--- Log opened Fri Sep 13 00:00:02 2002 --- Day changed Fri Sep 13 2002 00:00 < owl> so i can't help you. sorry 00:16 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A12A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:47 -!- foze [~cvcv@dsbg-d9bbd75a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit () 00:48 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816B35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:01 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-20-2-dialup-69.freesurf.ch] has left #rocklinux () 01:05 -!- zer0_o^^ [~zer0_o@pop-ls-8-1-2-dialup-61.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 01:05 -!- zer0_o^^ [~zer0_o@pop-ls-8-1-2-dialup-61.freesurf.ch] has left #rocklinux () 01:18 -!- zero0000 [~zer0_o@pop-zh-23-2-dialup-29.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 01:18 < zero0000> mann !! 01:19 < owl> *gg* bist du bei nickserv registriert? 01:20 < zero0000> jop 01:20 < zero0000> mom 01:20 -!- zero0000 is now known as zer0_o 01:20 < zer0_o> so 01:20 < owl> heh, lernfaehig ;P 01:21 < zer0_o> hab die sau geghosted =) 01:21 < owl> hm? 01:22 < zer0_o> zer0_o war irgendwo schon vorhanden .. 01:23 < zer0_o> dabei hab ich schon lang gequited 01:23 < zer0_o> =) 01:23 < zer0_o> schräge sache 01:23 < zer0_o> oder nickserv spinnt 01:24 < owl> hmmm 01:24 < owl> ist doch egaaaaaaaaaaal 01:24 < zer0_o> joah 01:24 < zer0_o> das is echt nicht wichtig 01:24 < zer0_o> nur du bist wichtig 01:24 < zer0_o> =) 01:24 < owl> blah 01:25 < zer0_o> freu mich das du da bist! 01:25 < zer0_o> aber nu geh ich ins bett 01:25 < owl> wah! 01:25 < owl> schockiere mich ned! 01:25 < owl> *schuettel* 01:25 < owl> g8. cu 01:25 < zer0_o> bye sandra =) 01:25 < owl> bye zer0_o 01:26 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-23-2-dialup-29.freesurf.ch] has quit ("sleep") 01:38 -!- chrisime is now known as chriZzzz 01:53 -!- nAdIEd [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #rocklinux 01:53 < nAdIEd> H! 01:53 -!- nAdIEd [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has left #rocklinux () 01:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5059.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking reality") 02:23 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816B35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:28 < d3mian> re 03:45 -!- kmilo [Rocker@plms16760-122.pool.007mundo.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:02 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ADEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:10 -!- kmilo [Rocker@plms16760-122.pool.007mundo.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:22 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ADEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 04:24 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ADEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:28 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816B35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 04:47 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 05:07 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ADEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 08:16 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 08:21 -!- clifford [~clifford@M114P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:21 < clifford> hi. 08:30 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090BA29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:30 < kasc> hiyas 08:40 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813B0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 < thalerim> moin 08:49 < kasc> auch moin 08:54 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813B0A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("see you later, school now") 09:02 -!- litost [~stephen@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has quit ("sleep") 09:22 -!- clifford [~clifford@M114P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:24 -!