-!- Irrsi  Log opened Mon Sep 09 00:00:44 2002
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[00:10] < ripclaw> re
[00:15] < tsa> re ripclaw
[00:23] < bluefire> hi again ripclaw
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[00:35] < HiJacker> Alguêm fala Portugues aê ????
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[01:02] < sofar> hello
[01:03] < sofar> anyone around in here?
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[01:04] < rxr> n8
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[01:44] < ripclaw> kjdnvvg
[01:44] < ripclaw> n8
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[02:55] < martin_> gn8
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[04:01] < bluefire> Good night
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[09:09] < [anders]> meow.. Good morning everyone, hope you all had a nice weekend..
[09:09]   [anders] stayed away from computers this weekend to try and recharge his batteries a bit..
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[09:34] < tsa> moin
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[10:26] < LocalHero> hi all
[10:27] < LocalHero> huebi, i saw that you have tried to upload your iso. Dont put it in your home dir cause that disk is an old small one. Put it in /storage/something witch is the large drive :)
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[10:41] < rxr> re
[10:45] < tsa> hi rxr
[10:45] < tsa> expect a patch for evolution within the next days..
[10:53] < rxr> I also correct and update some gnome2 stuff ...
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[10:54] < bluefire> Moin
[11:09] < praenti> moin
[11:09] < praenti> anyone know wether glib-2.0.6 and gtk+-2.0.6 are backward compatible
[11:17] < defbla> u will need glib1 and gtk1 for some packages!
[11:17] < defbla> actually for a lot of packages :)
[11:17] < praenti> i think so for complete gnome-ditribution
[11:18] < praenti> the problem ist that we also need glib-2.0 and gtk-2.0. ok glib-2.0 is not the problem. but gtk-2.0 finds the glib-1.0 and dont want to compile ;-)
[11:18] < bluefire> praenti: more or less compatible. You'll need some changes to compile a Gtk1 program with Gtk2 and I guess in many cases you'll not be happy with the result.
[11:20] < praenti> argh. gnome developer developing a big project but dont think about compatibility. beginners...
[11:32] < defbla> gtk2 should compile fine even if there is glib1 installed, imho!
[11:32] < defbla> i never had that problem
[11:33] < praenti> defbla: you need glib-2.0 for gtk+-2.0 ;-)
[11:34] < defbla> yes, but u can compile gtk2 eben if there is glib1 - u said it doesnt install as it finds glib1 ...
[11:34] < defbla> s/eben/even/
[11:35] < defbla> s/install/build/
[11:37] < praenti> defbla: it looks like this is the problem. glib-2.0 is installed in /usr/local
[11:37] < praenti> but gtk+ does not find it there
[11:39] < praenti> LD_LIBRARY_PATH and ld.so.conf have /usr/local/lib inside
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[12:10] < praenti> ok. now gtk2 works
[12:10] < praenti> ;-) there was a undocumented feature
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[12:11] < tsa> re
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[12:29] < LocalHero> huebi, im begining to get your iso from your site :)
[12:30] < [anders]> arf.. you need pkgconfig before you build anything gnome related..
[12:31] < tsa> [anders]:
[12:31] < tsa> https://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/installation.html#buildorder
[12:31] < [anders]> When Miguel and I did Gnome2 in 1.5.18, we made sure we had both gtk1/glib1 as well as gtk2/glib2 in there.. And it all installed into /usr
[12:32] < [anders]> tsa: *click*
[12:39] < [anders]> tsa: thanks for that link.. *bookmark*
[12:39] < [anders]> :)
[12:39] < huebi> LocalHero: Have a look in my home dir I think it's there.
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[12:40] < LocalHero> huebi, well the root drive ran out of disk space :(.. But now i download it to my large drive and it will be in place in some hours :). You can use the admin script on the page to add it :)
[12:41] < huebi> LocalHero: ok
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[12:50] < praenti> uff
[12:54] < praenti> gtk+ ver 2.0.6 is not a very simple package
[13:12] < tsa> cu
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[13:26] < praenti> huebi: hab jetzt aus kompatibilitätsgründen eine ext namens gtk2 geschrieben. damit könnte ich gabber und gnome-db wieder kompilieren. ich commite die aber erst wenns sie läuft, ok?
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[13:48] < term_emu> ho
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[14:13] < xlock> huhu
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[14:21]   xlock fragt sich, ob jemand drock-1.6.1-rc jemals hat bauen koennen
[14:24] < praenti> rxr: here?
[14:34] < rolla> re
[14:36] < xlock> puh, jetz kanns doch gar nicht mehr so schlimm sein...
