--- Log opened Sat Sep 14 00:00:14 2002 --- Day changed Sat Sep 14 2002 00:01 < litost> re Mike1 00:01 < Mike1> hi litost 00:01 < Mike1> :) 00:02 * litost was in a power trip of writing replies to rude emails :) 00:13 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048442.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:17 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49A32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 00:20 < Mike1> ok guys i leave you now 00:20 < Mike1> talk to you tomorrow 00:20 < Mike1> bye 00:20 < d3mian> cya Mike1 00:20 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:22 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has left #rocklinux () 00:34 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:34 < rxr> WOW 00:34 < rxr> Most Gnome2 stuff now compiles in my rxr tree again ;-) 00:55 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048442.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:00 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD95223DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:09 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:18 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048442.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("nacht, oh du seelige dunkle nacht...") 01:31 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:43 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:51 < tsa> n8 01:51 < tsa> *gaehn* 01:51 < d3mian> cya tsa 01:51 < tsa> cu d3mian 01:51 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B9EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:04 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:04 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:09 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:10 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 02:17 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:46 < d3mian> brb 02:46 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 02:48 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 02:49 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 02:49 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 03:04 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has quit ("leaving") 03:18 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 03:21 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AB8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:44 < huebi> moin 04:47 < d3mian> hi huebi 04:50 < huebi> moin d3mian 04:53 < huebi> d3mian: can you upload your new Check script to ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload ? 04:54 < d3mian> umm 04:54 < d3mian> gimme a second then 04:56 < huebi> brb 04:58 < d3mian> done 04:58 < d3mian> umm, nice songs of cannival corpse 04:58 < d3mian> well, cya later. have to sleep 05:04 < huebi> re 05:04 < huebi> cu d3mian 06:32 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:32 -!- hackbard is now known as defbla 06:33 < defbla> re 06:49 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090BA29.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 07:16 -!- kasc [~shaman@p50909392.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:26 -!- kasc [~shaman@p50909392.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux () 08:27 -!- Freak [freak@p5083979F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 08:28 -!- Freak [freak@p5083979F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:45 < huebi> MoeP! 09:48 * huebi just found a huge security hole at a company here around. I'll see if I get a new contract with them to solve that proplem ;-) 09:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-4-1-dialup-147.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 09:58 -!- tomik [~got_root@bremaiva.worldonline.cz] has joined #rocklinux 09:58 < tomik> hell o 10:02 < zer0_o> lo 10:11 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-4-1-dialup-147.freesurf.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:14 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-07-1-dialup-242.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 10:34 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E11B50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:34 < Be-El> hi ppl 10:39 < huebi> moin Be-El 10:39 < Be-El> ah ! doch schon jemand wach 10:39 < huebi> ;-) 10:40 < Be-El> building alsa in stage 5 fails 10:40 < Be-El> there's a missing " in the .conf file 10:40 < Be-El> line 31 10:41 < huebi> moment 10:41 < huebi> booting.... 10:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:41 < huebi> moin thalerim 10:42 < tcr> moin all 10:42 < tcr> https://freebits.de/showsecurity.php?id=329 10:43 < Be-El> moin tcr 10:47 < Be-El> *hmpf* jetzt scheitert er an den alsa-libs 10:52 < tcr> moin huebi, Be-El; 10:53 < tcr> huebi: i often encounter problems with gpm. How is it compiled? 