- [anders] [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:25 < [anders]> moin zusammen.. 09:25 < [anders]> Well, until I can get my hands on a new network card, I think I will not be able to be online much.. The built in ethernet in my box at home died yesterday after the powerfailure.. 10:17 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has joined #rocklinux 10:18 < bluefire> Moin 11:55 < [anders]> moin bluefire, how are you today? 12:19 -!- chrisi [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:23 -!- chrisi is now known as chrisime 12:35 < praenti> moin 12:37 -!- chriZzzz [~chrisime@pD9590EEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:38 < [anders]> meep.. 12:38 < [anders]> okay, have had to go through and order some things for the box at home and the laptop.. :-/ 12:40 < [anders]> the powercut yesterday seems to have screwed up the network card in the PC so it doesn't send or receive any IP traffic.. on an ARP level it appears to be working and the Ethernet side of it works as mii-tool tells me it negotiated with the 8-port switch alright.. 12:41 < [anders]> and I also ordered a new HDD for the laptop and a USB2 enclosure for the old disk so I can slurp things of the old disk.. Which will be handy.. Later I can always use that disk for backups.. :) 12:47 < [anders]> not a bad price for the USB2 disk enclosure.. £30+VAT.. so I guess around ¤50 or so.. Good price I thought.. 12:49 -!- clifford [~clifford@M114P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 12:49 < clifford> hi. 12:50 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 < armijn> re 13:20 < armijn> hmm, no huebi? 13:34 < praenti> huebi: 1.5.19 does not build on my system. download now from alex iso site the binary. perhaps i can build rock on that system ;-) 13:36 < armijn> praenti: what kind of system? 13:37 < praenti> armijn: an own build 1.5.17. but i think i've a broken glibc 13:37 < armijn> which architecture? 13:37 < praenti> ia32 athlon 13:38 < praenti> on huebis box there are no problems 14:01 < [anders]> meep.. I have to give 1.5.19 a spin once I get everything going again on my home box.. 14:06 < [anders]> might even update the cpu to something better in a while as well.. 14:06 < [anders]> the XP2400+ does look rather tempting.. I just have to be careful of overheating.. :-( 14:15 * praenti makes huebis dsl line on heavy traffic ;-) 14:20 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D6AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:20 < thalerim> moin all 14:20 < praenti> moin thalerim 14:23 < xlock> cu 14:24 -!- xlock [~jma@rkom.r-kom.de] has quit ("leaving") 14:25 < thalerim> huebi: are you here? 14:29 < [anders]> mmmm... getting a 6 or 12 month extension here at IBM.. (Hopefully 12 months).. Which is nice.. :) 14:30 < [anders]> That means though I will still have as little time as ever to hack on Rock.. :-/ 14:31 < thalerim> huebi: about the jorunaling filesystems issue some days ago (or so): xfs, jfs, reiserfs - and probably every other than ext3 too - are _not_ able to recover a file in that was written and suddenly the power goes out (== crash), this file is *lost* then. This is because the used file operations aren't atomic or so. Just FYI. 14:32 < [anders]> thalerim: I thought ext3 was capable of that. 14:33 < thalerim> it is indeed 14:33 < [anders]> thalerim: but if you enable that function, it will be incredibly slow.. 14:34 < thalerim> actually it's the default option 14:34 < armijn> hmm 14:34 < [anders]> thalerim: not to mention that if you use (e)ide backend storage your journaling doesn't guarantee file integrity anyway.. 14:34 < thalerim> [anders]: apply the HTree patch and see how ext3 burns all other filesystems away :-) 14:34 < thalerim> BTW. ReiserFS v4 will have atomic file-operations 14:35 < [anders]> thalerim: HTree patch? how about you put that in the 1.5.19 tree in the misc dir or something? :) So I get the patch when I next co the cvs tree.. ;-) 14:35 < thalerim> in spite of this won't decrease the speed 14:35 < [anders]> RFS v4 will have all sorts of goodies.. like pluggable crypto modules.. 