-!- Irrsi Log opened Wed Sep 25 00:00:31 2002
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[00:07] < fake> arghl.
[00:07] < _NULL> moin fake
[00:07] < fake> hi owl
[00:08] < _NULL> fake: check in ein paar minuten mal deine mails... ;P
[00:08] < _NULL> *bitte
[00:09] < fake> why?
[00:11] < fake> und welche addresse...
[00:11] < _NULL> fake@bingo-ev.de
[00:11] < fake> hm
[00:12] < _NULL> gerade abgeschickt... (vor 2 sekunden oder so...)
[00:12] < fake> hmhm
[00:12] < _NULL> hm?
[00:12] < fake> ich geh nur in 5 sekunden ins bett
[00:13] < _NULL> schlecht... btw, wie geht's dir?
[00:13] < fake> gesundheitlich? geht so.
[00:13] fake is jetz wieder wech
[00:13] < fake> hab nur gesehen ob ich ne reaktion auf meine patches von gestern von cliff bekomm... nichts... :(
[00:14] < _NULL> hm. bist du morgen im zug (07:53 und 17:53??)
[00:14] < fake> normalerweise ja?
[00:14] < _NULL> gesundheitlich und auch von der stimmung her...
[00:14] < fake> gn8
[00:14] < _NULL> oki. um 17:53 - letztes abteil... ?
[00:14] < _NULL> gn8
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[02:13] < rolla> fake ?
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[02:26] < h0h0> anyone here happen to have some experiance with joysticks?
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[03:17] < demian> re
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[07:42] < huebi> moin
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[09:24] < huebi> moin [anders]
[09:24] < [anders]> hullo huebi :) how are you today?
[09:26] < huebi> fine. I'm now bussy with the wlan stuff to connect my office to my home. Not so much documentation on that and many different drivers are avaliable.
[09:29] < [anders]> huebi: you will have lots of fun tinkering with that then.. :) I wish I could afford some wlan stuff, but at the moment I will have to be careful with money..
[09:30] < [anders]> huebi: my estranged wife is trying to get her hands on all money I have, even if it is tied up in my company or in assets like car and house..
[09:30] < huebi> [anders]: I have to be carefull with money, too.
[09:30] < [anders]> from the way she is talking, she is hoping to get a ¤30,000 payout from me..
[09:31] < huebi> [anders]: I think you both really need a consense. Not a huge war.
[09:31] < [anders]> huebi: I am, and have been, trying to keep a level head, not do silly things and above all, be fair..
[09:32] < [anders]> huebi: at the moment I need to get legal advice, so will book time with a solicitor to talk things through. The last thing I want to do is to do something illegal..
[09:33] < [anders]> (and solicitors know how to charge their customers.... ¤75 per 30 minutes.. *ouch*)
[09:33] < [anders]> and that is ex. VAT.. so more on top to pay.. :-/
[09:35] < huebi> To spend money for your company is easy. Then you have nothing. But the goal should be that she gets all she needs to do everything which is needed for your daughter to grow up with all possibilities for her life.
[09:39] < [anders]> huebi: I want to do all I can for my daughter, what I do not want to do is give my estranged wife big cheques for her to spend.. I am to provide a comfortable life for my daughter, not my ex wife..
[09:40] < huebi> ACK
[09:41] < huebi> What about a mediation, I meen a talk guided by someone good in that job, to get a woking conclusion for you and your ex wife?
[09:43] < [anders]> huebi: With the debts my estranged wife has run up for herself, (>¤18,000), she will not sit down and talk and agree to something sensible.. As far back as I can remember, she has wanted to spend as much as she can, preferably without working to earn any...
[09:44] < huebi> hmm...
[09:48] < [anders]> after the move to sweden, the house in england was sold. most of the proceeds from the sale, as well as some money I added to it was given to her to pay a loan off.. She didn't...
[09:53] < [anders]> So giving her money to help her reduce her debts has already been tried and failed. The only way I will assist in paying debts off for her is if I give the money straight to the bank.. And my view is that I already have paid one of her loans..
[09:54] < huebi> I still think it needs a conclusion with her. But therefore I'm not a specialist. I'm only really good in fighting and also winning _everytime_ the war against somebody. But I had to learn that distroyed people are not that what I want.
[09:55] < huebi> [anders]: Well, then you could agree with her to pay a loan directly pay a loan to the bank for her. Then She has no problem with it and the money, too.
[09:57] < [anders]> huebi: if it wasn't for the fact that she has had all(?) her debts consolidated into one big loan. So I can not pay one without paying all the others as well.. I suppose I could haggle with her bank about depositing in towards the loan, without actually paying all of it..
[09:59] < [anders]> huebi: I see what you mean and understand what you are saying to me. I am not interested in destroying her.. But I am not in the mood to be taken for a ride either.. I may be a gentle person that is a little to helpful at times, but I am not stupid to the point of self-obliteration either..
[10:02] < [anders]> huebi: I received a letter from the CSA (Child Support Agency) yesterday. Despite being told by my estranged wife they were not involved as I was paying volountary maintenance for my daughter, she has dragged them into this. *sigh* Now I have to sit down and fill in forms upon forms and be threatened by an agency that has a proven record of being incompetent and man-hating.. I am thrilled at the next 'helpful' thing she will do..
