make coffee so work more.
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[23:13] < plfiorini> re
[23:13]   owl makes inserts so much caffeine-pills in the coffee, that huebi dies (if he'll drink it)
[23:14] < fake> owl: that would have to be more coffeine-tablets than thos fitting into the mug
[23:14] < owl> fake: did i tell something about a mug?
[23:15] < fake> owl: the concentration is always the same
[23:15] < owl> a large can of coffee... :PP
[23:15] < owl> oh huebi seems to be dead now.... *vbeg*
[23:15] < fake> you can't solve more than a specific amount of something in a liquid
[23:16] < owl> hm. ok. nevermind
[23:16] < esden> fake: you have to take pure caffein and solve it in water ...
[23:17] < huebi> fake: senceless to try to make her understand it.
[23:17]   owl currently listens to "korn - all my hate" (is related to my job... ) *argh*
[23:17] < owl> huebi: blablabla
[23:18] < huebi> 23:17 < owl> huebi: blablabla <- starts to speak ununderstandable stuff....
[23:18] < esden> be nace to eachother ... >_<
[23:18] < owl> yeah. from now on i can just "speak" InstallScript. damn. :-/
[23:18] < huebi> esden: Ok. I take the big gun.
[23:18] < esden> huebi: goood
[23:18] < owl> esden: i'm always nice.
[23:19] < huebi> owl: Photo, please.
[23:19]   fake takes the BFG1000
[23:21] < fake> iddqd
[23:21] < fake> idkfa
[23:21] < owl> huebi: wait a second. i will publish the URL here.
[23:21] < fake> *BADABUUM*
[23:23] < huebi> * now owl is a "Grillhuehnchen"
[23:23] < owl> https://www.closeup.de/articles/large/690195.jpg  << here's my photo
[23:23] < huebi> owl: I don't believe.
[23:24] < owl> hahaha *vbeg*
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[23:24] < owl> sorry, i'm insane and evil today
[23:24] < fake> owl and me: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/sundj.jpg
[23:24] < fake> *sigh* the good old times
[23:25] < owl> hm
[23:25] < fake> and this is how she looks now: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/spic3.jpg
[23:25] < tsa> hahahaha
[23:26] < fake> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp10.JPG
[23:26] < fake> a good friend of mine ;-)
[23:26] < huebi> o_O Too many fight in the kitchen. owl loves big knifes.
[23:27] < fake> me too: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/jaxi_schwert.jpg
[23:27] < chrisime> hmpf
[23:27] < chrisime> esden: there?
[23:27] < fake> ( and yes, that is really me )
[23:27] < huebi> fake: A photo 10 seconds later please.
[23:27] < owl> huebi: to cut my skin into pices, yeah.
[23:28] < fake> huebi: surfing pr0n sites: https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp2.JPG
[23:29] < huebi> hehehe
[23:29] < owl> the only and the one porn site: https://notebooks.asuscom.de/
[23:30]   fake is having a bath
[23:30] < tsa> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/piot-doris.jpg  <---- ROTFL
[23:30] < owl> -s
[23:30] < fake> cu later
[23:30] < fake> tsa: yes, that's esden
[23:30] < owl> cya fake
[23:30] < huebi> owl: cu fake
[23:30]   Ge0rG has got his own pr0n site... https://ge0rg.boerde.de/pr0n/ ;)
[23:30] < fake> huebi: wrong route
[23:34] < tsa> owl: for you:
[23:34] < tsa> https://www.geocities.com/lukketto/
[23:35] < owl> tsa: haha!
[23:36]   owl makes espresso right now.
[23:36] < huebi> owl: That must be a lie!
[23:36]   Mike1 cant believes his eyes, owl is making coffee, finally!
[23:36] < tsa> YESSSS!
[23:36] < huebi> But where is the man?
[23:36] < owl> eh guys, this espresso is just for myselfe!!!
[23:36] < owl> -e
[23:42] < huebi> (the espresso is a fake. Just a cup of tea.)
[23:42] < tsa> * fake is having a bath
[23:43] < tsa> fake + bath = espresso?
[23:43] < owl> eh???
[23:44] < Mike1> tsa: exaclty
[23:44] < owl> i'm drinking espresso. cuz i was so dead yesterday, that i felt asleep when i was sitting in fron of my computers. and in the morning (in the train) i was so dead that i slept and forgot that i travel to munich cuz it's morning.
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[23:46]   th would love to feel tired now
[23:47]   th would love to start a new day NOW. :-/
[23:47] < tsa> th: no problem - go to work..
[23:47] < Mike1> tsa: NO! he is helping me :)
[23:48] < tsa> ah, ok.
[23:48] < th> tsa: i AM at work
[23:49] < tsa> oh..ok
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Thu Aug 01 00:00:16 2002