14:36 < thalerim> [anders]: there was an HTree patch for an very early 2.4.x, now there're only recent patches for 2.5.x 14:36 < [anders]> I was under the impression that ext3 only logged metadata in the journal per default. 14:37 < [anders]> (much like JFS and XFS does things..) 14:37 < thalerim> [anders]: i'll stay at ext3 though. HTree makes it really fast, and i like the compatibility and the additional attributes 14:37 * [anders] been running RFS since 2.4.0-pre days and it hasn't eaten my box yet.. (touch wood) 14:38 < [anders]> I even used RFS on SuSE 6.[1-3] and it worked fine for me then.. 14:39 * praenti wants UFS it has not journaling but soft-updates 14:39 < praenti> yesterday i've read an article in IX 14:40 < thalerim> [anders]: rfs4 will go in 2.4.21-pre1 14:41 < thalerim> err 14:41 < thalerim> first steps to it 14:41 < thalerim> or so 14:41 < [anders]> thalerim: cool. I will have to keep an eye open for that.. 14:41 < [anders]> I'm running 2.4.19-ac3 at the moment.. Will hold off on the 2.4.20-pre things until close to release.. 14:42 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819B96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:43 < term_emu> tag 14:43 < rxr> re 14:44 < armijn> somehow I question whether the current linux and linux-src packages will behave nicely for sparc64 14:47 < [anders]> armijn: once I have space and cash, I'll acquire a U60 with some disks and give it a try.. 14:50 < armijn> I will try it soon 14:50 < armijn> and then try LFS 15:01 < [anders]> LFS has been something I have been interested in for a good while. . Just never had the time to play with it really.. 15:01 < armijn> if you've done a rock build once, you can do LFS :) 15:01 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has quit ("leaving") 15:01 < armijn> it's very similar 15:03 -!- clifford [~clifford@M114P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:15 -!- foze [~cvcv@dsbg-d9bbd4df.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 < thalerim> lol, hi foze 15:16 < foze> hi 15:17 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:18 < thalerim> foze: "fotze" (but pronounced like "foze") means "cunt" in german, that's why the lol ;) 15:18 < armijn> a dirty mind is a joy forever 15:18 < thalerim> you must know it 15:18 < foze> hehehe 15:19 < foze> foze means in german Ohrfeige 15:19 < foze> Fotze=Orhfeige :D 15:19 < thalerim> .pool.mediayways.net <- what provider? 15:19 < foze> expressnet.de 15:20 < foze> www.expressnet.de 15:20 < thalerim> mh... cheap? 15:20 < foze> yes 17,99 euro per month 15:20 < thalerim> for what? 15:20 < thalerim> is it regional wide? 15:20 < foze> 4 flaterate 15:20 < foze> yes 15:21 < foze> bis doch deutsch oda ? 15:21 < foze> ja Bundesweit 15:21 < armijn> ja ja ganz geil! 15:21 < thalerim> lol @ armijn ... where did you get that phrase from? 15:22 < armijn> thalerim: dunno... 15:22 < thalerim> foze: since dtelekom will increase the prices i am open for new providers... 15:22 < armijn> almost everyone here knows that phrase 15:22 < foze> yes i know cause that i change 2 expressnet. i have no problems with it 15:23 < thalerim> foze: do you know how long the contract of dtk takes? 15:23 < foze> very fast in germany, www.tlink.de, www.callando.de 15:23 < foze> contract ? 15:23 < foze> hää? 15:23 < thalerim> vertrag 15:23 < foze> ah 15:23 < foze> 6 days 15:24 < thalerim> huh? 15:24 < foze> 6 tage Kündigungsfrist 15:24 < thalerim> ah 15:24 < thalerim> really? 