10:54 < tcr> huebi: it works fine, but if it should work with programms that have explicit gpm support (e.g. mc's --with-gpm-mouse) i get *always* a segsv 10:54 < tcr> with twin it's the same.. 10:55 < tcr> huebi: mompl. i'll compile mc new to show you the error message 10:57 < tcr> it'll will take a while on my p200 ;) 10:57 < Be-El> anyone got problem building alsa ? 10:58 < tcr> huebi: btw. i've tried the mc-rockpkg first, but it fails on loading a dyn. lib; this lib is in the xfree86 package.. this makes me quite confusing... 10:58 < tcr> Be-El: sorry, i'm still using OSS 10:59 < Be-El> tcr: it's not about using, it's about building 10:59 < tcr> i don't use it, why should i compile it then? ;) 11:00 < Be-El> ok, that's a point 11:01 < tcr> phone 11:06 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@pD9E49D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:06 < theogenis> huebi: are you here at all? 11:06 < theogenis> huebi: here is the message anyway: 11:07 < theogenis> info: [/rock-linux/src/gpm-1.20.0/src/liblow.c(446)]: Warning: closing connection 11:07 < theogenis> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 11:07 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@pD9E49D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 11:09 < huebi> re MoeP! 11:11 < huebi> The build of 1.5.19 compiles from stage 1 to 3 without any problems here. 11:12 < huebi> This is a must for a new release. 11:14 < tcr> what's about gpm? could you verify my problems in getting the sources of mc and compile it by your own? 11:15 < huebi> tcr: What exactly do you want me to do? 11:16 < tcr> downloading the sources and doing the following the src-dir: mkdir temp; ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=/temp; make; make install; ./temp/bin/mc 11:17 < tcr> it seems that either gpm wasn't compiled properly in the 1.5.18iso or even that it doesn't compile properly always. 11:17 < huebi> ok.... 11:17 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # tar -xvIf ../base-archive/gpm/gpm-1.20.0.tar.bz2 11:18 < tcr> iirc i had the same problems in 1.5.12 as well.... 11:20 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # tar -xvIf ../base-archive/mc/mc-4.5.55.tar.bz2 11:20 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src # ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=/rock-linux/src/temp 11:21 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src/mc-4.5.55 # ./configure --with-gpm-mouse --prefix=/rock-linux/src/temp 11:21 < tcr> here i have mc-4.6.0-pre1 11:21 < tcr> but shouldn't care 11:21 < tcr> s,care,matter, 11:22 < Be-El> bbl 11:24 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux/src/mc-4.5.55 # ../temp/bin/mc 11:24 < huebi> no problem! ;-) 11:24 < tcr> hm. 11:25 < tcr> mouse is usable? 11:25 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E11B50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 11:26 < huebi> tcr: YES! 11:26 < tcr> hmmmmmm 11:27 < tcr> huebi: did you do anything on the gpm sources in the last days? 11:29 < huebi> tcr: Fell free to ask the webcvs oracle. *g* 11:29 < huebi> feel even 11:29 < huebi> brb. reboot 11:29 < huebi> to 1.5.19 11:30 < tcr> url? 11:38 < huebi> tcr: iso.rocklinux.de 11:38 < huebi> mc works perfect 11:39 < tcr> from sources or rockpkg? 11:40 < tcr> scroll above, i said something about the rockpkg 11:40 < huebi> tcr: ROCK Linux is a source based distribution... ;-) 11:41 < tcr> 10:54:08 11:41 < tcr> 10:58:45 11:41 < huebi> hmm 11:41 < huebi> nochmal... 11:41 < tcr> lol 11:41 < tcr> 10:58:06 11:41 < tcr> so! 11:48 < huebi> tcr: What the hell are you doing? ;-) All is perfect here. Could you stop overclocking your mouse, please? 11:49 < esden> hi all 11:49 < huebi> moin esden 11:50 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/ <- all changes are in here. 11:51 < esden> huebi: how is your back ? 11:51 < esden> still aking ? 11:51 < huebi> esden: Almost fine again ;-)))) 11:52 < esden> huebi: that is very good. I hope your back will be _fine_ not almost fine soon ... 11:53 < esden> what is wrong with clifford ? he created a 1.7 cvs repository ... 11:53 < esden> my realyty has coruppted because of that and I had to reboot my universe ... once again ... >_< 11:53 < esden> fscking unstable universe software ... 11:55 < tcr> huebi: i'm doing nothing, and i haven't been doing anything. 11:56 < huebi> tcr: did you try to reboot your universe? 11:56 < tcr> root@internet # shutdown -r now 11:57 < huebi> hehe 11:57 < tcr> root@internet # killall huebi 11:58 < esden> killall rocklinuxdeveldaemon 11:58 * huebi still needs to add cowsay to ROCK Linux 11:59 < esden> huebi: that is called mathildasay ! please ... 