-!- Irrsi Log opened Thu Sep 26 00:00:22 2002
-!- Irrsi Day changed Thu Sep 26 2002
[00:00] < h0h0> anyone know how to get grub to write its configuration file out to disk after you've edited the menus in the menu editor?
[00:00] < jasonmaier> i search the recommendet tools for building. i got devfs and now i saw i need curl and so. still building fails during chroot. can i find a list anywhere about whats required for building
[00:00] < tsa> h0h0: hm....no idea, i've never used grub..
[00:00] < tsa> lilo only.. ;)
[00:01] < jasonmaier> grubs cool i used
[00:01] < Mike1> time to test my new build ... rebooting
[00:01] < d3mian> jasonmaier: i think there is enough info for that on the rock source's Documentation directory
[00:01] < h0h0> tsa: if grub is able to do this, then im done with lilo.
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[00:01] < tsa> jasonmaier: basically, you'll need all the stuff that is needed to compile a kernel + a little more.
[00:02] < jasonmaier> i just found there i should use a rock system for building rock =(
[00:02] < tsa> 'a little more' in this case includes things like curl...
[00:02] < d3mian> jasonmaier: u dunt need a rock system to build rock afaik
[00:03] < tsa> i'd recommend just trying to start a build and look into the logs if something fails.
[00:03] < jasonmaier> kernels compiling..
[00:03] < tsa> hm..so you already got binutils, gcc, make ...
[00:04] < d3mian> i think u only requires an appropiate kernel configuration (including devfs support, maybe tmpsf), curl libraries, and a base development system.
[00:04] < d3mian> tmpfs*
[00:04] < jasonmaier> binutils. gcc 2.9.5 gotit
[00:04] < jasonmaier> got devfs and tmpfs
[00:05] < d3mian> will be easir if u tell us what u got during chroot
[00:05] < tsa> d3mian: 'base development system' isn't very specific - perhaps we should consider making a list of stuff needed to compile Rock Linux.
[00:06] < tsa> i.e. any kind of software needed in the stages before chroot()
[00:06] < jasonmaier> donst have it i mind ... wait two minutes
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[00:06] < tsa> tmpfs is not necessary afaik
[00:07] < d3mian> tsa: --- ort, maybe tmpsf), cu ---
[00:07] < d3mian> :)
[00:08] < tsa> h?
[00:08] < tsa> hm?
[00:08] < d3mian> i said thay tmpfs could be used, not necessary, but forget it :)
[00:09] < tsa> aaah! ;-)))
[00:11] < jasonmaier> chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh no such command ...
[00:12] < tsa> do you have a /bin/sh ?
[00:12] < jasonmaier> this was the line i got hundred times
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[00:12] < jasonmaier> got /bin/sh =)
[00:12] < Mike1> re
[00:12] < tsa> within the chroot?
[00:13] < jasonmaier> how do i check this ??
[00:13] < tsa> (should be $rock-tree/build/something-very-long/root/bin/sh
[00:13] < tsa> )
[00:13] < jasonmaier> the script did chroot not me
[00:13] < jasonmaier> ok ill look
[00:14] < tsa> hm...1.7-dev getting more and more broken...
[00:14] < tsa> a build a week ago didn't have this problem..
[00:15] < d3mian> Mike1: how was the new build ?
[00:15] < Mike1> was?
[00:15] < Mike1> its doing ok
[00:15] < Mike1> anyways i have to go now
[00:15] < d3mian> :)
[00:15] < Mike1> see you tomorrow
[00:15] < tsa> hehe
[00:15] < d3mian> k, cya later
[00:15] < tsa> cya Mike1
[00:15] < Mike1> :)
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[00:15] < tsa> from scripts/Build-Pkg:
[00:15] < tsa> TZ="/R.localtime" chroot . bin/sh R_chroot.sh ; returncode=$?
[00:16] < jasonmaier> rock-src-1.7-200209162203
[00:16] < jasonmaier> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory same stuff
[00:17] < tsa> do you have $rock-tree/build/something-very-long/root/bin/bash ?
[00:17] < tsa> if you do, just change the line in scripts/Build-Pkg
[00:17] < jasonmaier> got sh in rock/rock-src-1.7-200209162203/build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium-mmx-generic/root/bin
[00:17] < tsa> hm...that's ok.
[00:17] < jasonmaier> and there is bash either
[00:18] < jasonmaier> use a base gentoo system
[00:18] < d3mian> jasonmaier: is '/bin/sh' poiting to other file (a symlink?), if yes, make sure the link is ok
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[00:20] < jasonmaier> bin/sh points to ->bash and bash seem ok but even a chroot to .../root/ brakes like chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[00:21] < jasonmaier> noone here to help ??
