-!- Irrsi Log opened Mon Sep 16 00:00:50 2002
[00:27] < fake> hi
[00:27] < fake> ...
[00:30] < tsa> hi fake..
[00:33] < fake> hi tsa
[00:34] < fake> so finally i am back on the net
[00:34] fake just got his wlan-card working
[00:35] < fake> if just somebody had told me to "ifconfig up" it after iwconfig...
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[00:36] < tsa> hehe..
[00:38] fake is now officially located in Ingolstadt, Bonn is history.
[00:38] < tsa> how come?
[00:41] < fake> tsa: the company i worked for in bonn is-no-more(tm)
[00:41] < fake> now i am finishing my training in munich
[00:42] < fake> and getting a flat in munich is pretty hard, so i live at my mum's for now
[00:42] < tsa> i see..
[00:43] < fake> i will finally start work on rock again tomorrow
[00:43] < fake> now that my wlan works ;)
[00:46] < fake> and now i'm off again, sleeping
[00:47] < fake> scheiss pendeln... muss um 6:30 aufstehen damit ich um 9 anfangen kann ... -_-
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[01:58] < tsa> n8
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[02:43] < mnemoc> hi
[02:45] < mnemoc> i had a little problem building package glibc on my rh 7.2... now all i get i segfault
[02:46] < mnemoc> booting with the img of 1.5.19 i did mount mi ext3 rh's root forcing etx2
[02:46] < mnemoc> i can relink /lib to my original glibc 2.2.4 but after umounting it everything is undone :<
[02:47] < mnemoc> any idea?
[02:47] < mnemoc> do you have any rescue disk wih ext3 support?
[02:47] < mnemoc> is that the problem or i have a gremlin around?
[02:47] < mnemoc> pleeeease
[02:49] < mnemoc> :(
[02:50] < mnemoc> (i was trying to build 1.7 on a rh7.2 over a P3)
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[03:06] < mnemoc_> anybody here?
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[03:19] < mnemoc_> ...
[03:20] < mnemoc_> please :(
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[03:30] < mnemoc> how could everybody being away? :( i just need an advice
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[04:20] < mnemoc> hello?
[04:20] < SMP> well
[04:21] < mnemoc> can you help me with a problem with glibc?
[04:22] < SMP> what exactly did you do when you were "building package glibc on my rh 7.2"?
[04:22] < mnemoc> i have a redhat 7.2 on my box
[04:22] < mnemoc> and i did Build-pkg glibc
[04:23] < SMP> eww
[04:23] < mnemoc> :<
[04:23] < SMP> why the hell did you do that?
[04:23] < mnemoc> i don't know :\
[04:23] < SMP> you need to reinstall the glibc.rpm
[04:23] < mnemoc> i tried to revert it fixing the links
[04:24] < mnemoc> and it worked.... in a chroot env
[04:24] < mnemoc> but after umounting my root everything was undone :<
[04:24] < SMP> not quite
[04:25] < SMP> you mean "after a reboot"?
[04:25] < mnemoc> no...
[04:25] < mnemoc> the redhat dies
[04:25] < mnemoc> booting rock 1.4
[04:26] < mnemoc> i did mount my dead root
[04:26] < mnemoc> fix the links
[04:26] < mnemoc> sync
[04:26] < mnemoc> umount
[04:26] < mnemoc> but if i remount it, i can see that all the cahnges were gone
[04:26] < SMP> hu
[04:27] < mnemoc> i guess because it's ext3, and i force it to mount as ext2
[04:27] < SMP> hmm, yes that may be
[04:28] < mnemoc> any idea?
[04:28] < SMP> you should clear the has_journal flag
[04:28] < SMP> then fsck and then mount
[04:28] < mnemoc> fsck.ext2?
[04:28] < SMP> hmm no
[04:28] < mnemoc> how could i clear that flag?
[04:29] < SMP> 1.4 doesn't have a tune2fs that knows about has_journal
[04:29] < SMP> ;-(
[04:29] < mnemoc> :(
[04:29] < mnemoc> 1.5.19?