[14:36] < xlock> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          641 Sep  9 14:33 5-linux.out
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[15:09] < armijn> re
[15:20] < armijn> no one awake?
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[16:24] < rxr> hi praenti
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[16:30] < martin__> hi all
[16:30] < martin__> hi rxr
[16:30] < rxr> 3hi martin__
[16:31] < martin__> rxr: was wuerde ich jetzt nicht fuer ein lauffaehiges GSMP geben ... :)
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[16:49] < martin__> rxr_: was is mit Firewall und PowerPC?
[17:04] < martin__> cul
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[17:09] < thalerim> moin all
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[17:11] < jol> lu 'all
[17:11] < thalerim> moin
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[17:21] < d3mian> hi
[18:02] < jol> hello, i'm rocklinux newbie, i've the iso k7 1.5.17 and i've installed it, now i want to update my system, how can i do please
[18:03] < thalerim> ./scripts/Update all
[18:03] < th> no no no
[18:03] < thalerim> there may be a script that displays all changed (== new) packages
[18:03] < th> ./scripts/Update .
[18:03] < thalerim> at least in 1.7
[18:03] < th> thalerim: yes.
[18:03] < th> thalerim: but not in 1.5.17
[18:04] < thalerim> why Update .?
[18:04] < thalerim> Usage: ./scripts/Update PATTERN
[18:04] < th> "./scripts/Update xyz" greps INDEX for xyz and cksums to check for newer version
[18:04] < th> where INDEX is fetched from cvsweb
[18:05] < th> and . is a regexp matching everything
[18:05] < thalerim> ah, then it must be .* though
[18:05] < jol> another question, windowmaker isn't package for 1.5.17 ?
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[18:05] < th> thalerim: not for grep
[18:05] < th> jol: yes it is
[18:05] < th> jol: scripts/Download -package windowmaker ; scripts/Build-Pkg windowmaker
[18:05] < thalerim> th: as well as for grep. but grep automaticely prints the whole line if anything matches, so it doesn't matter ;)
[18:06] < thalerim> but to be pedantic...
[18:06] < th> thalerim: yes, okay ;)
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[18:06] < th> thalerim: to be pedantic we need to escape the *
[18:06] < jol> th: next Build-Pkg is called windows maker is install ?
[18:06] < thalerim> yes..
[18:06] < th> jol: Build-Pkg compiles and installs windowmaker
[18:07] < jol> good
[18:07] < jol> another one, what is the better to upgrade 1.5.17 in 1.7?
[18:10] < d3mian> ?
[18:10] < jol> to upgrade, just need to dl roklinux 1.7 and run a ./script/Update all
[18:10] < thalerim> no
[18:11] < d3mian> th: did u read the last mail i sent u ?
[18:11] < d3mian> btw..hi tobias
[18:11] < thalerim> hallo
[18:12] < thalerim> jol: a) ./scripts/Update ".*", b) it will only update the sources of your current version tree
[18:12] < thalerim> jol: for 1.7 you'd have to download a 1.7-rock-src tarball from rocklinux.org
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[18:20] < thalerim> moin armijn!!!
[18:20] < armijn> hi
[18:20] < thalerim> how are you?
[18:20] < d3mian> hi armijn
[18:20] < armijn> not too bad
[18:21] < armijn> finishing my pizza right now :)
[18:21] < armijn> and solved a nasty problem that bugged me for months
[18:21] < thalerim> <- eating a snickers for the small hunger meanwhile ;)
[18:22] < armijn> snickers...
[18:24] < thalerim> pizza...
[18:24] < thalerim> beer... ;-)
[18:25] < d3mian> um, bye
[18:25] < armijn> not yet :)
[18:25] < thalerim> cu d3mian
[18:27] < th> d3mian: not yet sorry :-( but it's still in my inbox
[18:28] < d3mian> ok, just asking me if the mail arrived, no prob
[18:29] < thalerim> brb
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[18:37] < owl> hi
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[18:45] < rolla> owl
[18:50] < owl> hi rolla
[18:59] < rolla> :)
[19:06] < d3mian> re, Check-Dep-2 have some typos...
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[19:07] < Mike1> hi
[19:07] < thalerim> re d3mian ; moin Mike1
[19:08] < Mike1> hi thalerim
[19:08] < owl> hi Mike1
[19:08] < Mike1> owly :)
[19:08] < d3mian> re Mikey
[19:09] < d3mian> ive just sent u a mail
[19:09] < Mike1> hola d3mian, everything cool my friend?
[19:09] < Mike1> yes i have just read it
[19:09] < Mike1> thats why i came here :)
[19:09] < d3mian> yes.. but i was leaving... cya in some minutes.