[00:21] < jasonmaier> thank you tsa, got alittle more noch about the chroot
[00:21] < jasonmaier> will try asking again
[00:22] < d3mian> jasonmaier: what CPU are u using?
[00:23] < jasonmaier> pii 300
[00:23] < jasonmaier> 64 mb ram =(
[00:23] < d3mian> pii ?
[00:23] < jasonmaier> pII
[00:23] < d3mian> ahh k
[00:24] < jasonmaier> ==)
[00:24] < d3mian> could u try building bash again ?
[00:25] < jasonmaier> how ?? could i use my bash ??
[00:25] < jasonmaier> my own for gentoo build bash ?
[00:25] < d3mian> but i think there wasnt a prob with this :/
[00:26] < d3mian> scripts/Build-Pkg
[00:27] < jasonmaier> this was my prob with 1.7... trying 1.5.12 broke too, Downloading tried several times always broke download first tar with unnown port something..
[00:27] < d3mian> jasonmaier: do this: (i think u had the same prob than me..)
[00:28] < d3mian> $rock-tree/build/something-very-long/root/bin/bash -l
[00:28] < d3mian> does it run a new bash login ?
[00:28] < d3mian> or show: No such file or dir ?
[00:29] < jasonmaier> got a new bash
[00:29] < d3mian> $rock-tree/build/something-very-long/root/bin/sh ?
[00:29] < jasonmaier> whith a strange prompt
[00:29] < jasonmaier> same stuff..
[00:29] < d3mian> it should be fine.. lemme see the 1.7 scripts
[00:29] < jasonmaier> ../bin/sh runs too
[00:30] < jasonmaier> sorry 1.7 scripts ??
[00:30] < d3mian> are u using 1.5 ?
[00:30] < jasonmaier> nope 1.7
[00:31] < jasonmaier> for this question...
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[00:43] < d3mian> jasonmaier: do a chroot by hand, this way:
[00:44] < d3mian> chroot rock-src/build/rock.../root/ /bin/bash -login
[00:44] < jasonmaier> gentoo default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium-mmx-generic # chroot root /bin/bash -login
[00:44] < jasonmaier> chroot: cannot execute /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[00:44] < jasonmaier> gentoo default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium-mmx-generic #
[00:45] < d3mian> yeah! cool
[00:45] < jasonmaier> whatscool with this ??
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[00:45] < d3mian> i knew i wasnt the only guy with those probs ! :-)
[00:45] < ceduardo> hi
[00:46] < jasonmaier> but /bin/bash is ok !
[00:46] < ceduardo> bye
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[00:46] < d3mian> i have some probs when building static things, they build fine and i can run them without any problem, and run them out of chroot, but, inside, some binaries fail!, saying this:
[00:46] < d3mian> /bin/bash: No such file or dir..
[00:47] < d3mian> well, simply, i dunt have any idea why could be this caused :-)
[00:47] < jasonmaier> damn
[00:47] < d3mian> this is not a rock related prob, afaik, tis is caused in some systems, i got this prob in amd k6-ii
[00:48] < d3mian> cuase this builds fine in other systems and also run!
[00:48] < jasonmaier> i thought it lacks tools in my other linux
[00:48] < d3mian> well, but maybe there is a solution, but i dunt know it yet, i have the same prob, not with bash, but yes with soe other binaries
[00:49] < jasonmaier> got a stable pii system building a whole gentoo system including binutils gcc glibc ....
[00:51] < d3mian> see some logs i got at https://www.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/chroot.err
[00:51] < jasonmaier> dont want to build another systems kernel with devfs
[00:51] < jasonmaier> You don't have permission to access /~jonvargas/chroot.err on this server.
[00:51] < d3mian> reload
[00:51] < jasonmaier> k
[00:54] < jasonmaier> seems strange
[00:54] < d3mian> package builds were sucessful, and their binaries could be run out of chroot, not inside
[00:55] < jasonmaier> strange =(
[00:55] < d3mian> and of course they are static (not shared objects), then they have to work fine, but dunt do it
[00:55] < d3mian> ill post this right now ;-)
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[00:57] < jasonmaier> tired... beddown for now
[00:57] < jasonmaier> bye and thanks
[00:58] < d3mian> im sorry that i couldnt help u
[00:58] < d3mian> im still with the same prob :(
[00:58] < jasonmaier> you think there ll be help
[00:58] < jasonmaier> ??