[04:29] < mnemoc> i have that too
[04:29] < mnemoc> (i just finish donwloading it)
[04:29] < SMP> I guess that will do
[04:30] < SMP> tune2fs -O ^has_journal /path/to/device ; fsck -t ext2 -f /path/to/device
[04:30] < mnemoc> after or before fixing the links?
[04:31] < SMP> prior to anything else
[04:31] < mnemoc> after that i'll have an ext2?
[04:31] < SMP> yeah well
[04:32] < SMP> hmmm
[04:33] < SMP> I'm not too sure about all this
[04:33] < SMP> you sound very strange
[04:33] < SMP> no offence ;>
[04:33] < SMP> 1.5.19 should be able to handle ext3 just fine
[04:33] < mnemoc> my english or what i'm talking about?
[04:35] < SMP> oh, I can understand you fine, it's just I can't completely explain it
[04:35] < mnemoc> ext3 is not supported by the kernel that boots the 1.5.19 cdrom :<
[04:35] < mnemoc> i'll do the tunefs
[04:35] < SMP> oh
[04:36] < SMP> also, just fixing the links won't help completely
[04:36] < mnemoc> ldconfig?
[04:36] < SMP> ldconfig will undo that
[04:36] < mnemoc> ?
[04:36] < SMP> you need to move away the bad libs and then run ldconfig
[04:37] < mnemoc> ldconfig preferes that newest?
[04:37] < mnemoc> s/that/the
[04:37] < SMP> sort of
[04:38] < mnemoc> # tune2fs -O.... "this is the El torito (cd-rom boot) ....."
[04:39] < SMP> do you have a swap partition?
[04:39] < mnemoc> yep
[04:39] < SMP> how big is it?
[04:39] < mnemoc> 512
[04:39] < SMP> mkfs it, mount it
[04:39] < mnemoc> and i have the 8GB i wanted to use with rock
[04:39] < SMP> then tar xvspIf ../subdists/rescue.tar.bz2
[04:39] < SMP> on it
[04:40] < mnemoc> that sounds great :D
[04:41] < SMP> the kernel in the rescue system should support ext2
[04:41] < SMP> ehm. ext3
[04:41] < SMP> at least as a module
[04:42] < SMP> so if you want to try, you can even with a little tweaking in /etc boot into it
[04:43] < mnemoc> subdists has install-disk.tar.bz2 and rock-readonly.tar.bz2 .... not recue :<
[04:43] < SMP> arrgh
[04:43] < SMP> what did they do to my rescue subdist?!
[04:44] < mnemoc> :D
[04:44] < mnemoc> kill them all
[04:46] < mnemoc> abaout glibc.... if i fix links, delete 2.2.5 and then ldconfig.... may it work?
[04:46] < SMP> it should
[04:47] < SMP> I'm not even sure as to why RH broke in the first place
[04:47] < SMP> just installing 2.2.5 doesn't hurt anyone
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[04:47] < SMP> well, apart from that rpm be complaining badly ;}
[04:48] < mnemoc> :)
[04:48] < mnemoc> i was builing glibc pkg from 1.7 and after some time a got a segfault
[04:48] < mnemoc> after that... everything was segfaulted
[04:49] < mnemoc> i run ldconfig succesfull, than reboot and ... no more redhat
[04:49] < mnemoc> init crashed
[04:49] < mnemoc> sh crashed...
[04:50] < SMP> make a note: don't do a standalone Build-Pkg without practicing first. never ever Build-Pkg glibc unless you know exactly what you're doing
[04:50] < SMP> ;>
[04:51] < mnemoc> i had builden glibc before .. over redhat... but by hand :<
[04:53] < mnemoc> i was trying to build a 'base' rock usign Build-Pkg because rescue had X11 and many other things
[04:54] mnemoc acted stupidly :'(
[04:54] < SMP> Build-Pkg doen't do what you think it does ;)
[04:55] < mnemoc> how is supossed that i should 'start'? ... 1.5 -base was useful
[04:55] < mnemoc> building a generic with X11 and corelpaint?