11:59 < esden> or rockmascotsay ... 12:00 < huebi> esden: just 'mathilda' would be good, too. 12:00 < esden> yes right 12:00 < esden> everyone knows what it is ;-) 12:00 < rxr> esden: Cliff and I decided that rsync doesn't scale ... 12:01 < tcr> mh 12:01 < esden> hm 12:01 < tcr> we could create a fortune db with funny mathilda sentences and write into the /etc/profile or so 12:02 < esden> tcr: so instead talking about it do it .... ;-) 12:03 < tcr> or we could change the kernel ooops smiley with a mathilda in the rock install shell 12:03 < tcr> brb! 12:03 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49D2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 12:05 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E498CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:10 < huebi> bbl 12:15 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958BB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:16 < term_emu> morgen 12:18 < esden> tcr: we had this idea also some time ago ... but noone had time/will to implement it ... 12:18 < esden> hi term_emu 12:19 -!- chrisi [~chrisime@pD9E5059A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:24 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958BB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 12:26 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958BB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:27 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:31 < blindcoder> hi all 12:32 * blindcoder _finally_ found the error in his QoS Config 12:33 < esden> re 12:33 < esden> hi blindcoder 12:33 < blindcoder> hi esden :) 12:33 < esden> old broadcaster ... >_< 12:33 < tomik> :) 12:33 < blindcoder> hehe 12:34 < blindcoder> at least I can use ssh now again when the FTP is killing the upstream :) 12:34 < esden> how is your .bashrc blindcoder ? 12:34 < tomik> blindcoder: yeah :) 12:34 < blindcoder> hehe nice :) @esden 12:34 < esden> good ;-) 12:35 < blindcoder> tomik: if you have a box that acts as a router, but apply QoS only to the INPUT and OUTPUT chains (not the FORWARD chain) then it's no fun at all >_< 12:35 < esden> hehe ... looooool 12:35 < esden> blindcoder: DU PFUSCHER (wuerde 30 sagen ;-) ) 12:35 -!- chrisBUCH [~chrisime@p50802927.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:36 < blindcoder> esden: I'm currently re-outfitting https://scavenger.homeip.net based upon the black-theme of bChat :) 12:36 < esden> ohh cool ... wanna see 12:36 < blindcoder> esden: after I tel him the difference between INPUT/OUPUT and FORWARD he would, yes :) 12:36 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/neuesdesign/ 12:37 < esden> blindcoder: loool ... du dieeeeeeb ;-) 12:38 < blindcoder> hehe 12:38 < blindcoder> hmm 12:38 < blindcoder> that openssl vulnerability... does that only affect apache or anything using openssl? 12:38 < blindcoder> (too lazy to read :) 12:40 < tomik> blindcoder: :))) 12:40 * -> esden too ... 12:41 * -> esden updated the lib ... 12:41 < snyke> hi esden 12:41 < esden> but it is affecting all what is using libssl 12:41 < esden> but the worm that is now crusing around is for apache-ssl ... 12:42 < esden> so apache is most importaint 12:42 < blindcoder> hmm i don't have ssl in my apache... 12:44 < blindcoder> for x in `ls /etc/init.d/`; do $x stop; sleep 1; $x start; done 12:44 < esden> ok ... I will be back this evening ... 12:44 < blindcoder> okay, see ya 12:53 < tcr> esden? 12:53 < tcr> damn 12:54 < tcr> esden: my new signature: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt 12:56 < blindcoder> *lol* 12:57 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B0E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:57 < martin_> hi all 12:57 < martin_> hi rxr 12:57 < tcr> blindcoder: it's published under the laws of the GPL ;) 12:58 < tomik> it's her head? 12:58 < blindcoder> hmm... my .sig is becoming larger than most of my mails >_< 12:58 < tomik> blindcoder: xe, i know it 12:59 < tcr> i should add a "Wanna become one as well? Join #rocklinux (OPN)!" 13:02 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 13:17 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < netcrow> hi 13:22 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 13:39 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50803AB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 < kvak|uninvited> cd /hi/all 13:56 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50803AB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 13:57 -!