[00:58] < jasonmaier> =)
[00:59] < d3mian> i hope :)
[01:00] < jasonmaier> ok lll try gain
[01:00] < jasonmaier> building and asking
[01:01] < d3mian> im trying sth.
[01:01] < d3mian> cya
[01:02] < jasonmaier> k
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[03:30] < rolla> re
[03:31] < rolla> is three
[03:31] < rolla> is there anyone here who has setup raid on rock ?
[03:32] < demian> hi rolla , not me
[03:33] < rolla> then what good are you to me ;)
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[03:51] < rolla> grrr
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[05:00] < rolla> can you format a raid set resiserfs ?
[05:01] < SMP> sure
[05:01] < rolla> there would be no problems with the raid 5 and the journaling fs ?
[05:02] < SMP> non known on recent 2.4 kernels
[05:03] < rolla> cool
[05:04] < SMP> but - I wouldn't use reiserfs anyway ;)
[05:04] < rolla> warum ?
[05:06] < SMP> weil es mittlerweile leidlich funktioniert, aber grandios kaputt geht, wenn es kaputt geht
[05:06] < SMP> schau dich mal auf groups.google.com nach 'Erfolgsgeschichten' von reiserfsck an
[05:07] < SMP> um
[05:07] < rolla> okay
[05:07] < rolla> thanks
[05:17] < rolla> one other question would journaling fs help when all data is just going to be mirror of a ftp site ?
[06:07] < SMP> it won't help children starving in Africa..
[06:09] < SMP> so what does your data need help with? if you can define that, we will find an answer..
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[06:22] < demian> hi mnemoc , que tal chile ?
[06:23] < mnemoc> politicamente complicado pero bien :D
[06:24] < mnemoc> y .cr?
[06:24] < demian> pues, igual que siempre, no hay problemas de nada
[06:24] < mnemoc> eso es bueno :D
[06:24] < demian> por eso me gusta, el gobierno hace su trabajo y a nadie le preocupa nada :)
[06:31] < mnemoc> siempre es tan silencioso aca?
[06:32] < demian> no
[06:32] < demian> es que los alemanes duermen a esta hora :)
[06:33] < demian> son las 6:30am alla!
[06:33] < mnemoc> con razon...
[06:33] < mnemoc> la mayor parte son europeos?
[06:34] < demian> si
[06:34] < demian> dejame haver una encuesta..
[06:37] < demian> de los 23 que hay, 18 estoy seguro son europeos, 2 somos tu y yo, y 3 no se de donde son
[06:37] < demian> y de los europeos, 17 se que son alemanes
[06:39] < mnemoc> de us no hay?
[06:45] < demian> no estoy seguro
[06:46] < demian> al unico que conozco es a litost
[06:46] < demian> y no esta
[06:46] < mnemoc> tengo un problema raro, con 1.7.
[06:47] < mnemoc> Build-Target me tira: chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
[06:47] < mnemoc> pero yo puedo hacer chroot a mano sin problemas :\
[06:48] < demian> umm
[06:48] < demian> vos no preguntaste eso hace u rato ?
[06:48] < demian> estas subscrito a la lista rock-linux ?
[06:49] < demian> hace poco mande un mail a la lista relacionado a esto
[06:49] < demian> pero no se si sera problema de 1.7 o que!
[06:49] < demian> a mi me pasa.. pero no con bash
[06:49] < mnemoc> lo mismo?
[06:49] < demian> umm. no..
[06:50] < demian> leiste el ultimo mail a la lista ?
[06:50] < mnemoc> lo acabo de leer :D
[06:50] < demian> k
[06:50] < demian> tonces ya sabes que no tengo respues ta :)
[06:50] < demian> yo lo mande
[06:51] < demian> mnemoc: hagamos algunas pruebas
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[08:57] < nAdIeD> H!
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[09:01] < demian> hi nAdIeD
[09:01] < demian> hi Freak
[09:03] < nAdIeD> lol
[09:03] < nAdIeD> are you alone demian_?
[09:03] < demian> rest are sleeping i think, ill do the same right now
[09:04] < nAdIeD> lol
[09:04] < nAdIeD> good
[09:04] < nAdIeD> me too
[09:04] < demian> ok, cya
[09:04] < nAdIeD> i have to study
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[09:12] < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[09:13] < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[09:22] < Freak> uhm re guys
[09:26] < barthel> moin, moin...
[09:30] < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[09:31] [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[09:32] < [anders]> and I have to remember to remove expat from the ext-config directory...