[04:56] < mnemoc> :{
[04:56] < acm_scl> is a clean way to Build a src whithout need to installit and then Build the tar.bz2??
[04:56] < acm_scl> btw, HI to all
[04:56] < acm_scl> :]
[04:56] < mnemoc> hi
[04:59] < SMP> mnemoc: you need to remove the unwanted packages from the build system (by deleting them in the tree and running Puzzle or by editing scripts/packages and _not_ running Puzzle afterwards)
[04:59] < SMP> and then do a normal Build-All
[04:59] < SMP> there is no easy way in 1.5
[04:59] < SMP> this is fixed in 1.7
[05:02] < mnemoc> i should remove them from ./scripts/Config and then Puzzle?
[05:02] < SMP> no, from base-config
[05:03] < SMP> i.e. to remove sendmail, do rm -rf base-config/sendmail ; ./scripts/Puzzle
[05:03] < mnemoc> ok
[05:05] < mnemoc> thanks for all
[05:06] < SMP> np
[05:16] < mnemoc> i have my rh back!!!! :>
[05:16] < mnemoc> happy happy joy joy
[05:16] < mnemoc> thanks SMP
[05:17] < mnemoc> see you soon :}
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[06:29] < huebi> moin
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[07:07] < huebi> vsftpd is now in 1.5.19
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[09:36] < [anders]> meow
[09:36] < [anders]> how are people today then? everyone had a nice weekend?
[10:53] < praenti> moin
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[10:53] < martin_> hi all
[10:53] < martin_> hi rxr? ups
[11:03] < huebi> moin praenti
[11:03] < huebi> moin [anders]
[11:06] < esden> hi all
[11:07] < esden> have I read it correctly ? rh ? mnemoc seems to be a total moron ... >_<
[11:10] < praenti> hi esden. moron?
[11:13] < esden> praenti: read irc log 04:55 to 05:17
[11:13] < esden> today morning
[11:13] < huebi> moin esden
[11:13] < praenti> esden: i've seen that. but i dont understand the word moron. i would say he is complete dau who dont want to read documentation ;.)
[11:24] < esden> nono ... that is not what I meant
[11:24] < esden> that is right that this guy is not reading enough
[11:25] < esden> but I meant this: "[05:16] < mnemoc> i have my rh back!!!! :>"
[11:25] < esden> ^^
[11:25] < esden> ups
[11:25] < esden> ^^
[11:26] < esden> that is what I meant
[11:26] < esden> this is "rh" and what that shauld mean ?
[11:26] < esden> I hope not RotKaeppchen !
[11:26] < esden> that is why I said moron
[11:27] < esden> praenti: moron = depp
[11:31] < praenti> that is another point why i say dau
[11:31] praenti now away at lunch
[11:35] < esden> hmm ... not good ... I have to fix my mozilla !
[11:35] < esden> guys do you already know about the mozilla referrer bug ?
[11:36] < esden> it is a privicy bug ...
[11:39] < esden> https://members.ping.de/~sven/mozbug/refcook.html
[11:39] < esden> ok cu all
[12:07] < praenti> re
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[15:19] < praenti> huebi: if anybody needs a dyndns address from the rock developer i've rocklinux.homelinux.com/net/org
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[15:22] < Mike1> Good day all
[15:24] < praenti> hi Mike1
[15:27] < [anders]> meep Mike1
[15:27] < [anders]> <- tired and got too much to do..
[15:28] < esden> hi all
[15:53] < Mike1> hi praenti [anders]
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[15:53] < Mike1> masters esden :)
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[15:59] < esden> hi Mike1
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[16:18] < xlock> huhu
[16:19] < xlock> hmm, libtermcap.so is missing on my root-disk
[16:20] < xlock> ... and kdebase requires cracklib (drock)
[16:21] < esden> hi
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[17:07] < tcr> moin all
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[17:21] < d3mian> hi all
[17:27] < Mike1> hi d3mian
[17:28] < d3mian> Mike1: !!