- chrisi [~chrisime@pD9E5059A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 13:58 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E5059A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E498CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 14:45 < praenti> hi 14:45 < blindcoder> hi praenti 14:45 < blindcoder> got my mail from yesterday? 14:47 < praenti> blindcoder: yes. but i dont know any solution. i will ask the next days in the lists, because i want to read my mail over ssh and mutt is the best for that 14:48 < blindcoder> that would be nice :) 14:48 < praenti> ok. im away for a few minutes 14:55 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:59 -!- defbla_ [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 -!- defbla_ [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:04 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:11 < praenti> re 15:14 < praenti> blindcoder: btw. i've a new gpg-key. you can find it on the keyserver 15:14 < praenti> fingerprint: 0A86 E8C9 399B F0D4 B637 A24C EB4A 9E6A 6912 AF2D 15:15 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 < blindcoder> which keyserver? 15:16 -!- defbla [~hackbard@pD9523E02.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:16 < praenti> x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu 15:20 -!- foze [~cvcv@dsbg-d9bbd5a1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 < blindcoder> I'm gonna kill that gpg 15:27 < praenti> ? 15:27 < praenti> whats wrong with your gpg 15:28 < blindcoder> gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys USER_ID 15:28 < blindcoder> he doesn't accept ANY format of the User ID 15:29 < praenti> blindcoder: do gpg --keyserver x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu --search-key "MIchael Obster" 15:29 < praenti> s/I/i 15:30 < blindcoder> invalid option: --search-key 15:30 < praenti> mom. then USER_ID=6912AF2D 15:31 < praenti> blindcoder: you have the same old version as aszlig 15:31 < blindcoder> yes, finally that worked 15:31 < blindcoder> it's apollo 15:32 < praenti> ahh 15:32 < blindcoder> *trying at home* 15:33 < blindcoder> hmm... we should update gpg at apollo... 15:38 * blindcoder now building ROCK for AMD K-6 15:39 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 15:40 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:47 -!- chrisime is now known as chrisAFK 15:51 -!- [anders] [~anders@62.3.122.162] has joined #rocklinux 15:51 < [anders]> moin 15:53 * [anders] is going through and purging public keys from the gpg keyring. Lots and lots of keys I didn't really want to have hanging around at a second thought... 15:53 < [anders]> if anyone is thinking about removing about 5,500 keys from the keyring, bewarned, it takes a bloody long time.. 16:06 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-) 16:07 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508175E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:07 < huebi> tach ripclaw 16:07 < ripclaw> hi huebi ! 16:08 < ripclaw> hab da ein problem - mit i486 optimierung kippt perl in stage 2 - errorlog folgt 16:08 < ripclaw> (sobald der compile fertig ist) 16:09 < ripclaw> i386 ist knap 3 tage durchgelaufen. 16:09 < bluefire> ripclaw: hoi 16:09 < ripclaw> hi bluefire. 16:09 < ripclaw> was geht heut abend ? 16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: Heroes 4 zocken. Multiplayer Patch ist endlich da. 16:10 < ripclaw> aha ! 16:10 < praenti> ripclaw: wie alt? 16:10 < ripclaw> heroes of m&m ? 16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: yep 16:10 < ripclaw> cool. hab mir sven bomwollen geholt... 16:10 < praenti> ripclaw: perl braucht nämlich ein make -j1 16:10 < ripclaw> praenti ??????? 16:10 < bluefire> ripclaw: das Spiel mit dem Schaaf? 16:11 < ripclaw> bluefire - yeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz 16:11 < praenti> is erst vor ein paar tagen anscheinend gefixed worden. 16:11 < ripclaw> praenti: 1.5.19 release. 16:12 * bluefire weiter Gtk debuggen 16:12 < ripclaw> ich teste grad huebi`s build fuer i?86, und dann fuer crosscompile 16:12 < ripclaw> bluefire - richtige annahme, das du heut abend kein bruch oder so willst ? 16:13 < bluefire> ripclaw: bin etwas knapp bei Kasse. Im Bruch tendier ich immer zu stark Richtung Cocktailbar. 16:14 < bluefire> ripclaw: Außerdem müssen wir jetzt diesen Multiplayer Patch testen ;o) 16:14 < bluefire> ripclaw: gehst du? 16:15 < ripclaw> bluefire -warscheinlich - muss aber evtl. sandra wieder etwas aufbauen, die ist doch etwas sehr neber der kapp gewesen gestern. 16:16 < bluefire> Naja. Ich wüsch dir auf alle Fälle mal viel Spaß. 16:16 < ripclaw> werd ich, garantiert. 16:16 < ripclaw> noch ne frage, richard - 16:17 < ripclaw> wie werd ich im sendmuell den hostnamen im sendername los ? 