[10:00] < huebi> moin
[10:01] < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:01] < huebi> hi barthel
[10:08] < SMP> grmpf
[10:09] < SMP> stage 5 running and I forgot to tweak the install-shell animation as I usually do for my builds;-}
[10:19] < huebi> moin SMP
[10:19] < huebi> ;-)
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[10:23] < zer0_o^> re all
[10:24] < zer0_o^> i just downloaded samba from samba.org and my anti-virus programm said it was a virus in this file =(
[10:25] < huebi> zer0_o^: samba _is_ a virus for MS ;>
[10:26] < demian> :)
[10:26] < demian> hi
[10:27] < zer0_o^> huebi? really ? =)
[10:27] < zer0_o^> i hope not too bad , i downloaded in windows ;)
[10:28] < zer0_o^> but i dispack it in fbsd, thats more save ;)
[10:50] < huebi> VS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:50] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:50] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:50] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:50] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:50] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:50] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:51] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:51] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:51] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:51] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:51] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:51] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:51] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:51] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:51] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:51] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:51] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:51] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:51] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:51] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:51] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:52] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:52] < SMP> arrgh
[10:52] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:52] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:52] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
[10:52] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:52] -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ
[10:52] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:52] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:52] -!- SMP was kicked from #rocklinux by SMP (arrgh)
[10:52] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:52] < huebi> 09:13 < [anders]> guten morgen alles.. hope you had a nice sleep.. (I didn't...)
[10:52] < huebi> 09:22 < Freak> uhm re guys
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[10:52] < huebi> 09:26 < barthel> moin, moin...
[10:52] < huebi> 09:30 < [anders]> re Freak, barthel
[10:52] -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ
[10:52] < huebi> 09:31 * [anders] is building Rock-1.5.19-Gnome2 at the moment.. Have had to fix the build order of a few things this morning..
[10:52] < huebi> 09:32 < [aVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 09:12 < [anders]> mrrrrf...
[10:52] -!- huebi was kicked from #rocklinux by SMP (arrgh)
[10:53] < demian> huebi!
[10:53] < demian> :)
[10:53] -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP
[10:53] < demian> thnx SMP
[10:54] < Freak> what the fuck..
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[10:55] < [anders]> re huebi, cut'n'paste problems this morning? :)
[10:56] < [anders]> moin demian, Freak, SMP
[10:56] < huebi> [anders]: *g* Ella tested the mouse...
[10:56] < huebi> moin [anders]
[10:56] < Freak> whooz ella?
[10:56] < SMP> daughter
[10:56] < Freak> sweet
[10:56] < huebi> Freak: my daughter, 16 months old
[10:56] < Freak> (=
[10:56] < demian> :)
[10:57] < Freak> I think I dreamt of having a baby this night..
[10:57] < Freak> dreamed? freakin english
[10:57] < demian> who was the father Freak ?
[10:58] < demian> well, have to leave now, cya ;-)
[10:58] < Freak> /me
[10:58] < huebi> I found out that wavelan is a little tricky. I need some other cards 14 meters range is not enought.
[10:58] < Freak> huhm
[10:58] < huebi> cu demian
[11:00] < Freak> I want to know what "Handlungsstrang" is in english ;)
[11:00] < Freak> nevermind
[11:05] < SMP> huebi: wlan with walls inbetween?
[11:06] < huebi> SMP: Yes, four "11er Leichtbetonwaende" no steel in the walls
[11:07] < SMP> four of them? uh
[11:07] < SMP> could work with 1mw cards and mighty big antennas
[11:07] < SMP> eh
[11:07] < SMP> 11mw
[11:08] < SMP> no way to have antennas outside?
[11:09] < huebi> The Netgear cards also have only ~5MBit transmission rate if connectet with 11MBit and only 1m distance between them.
[11:09] < huebi> 11mW cards? Can you tell me a type?
[11:09] < SMP> eh, no
[11:10] < SMP> the problem is that with a external antenna only 2mW are certified
[11:10] < huebi> I can have antennas outside but therefore I need cards with antenna mount option.
[11:10] < SMP> you need antennas anyway
[11:11] < SMP> either normal antennas outside or might big ones inside ;)
[11:12] < huebi> I can go down to 2 walls but I need then 40m - 50m distance.
[11:25] < praenti> moin
[11:25] < praenti> demian: still here?
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[11:26] < praenti> demian: still here?
[11:26] < demian> praenti: lucky, i was just closing the irc window..
[11:26] < praenti> ohh. i see
[11:26] < demian> how are u praenti ?
[11:26] < praenti> huebi: is the gcc-wrapper running in stage 1?
[11:27] < praenti> demian: good. i woke up 30 minutes ago
[11:27] < demian> i see
[11:28] < praenti> demian: i have a assumption for your problem
[11:28] < demian> which one :)
[11:30] < huebi> praenti: Yes, I think so.