[10:05] < barthel> moin, moin... hi... a good day for everyone...
[10:09] < [anders]> hullo barthel, and a good day to you too.. :)
[10:12] < huebi> hi barthel
[10:17] < barthel> i'm a new ROCKER ;-) and speak/write a very bad english... sorry
[10:18] < barthel> i've install rock from rock-iso 1.5.19 with 'menu' and select my own packages...
[10:19] < barthel> now i would setup my desktop from the sources... what i have to do ?
[10:19] < barthel> now i run ./scripts/Download -base
[10:19] < huebi> barthel: first ./scripts/Puzzle
[10:20] < huebi> barthel: then ./scripts/Download -base
[10:20] < barthel> ok... i forgott... first i run ./scripts/Config
[10:20] < huebi> barthel: that's ok, too
[10:20] < barthel> great ;-)
[10:21] < th> moin
[10:21] < huebi> but before download you need to run ./scripts/Puzzle
[10:21] < huebi> huhu th ;-)
[10:24] < barthel> ok i breaked Download and run Puzzle... but now Download give me some Error 400
[10:26] < huebi> barthel: post it, please
[10:28] < th> ./scripts/Update .
[10:32] < barthel> its on another phys. console... :-/
[10:33] < barthel> it was only the first packages... now it run...
[10:37] < huebi> barthel: How much knowledge do you have about Linux? It's more simple to answer questions on a known background.
[10:39] < barthel> i work under debian since 1998...
[10:39] < huebi> barthel: Thank you. ;-)
[10:40] < praenti> moin
[10:40] < huebi> hi praenti
[10:41] < barthel> i would change to rock for a better perf. and optim. linux on my maschine
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[10:42] < huebi> hi bluefire
[10:42] < barthel> in debian is i386 or i486 but i have two i686...
[10:42] < barthel> hi praenti and bluefire
[10:42] < bluefire> moin
[10:42] < bluefire> hi huebi
[10:42] < barthel> moin moin
[10:43] < huebi> barthel: I measured a performance gain of up to 12,5% for AMD Athlon XP ;-))
[10:43] < barthel> cool...
[10:44] < praenti> i think i will now compile a rock-1.7
[10:45] < barthel> but before i'm lucky i've a hard work to understand and build rock...
[11:08] < barthel> if i run ./scripts/Update ., then i've run ./scripts/Puzzle too ?
[11:08] < huebi> barthel: Yes. After ./scripts/Update.
[11:09] < th> NAK NAK NAK
[11:10] < th> talking about rock-1.5 scripts/Update does puzzle automatically
[11:10] < barthel> how i can return to start and become a clean buildsystem ? do ./scripts/Cleanup this job ?
[11:11] < th> barthel: what problems do you have with your current build system?
[11:12] < barthel> some broken networkconnections and file not found errors...
[11:12] < th> of which packages?
[11:12] < th> and still after doing Update . ?
[11:12] < barthel> now i've a stable connection and i would start again.
[11:13] < barthel> yep f.e. ammonite
[11:13] < th> barthel: after Update . has finished all package-information should be fine
[11:13] < th> lemme check ammonite
[11:13] < praenti> barthel: what do you do? do you build or do you download?
[11:13] < th> ./scripts/Download -package ammonite
[11:13] < th> ...
[11:13] < barthel> i download
[11:13] < th> --11:13:44-- ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/stable/sources/ammonite/ammonite-1.0.2.tar.bz2
[11:13] < huebi> barthel: post the errors, please. "Something is broken" is not a very good help to help you.
[11:13] < th> 11:13:50 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[11:14] < th> barthel: it's ok that package is broken
[11:14] < th> barthel: you could supply a patch to ammonite.pz that fixes that
[11:14] < barthel> yep... 404 (sorry bad errorcode in my mind)
[11:14] < th> barthel: would be of much help
[11:15] < barthel> ...
[11:15] < th> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/stable/ does not exist
[11:15] < th> perhaps there are no stable versions of gnome stuff? *eg*
[11:15] < huebi> ack ;>
[11:16] < th> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/stable/sources/ has been changed to ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/
[11:16] < th> interesting
[11:16] < th> i'll fix that. barthel: stay tuned
[11:16] < praenti> do we have to switch to gnome2? thats a lot of work...
[11:16] < barthel> thx ;-)
[11:17] huebi is bussy with wavelan testing...
[11:17] < huebi> praenti: The work is done by [anders] AND MIGUEL ;-)
[11:17] < barthel> yes i have to switch to gnome2 !
[11:18] < praenti> cool
[11:18] < th> barthel: do a ./scripts/Update ammon now
[11:19] < [anders]> praenti: I have a cvs tree of the gnome2 work that Miguel, me and some others are working on.. No anoncvs access yet, I have to cfg that (as soon as I have some spare time..)
[11:19] < praenti> huebi: but this work is not in your cvs, right?
[11:20] [anders] really needs a good network setup at home.. firewall, bastion-host, internal firewall etc..
[11:20] < huebi> praenti: No, it isn't. I had no time to do that. Perhaps I have the time to definitly fix linux* tonight and then the installdisks for intel...
[11:21] < praenti> huebi: whats wrong there?