15:24 < foze> jap 15:24 < thalerim> i thought it was at least one month 15:24 < foze> www.express.net.wwwtlink.de.www,express.net all r reseller from mediaways so thgey use the same backbone 15:25 < foze> no 6 days, i phoned today with t-obnline 15:25 < thalerim> armijn: what does geil mean in .nl? 15:25 < thalerim> mediaways is the most cheapest? (don't want to take a look at all these sites, just trust you if you say yes ;)) 15:25 < thalerim> s,most,, 15:26 < foze> i get my account from expressnet 1 hour after i registered :)))) and it works great 15:26 < foze> yes 15:26 < foze> r u student the u can get a cheaper flaterate 4 only 15 euro per month 15:27 < thalerim> i still go to school, but not to a uni, if you mean that 15:28 < foze> k that works only with real unis 15:28 < foze> https://www.studenten-ins-netz.net/ 15:28 < armijn> thalerim: geil means "horny" in Dutch 15:28 < foze> but expressnet is a good choice i think, 15:28 < foze> hehehe 15:28 < armijn> so it's not like the german "geil" 15:29 < thalerim> armijn: it's the same word as in english??? 15:29 < armijn> howdoyamean? 15:29 < armijn> if you say "geil" here, you mean horny 15:30 < thalerim> oh. 15:30 < thalerim> ok. didn't know that geil is used there as well 15:30 < armijn> hey, we've got the right to use it as well... 15:31 < thalerim> did you? 15:31 < armijn> dutch has been recognized as a language for at least 400 years now 15:31 < foze> dutch is cool langue :))) 15:31 < thalerim> 400years? lol, don't think so 15:32 < armijn> thalerim: I'm pretty sure... 15:32 < thalerim> who the - declared that? 15:32 < armijn> as in, recognized internationally as a language 15:32 < armijn> before that, it was a bunch of dialects 15:32 < thalerim> ack 15:32 < armijn> and we still know how to swear in german :) 15:32 < thalerim> but 400 years... 1600... don't think it was a own language then already 15:33 < armijn> ok, ok, then maybe not at least, but about 15:33 < thalerim> what was netherlands in that time? 15:33 < armijn> republic 15:34 < armijn> or well...actually... 15:34 < armijn> not 15:34 < thalerim> i mean was it a own country at all? 15:34 < armijn> some people think it was a spanish colony 15:34 < armijn> but it's not 15:34 < thalerim> spanis? pretty unlikely 15:34 < armijn> well, the king of spain was also lord of large parts of what is now .nl and .be 15:35 -!- andrew_m [~andrew@dclient217-162-187-24.hispeed.ch] has joined #rocklinux 15:35 < thalerim> but colony emans something different 15:35 < armijn> but there was a conflict, that many people refer to as the "80 year war" 15:35 < armijn> but it wasn't a war and certainly not for 80 years 15:35 < andrew_m> hi armijn ;) 15:35 < armijn> hi andrew_m 15:35 < thalerim> in german we say it belonged to the "Spanish Hoheitsgebiet" 15:35 < armijn> had nothing to do with spain 15:36 < armijn> it was just that the spanish king also happened to be lord of large parts of .nl and .be 15:36 < thalerim> yes, that we express with belonging to a Hoheitsgebiet 15:36 < armijn> hochzeitsgebiet? 15:36 < armijn> :) 15:36 < thalerim> hoheit = highness 15:37 < armijn> ah 15:37 < thalerim> gebiet = area 15:37 < thalerim> or so 15:37 < armijn> but it was no war, just a revolt 15:37 < armijn> and you know what it was about? hardly about religion, but about losing tax privilegs 15:38 < armijn> but, I've got to take care of some things, going to france for a week... 15:38 < armijn> so, will see you around 15:38 * armijn gone 15:38 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 15:38 < foze> sry 4 this dump question, can some1 explain a rookie how 2 dselect add. packages in 1.7-DEV ? i know its easy but i dunno unterstand how :( 15:38 < thalerim> going to a friend now, cu 15:39 < foze> cya 15:39 -!- andrew_m [~andrew@dclient217-162-187-24.hispeed.ch] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 15:39 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D6AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 15:56 -!- bread [~bread@host217-34-44-143.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:03 -!- litost [~stephen@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has joined #rocklinux 16:05 -!- bread [~bread@host217-34-44-143.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:06 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 16:07 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:07 < Mike1> Hi all 16:09 < litost> morning Mike1 16:09 < Mike1> good mourning litost everything good my friend? 