[11:32] < demian> praenti: clifford said that it could be caused by libc or ld-linux libraries (not found). but i know that's not the prob, what da u have to tell me praenti ?
[11:33] < praenti> demian: you know i get some asm-errors with the gcc-wrapper
[11:33] < demian> i systems with the same configuration, same distro, same packages , same running kernel but diff cpu's, this is not a prob :)
[11:33] < praenti> in my athlon optimization
[11:34] < demian> i dunt have that kind of probs, ive listened that before, but i never had them, i heard of that kind of messages while compiling the kernel
[11:34] < praenti> perhaps you have the same problems. in some cases you dont get an asm error even if you need one. amd chips are not 100% code compatible to intel
[11:35] < demian> yes.. well, i dunt know too much about arch stuff, but im almost sure it is caused by hardware
[11:36] < demian> and!, if i take a static binarie built for the same arch and i replace the one which is having probs with this, the probs stays
[11:36] < praenti> i think the problem is somewhere in libc or ld-linux as clifford said. but i dont know if it is caused by gcc-wrapper or the package itself
[11:36] < demian> why da u think it is caused by those libs ?
[11:37] < praenti> because i get these errors also on the kernel when i build manually. the difference is that the build does not abort
[11:37] < demian> i see
[11:37] < praenti> demian: buggy machine-code
[11:38] < demian> maybe my messages are not printed even when i receive them..
[11:38] < demian> da u wanna mean that
[11:38] < demian> ?
[11:38] < praenti> perhaps
[11:38] < praenti> can you make a build with gcc-wrapper debugging? when u dont see anything. gcc-wrapper is not the problem
[11:39] < demian> well, kernel 2.4.19 brings some special features to see cpu perfomance, ill enable them and will see if the cou reports a prob
[11:39] < demian> gcc wrapper debugging.. never have used that.. but ill try
[11:39] < praenti> demian: dont know. if you have an acpi-board, use the patches on acpi.sourceforge.net
[11:40] < praenti> then you should see a little bit more
[11:40] < demian> apm/acpi mother board
[11:40] < praenti> i must go to lunch
[11:40] praenti at lunch
[11:41] < demian> i wonder why ld-linux and libc libs have to do with this prob, i dunt wanna be persistent, but ive done several tests and builds in other almost identical systems, but different hardware and i dunt frecuent this prob at all
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[11:44] < demian> that system (the problematic one) has two partitions, one for rock stuff and other for slackware. both distros is able to build that, not for run them. and several segfaults (anywhere in stage2/xgcc) building gcc in this system , they are random, which makes me think the hardware could be a prob
[11:46] < demian> anyways ill do some hackware changes with it ... in other places i havent received a good info about this
[11:47] < demian> now ill leave , it's very late here and i need to wake up me within 2 and half hours. cya
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[11:49] < barthel> have nice dreams demian cya
[11:49] < zer0_o^> re
[12:19] praenti back
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[12:23] barthel is away: I'm busy
[12:23] barthel is back (gone 00:00:07)
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[13:05] [anders] looking at anoncvs stuff...
[13:06] < praenti> does anybody have a Klez virus?
[13:06] < praenti> i need one for testing
[13:06] < zer0_o^> rofl ;)
[13:06] < zer0_o^> ask symantec
[13:07] < praenti> Klez is only on microsoft active
[13:07] < praenti> so i can test some things under linux ;-)
[13:07] < zer0_o^> modify? ;)
[13:29] < esden> hi all
[13:36] < zer0_o^> hi esden
[13:36] < zer0_o^> is there a dos simulator for linux ? =) to play old games like "indy3" =)
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[13:37] < zer0_o^> or "larry laffer"
[13:40] < esden> yes ... dosemu
[13:41] < esden> zer0_o^: https://dosemu.sourceforge.net/
[13:41] < demian> re (couldnt sleep almost nth)
[13:41] < zer0_o^> thx
[13:42] < esden> hi demian
[13:42] < demian> hi esden
[13:42] < demian> zer0_o^: btw.. also have a look at freedos
[13:42] < esden> demian: that is the dos you can run in the dosemu
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[13:43] < esden> because dosemu is only the emulator ... you still need a dos to run in it
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[13:43] < esden> [13:42] < esden> demian: that is the dos you can run in the dosemu
[13:43] < esden> [13:43] < esden> because dosemu is only the emulator ... you still need a dos to run in it
[13:44] < zer0_o^> ah
[13:44] < demian> well, yeah, i know :)
[13:44] < esden> demian: ;-)
[13:53] < esden> ok ... cu all
[13:54] < demian> cya, im in classes now :-)
[14:08] < zer0_o^> have fun
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[14:08] < tcr> moin all
[14:09] < zer0_o^> hi tcr
[14:11] < tcr> jo, moin ;)
[14:30] < barthel> moin tcr
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[14:41] < barthel> [ander:
[14:42] < barthel> [anders]: do you include the GARNOME in the buildsystem of rock-gnome2
[14:42] < barthel> ?