[11:21] < barthel> th: done; thx
[11:21] [anders] already spent hours yesterday taking the updates from huebi's cvs and patching own cvs to get it up2date..
[11:22] < huebi> praenti: Just doesn't work at all ;-))
[11:22] < praenti> i see.
[11:22] < praenti> iw ill read the install_bin.c today afternoon. perhaps i can find aout how the installer works with the ext-pkgs
[11:24] < th> barthel: just report such errors to mailing list. or send patches to .pz files
[11:25] < barthel> if my desktop working i would do that, but just moment i'm standing before startline...
[11:27] < barthel> if i run ./scripts/Download -base what packages would download ? on rocklinux.de in repos. base not shown ammonite, but it would downloaded by Download...
[11:28] < barthel> SORRY uggly english :-/
[11:29] < praenti> barthel: sags auf deutsch. ich weiß net was du sagen willst. zumindest nicht genau
[11:30] < barthel> also: welche pakete werden von Download -base herruntergeladen ? im repos. 'base' auf rocklinux.de gibt es kein 'ammonite' es wurde trotzdem versucht herrunterzuladen...
[11:31] < praenti> barthel: when you look at your rock directory there is a base-config and an ext-config
[11:31] < praenti> the subdirectories ind this two directories are the packages
[11:32] < praenti> if you type -base you get all packages in base-config
[11:32] < barthel> aaahhhaaa... ok... i understand...
[11:33] < barthel> if i don't like kde, then i delete the subdirs ?
[11:33] < praenti> after that you got the directories base-archive and opt-archive (this one comes from /scripts/unsorted.pz)
[11:34] < praenti> barthel: yes you can do that. but dont forget after that you must repuzzle
[11:34] < praenti> and now i must go to lunch. cu later
[11:34] praenti at lunch
[11:34] < barthel> ok... ;-)
[11:37] < barthel> how i change in ./scripts/Config the number of par. make ? (make -j) if i press enter i can't change this value.
[11:43] < barthel> th: some more broken ftp-links: f.e.: ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/unstable/sources/esound/esound-0.2.28.tar.bz2
[11:45] < barthel> if i've to do a ./scripts/Update -base... right ?
[12:05] praenti back
[12:05] < praenti> barthel: the last option. delete the number and write your number
[12:05] < praenti> ;-)
[12:06] < praenti> but in some cases you need to do that in the text-console and not under x cause you cannot delete the number
[12:06] < barthel> praenti: i don't understand that
[12:07] < praenti> barthel: i dont understand that also, why this happens...
[12:08] < praenti> barthel: another way to change that is to edit the Config in your rock-directory
[12:08] < barthel> i'm working only in text-shell. i've two cpu's why i don't work with both by making sources ?
[12:08] < praenti> barthel: here you can configure that by the line export ROCKCFG_MAKE_JOBS='6'
[12:08] < praenti> for example
[12:09] < barthel> ah, ok...
[12:09] < praenti> barthel: on what system do you want to build rock?
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[12:10] < esden> hi all
[12:10] < barthel> dual-pentiumII a 800 MHz
[12:10] < praenti> hi esden. when do you come back to ingolstadt
[12:10] < john_22> see you all tomorrow
[12:10] < john_22> gtgh
[12:10] < barthel> hi esden
[12:10] < praenti> barthel: no. i thought about your linux system
[12:10] < john_22> thanks guys
[12:10] < esden> not before end of the next week
[12:10] < esden> cu john_22
[12:10] < barthel> rock linux from rock-iso 1.5.19
[12:11] < praenti> barthel: this is very strange
[12:11] < praenti> on debian i had said old ncurses
[12:11] < john_22> thanks esden
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[12:12] < barthel> ...
[12:13] < barthel> understand ./scripts/Update the '-all' or '-base' ?
[12:15] < barthel> praenti: yesterday i install the rock from scratch... with the rock-iso 1.5.19
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[12:49] < esden> cu all
[12:49] < huebi> authtype=opensystem
[12:49] < huebi> cu esden
[12:49] < esden> let the rock be with you
[12:49] < huebi> hehe
[12:49] < praenti> yes
[12:57] < barthel> ftp.gnome.org has change the ftp-structure ! no gnome-package where download from ./scripts/Download f.e.: audiofiles moves from /pub/gnome/stable/sources/audiofile to /pub/gnome/sources/audiofile/0.2
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[14:11] < tcr> moin all
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[14:20] < praenti> wäh. the installer is terrible commented. where you need comments there are no and where you not need any comment you can find one
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[14:59] [anders] is downloading all the sources required for a 1.5.19-Gnome2 build to start later today..
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[14:59] < LocalHero> Hi everybody
[14:59] < [anders]> meep
[15:00] < barthel> [anders] how i can find the sources for a 1.5.19-gnome2
[15:00] < [anders]> LocalHero: Hur är läget?
[15:01] < [anders]> barthel: at the moment it is in development.. I have only yesterday ported lots of changes from huebi's 1.5.19 tree into the rock-gnome2 cvs-tree. Once I have built it and I am happy that it works, I can make a source archive available on-line.
[15:02] < [anders]> barthel: I have a cvs server for this, but no anonymous read-only access yet.. I have to fix that..