16:10 < litost> great! i'm rested up and ready for my next class in a few mins :)...how are you? 16:14 < Mike1> a bit sick, but good business are comming up for my company so i am happy :)), even pretty soon i will be add my first server in europe with a company named HBS Solutions 16:19 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95223DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:21 -!- redgore [~redgore@modem-3-51-60-62.vip.uk.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:21 < redgore> hey ppl 16:21 < Mike1> hi redgore 16:22 < redgore> rocklinux include e17 ? 16:22 < redgore> or am i wrong ? 16:25 < esden> hi all 16:26 < esden> redgore: the 1.7 tree 16:26 < Mike1> moin master esden 16:26 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-169-21.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 < esden> it contains a cvs snapshot of e17 16:26 < esden> but I do not know if it compiles 16:26 < redgore> good Im not wasting download time to get e17 off one of the mirrors ! 16:26 < esden> ask rxr ... 16:27 < redgore> rxr : Does the CVS snampshot of e17 in the tarballs compile ? 16:29 < rxr_> redgore: theoretically yes 16:29 < rxr_> but they need autoconf and automake 16:29 < rxr_> and the latest versions are too broken to parse the .in (and other) files of E17 ... 16:29 < rxr_> the auto* stufr is a big mess ... 16:30 < redgore> we shall see then ! 16:30 < esden> redgore: test it ... and try to get it running ... perhups you can then help us get it running ... if you want to have it ... ;-) 16:31 < rxr_> on an older ROCK or dRock system E17 will build ... - but not on the actual one 16:31 < rxr_> redgore: you would need to fix the auto* stuff in general ... 16:33 -!- rxr [~rene@212.202.201.114] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:34 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr 16:35 < rxr> hm OpenOffice 1.0.1 now runs on ROCK 16:36 < rxr> but the graphic is really slow slow slow. 16:36 < rxr> The menu and window movements are slower than Windows on my x386 !!! 16:36 < rxr> And this is a Athlon XP 1700+ with an Matrox MGA 450 here ... :-((( 16:37 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:37 < netcrow> hi 16:37 < esden> hi netti ! 16:38 < esden> rxr: you have to optimize it ... 16:38 < esden> is it possible ? 16:38 < rxr> hm? I did ot build from source ... 16:38 < rxr> (and I do not want to try it ...) 16:39 < rxr> but fundamental programming mistakes can not be corrected with optimization ... 16:39 -!- redgore is now known as Knowsdamnloads 16:40 < esden> yes that is right ... 16:40 < esden> rxr: it is open source ... so you can fix this mistakes ;-) 16:41 -!- Knowsdamnloads is now known as Blokkie 16:41 -!- Blokkie is now known as redgore 16:41 < esden> have fun ;-) 16:41 -!- redgore [~redgore@modem-3-51-60-62.vip.uk.com] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 16:43 < netcrow> esden: back in germany? 16:48 < esden> nope ... sorry ... 16:51 < esden> how are you netti ? 17:01 < netcrow> fine, thank you ;] 17:02 < netcrow> and you? 17:03 < esden> I am fine too ... thanks ... I miss my dsl ... but other things are ok ... 17:12 < netcrow> denkst du an meine zigaretten? ;-) 17:13 < netcrow> *gähn* ich glaub ich fahr jetzt dann mal heim... 17:15 < esden> ja ich denke drann 17:15 < rxr> esden: no thanks. I sue KOffice instead ... 17:15 < rxr> it is more light-weight 17:16 < esden> that is also a choice ... 17:19 < foze> can some1 of u geeks and nerds say me how to deslect additional packages in 1.7-DEV, iam tooo stupid to understand this...btw where can i read smoething about this........ 17:21 < esden> there is a place in ./scripts/Config menu .. where you can deselect, disable or enable packages ... using a regex 17:21 < d3mian> hi all 17:21 < foze> but how ? 