[19:09] < thalerim> you were?
[19:10] < thalerim> or are you now?
[19:10] < Mike1> i am almost gone again so we will talk in some days
[19:10] < d3mian> thalerim: both :p
[19:10] < rxr_> Hi Mike1
[19:10] < Mike1> see you
[19:10] < d3mian> ?
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[19:10] < rxr_> urgh ...
[19:10] < d3mian> hehe
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[19:10] < d3mian> re rxr
[19:10] < d3mian> now i go, cya
[19:10] < thalerim> cu
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[19:12] < Mike1> re
[19:12] < Mike1> rxr: still here??
[19:13] < Mike1> rxr: ?
[19:13] < Mike1> :(
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[19:13] < thalerim> *???*
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[19:20] < rxr> :-(
[19:20] < rxr> Moved to my laptop and missed Mike1 :-( brrrr
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[19:47] < rxr> the updates poste4d on the ML are now in my tree.
[19:48] < rxr> Feel free to test. (mostly gnome2)
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[20:17] < owl> re
[20:18] < blindcoder> g'evening everyone
[20:18] < thalerim> moin owl, blind
[20:18] < owl> hi blindcoder, thalerim
[20:19] < d3mian> hi blindcoder
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[21:09] < esden> hi all
[21:09] < blindcoder> hi esden
[21:09] < owl> hi esden
[21:09] < d3mian> hi esden
[21:09] < blindcoder> *gives esden a hug*
[21:10] < esden> hi blindcoder *"rehug"*
[21:10] < esden> hi d3mian owl
[21:10] < esden> how are you guys
[21:10] < owl> blindcoder, esden: ihr seid verrueckt
[21:10] < blindcoder> fine... just a little leftover from the hangover on sunday morning *urks*
[21:11] < blindcoder> owl: you recognized that VERY late
[21:19] < rxr> hi esden
[21:20] < owl> blindcoder: yep. but you haven't "hugged" you very often, i guess. and this "hug" is, why you and esden are crazy... ;P
[21:21] < blindcoder> hehe
[21:21] < owl> blindcoder: it's not funny ;P
[21:22] < esden> hi rxr
[21:23] < blindcoder> i think it is.. since no one else is hugging us...
[21:24] < owl> blindcoder: no one is nugging me, too. but if someone would hug me, then this person would be dead or something like that
[21:24]   esden is not willing to try
[21:24] < blindcoder> sounds good :)
[21:24] < esden> ;-)
[21:24] < owl> blindcoder: being dead sounds good? of course
[21:25]   esden feels negative waves from owl and blindcoder
[21:26]   blindcoder is in a very good mood actually :)
[21:26]   owl is in bad mood. worse than ever before.
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[21:32] < tsa> rxr: wach?
[21:33] < owl> hi tsa
[21:33] < tsa> rxr: das war wohl eher nen tippfehler mit der mail....latest is ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/gnome-pim/gnome-pim-1.1.91.tar.gz
[21:33] < tsa> 1.1.91 != 1.91.1 ..
[21:33] < tsa> ;)
[21:33] < tsa> tag owl
[21:35] < esden> cu all
[21:35]   esden be back tomorrow
[21:35] < owl> bye esden
[21:36] < rxr> hi tsa
[21:37] < rxr> gnome-pim-1.4.6 -> gnome-pim-1.91.1.tar.gz
[21:37] < tsa> ack ;)
[21:37] < blindcoder> bye all, gn8
[21:37] < rxr> hast du also auch nicht gefunden ?
[21:37] < tsa> <- didn't want to bother the mailing list again ..
[21:37] < tsa> noe, ist wohl nen echter zahlendreher..
[21:37] < rxr> hm
[21:37] < rxr> die ganzen updates sind in meinem rsync drin ...
[21:38] < rxr> falls du testen willst ...
[21:38] < rxr> gibt es bei dir was neuen ? z.B. galeon ?
[21:38] < tsa> derzeit nix..
[21:38]   rxr started nen neuen 1.7 build.
[21:38] < tsa> ich bastel an nem patch fuer evolution, der macht derzeit nicht rfc-konforme msg-id's
[21:39] < tsa> der patch is soweit fertig, bloss derzeit noch nicht thread-safe...
[21:39] < rxr> ach evolution wars nicht galeon - richtig
[21:40]   tsa versucht derzeit noch, gethostbyname_r zu verstehen..
[21:41]   rxr schaut sich gerade endlich subversion ausfuehrlich an ;-)
[21:41] < rxr> und baut mal wieder fleissig 1.7 ...
[21:42] < tsa> hehe
[21:42] < rxr> so - bin mal auf'm sofa - subversion handbook lesen ;-)
[21:44] < tsa> viel spass..