[14:44] < praenti> does somebody know arc?
[14:45] < tcr> [anders]: you were interested in that Htree patch for ext3. Now it's almost finally and will hopefully merged into 2.5 soon. But if you want to test it, i'll give you the adree to the patch (there is now a back-merged version to 2.4.19 as well)
[14:45] < tcr> s,finally,final,
[14:47] < barthel> la
[15:04] < rolla> re
[15:19] < tcr> huebi: present?
[15:20] < [anders]> barthel: no, Mike and I have grabbed the recommended packages and I worked out the build order...
[15:21] < [anders]> tcr: what I might do is wait until it is in 2.5 proper and then spin an UML kernel and have a play with that..
[15:22] < tcr> [anders]: i'm currently updating e2fsprogs and am preparing the kernel compile
[15:23] < [anders]> barthel: with the recent updates in 1.5.19 (previous gnome2 build in 1.5 was 1.5.18-ish) I have had to rework the order of a few things, but other than that, the build seems to steam ahead quite nicely.. I should be able to make an ISO available in perhaps the next day..
[15:23] < [anders]> tcr: nice one.. :)
[15:23] < tcr> i wonder ... Build-Pkg seems to accept only bz2 compressed tarballs. E2fsprogs is naturally a .gz one. I had to convert it by my own ... huh ?!
[15:24] < [anders]> tcr: did you use ./scripts/Download to fetch the tar.gz ?
[15:24] < tcr> yes
[15:24] < rolla> [anders] :)
[15:24] < [anders]> tcr: it should have converted it to a tar.bz2 in that case.. odd..
[15:24] < [anders]> rolla: hullo there..... :)
[15:24] < tcr> before i modifizied .pz to fetch the newest one (1.29 with htree support) and i ran scripts/Puzzle
[15:25] < rolla> [anders] I am going to be setting up a mirror for the packages for 1.5.19 :)
[15:25] < barthel> [aders]: sounds great.
[15:26] < [anders]> rolla: nice one.. :)
[15:26] < rolla> yeah I added 78G of disk last night for the purpose :) I just need a better net connection :)
[15:27] < [anders]> ah well.. it is in stage 5 and compiling xfree86.. time to grab the changes I made and feed them back into the CVS tree... :)
[15:27] < rolla> :)
[15:30] < tcr> see you this evening... having training now
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[15:33] < rew> moin
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[15:54] < rolla> is it possible to have gtk1.x and gtk2.x installed at the same time ?
[15:54] < barthel> yes
[15:55] < rolla> cool thanks
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[16:19] < rolla> I belive base-archive
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[16:20] < rolla> MIKE
[16:20] < Mike1> Hi
[16:21] < barthel> [rolla]: gnome ?
[16:21] < [anders]> yo Miguel, como estas?
[16:21] < barthel> moin Mike1
[16:21] < rolla> gnome ?
[16:21] < Mike1> hi [anders] barthel :)
[16:22] < [anders]> Mike1: the build is getting there.. in stage 5 now.. should be able to make the ISO available tonight..
[16:23] < Mike1> [anders]: rolla finally got to fix some broken links on our base, i got a stable build on 1.5.19 (normal) and will go for a complete base+opt+ext in team with praenti ( i hope ) and also is time to see if i get rid my old nautilus bug in the Gnome2 tree
[16:23] < [anders]> had to reorder a few things, disable galeon (not in cvs, do that manually) and a libGLU patch in xfree86 (not in cvs, do manually)
[16:23] < [anders]> galeon 1.2.5 and mozilla 1.1 doesn't gel..
[16:24] < Mike1> yes i knew that problem already
[16:25] < [anders]> in any event, that will reduce the size of my ISO and I would not use Galeon anyway.. :)
[16:25] < [anders]> gives me more space to get Evolution working.. ;-)
[16:26] < [anders]> going to finally! start hacking on Evolution.. I think I might even be able to get that working now.. Someone (the xscreensaver dude) told be what might be the ultimate solution, and that might already be fixed in the gtk2+ libs..