[15:02] < barthel> cool... ;-)
[15:03] < barthel> do you know a mirror for gnome without the struct.-changes ?
[15:03] < barthel> i can't Download -base any more...
[15:04] < tcr> Hur är läget ?= how are you
[15:04] < [anders]> barthel: no, afraid I do not.. I will go through and fix all the download changes I find as and when.. And a lot of the gnome2 stuff might be unaffected to the structure change..
[15:04] < praenti> does anybody have a binary ext iso?
[15:04] < [anders]> tcr: along those lines... "how's things" more like it.. :)
[15:05] < praenti> the ext iso can be 1 year old
[15:05] < tcr> [anders]: and how are you would be then?
[15:05] [anders] almost never build the ext's until they are needed..
[15:05] < [anders]> tcr: "hur mår du?"
[15:06] < praenti> [anders]: do you know Mike's ftp url?
[15:07] < [anders]> praenti: no, sorry.. :-/ Perhaps when I do find out, I'll stick it on the wiki and there is a documented place for it then..
[15:08] < praenti> hmm. ok. then i search a little bit
[15:13] < praenti> does anybody know of that. i dont get that till now: https://www.gentics.com/Content.Node2/german/presse/478.php
[15:15] < tcr> reconnect
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[15:33] < LocalHero> [anders], jorå det är gött, ska ut med flickvännen till hennes ställe nu, höres
[15:33] < LocalHero> Does anybody know any "free" news servers around?
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[15:42] < rolla> re
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[16:03] < barthel> its possible to return in the install shell after a successf. installation ?
[16:03] < th> barthel: you can boot from cd again
[16:05] tcr is listening to Eisregen - Dreizehn
[16:05] < tcr> demian: !!!
[16:07] < barthel> th: gggggrrmmmmpppfff... on my other console run ./scripts/Download -base ... for a long time :-/
[16:07] < barthel> i only need curl to install...
[16:07] < th> barthel: why do you do that?
[16:09] < barthel> th: i get the src of -base... or what do you mean ?
[16:09] < th> barthel: yes but what for?
[16:10] < barthel> to build the src...
[16:11] < th> so why do you want to rebuild the base?
[16:11] < barthel> i don't understand your question...
[16:11] < th> you have selected */* and installed it?
[16:11] < tcr> th: maybe he just got a iso
[16:11] < tcr> an
[16:11] < barthel> i would build for a i689; not i've selected via 'menu'
[16:12] < barthel> yes, i've installed from rock-iso 1.5.19
[16:13] < th> barthel: i still don't see why you want to build the base from source.
[16:13] < th> barthel: you have installed your base already
[16:13] < tcr> for optimising?
[16:15] < barthel> i'm new in rock and i would learn how the system work...
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[16:15] < Mike1> moin
[16:15] < barthel> i know only the debian-pkg system...
[16:15] < barthel> moin
[16:16] < th> barthel: start playing with extensions
[16:16] < th> barthel: and keep the base as you installed it binary from cd
[16:16] < tcr> huhu Mike1 ... oh what a wonder, you finally got to sleep :)
[16:18] < Mike1> tcr: actually no! :((
[16:18] < tcr> ??? why
[16:18] < Mike1> i went to uni and did some stuff then i got home and my dump ass decided to do some coding and when realizaed it was 4am
[16:18] < Mike1> i only slept 2 hours....again :((
[16:18] < tcr> i couldn't do that
[16:19] tcr needs sleep
[16:20] < Mike1> tcr: me too i will fur sure fall over my keyboard sometime today
[16:20] < tcr> why aren't you sleepin then?
[16:21] < Mike1> i was going to last night but i got there it was too early so i started coding and the time simply started to run and i didnt notice it untill it was too late
[16:21] < Mike1> i will go straight to bet tonight
[16:22] < tcr> are you at work at moment?
[16:22] < tcr> why didn't you phoned to your office head, you'll come two hours later, or so ? :)
[16:23] < Mike1> because i need to leave one hour early :)
[16:24] Mike1 needs to reboot brb
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[16:24] < tcr> have phun
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[16:32] < Mike1> re
[16:32] < tcr> reh
[16:33] < tcr> long reboot
[16:35] < Mike1> i was on lame rh system
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[16:36] < armijn> re
[16:37] < Mike1> moin armijn
[16:37] < tcr> ~armijn@loser.*
[16:37] < tcr> :P
[16:37] < fake> hi
[16:38] < armijn> no, losser
[16:39] < tcr> you certainly misspelled it during creating the hostname ;)
[16:39] < armijn> no
[16:39] < armijn> it's a town in the east of .nl
[16:39] < armijn> near the german border
[16:39] < Mike1> hi fake
[16:40] < Mike1> hehe
[16:40] < tcr> you mispelled it anyway
[16:40] < armijn> urgh
[16:40] < tcr> *g*
[16:40] < armijn> tcr: well, if I'm a loser because I port ROCK to other architectures, so be it
[16:40] < Mike1> why dont we just get a beer and be happy?
[16:40] < armijn> other people just think I'm extremely cool
[16:40] < armijn> and to be honest, they outnumber you :)
[16:41] < tcr> each lamer has a own fan club, nothing new ;-)
[16:42] tcr knuddelt armijn ... not that he takes me serious
[16:42] < armijn> heheh
[16:45] < [anders]> kuddelt? sounds perverse...