16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: schieß los 16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: sendmuell gehört in die Tonne 16:17 < bluefire> ripclaw: hab ich auch keine Ahnung. Ich benutz exim 16:17 < ripclaw> sorry, kann ich auf der box nicht anders, sonst waere das problem schon laengst gepostfixed, qmailed und zmailed. 16:18 < ripclaw> hasse den mist auch. 16:18 < ripclaw> har har - eis ist gekommen, muss wohl gleich mal was schlecken gehen :) 16:18 < bluefire> ripclaw: wie gesagt: keine Ahnung. 16:18 < ripclaw> bluefire wann zocken wir mal wieder SR ? 16:19 * bluefire hat grade Steak mittagrefuttert 16:19 * ripclaw hat ewig kein sr mehr gezockt 16:19 < bluefire> ripclaw: fallst du Ingo im Bruch triffst, sag ich mal nen schönen Gruß. 16:19 < ripclaw> mach ich. hast du seine phone schon ? 16:20 < bluefire> ripclaw: hmm... wir wollten eher mal wieder D&D spielen (ich werd leiten)... weiß aber noch nicht wann (deswegen muß ich auch Ingo noch anrufen) 16:20 < bluefire> ripclaw: yep, hab ich. 16:20 < ripclaw> ok. wenn dund bessere wuerfelsystem als adund hat, bin ich dabei, an sonsten moege wer anders meinen charsheet und wuerfel 0wn3n. 16:21 < bluefire> ripclaw: DnD 3rd edition hat ein recht brauchbares System. Außerdem ist das System eh nur Hilfe zum Spaß und nicht für Regelfurzereien gedacht. 16:22 < ripclaw> bluefire - is mir klar, aber adund regelsystem lernst du auswendig oder ignorierst das game. wenn 3rd ed ok ist, schau ichs mir gerne an. 16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: Dominik hat noch 2 Leute an der Angel, von denen hab ich aber noch nix gehört. Wenn Grimmley also wieder aus Griechenland da ist dann kommen wir mal in die Gänge. 16:23 < ripclaw> sodele - muss mal eis essen gehen 16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: Regelwerk gibts auf [insert-your-favourite-p2p-network-here] 16:23 < huebi> cu ripclaw 16:23 < ripclaw> wenn gremlin wieder da ist, und ihr spielen wollt, meld dich mal bei mir, ich bin dabei, zumindest wenns ums testen geht. 16:23 < ripclaw> cu 16:23 < bluefire> ripclaw: getestet hammer schon 16:23 * ripclaw is away having and ICE. 16:24 < ripclaw> ich abber noch net :) 16:24 < bluefire> ripclaw: bei grimley spielen wir schon 3rd edition 16:24 < bluefire> Naja... Mahlzeit ;o) 16:47 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-07-1-dialup-242.freesurf.ch] has quit () 17:06 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@neptune.tacomeat.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:06 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 * ripclaw is back 17:07 < ripclaw> kannmer mal anschauen, bluefire. 17:25 < [anders]> moin huebi.. :) 17:25 < [anders]> yo ripclaw.. :) wie gehts? 17:30 -!- chrisAFK [~chrisime@pD9E5059A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 17:37 * [anders] is having hardware problems in the box at home at the moment.. the internal ethernet doesn't work.. 17:37 < [anders]> So I am getting a new PCI ethernet card to replace the internal one.. 17:38 < [anders]> https://dabs.com/1YH9WS 17:39 < esden> re hi all 17:39 < [anders]> moin esden.how are you today? 17:39 < esden> ok ... next chunk of Config help ready ... 17:40 < esden> now we have config.hlp files to store help ... just like in the linux kernel ;-) 17:40 < esden> it is fun to fight with sed magic ;-) 17:41 < [anders]> esden: not particularly but we'll let you off.. ;-) 17:41 < esden> [anders]: I am fine thanks. and you ? 17:42 < esden> [anders]: sorry i do not understand your last post ... :-( 17:42 < [anders]> esden: apart from hardware problems and tedious hacking of gpg keyrings, not so bad.. :) 17:42 < [anders]> it is fun to fight with sed magic ;-) 17:42 < [anders]> <[anders]> esden: not particularly but we'll let you off.. ;-) 17:42 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p508175E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:43 < [anders]> esden: I was referencing 'fun' and 'sed' being used in a sentence at once.. :) 17:43 < esden> sed is fun ... for me at least ... 17:43 < esden> because it is so .... 17:43 < [anders]> hmm.. nah.. :) 17:44 < esden> brainkilling ... ;-) 17:44 < [anders]> I'd drink to that.. :) sed and awk might be useful, but they are not simple. LISP would be worse though.. 17:46 < esden> yes they are not simple ... but with enough of time investment, reading, trying and working with it gets simpler and usefull ... 17:47 < esden> I think that it would be much more a mess if I had to use pure bash scripting for some things ... like the extraction of help out of the config.hlp files 17:48 < esden> I have not tryed LISP till now ... 17:48 < esden> and since I have no use for it I do not try it ... 17:49 * -> esden needs clifford ! 