[16:26] < Mike1> great
[16:27] < Mike1> could you please coordinate with rolla so he can have access to cvs
[16:28] < Mike1> he already set up a cvs server which i am using as a mirror
[16:28] < Mike1> [anders]: btw i hope you already took care of the changelog thingy
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[16:35] < [anders]> Mike1: there is a changelog, to be manually edited. No fancy-schmancy automagic thingy here... ;-)
[16:35] < Mike1> ok
[16:35] < [anders]> it's in the top-dir and should be fairly easy to spot..
[16:36] < th> hi Mike1
[16:36] < [anders]> regarding cvs access, I am looking at anoncvs (will fix that one way or another) and I'll talk to rolla about write access..
[16:36] < [anders]> moin th
[16:36] < th> Mike1: you are maintaining vim IIRC
[16:36] < Mike1> ack
[16:36] < th> hi [anders]
[16:36] < Mike1> th: vim on 1.5 yes
[16:36] < th> Mike1: there is no gvim included
[16:37] < th> Mike1: if i rebuild it - it's in
[16:37] < Mike1> th go ahead :)
[16:37] < th> Mike1: please fix it
[16:37] < th> ;)
[16:37] < Mike1> th: mom
[16:37] < th> Mike1: could be a matter of build-order
[16:38] < th> Mike1: if gtk is not yet present
[16:38] < Mike1> th yes actually thats the thing
[16:38] < Mike1> th i will take care of this a bit
[16:39] < Mike1> [anders]: btw about the changelog lets please use the latest changes on the top i dont want to be scrolling down to find out what have been done as we used to do in the old style changelog
[16:40] < [anders]> Mike1: sure, no problemo.. :)
[16:40] < Mike1> th: vim is one of the very first packages that gets build on stage tree so thats is actually the problem, just have had not much time lately, anyways thanks for reporting i will fix this in a bit :)
[16:41] < th> Mike1: ok great
[16:41] < [anders]> <- coffee..
[16:41] < Mike1> [anders]: get me one too please
[16:41] < Mike1> :)
[16:46] rolla goes off for some Mountain dew
[16:47] < Mike1> enjoy :)
[16:47] < rolla> I shall
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[17:04] < Mike1> barthel: ??
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[17:11] < kasc> re
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[17:39] Mike1 needs huebi
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[18:08] < barthel> i like your realtime config-parsing if i build rock ;-)
[18:08] < barthel> switching from verbose output to normal and back... fun ;-)
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[18:25] < [anders]> <- going home.. might be back later..
[18:25] < [anders]> have a problem with linc in stage 5, should be easy to fix though.. seen it before..
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[18:41] < mnemoc> demian: are you there?
[18:43] < mnemoc> anybody with problems with the chrooted env?
[18:43] < mnemoc> =[
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[18:49] < _NULL> hi
[18:49] < Mike1> mnemoc: 1.7
[18:49] < Mike1> ?
[18:49] < Mike1> hi _NULLy
[18:49] < _NULL> hi Mike1
[18:52] < mnemoc> yep
[18:53] < mnemoc> i found my problem
[18:53] < Mike1> ?
[18:53] < mnemoc> my build/{mybuild}/root is mounted
[18:54] < mnemoc> so, when build/{mybuild} is binded to src.lalalal./R.Build root is empty
[18:54] < mnemoc> that why i get:
[18:54] < mnemoc> [root@box rock-1.7]# ./scripts/Build-Target
[18:54] < mnemoc> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
[18:55] < mnemoc> my english is shameful :\
[18:55] mnemoc = tarzan
[18:57] < zer0_o^> dont be ashamed ;), mine is crap too =)
[18:58] < Mike1> O_o
[18:58] < zer0_o^> X_x
[18:58] < zer0_o^> x_X
[18:58] < Mike1> :P
[18:58] < Mike1> how are you ?
[18:58] < zer0_o^> ;D
[18:58] < zer0_o^> i'm fine, thx
[18:58] < zer0_o^> oh no.. brb
[19:01] < zer0_o^> the last phonecall today =) yeah
[19:01] < zer0_o^> i think it's time to go home now
[19:01] < zer0_o^> Mike1 what about you?
[19:02] < zer0_o^> i work in a customer care center... 1st and 2nd level support, the customers are horrible some times..
[19:03] < Mike1> zer0_o^: i have 5 more hours here
[19:03] < zer0_o^> huh, where are you from?
[19:03] < Mike1> i am sysadmin never deal with costummers
[19:03] < Mike1> Costa Rica
[19:03] < zer0_o^> lucky man! hehe
[19:04] < Mike1> and guess what?