[16:45] < [anders]> +n
[16:46] < armijn> must be something german
[16:46] < armijn> I never understood germans
[16:46] < tcr> yes
[16:46] < [anders]> *lol*
[16:46] < armijn> hey du, willst du mich knuddeln?
[16:46] < armijn> see?
[16:47] < tcr> it's a very dear meant way to demonstrate affection to one person
[16:47] < tcr> when it's used in the internet
[16:48] < tcr> actually it's the same as huging
[16:48] < armijn> huging...is that that you become bigger? as in, huge?
[16:49] < Mike1> tcr: so you feel ... affection... for armijn?
[16:49] < tcr> armijn: hugging :P
[16:49] [anders] averts his eyes...
[16:49] < tcr> Mike1: :P ...
[16:49] < armijn> ah
[16:49] < tcr> well..
[16:49] Mike1 ROTL
[16:50] < tcr> let's go into douche ... i'll drp the soap ... and you - as you're a cavalier - will wanna take it and you'll lean down .. and then ... well.
[16:51] Mike1 wonders where is our Goddest Mathilda
[16:53] < tcr> actually knuddeln hasn't to have to do with love ... it's mostly used with animals... so you can knuddel your cat ...
[16:53] < tcr> i.e. holding it to your breast
[16:56] < tcr> *lol* please do not think i'm perverse, 'cause i knuddel my cat ;)
[16:57] < Mike1> Do you knuddel your "grep" as well?
[16:57] < Mike1> what about your sed and your awk?
[16:57] < Mike1> *G
[16:59] < tcr> must..use..vim..
[17:00] < Mike1> so you knuddel you cat agains your vim wow thats cool
[17:00] < tcr> :1,$g/Mike1/d
[17:00] < armijn> vim...some cleaning stuff is called like that over here
[17:00] < Mike1> lol
[17:01] < Mike1> has anyone seen Mathilda around lately?
[17:01] < tcr> having visions every night
[17:01] < Mike1> tcr: ?
[17:01] < tcr> yes
[17:02] < Mike1> what kind of vissions?
[17:02] < tcr> she's coming in dreams ... and saying a war will begin soon...
[17:02] < Mike1> a flame war?
[17:02] < tcr> i interprete this that she's doing holiday
[17:03] < Mike1> i see
[17:03] < tcr> she certainly refered to the irq crisi
[17:03] < tcr> +s
[17:03] < tcr> iraw crisis
[17:03] < tcr> iraq crisis
[17:03] < Mike1> i see
[17:03] < armijn> irc crisis?
[17:03] tcr hangs
[17:03] < Mike1> you think there will be actually a war?
[17:03] < Mike1> parhaps wwIII?
[17:04] < tcr> no, i'm just wondering how infantile the USA's behaviour against germany is
[17:05] < Mike1> tcr: what does germany have to do with all this?
[17:05] < tcr> and if the war delayed two years, I'll have to go to the war!
[17:06] < Mike1> tcr: hehe well then lets just hope this wont happen
[17:06] < tcr> Mike1: you should know that there was the Bundestagwahl three days ago... And the SPD has won... that means Gerhard Schrörder is still Bundeskanzler
[17:06] < armijn> yeah, der Gerhard!
[17:07] < tcr> and he said he won't support if bush attacks the iraq
[17:07] < armijn> hair coloring products sales are rocketing!
[17:07] < tcr> since this washington hasn't been saying anything about/to germany
[17:08] < tcr> i think it's now time that we can say 'NO' to the US politics
[17:08] < Mike1> tcr: oh well germany is doing good on not supporting it, i believe de has been involved in so many violence already
[17:08] < armijn> no more gray hairs!
[17:08] < tcr> we're *not* the bimbos of the US
[17:09] < Mike1> bimbos?
[17:09] < tcr> "niggers"
[17:09] < tcr> slaves...
[17:09] < Mike1> tcr: so no more niggers?
[17:09] < tcr> we needn't do what the us says
[17:10] < Mike1> i believe germany is way more powerfull than us
[17:10] < armijn> hihi
[17:11] < armijn> sorry, I need to go to this room with matrasses on the walls, etc. so no one hear I completely crack up
[17:11] < Mike1> armijn: ?
[17:11] < tcr> i think germany has the biggest amount of soldiers positioned arount the world
[17:11] < Mike1> tcr: ack
[17:12] < tcr> we have been supporting the US in the kosovo crisis
[17:12] < tcr> as well as in afghanistan
[17:12] < Mike1> the only negative thing that i know from you guys is that you made SuSE
[17:12] < Mike1> but hey no one has to be perfect
[17:12] < Mike1> *g
[17:12] < tcr> :P
[17:13] < tcr> SuSE rocks ... i hope to get a job there when i'll study
[17:13] < armijn> mike1: germany more powerful than the US? not militairy...har har
[17:13] < Mike1> armijn: you guys cold be
[17:13] < Mike1> tcr: is it a joke?