17:51 < rxr> re 17:51 < esden> re rxr 17:53 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < owl> hi 17:53 < snyke> hi esden 17:53 < owl> hi snyke, esden 17:54 < esden> hi owl 17:54 < esden> hi snyke 17:54 < esden> or better re snyke 17:55 < snyke> jo 18:00 * -> esden needs the phone number from clifford ! 18:00 < esden> I mean of his cellphone so I can send an sms 18:04 < rxr> esden: the number was in some "I'm away holiday" mails on the list ... 18:04 < blindcoder> re esden 18:04 < blindcoder> hi owl 18:04 < owl> hi blindcoder 18:05 < blindcoder> hi rest :-) 18:05 < blindcoder> esden: the new design is ready, havwe a look https://scavenger.homeip.net 18:06 < esden> blindcoder: re hi ... kk will do when I got some cliff ... >_< 18:06 < blindcoder> *g* 18:07 < owl> esden: relax ;P 18:07 < esden> puhhh ... I do not need any cliff ... all updates I need are in cvs ... 18:08 < blindcoder> hehe 18:08 < blindcoder> esden: btw.: I didn't want the completed builds of kterm and xjdic but the base-config/ files that are in one of the two rock-src tarballs 18:17 < esden> ohh ... ok ... sorry .... I do it in some minutes 18:17 < esden> when I sent the diff to cliff 18:17 < blindcoder> sure :-) 18:28 < esden> ok ... patch is out of house ... let me see what I have for you crash ... 18:28 * blindcoder invoking perl-coding skills... 18:28 * blindcoder : ERROR: /usr/local/skills/perl/*: File not found 18:30 < esden> blindcoder: sorry ... I left the cd at home ... >_< 18:30 < blindcoder> home @in? 18:31 < esden> no home @w-wa 18:31 < blindcoder> okay, then please remember it next time 18:31 < esden> kk will do ... 18:32 < blindcoder> thanks :)) 18:32 < esden> denada 18:32 * -> esden needs something femail and pretty to hug ... 18:33 < esden> this comps are so ... unsoft ... and unhugable 18:34 < owl> esden: *lol* computers are sweet ;) what else do you need, if you have a PC? 18:38 < blindcoder> okay, the parsing algorythm is done... now for the difficult part... 18:39 < owl> blindcoder, esden: do you know where i can buy UDP and patch cables in IN or MUC? (as cheap as possible of course) 18:41 < esden> blindcoder: ehhmm ... what are you doing ? 18:42 < esden> owl: every computer store ... ? but cheap ... ? 18:42 < esden> no idea 18:42 < owl> esden: of course. but the point was _cheap_ ;) 18:42 < blindcoder> esden: I'm writing a log-parser for my proftpd to get listings when what user did down/upload which file 18:44 < esden> blindcoder: fine ... ... you say on your page : "too lazy to code a complete board..." 18:44 < esden> what about bboard ? 18:44 < esden> *fg* 18:44 < esden> you already wrote a board ... 18:44 < blindcoder> I'd have to crack it out of bchat first... nah... 18:45 < esden> and you can also take ... how is it called .... YABB ? 18:45 < blindcoder> *UARGH* 18:45 < blindcoder> I haven't found A SINGLE USABLE BB out there 18:46 < esden> urgh ... it seems that you are neary as critical about software as I am ... 18:47 < esden> blindcoder: I what do you think about splitting a bit the list of your films ? 18:48 < blindcoder> what do you mean? 18:49 < blindcoder> esden: let's say it this way: each and every of the boards out there use cookies.. that is simply bad or very lazy design 18:49 < blindcoder> not to mention a big source of errors 18:50 < esden> blindcoder: https://scavenger.homeip.net/board.php 18:51 < esden> blindcoder: ok ... that is an argument ... 18:52 < blindcoder> no, what do you mean with splitting? 18:52 < esden> do something so that the list is not so long ... like create directorys ... 18:53 < esden> or so 18:53 < esden> this makes the site very big ... and a mess for modem users ... ;-) 18:53 < blindcoder> grouping... a directory --> a link --> the contents 18:53 < esden> somithing like that ... 18:54 < esden> group it a bit in avi mp3 img ... 18:54 < esden> that would make it much better 18:54 < blindcoder> hmm... I'll have a look at it 18:54 < esden> or in other way 18:54 < esden> blindcoder: have you seen the board ? 18:55 < blindcoder> I've got a mail with your post :-) 18:55 < esden> aaaha ... lool 18:55 < esden> cheater ;-) 18:56 < blindcoder> hehe :-) 18:56 < blindcoder> didn't you wonder why there is NO E-Mail-Address in the whole site? 18:56 < esden> lamer ... gamer ... cheater !! *gg* 18:56 < esden> because you do not like spam ;-) 18:56 < blindcoder> and proud to be :-) 18:57 < esden> yes sure ... I know that ... 18:57 < esden> *lol* 18:57 < blindcoder> btw, you can now contact me at blindcoder at scavenger dot homeip dot net 18:58 < esden> uii ... sweet 18:58 < esden> have you moved your mails to scavenger ? 