[17:29] < d3mian> i have several probs with gnome using 1.5.19 :(
[17:29] < d3mian> ilegal instruction (core dumped)
[17:30] < Mike1> d3mian: i have not worked on 1.5.19 yet
[17:30] < Mike1> is it still using gnome1?
[17:30] Mike1 is totally sure it is
[17:31] < d3mian> huebi told me he will do some tests for gnome2 this week, meanwhile gnome1
[17:31] < Mike1> sure
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[18:19] < Mike1> re tcr
[18:19] < tcr> yo ;-)
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[19:10] < Mike1> hackbard: !!
[19:10] < hackbard> Mike1 !! :)
[19:10] < hackbard> hola!
[19:10] < Mike1> how are you ?
[19:10] < hackbard> fine thanx, i am right now at syrx's place
[19:12] < hackbard> how are you?
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[19:14] < martin_> hi
[19:14] < tcr> moin
[19:22] < Mike1> ls
[19:22] < litost> no such file or directory
[19:22] < Mike1> *g
[19:22] < Mike1> @ litost :)
[19:23] < litost> 8)
[19:23] < litost> what's up Mike1
[19:23] < Mike1> nothing much my friend working a lot as usual
[19:23] < Mike1> you ?
[19:24] < Mike1> and working hard on getting my voice back
[19:24] < litost> same here, i'm at my boring job
[19:24] Mike1 is sick and he's voice went away since friday
[19:24] < Mike1> litost: my job is not boring at all, it keeps me very busy
[19:25] < litost> that's good, i'm kinda tired of mine
[19:26] < Mike1> litost: i just sent my resumee to a couple of companies i wanna get out of here too, but i guess it is for different reasons than yours
[19:27] < litost> yea, probably so. i'm going to start the job hunt soon.
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[19:36] < Mike1> coldie_: Hi Jeff :)
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[20:24] < _NULL> hi
[20:32] < blindcoder> hi du NULL :)
[20:33] < _NULL> hi blindcoder
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[21:09] < esden> hi al
[21:09] < esden> l
[21:09] < Mike1> wb esden
[21:09] < esden> blindcoder: are you here !!!
[21:09] < esden> wb Mike1
[21:09] < blindcoder> nope
[21:09] < esden> good
[21:09] < blindcoder> hi esden
[21:09] < _NULL> hi esden, hi Mike1
[21:09] < esden> ok ich muss mit dir reden
[21:10] < blindcoder> scheiss äh schiess los :)
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[21:10] < Mike1> re hackbard
[21:11] < hackbard> hi gain
[21:11] < hackbard> again*
[21:11] < Mike1> +a
[21:11] < Mike1> :)
[21:11] < _NULL> hi hackbard
[21:12] < blindcoder> hi hackbard
[21:14] _NULL is looking for her bed right now.
[21:14] < _NULL> g8. cu
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[21:16] < esden> hi hackbard
[21:16] < hackbard> hi blindcoder ,hi esden
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[21:24] < rxr> #join gsmp
[21:24] < rxr> uups
[21:25] < blindcoder> g'night evryone...
[21:25] < Mike1> n8 cap blindcoder
[21:26] < Mike1> hi rxr
[21:26] < rxr> hi Mike1
[21:26] < rxr> irrsi has crashed here ...
[21:26] < rxr> strange ...
[21:33] < Mike1> huebi: awake?
[21:38] < esden> hi rxr
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[21:43] < tsa> moin.
[21:43] < Mike1> hi tsa
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[21:44] < esden> hi tsa
[21:44] < tsa> hi Mike1
[21:44] < tsa> hi esden
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[21:51] < tsa> rotfl.