[17:13] < tcr> why not
[17:13] < tcr> there're a lot of very high skilled people
[17:14] < Mike1> tcr: ok
[17:14] < armijn> well, I've got more important things to worry about
[17:14] < tcr> hehe, i may start a new sub-distro: SuSE - Hackers
[17:14] < Mike1> it might rock but it will never ROCK as we do :)
[17:14] < armijn> as in, should I fill my cup with 2/3 of water or 3/4?
[17:14] < Mike1> armijn: yeah how is the bootable cd thing doing?
[17:14] < tcr> 3/4
[17:16] < praenti> argh. cyrus compile process is buggy without an ending
[17:16] < praenti> hi Mike1
[17:16] < Mike1> hi praenti
[17:16] < Mike1> praenti: == 09:00:04 =[4]=> Building base package imagemagick [5.4.9 1.5.19].
[17:16] < tcr> armijn: unfortunetaly the US has the military hegemony, the UNO has the juridical one
[17:17] < praenti> Mike1: ok. thx. do you have a binary ext iso?
[17:17] < tcr> armijn: but IMHO, who owns the military hegemony, owns the legal as well!
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[17:18] < Mike1> re snyke
[17:21] < Mike1> armijn: ?
[17:26] < armijn> bootable CD?
[17:26] < armijn> no progress
[17:26] < snyke> re
[17:27] < Mike1> armijn: ok
[17:32] < armijn> ok, am off
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[17:43] < Mike1> https://www.wehavethewayout.com/
[17:43] < Mike1> https://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=www.wehavethewayout.com
[17:43] < Mike1> nice to see an anti free software alliance running freeBSD on their webserver :)
[17:55] < tcr> hehe :)
[17:55] tcr needs demian ! kicking his ass
[17:55] < [anders]> time to go home.. back tomorrow, or tonight if time permits...
[17:55] < tcr> [anders]: mach's gut :)
[17:56] < [anders]> tcr: :)
[17:56] < Mike1> tcr: enjoy it!
[17:57] < tcr> lol
[18:01] < Mike1> demian: get over here so tcr can kick ur ass
[18:03] < tcr> <- watching tv now ;P
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[18:41] < tcr> hi ripclaw
[18:41] < ripclaw> hi tcr
[18:41] < ripclaw> helo
[18:42] < Mike1> master ripclaw :)
[18:51] < Mike1> praenti: == 10:22:39 =[5]=> Building base package rock-debug [1.5.19 1.5.19].
[19:00] < ripclaw> hi mike
[19:21] < esden> hi all
[19:22] < Mike1> hi esden
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[19:22] < ripclaw> helo esden
[19:22] < litost> hi everyone
[19:23] < Mike1> hi litost
[19:23] < litost> what are up to today Miguel?
[19:25] ripclaw is away: food
[19:26] < Mike1> nothing much there?
[19:30] < esden> hi Mike1
[19:30] < esden> hi ripclaw hi litost
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[19:31] < esden> lool ... jolt theme : https://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/jolt/?topic_id=918
[19:31] < esden> for wmaker
[19:37] < ripclaw> i am fed up, shutting down box, think i need a vacation from the fscking computers.
[19:37] < ripclaw> l8r
[19:37] < Mike1> cu ripclaw
[19:38] < ripclaw> cu mike
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[19:48] < zer0_o> hi mates
[19:48] < Mike1> O_o
[19:48] < Mike1> :)
[19:49] < esden> hi zer0_o
[19:49] < esden> o_O
[19:49] < esden> O_o
[19:49] < esden> O_O
[19:49] < Mike1> lol
[19:49] < esden> X_X
[19:49] < zer0_o> 0_o
[19:49] < Mike1> ()_()
[19:49] < zer0_o> X_x
[19:49] < esden> @_@
[19:49] < Mike1> lol
[19:49] < zer0_o> -_-
[19:50] < esden> ^_^
[19:50] < Mike1> (*)(*)
[19:50] < Mike1> oops
[19:50] < Mike1> *g
[19:50] < zer0_o> lol
[19:50] < esden> loool
[19:50] < esden> Mike1: that is something different
[19:50] < esden> it is like
[19:50] < esden> (.)(.)
[19:50] < Mike1> lol
[19:50] < esden> *GG*
[19:51] < zer0_o> ey, keep clean ;)
[19:51] < Mike1> sure zer(*)(*)
[19:51] < esden> zer0_o: /me is clean all the time .. I wash myself two times a day
[19:51] < Mike1> i mean zer0_o
[19:51] < zer0_o> eheh
[19:53] < esden> argh ...
[19:53] esden needs rippy back !!!
[19:54] < Mike1> esden: "rippy" has gone to sleep
[19:54] < esden> yes I know ...
[19:54] < esden> I missed to ask him some things ... >_<
[19:54] esden hates writing mails to rippy ...
[19:54] < Mike1> echo "asking something" | sendmail rippy
[19:55] < Mike1> i see
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[19:56] < _NULL> hi
[19:56] < esden> hi nothing
[19:56] < Mike1> _NULL: hi
[19:56] < _NULL> hi esden, Mike1
[19:58] Mike1 is away: having lunch
[20:01] zer0_o too
[20:02] < esden> bon appetitt my friends ;-)
[20:13] _NULL leaves you now. *yawing*
[20:13] < _NULL> gn8. cu
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[20:24] Mike1 is back (gone 00:26:18)
[20:24] < Mike1> re
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[20:34] < esden> re Mike1 !