18:58 < blindcoder> not yet 18:58 < blindcoder> I need to know if it's possible to read mails with mozilla AND mutt 18:58 < blindcoder> brb 18:59 < esden> kk 19:11 < blindcoder> ew 19:11 < blindcoder> re 19:11 < esden> roe 19:14 < blindcoder> ah damnit 19:15 < blindcoder> I can trash a whole weeks' log-file because there isn't enough information in it 19:17 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder ... see it this way ... you are a looser ... but I love you anyways ;-) 19:19 < blindcoder> aah ... thank you *hugs esden* 19:20 < blindcoder> at least you believe me now that I really _AM_ a loose :) 19:20 < esden> in some situations you are ... but you are a coden ... not a user .. damn it !!! 19:21 < blindcoder> damnit... I thought finally you would believe me :) 19:23 < esden> hmm ... nobody from bingo should see https://netcrow.by-infonet.de/sys/index.php 19:23 < blindcoder> ? 19:24 < blindcoder> *click*Ü 19:24 < blindcoder> WHAT'S WITH THE MEMORY??? 19:25 < huebi> re 19:25 < esden> blindcoder: no idea ... 19:25 < blindcoder> hi huebi 19:25 < esden> we need more memory ... @crash 19:25 < esden> ;-) 19:25 < blindcoder> hmm seems like it's mysql.... 19:25 < huebi> hi blindcoder 19:25 < blindcoder> yes, we realy do :) 19:25 < huebi> hi esden 19:26 < esden> hi huebi 19:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081309A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:26 < esden> blindcoder: bug bingo about it ... 19:27 < blindcoder> eeh... you read aktive-mailinliste lately? 19:27 < esden> hehe ... they will really be happy about that ;-) 19:27 < esden> blindcoder: YES I HAVE ;-) 19:27 < esden> that is why I say it ;-) 19:27 < blindcoder> I do NOT think they will grant us another ECC-RAM... 19:27 < blindcoder> I will bug florian personally about it :) 19:28 < tcr> re all 19:28 < blindcoder> er tcr 19:28 < blindcoder> re 19:28 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... 19:28 < esden> *lol 19:28 < esden> re tcr 19:28 < tcr> esden: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt 19:30 < tcr> esden: my new sig.. but feel free to use ;-) 19:30 < esden> yes I have seen it already ... 19:30 < esden> It is really cool 19:30 < esden> I need to change my sig I think ;-) 19:33 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:33 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:34 < owl> re 19:34 < blindcoder> re owl 19:35 < blindcoder> will I ever get used to byRef-calls in Perl? *sic* 19:39 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9E1C0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 19:40 < esden> ok ... my time is over 19:40 < esden> cu all 19:40 < tcr> mom! 19:41 < tcr> geh nochmal auf die seite 19:41 -!- [anders] [~anders@62.3.122.162] has left #rocklinux ("I like core dumps") 19:41 < huebi> cu esden 19:41 < owl> bye esden 19:41 < owl> hi huebi 19:41 < esden> ??? 19:41 < huebi> tach owl 19:41 < esden> tcr: ??? 19:42 < tcr> *g* 19:42 < huebi> 19:28 < tcr> esden: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/mathilda-sig.txt 19:43 < tcr> nevermind, cu esden 19:43 < esden> and what has changed ? 19:43 < esden> hmm ... 19:43 < esden> ok ... 19:43 < tcr> huh 19:44 < tcr> fscking cache :P 19:44 -!- foze [~cvcv@dsbg-d9bbd5a1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit () 19:44 < esden> ahh ... kk 19:44 < esden> now I see 19:44 < esden> cool ;-) 19:44 < esden> cu all 19:44 < tcr> just bored 19:44 * tcr is listening to Eisregen - Meine tote russische Freundin 19:44 < esden> *rofl* 19:45 < esden> tcr: bored ? do something productive: ROCK Linux 19:45 < esden> cu ... 19:45 < tcr> exactly :P cu 19:45 < blindcoder> so that's what you call productive :) 19:46 < tcr> hmm i have to burn a CD now 19:46 < tcr> blindcoder: even going to the toilet could be quite productive 8) 19:47 < blindcoder> okay :) 19:48 < tcr> mh did anyone watch Dune yesterday? 19:48 < tcr> in fact it's the second time i was watching it and i don't get it again... what a fscking regie 19:49 < tcr> i only know something about the story, 'cause i played the PC game quite often... 19:50 < tcr> mhmmmmm the good old games... much better than every new developed game. 19:50 < blindcoder> hehe 19:50 * blindcoder currently playing serfcity 1 ;) 19:50 < tcr> what's that? 19:51 * tcr is missing games where the concept and the game itself is in focus instead of the engine... :''-( 19:53 < blindcoder> it's a build-your-world-with-your-people-and-smash-everyone-else-game 19:54 < blindcoder> in german it's "Die Siedler" 20:00 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082A9D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:00 < blindcoder> hi tsa 20:00 < tsa> hi blindcoder 20:00 < owl> hi tsa 20:00 < tsa> huhu owly. 20:03 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p5081309A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:31 < d3mian> hi 20:31 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:38 < tsa> hi d3mian 20:42 < blindcoder> okay, I'm away again... bye bye 20:43 < tsa> cu blindcoder 20:47 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:47 < owl> re 20:50 -!