17:22 < foze> i know where in the COnfig menu but i dunno how to delesct say mozilla 17:22 < foze> package 17:22 < esden> - Additional Package Selection 17:22 < esden> [*] Custom package selection 17:22 < foze> yes 17:22 < esden> ---- Use "X " to enable packages 17:23 < esden> ---- Use "O " to disable packages 17:23 < esden> ---- Use "- " to remove packages 17:23 < foze> yes :) 17:23 < esden> and then you can view the current list 17:23 < esden> with : 17:24 < esden> --> Show the current package lis 17:24 < esden> and add new patterns using: 17:24 < esden> | 001: 17:24 < esden> very ease 17:24 < esden> y 17:25 < esden> you write: - bash 17:25 < esden> and in this way you deselect bash packet 17:25 < foze> hmm 17:25 < esden> or : O gkrellm 17:25 < foze> i try it 17:25 < esden> to disable automatic selection of a packet 17:25 < foze> but i always get Syntax error in rule set 17:25 < esden> hmm ... 17:26 < foze> snapshot from yesterday 17:28 < esden> it works for me ... I have the snap from today 17:28 < foze> k i try to update it 17:28 < esden> kk 17:32 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:35 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081295B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:35 < thalerim> re all 17:36 < esden> re thalerim 17:37 < thalerim> moin esden. what are you doing? 17:40 < esden> I am looking through thinkgeek ... and downloading all new sources of the newest 1.7 snap 17:40 < esden> then I will update some things in povray packets ... and that is it ... 17:41 < foze> select/dslect didnt work(snapshot from today), always the same Syntax error in rule set ! can i edit a file to select/dslect packages manually ? 17:43 < esden> hmm ... where does the syntax error come ? ... and what have you typed ? 17:43 < foze> i type - bash or - mozilla 17:44 < foze> the Syntax Error is above the Line Show the current package list 17:45 < esden> strange ... 17:45 < foze> iam not new to linux but new to rocklinux(i used lfs before) 17:45 < esden> really strange ... 17:46 < esden> foze ... you know that it is not easy to install 1.7 because it is not containing install disks ? 17:46 < esden> foze: use 1.5 tree instead ... 17:46 < esden> that is "installable" 17:46 < foze> hmm 17:48 < foze> k ty 4 ur help 17:48 < esden> guys !!! : You don't have permission to access /1.5/1.5.17/ on this server. 17:48 < esden> for this url: https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.17/ 17:48 < esden> what is going on ? 17:48 < esden> is huebi here or SMP ? 17:49 < esden> permissions seems to be wrong ... 17:50 < esden> foze: but you can also get the cvs version ... see topic of this channel 17:50 < thalerim> esden: write to ml as praenti 17:51 < esden> humm ... ahh ... right ... there was something ... 17:53 < netcrow> hm, 1.5.19 konnt ich ziehen 17:55 < d3mian> Mike1: !!! 17:55 < Mike1> d3mian: !!! 17:56 < d3mian> how are u my friend ? 17:56 < d3mian> long time without see u 17:57 < esden> netcrow: url ? 17:58 < netcrow> ftp://iso.rocklinux.de/unstable/Rock-1.5.19/ 17:59 < esden> ach ... iso ... that is a difference ... 17:59 < esden> I wanted to access sources ... 18:00 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5a5c.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:00 < owl> hi 18:00 < d3mian> hi owl 18:00 < owl> hi d3mian 18:00 < esden> hi owl 18:01 < owl> hi esden 18:05 < foze> esden : which file can i edit 2 disable packages manually ?? (1.7-DEV) 18:05 < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,213899,00.html 18:05 < [anders]> moin owl 18:06 < owl> hi [anders] 18:06 < esden> after you run Config you can edit config/default/packages afaik 18:06 < esden> that should solve your problem 18:06 < foze> k 18:07 < esden> but when you run after it Config your changes in this file will be lost 18:07 < esden> you can also remove packages directly in the package/* directorys 18:08 < esden> or edit package/*/*/*.desc files 18:08 < foze> k i will try this way :) 18:12 < esden> k 18:21 < esden> cu all ... my time is over 18:21 * -> esden off 18:26 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Lost terminal") 18:27 -!