[20:56] -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5928.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
[20:56] < _NULL> re
[20:57] < Mike1> re my yawing friend
[20:58] < _NULL> yawing but not able to sleep. that suxx
[20:59] < Mike1> poor girl
[20:59] < _NULL> :PP
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[21:04] < Mike1> hola demian
[21:15] < demian> re
[21:15] < tcr> hey demian!!!
[21:15] < demian> tcr: !!
[21:15] < demian> hi tcr
[21:15] tcr breathes again
[21:15] < tcr> mom
[21:15] < demian> ?
[21:16] < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/install_shell-24-09-02.diff
[21:16] < demian> i saw ur patch tcr
[21:16] < demian> yes ;-)
[21:16] < tcr> tested?
[21:16] < demian> nope
[21:17] < demian> lemme prepare the system again..
[21:17] < tcr> hmm... and the menu-code is nothing than a whole hack
[21:17] < tcr> nevermind, it works
[21:25] < demian> k
[21:27] < tcr> demian: i'm interested if the wrong package number is correct now or not
[21:27] < demian> gimme a moment please ;-)
[21:27] < tcr> of course
[21:31] < demian> tcr: what is c2 counter supposed to count ?
[21:32] < tcr> the number of installed packages, i think
[21:32] < demian> and c ?
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[21:32] < tcr> uh dunno
[21:33] < tcr> i'd have to look up ... but i'm too lazy/tired to boot my other pc
[21:33] < tcr> hi mnemoc
[21:33] < mnemoc> hi tcr
[21:34] < _NULL> hi mnemoc
[21:34] < mnemoc> anyone working with 1.7?
[21:34] < mnemoc> (hi _NULL)
[21:34] < demian> i havent tested yet, but i think that if c counter is decreased after pres ^C, it is cause the package install was cancelled, and this packages wasnt installed ...
[21:35] < demian> so, this makes me think that the total installed packages counter is c
[21:35] < tcr> mom, i'll boot
[21:35] < demian> this is what i think, but im not sure, lemme have a deeper look
[21:37] < tcr> demian: (%d/%d) Installing ....
[21:38] < demian> ROCK Install Shell>
[21:38] < ichilton> trying to run ./scripts/Download -all but getting this:
[21:38] < ichilton> Downloading download/rene/libungif/libungif-4.1.0.tar.gz ...
[21:38] < ichilton> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations)
[21:38] < ichilton> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror.
[21:38] < ichilton> [stops]
[21:38] < ichilton> any ideas why it's stopping?
[21:38] < mnemoc> nothing to download?
[21:38] < demian> remove -mirror option ?
[21:39] < ichilton> ?
[21:39] < tcr> demian: gimme an example of the line: [...] (%d/%d) Installing .....
[21:39] < tcr> what is the first and what the second %d ?
[21:39] < demian> strange.. seem Download is using -mirror option..
[21:39] < demian> mom
[21:40] < tcr> the second should be the number of selected pkgs
[21:40] < tcr> and the first the number of installed pkgs
[21:41] < demian> yes
[21:41] < tcr> should be right then as i did it
[21:41] < demian> ROCK Install Shell> unselect */*
[21:42] < demian> ROCK Install Shell> select */lynx
[21:42] < tcr> `sel' is the number of selected pkgs, and `c2' the one of installed pkgs
[21:44] < demian> 002% (001/036)
[21:44] < tcr> can you make a pkg fail?
[21:45] < demian> FATAL ERROR: Installation of package 'util/gnupg' failed!
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[21:45] < demian> sure
[21:45] < tcr> and press ctrl-c then
[21:45] < demian> 002% (001/036)
[21:45] < demian> seems it is working now
[21:45] < demian> lemme try a retry..
[21:45] < tcr> wonderful :)
[21:45] < demian> an auto-retry
[21:46] < tcr> should work as well
[21:46] < demian> 002% (001/036) Installing util/id-utils
[21:46] < demian> yes
[21:46] < demian> it does ;-)
[21:46] < tcr> juhu!
[21:46] < demian> congrats tcr :-)
[21:46] < tcr> huebi: PING?
[21:47] < Mike1> ping -f huebi ....
[21:47] < tcr> i think travelling to him and kicking his ass would be less intrusive
[21:48] < demian> Mike1: da u have a minute ?
[21:48] < tcr> Mike1: i could try a ping of death :->
[21:48] < huebi> jo
[21:48] < Mike1> tcr: see how easy he came back
[21:48] < Mike1> hi huebi
[21:48] < Mike1> demian: yes whats up
[21:48] < tcr> huebi: please apply: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/install_shell-24-09-02.diff
[21:49] < huebi> tcr: Please read and use: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/CodingStyle
[21:50] < huebi> hehe
[21:50] < Mike1> *G
[21:51] < tcr> mh?