- Freak [freak@p5083979F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20:52 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C0CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 -!- bluefire is now known as ghost_of_bluefir 20:55 < d3mian> cya blindcoder , hi owl 20:59 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39A13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:00 < d3mian> cya 21:01 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DD90.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:07 < esden> re hi all 21:07 < esden> ;-) 21:07 < huebi> re esden 21:07 < tsa> huhu esden 21:07 < huebi> moin tsa 21:07 < tsa> hi huebi 21:07 < tsa> ..ich wart' da noch auf ne Rechnung.. ;-) 21:07 < huebi> tsa: Jo, leider ... 21:08 < tsa> wie kommt's? 21:09 < tsa> hm....irgendwer mathematisch begabt hier? Was ist der Unterschied zwischen einem euklidischen und einem unitaeren Vektorraum? 21:09 < huebi> krankt. morgen ist Wohnungsuebergabe fuer's neue Buero, uebermorgen einziehen... 21:09 < tsa> hm...achso.. 21:10 * huebi probiert gleich mal das Drucken... 21:12 < huebi> tsa: Bist du sendmail god? 21:12 < tsa> Subject: CERT Advisory CA-2002-27 Apache/mod_ssl Worm 21:12 < tsa> huebi: was hast du vor? 21:12 < huebi> tsa: email auch mal zuhause machen. nicht immer nur remote per ssh 21:12 < huebi> tsa: openssl ist jetzt auf ella erneuert 21:12 < tsa> huebi: die rock sendmail-packages laufen eigentlich aus der tuete... ;-) 21:13 < tsa> oder suchst du noch irgendein spezielles feature? 21:16 < huebi> tsa: Ich habe bisher immer die sendmail.cf von Hand angepasst. Vielleicht will ich etwas besonderes, ich weiss es aber noch nicht. 21:16 < tsa> huebi: hehe, die Einstellung gefaellt mir...ich komm mit der .mc auch nicht klar und bau immer direkt in der .cf rum.. ;-) 21:16 < huebi> huebi@thor:~ $ telnet ella 22 21:16 < huebi> Trying 192.168.100.254... 21:16 < huebi> Connected to ella.seeheim.lan. 21:16 < huebi> Escape character is '^]'. 21:16 < huebi> SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.4p1 21:17 < huebi> YES!. 21:17 < huebi> ohne reboot. 21:17 < d3mian> sth more...! 21:17 < huebi> aber mit neuen /etc/init.d/sshd 21:17 < d3mian> does 1.5.19 brings gnome2 ? 21:18 < huebi> d3mian: Not yet. I'll have to test it next week. Then I decide to put it in base or in ext. 21:18 < tcr> allah? 21:18 < tcr> lol 21:18 < tsa> yes? 21:19 < d3mian> i think u can include both, last gnome version and gnome2 (first one in base and second in ext) 21:19 < tcr> i've read alla instead of ella 21:19 < d3mian> now, bye 21:19 < huebi> cu d3mian 21:19 < tsa> tcr: terrorists everywhere in these days.. ;-)) 21:19 < tsa> cu d3mian 21:21 < d3mian> [ ankara ] ~ > ls /dev/mi* 21:21 < d3mian> /dev/midi00 /dev/midi01 /dev/midi02 /dev/midi03 /dev/mixer /dev/mixer1 21:21 < d3mian> [ ankara ] ~ > 21:21 < d3mian> sorry 21:22 < tsa> no problem.. 21:26 < huebi> BTW: use shred to wipe your old disks before you through them away. I got a nice disk with very sensible data of a company here around. A friend found it on the junk yard and gave it to me. At least encryption for senible data is needed. 21:28 < esden> puhh .. patch sent 21:29 < huebi> esden: did you do sth on Build-All 21:29 < huebi> ? 21:29 < esden> no sorry .. I have not enough space for 1.5 sources .... and to test the build ... 21:29 < esden> I will be able to do it when I am back in ingolstadt >_< 21:30 * -> esden now off to implement multilingual scripts/Config .. ;-) 21:30 < esden> and add some more packets to esden ... 21:31 < esden> pinfo already added 21:31 < esden> ok ... cu all I am off again 21:32 < tsa> cu esden, have fun.. 21:32 < huebi> cu esden 21:35 < owl> cu esden 21:35 < term_emu> cu all 21:35 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958BB11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 22:06 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 22:11 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B0E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:21 < huebi> brb. 23:14 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DD90.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("reconnect") 23:18 < huebi> re 23:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813AFF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:29 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@141.82.25.63] has joined #rocklinux 23:59 < owl> g8.cu 23:59 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54ac.pppool.de] has quit ("sleeping") --- Log closed Sun Sep 15 00:00:32 2002