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[21:47] < tsa> hm.../me will nen ExtremeRAID 2000 ..
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[22:06] < jol> lu'all
[22:06] < jol> i'm newbie, i want to know if there is a dialog install to select what package that i want install
[22:07] < jol> i'm on rock linux 1.7
[22:09] < praenti> hoi
[22:09] < praenti> tsa: da?
[22:09] < tsa> jupp ;)
[22:10] < tsa> was gibt's?
[22:11] < praenti> welcher von deinen gpg-keys is im moment aktuell?
[22:11] < tsa> 18AC0BE4
[22:11] < tsa> whois pgpkey-18AC0BE4 -h whois.ripe.net|perl -ne's-^certif: +--&&print'
[22:14] < jol> on rocklinux 1.7, there is a dialog install to select packages ???
[22:16] < tsa> 1.7 is the development tree , and the package format is currently being changed...
[22:17] < jol> so to select my pakages i need to change config/my_conf ?
[22:18] < jol> What i must used, 1.5.17 or dev 1.7 ?
[22:19] < tsa> for a stable system, i'd recommend using 1.5 for now..
[22:19] < jol> tsa: yep, but gcc 3 is ok for 1.5
[22:20] < jol> ?
[22:20] < tsa> should be
[22:20] < tsa> huebi: you awake?
[22:21] < jol> tsa: there is an dialog install to select packages ?
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[22:24] < tsa> jol: i haven't played around with the 1.5 tree for a while, but last time i looked there was ..
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[22:26] < tsa> hi ripclaw
[22:27] < ripclaw> helo
[22:27] < tsa> 220 Bitte keine Werbung einwerfen.
[22:27] < ripclaw> hi tsa.
[22:27] < ripclaw> :)
[22:28] < tsa> ( O SmtpGreetingMessage=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b \n Bitte keine Werbung einwerfen.
[22:28] < tsa> )
[22:28] < ripclaw> tsa: hast du ne idee, wo ich fuer 1.5.18 ne iso mit den zusatzpaketen herbekomme ?
[22:28] < ripclaw> hab grad upgrade-wahn
[22:28] < ripclaw> 1.5.12-singapore -> 1.5.18
[22:28] < tsa> hehe....
[22:28] < ripclaw> mir fehlt die haelfte der apps.
[22:28] < ripclaw> e.g. enlightenment
[22:28] < tsa> mal auf iso.rocklinux.de geguckt?
[22:29] < ripclaw> brb.
[22:29] < tsa> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/unstable/Rock-1.5.19/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.19.iso
[22:29] < ripclaw> ahe -ist das die aktuelle, oder ein snapshot ?
[22:30] < ripclaw> weil, iso sagt 1.5.17 waere aktuell.. hab hier aber 2x 18er liegen.
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[22:31] < ripclaw> wo ist eigentlich huebi wenn man ihn nerven will ? er geht nicht ans phon....
[22:31] < tsa> hm...keine ahnung, wo der ist..
[22:31] < tsa> -rw-r--r--   1 root     root    448263360   Sep  9 19:56   rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.19.iso
[22:31] < tsa> hm...von heute offenbar
[22:31] < ripclaw> aber 18 is mal wieder nich druff...
[22:31] < tsa> jo, sieht so aus.
[22:32] < ripclaw> wo kann ich denn die 1.5.18er images hochzappen ?
[22:32] < tsa> aah!
[22:32] < tsa> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.18.iso
[22:32] < tsa> da ist nen 1.5.18 ..
[22:33] < ripclaw> aha !
[22:33] < ripclaw> das ist sogar der, den er fuer mich gemacht hatte...
[22:33] < tsa> hehe
[22:34] < ripclaw> ich bin doch immer die heulsuse^H^H^H^Hsirene mit dem 586er systemen...
[22:34] < ripclaw> das suse hat keiner gesehen, wir sind rock...
[22:34] < tsa> nu braeuchte huebi nur noch ne dickere leitung..der naechste kandidat fuer ATM@home ;)
[22:35] < ripclaw> gib dir mal das ftp pub bei huebi...
[22:35] < praenti> ripclaw: why?
[22:35] < ripclaw> btw - als revanche fuer das archiv vom linuxtag, hast du interesse an einer cd-iso vergleichbaren inhalts ?
[22:35] < praenti> hierstmal
[22:35] < tsa> w2ksp3.exe
[22:35] < praenti> lol
[22:36] < praenti> ahh nee
[22:36] < tsa> ripclaw: aber immer doch ;-)
[22:36] < ripclaw> praenti: gibs dir einfach. *loadmode*
[22:37] < ripclaw> geil, da liegt ein sparc iso. FIRST LOAD !