- [anders] [~anders@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has left #rocklinux ("I like core dumps") 18:30 < d3mian> cya esden 19:16 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < owl> hi hackbard 19:17 < Mike1> hackbard: yo frank 19:19 < hackbard> yo re 19:27 < rxr> hi hackbard 19:27 < rxr> hj Mike1 19:27 < d3mian> hi hackbard , rxr 19:27 < Mike1> Rene hi 19:28 < Mike1> rxr: i will create a new iso for you today will see if it works 19:28 < rxr> wow great Mike1 - thanks! 19:29 < Mike1> rxr: no problem :) 19:32 -!- HiJacker [~HiJacker@RJ224179.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #rocklinux 19:32 < Mike1> oi HiJacker 19:32 < HiJacker> Mike1: E aë ??? 19:33 < HiJacker> Mike1: Vc resolveu já a atualização automáticas dos pacotes ??? 19:33 < Mike1> Como é você meu amigo? 19:33 < HiJacker> Mike1: Algo do tipo apt-get ??? 19:33 < HiJacker> Como é vc ???? 19:34 < Mike1> nós estamos desenvolvendo este mas não somos terminados 19:34 < HiJacker> Entendi !!! 19:34 < HiJacker> Mike1: Tudo bem aë ??? 19:35 < HiJacker> Mike1: Cadë o tutorial de instalação do Ropck Linux em portugues ??? 19:36 < Mike1> nenhum eu fui muito ocupado 19:36 < HiJacker> Mike1: Como está o devenvolvimento da distro aë ??? 19:36 < d3mian> hola HiJacker 19:36 < HiJacker> d3mian: Hello !!! 19:37 < Mike1> está fazendo muito bom mas nós temos muitos do trabalho 19:37 < HiJacker> Mike1: Me diga uma coisa ??? 19:37 < Mike1> sim? 19:37 < HiJacker> O rockLinux se usa src tgz ou rpm ??? 19:37 < HiJacker> NoO rockLinux se usa src tgz ou rpm ??? 19:38 < Mike1> HiJacker: tar.bz2 19:38 < HiJacker> sorry 19:39 < HiJacker> Mike1: OK !!! 19:39 < HiJacker> Mike1: Tem que compilar sempre é ??? 19:40 < Mike1> sim :)) 19:41 < Mike1> nunca use RPM com ROCK 19:43 < HiJacker> Mike1: ok !!! 19:44 < Mike1> você tem não instalar a ROCK ? 19:51 < HiJacker> Ainda não instalei o Rock !!! 19:51 < Mike1> ok 20:09 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081295B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 20:13 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DC35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B9EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 < tsa> tag 20:13 < tcr> moin 20:13 < owl> hi tsa 20:14 < Mike1> hi tsa and tcr 20:15 < d3mian> hi tcr , tsa 20:16 < owl> hi tcr 20:20 < tcr> lol 20:20 < tcr> i bet there will be nothing more than greeting :P 20:21 < Mike1> did anyone had any issues enabling sockets with php 4.2.3? 20:33 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < netcrow> re 20:33 < owl> hi netcrow 20:33 < owl> netcrow: bist du am so. beim lug-treffen? 20:33 < netcrow> keine ahnung 20:34 < owl> hmm.... 20:34 * netcrow needs a isdn-telefon 20:34 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39435.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 20:36 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DC35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 20:38 < tsa> hm... 20:41 < esden> hi all 20:41 < owl> re esden 20:41 * -> esden needs a good awk tutorial/howto 20:42 < esden> does anyone of you knowe one ? 20:42 * -> esden try's to implement usable help in ./scripts/Config 20:42 -!- Freak [freak@p5083979F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < Mike1> master esden https://kindbabylons.dyndns.org/library/books/unix2/sedawk/index.htm 20:44 * -> esden needs it in one peace ... so I can download it and read offline ... 20:45 < esden> piece 20:45 < d3mian> wget -r lazy! 20:45 < d3mian> :p 20:49 -!- HiJacker [~HiJacker@RJ224179.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 20:50 < esden> hmm ... now wgetting this book 20:50 < esden> but it woulb be much easyer if it would be a tarball ... 20:51 < esden> then I would be sure that I have it all ... 20:51 < Mike1> esden: the whole library has more than 200mb 20:52 < Mike1> esden: i think i had show you this link before 20:52 < esden> I know ... but I would linke to have the sedawk book ... 20:52 < esden> Mike1: yes you have 20:52 < Mike1> :) 20:55 < tsa> /vol/docs/misc/O'Reilly Reference Library/unix/sedawk/ 20:55 < tsa> ;-) 20:55 < d3mian> esden: https://www.