[21:52] < huebi> tcr: use nicer names instead of "c" or "c2"
[21:52] < tcr> SAY THIS CLIFFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:52] < tcr> he is responsible of this fsckin code
[21:52] < tcr> in fact he uses c, c1, c2, c3, c4 and c5 in this function
[21:53] < huebi> tcr: Known problem. No solution found yet. ;}
[21:53] < demian> huebi: the only change was add 'c2--', and the c2 counter already was there
[21:54] < tcr> huebi: for commetting the cvs entry: o) fixed miscounting bug which doesn't decrease the number of installed package if one fails
[21:55] < tcr> o) fixed some mis-wrapping bugs in the install menu
[21:55] < tcr> commenting
[21:56] < ichilton> ok, is anyone around that's good with the Download script?
[21:56] < demian> ichilton: what Download script are u using , 1.7 or 1.5 tree ?
[21:57] < ichilton> 1.7
[21:58] < _NULL> ichilton: ask fake if he is online. he already fixed the URLs but patch wasn't applied by clifford yet
[21:58] < ichilton> _NULL: Ahh, is that why it's not working?
[21:58] < ichilton> fake: u around?
[21:59] < _NULL> ichilton: i dunno. what problem do you have?
[21:59] < huebi> tcr: https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/install-disks/
[21:59] < ichilton> Well I left it all day
[22:00] < ichilton> and came back and there is 300MB in src and it's stopped on libungif. I killed it and restarted it and I get:
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[22:00] < tsa> tag
[22:00] < Mike1> hi tsa
[22:00] < tsa> hi Mike1
[22:00] < demian> hi tcr , mnemoc
[22:00] < _NULL> hi tsa
[22:00] < ichilton> lots of these for each package:
[22:01] < ichilton> Downloading download/rene/libmpeg/mpeg_lib-1.3.1.tar.gz ...
[22:01] < ichilton> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations)
[22:01] < ichilton> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror.
[22:01] < ichilton> ERROR: According to src/Download-Errors we had already an error for that URL.
[22:01] < demian> arrg, s/tcr/tsa
[22:01] < ichilton> ERROR: So I'm not trying to download it again (remove src/Download-Errors
[22:01] < ichilton> ERROR: if you want to force a retry).
[22:01] < ichilton> and this:
[22:01] < ichilton> Downloading download/rene/libungif/libungif-4.1.0.tar.gz ...
[22:01] < ichilton> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations)
[22:01] < ichilton> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror.
[22:01] < ichilton> [stops forever]
[22:01] < ichilton> _NULL: any ideas?
[22:01] < Mike1> ichilton: Please wait for the next snapshot fakes patch will be applies on it
[22:02] < tsa> where is your problem?
[22:02] < ichilton> ah, ok
[22:02] < Mike1> ichilton: fakes patch fixes this issue a new snap will be out soon
[22:02] < ichilton> I checked from cvs - can I just do a cvs update when he's done it and let it carry on?
[22:03] < Mike1> yes
[22:04] < ichilton> Cool
[22:04] < ichilton> _NULL / Mike1: Thanks
[22:04] < Mike1> np
[22:04] < ichilton> Btw, is the patch not public anywhere?
[22:05] < Mike1> ask fake
[22:05] < _NULL> ichilton: afaik: no.
[22:07] < demian> brb
[22:07] < tcr> _NULL: did you finally get the song?
[22:07] < _NULL> tcr: nope.
[22:07] < tcr> didn't tease huebi?
[22:08] < _NULL> had no time to download it at work...
[22:08] < tcr> ah
[22:09] < ichilton> ok, i'll leave it going again tomorrow!
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[22:18] Mike1 rebooting
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[22:22] < Mike1> re
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[22:33] < d3mian> re
[22:42] < fake> eek. problem.
[22:43] < rolla> fake
[22:43] < fake> why does glibc/install-info want to create a backup-file in /var/backups/infodir.bak all of a sudden?
[22:52] < _NULL> moin fake
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[22:56] < fake> hi _NULL
[22:56] < fake> and cu...
[22:56] < Mike1> hi fake :)
[22:57] < _NULL> bye, gn8 fake ;)
[22:57] < Mike1> bye fake
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[22:59] < fake> *yaaawns*
[22:59] < Mike1> should we make a yawners club or something?
[23:01] < tsa> good idea.
[23:01] < tsa> i'll be president, then. *yaaawn*
[23:01] < tsa> ;)
[23:02] < _NULL> tsa: no. that's my part. i'm almost a zombie (cuz of being not tired --> almost dead)... so, i'll be the president
[23:02] < Mike1> no
[23:02] < tsa> _NULL: uhm...no. but you could still be our secretary and make coffee.
[23:02] < Mike1> Mathilda will be the president
[23:03] < _NULL> tsa: wtf is coffee? and what is a secretarty. i really dunno what you mean...
[23:03] < Mike1> tsa: nah that would be fair to make her a secretary
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[23:03] < Mike1> i say lets give her a president charge
[23:03] _NULL is too dead to complain about any comments of anybody here...
[23:03] < Mike1> let make her president of the coffee making department
[23:03] < Mike1> :)
[23:04] < tsa> _NULL: you're female, we can't expect you to understand what we're talking about..
[23:04] < tsa> Mike1: ack.
[23:04] < _NULL> tsa: bla
[23:08] < tsa> :-P
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[23:57] < jasonmaier> got a question for building rock am i right =) ?
[23:58] < tsa> sure.
-!- Irrsi Log closed Thu Sep 26 00:00:22 2002