[22:37] < tsa> sparc__64__
[22:38] < ripclaw> tsa: egal, archiv !
[22:38] < tsa> hehe
[22:40]   ripclaw goes into download mode
[22:40] < ripclaw> 7k ratio
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[22:51] < hioki> d3mian: are you there?
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[22:54] < ripclaw> tsa wohin mit den daten ?
[22:54] < tsa> mom.
[22:55] < ripclaw> ripclaw@queensryche>
[22:56] < ripclaw> aha, armijn hat mal wieder sparc gebootet (mail)
[22:57] < ripclaw> da tut wer mehr als ich...
[22:57] < ripclaw> ll
[22:57] < ripclaw> sorry wrong window
[23:02] < ripclaw> so, jetzt nur noch den silopatch hochladen
[23:03] < tsa> hehe
[23:03] < ripclaw> hab nen halben patch, und armijn aergert sich, wenn er den selber machen muss, wg. zeitaufwand
[23:04] < tsa> hm...kommt mir bekannt vor..
[23:04]   tsa hat hier auch noch nen halb fertigen patch rumzuliegen..
[23:04] < ripclaw> sind z.t. echt fiese dinger dabei...
[23:05] < tsa> hm..nutzt hier irgendwer vmware?
[23:05] < tsa> inzwischen hab ich's mit devfs am laufen, aber nen bekannter hat nen binary patch fuer das kernelmodul...
[23:05] < ripclaw> tsa - weissu wieviel zeit heutsutage draufgeht, wenn du all die komplizierten dinge wie div mod etc. im ansi-c standard nachsehen musst *fatgrin*
[23:06] < ripclaw> tsa: geht das auch fuer sparc mittlerweile ?
[23:06] < tsa> ripclaw: keine ahnung..
[23:06] < tsa> ripclaw: naja, meine c-kenntnisse sind mehr als bescheiden aka quasi nicht vorhanden...
[23:07] < tsa> -> doku lesen -> coden -> make -> ./blah -> rm core -> goto 10
[23:07] < tsa> sammelt irgendwer hier core-files?
[23:07] < ripclaw> div: / mod: % also ganz easy. war auch eher ironisch, 90% der zeit war code lesen und irgendwelche subtilen kernelwerte erraten... das silo patch ist auf einem mac entstanden :)
[23:08] < ripclaw> ja ja ja (j/k)
[23:08] < jol> tsa: how can i select in 1.7 pakages i need before do a build ?
[23:08] < tsa> jol: ./scripts/Config - somewhere in the expert options ..
[23:08] < ripclaw> rm works for sure, i believe...
[23:08] < ripclaw> that is, if you want to reduce the build to minimum to save buildtime.
[23:08] < tsa> ripclaw: yes, and sometimes that's the only thing working ...
[23:09] < ripclaw> tsa: dd always works...
[23:10] < ripclaw> huebi muss zuhause sein, mein download ratio ist runter gegangen !
[23:10] < tsa> hehe...
[23:10] < tsa> ruf ihn an...
[23:10]   ripclaw hat phon bereits in der hand
[23:11] < jol> tsa: thkx
[23:11] < tsa> ripclaw: gruess schoen ..
[23:12] < ripclaw> tsa: gruesse zurueck
[23:13]   tsa wartet ja immer noch auf die rechnung von huebi ..
[23:13] < tsa> ..der will wohl kein geld haben
[23:13] < ripclaw> erinner ihn...
[23:14] < tsa> hab ich schon...wollte er die naechsten paar tage fertig machen..
[23:14] < ripclaw> huebi hat sich den ruecken verrenkt.
[23:15] < tsa> urghs..das sollte man lieber nicht machen..
[23:19] < ripclaw> tsa: rechnung sobald er wieder rennt.
[23:19] < tsa> oki..
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[23:26] < aszlig> hullo
[23:26] < owl> hi aszlig. haste dich verirrt? *zynisch_fies_grins*
[23:27] < tsa> owl: kaffee!
[23:28] < owl> tsa: mach ihn dir doch selbst! ich bin  nciht die bedienung, zum geier!
[23:29] < tsa> owl: natuerlich bist du...
[23:29] < tsa> wer denn auch sonst?
[23:29] < owl> tsa: du selbst. "selbst ist der mann"
[23:29] < tsa> ..wel die frau nix kann. ;)
[23:29] < tsa> wil even
[23:29] < tsa> weil.
[23:29] < tsa> GNAAA.
[23:30] < owl> tsa: na und? das ist mir egaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal wie sonst noch was!
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