[21:51] < tsa> https://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020915
[21:53] < rxr> n8
[21:54] < esden> n8 rxr
[21:56] < tsa> cu rxr
[22:19] < huebi> moin ;-)
[22:20] < esden> moin huebi
[22:20] < esden> und nachtele ... ich gehe naemlich ins betti
[22:20] < esden> cu guys ... n8
[22:21] < huebi> cu esden
[22:21] < Mike1> huhu huebi
[22:22] < huebi> hi Mike1 ;-)
[22:22] < Mike1> huebi: why not keep both lprng and cups on the base?
[22:22] < Mike1> huebi: everything good?
[22:23] < huebi> lprng does not work together with cups.
[22:23] < Mike1> i know but some of us still like to use lprng in stead of cups
[22:24] < huebi> lprng can become an extension if you like that.
[22:24] < huebi> brb.
[22:24] < Mike1> ...
[22:24] < Mike1> ok
[22:27] < huebi> re
[22:27] < huebi> Mike1: DO you like the idea of an extension?
[22:27] < huebi> hmm
[22:27] < huebi> brb.
[22:30] < martin_> n8
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[22:37] < Mike1> huebi: yeah an extension would work just fine
[22:40] < huebi> Mike1: Do you like to build the extension?
[22:41] < praenti> to all germans: für die wahl evtl interessant: https://www.computerwoche.de/index.cfm?pageid=254&artid=40683&category=84
[22:41] < Mike1> huebi: mm... i am currently 1/2 a bit busy guess i will do it tomorrow or so
[22:41] < huebi> Mike1: That would be great.
[22:42] < Mike1> huebi: i am trying to make work abiword, gnumeric, magic point and evolution along with my gnome2 system
[22:42] < Mike1> though a lot of dependencies are missing
[22:42] < praenti> huebi: have you seen such an error:
[22:42] < praenti> == 22:36:10 =[5]=> Building base package curl [7.9.8 1.5.19].
[22:42] < praenti> Pkg-Config: curl.desc curl.conf/rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 2: [COPY]: command not found
[22:42] < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 3: [COPY]: command not found
[22:42] < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: line 4: [COPY]: command not found
[22:42] < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: /rock-linux/base-config/curl/curl.conf: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[22:42] < praenti> /rock-linux/scripts/Build-Pkg: /rock-linux/base-config/curl/curl.conf: line 5: `[COPY] ROCK Linux is Copyright (C) 1998 - 2002 Clifford Wolf' done.
[22:42] < praenti> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/5-curl.out
[22:42] < praenti> Creating md5sums and cksums of package curl ... done.
[22:43] < huebi> praenti: No, I havn't. I just make a new checkout of the cvs tree.
[22:43] < praenti> huebi: could it be that there should no curl.conf.
[22:43] < praenti> looks like a standard 1.7 conf ;-)
[22:44] < praenti> with no special compile instructions
[22:44] < huebi> (I'm just moving my office to a flat in the house next door. only 2 computers a left here.)
[22:45] < Mike1> huebi: sounds having fun?
[22:45] < huebi> kernel 2.2.22 is out
[22:45] < Mike1> sounds like*
[22:45] < huebi> Mike1: Yes. Most of the work is now done.
[22:45] < Mike1> huebi: good
[22:46] < Mike1> huebi: is kind of hard to keep updated with the current cvs tree, damn work keeps getting on my way
[22:47] < huebi> Mike1: I just put everything in cvs. The cvs tree _is_ also my official tree
[22:47] < Mike1> hehe yes i have seen that
[22:48] < Mike1> my biggest problem is that cvs tree differes with mine in several packages
[22:48] < Mike1> but hopefully this will change in a near future
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[23:18] < praenti> gn8
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[23:21] < Mike1> night praenti
[23:22] < huebi> cu praenti
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[23:57] < huebi> good night. I just started a new, clean bild. cu tomorrow.
[23:58] < Mike1> n8 huebi
[23:58] < tsa> cu huebi...
[23:58] < tsa> <- still waiting for invoice..
[23:59] < huebi> tsa: Printing works since yesterday... I still have to move tomorrow
[23:59] < tsa> ok..
-!- Irrsi Log closed Tue Sep 17 00:00:07 2002