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/pub/sed-awk.tar.bz2 20:55 < tsa> $ du -sh sedawk/ 20:55 < tsa> 2.6M sedawk 20:57 < esden> demian ... is this tarball the oreilly book ? 20:59 < d3mian> yes 20:59 < esden> good thanks 21:00 < esden> ok ... cu guys 21:00 < d3mian> cya esden , have fun 21:01 < tsa> cu esden 21:11 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 21:18 * Mike1 way for lunch 21:30 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:33 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 21:36 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:39 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819B96.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zzz") 21:39 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5a5c.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:44 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 21:44 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-14-4-1-dialup-243.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:46 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-14-4-1-dialup-243.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 21:47 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:56 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5be2.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:56 < owl> re 21:58 -!- chrisime is now known as chrisBUCH 22:04 * Mike1 is back 22:04 < Mike1> re all 22:11 < owl> re Mike1 22:45 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49A32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:45 < tcr> re all 22:45 < d3mian> hi tcr 22:46 < tcr> moin d3mian 22:58 -!- foze [~cvcv@dsbg-d9bbd4df.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:00 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048442.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < d3mian> cya later 23:18 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@neptune.tacomeat.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:19 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95223DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:19 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@neptune.tacomeat.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:23 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95223DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:26 * owl leaves you now. 23:26 < owl> g8 23:27 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5be2.pppool.de] has quit ("sleeping") 23:27 < tsa> cu owly 23:27 < tsa> *gaehn* 23:32 < esden> ok ... re hi all 23:32 < esden> I have implemented the help in ./scripts/Config 23:32 < esden> for now only for comment and bool items ... but I think that these are the two most importanit ... 23:33 < esden> who is willing to write the help comments ? 23:33 < esden> ;-) 23:34 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 < freed> hi @ll 23:37 < d3mian> hi freed 23:37 < d3mian> nice esden 23:37 < d3mian> re 23:37 < freed> hi d3mian 23:37 < d3mian> nice, i dunt have classes today at afternoon cause tmorrow is independance day 23:38 < esden> puhh ... patch sent to cliff 23:39 < esden> I am really thrilled what cliff will say to this implementation ... *shiver* 23:39 < esden> hi freed 23:40 < freed> hi esden 23:43 < d3mian> nice, i did a cool set of oreylly books in only 24Mb, around 20 books :-) 23:44 < esden> hmm ... that is really nice 23:45 < rxr> d3mian: hm oreilly books? online versions? Where ? 23:46 < esden> now consider that this would be only 24 seconds of wav music or 24 minutes of mp3 ... 23:46 < esden> ill stuff 23:47 < esden> ahh .. hi rxr ... you are alive ? ;-) 23:47 < tcr> rxr: a friend of mine has some 23:47 < esden> hmm ... I now remember that I wanted to send you a patch too ... @ rxr 23:48 < esden> hmm ... I will have to make the patch tomorrow ... 23:52 < esden> ok ... good night boys and girls 23:52 < freed> n8 esden 23:52 < tsa> cu esden 23:57 < Mike1> nacht esden 23:58 < rxr> hi tcr --- Log closed Sat Sep 14 00:00:14 2002