[19:04] < Mike1> i slept last night :)
[19:04] < zer0_o^> costa rica? nice! beach, sun and girls all the day =)
[19:04] < Mike1> of course :)
[19:05] < zer0_o^> =D
[19:05] < zer0_o^> i go at home, i see you later
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[19:34] < bluefire> hoi
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[19:39] < nAdIeD> H!
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[19:40] < Mike1> hi nAdIeD
[19:40] < Mike1> neron: :)
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[19:41] < neron> :(
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[19:41] < mnemoc> this is my altnick, but here is regged :\
[19:41] < Mike1> mnemoc: porque :( ?
[19:42] < mnemoc> porque no puedo usar mi nick :\
[19:42] < Mike1> k
[19:44] < mnemoc> can you read my last mail to the list? :D
[19:46] < Mike1> in a bit i am currently finishing something
[19:47] < mnemoc> np....
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[19:56] < Mike1> mnemoc: ?
[19:56] < mnemoc> .
[19:59] < Mike1> Ale voy a ir a almorzar luego hablamos esta bien?
[19:59] Mike1 is away: having lunch
[19:59] < mnemoc> yo tb :D nos vemos
[19:59] < Mike1> provecho :)
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[20:24] < _NULL> *lol* what a quit message...
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[20:47] < tcr> guten abend
[20:48] < _NULL> moin tcr
[20:57] < [anders]> lo
[20:57] Mike1 is back (gone 00:58:02)
[20:57] < Mike1> re
[20:57] < tcr> <- eating
[20:58] < Mike1> enjoy tcr
[20:58] < tcr> Mike1: say "'n guten"
[21:00] < Mike1> tcr: de acuerdo :)
[21:08] < tcr> thx ... finished now :D
[21:08] < Mike1> huh?
[21:08] < Mike1> you ate in 5 minutes?
[21:08] < tcr> well
[21:08] < Mike1> hehe
[21:09] < tcr> actually i began a quarter of an hour ago
[21:09] < Mike1> i see
[21:09] < Mike1> i thought you started 15 minutes ago
[21:09] < Mike1> ;)
[21:10] < tcr> almost
[21:10] < Mike1> tcr: /me is jk
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[21:11] < tcr> Mike1: ???
[21:13] < Mike1> tcr: nevermind
[21:13] < tcr> ???
[21:13] tcr wants to know that!
[21:14] < Mike1> tcr: it was just a dummy joke a quarter of an hour = 15 minutes
[21:15] < tcr> er ... i dunno what jk should be?
[21:15] < Mike1> tcr: nevermind
[21:16] < tcr> hmpf
[21:17] < Mike1> tcr: sorry right now i am too pissed off
[21:17] < Mike1> brb
[21:18] < tcr> ???
[21:28] < Mike1> tcr: just something that has happened here dont worry
[21:29] < Mike1> my boss has got on my nervs and has passed the limit of my patience
[21:29] < tcr> i'd drive to redmond to kick the ass of one certain person
[21:29] < tcr> after that you'd certainly feel better
[21:30] < Mike1> well i would prefer to take a bag of rock ROCK him
[21:37] rolla wants to kick the ass of the person who moved all the files on ftp.gnome.org around
[21:38] < Mike1> hahahahahahaha
[21:39] < rolla> don't laugh
[21:39] < rolla> I am only half way done
[21:44] Mike1 needs th
[21:44] < Mike1> th awake?
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[22:15] < Mike1> re
[22:15] < Mike1> rolla: finished yet?
[22:16] < rolla> I think so
[22:16] < rolla> go ahead and co it
[22:16] < rolla> sorry I missed my window my 18minutes
[22:19] < Mike1> ok i start download now then :)
[22:29] < th> Mike1: ack
[22:30] < Mike1> weehhh!!
[22:35] < [anders]> Mike1: I'm adding the odd file here and there to the tree as well.. fixing build breaks.. I've seen'em all before and have the fixes already.. :)
[22:36] < Mike1> th whats the status on your new server setup?
[22:36] < Mike1> [anders]: good i already started a download as rolla has finally finished the package broken url's fix :)
[22:39] < [anders]> Mike1: yeah, I was lagging badly as he was doing the update.. he was taking up all the bandwidth.. ;-)
[22:42] < Mike1> hehe
[22:43] < [anders]> I really really need to start using QoS and set up a good network..
[22:43] < Mike1> btw my lates build of 1.5.19 (normal) is working very nice and stable if you would like a copy of the iso...
[22:43] Mike1 is creating it for rolla but perhaps you might wanna have it as well
[22:47] _NULL listens to: death in june - rain of despair
[22:47] Mike1 smiles to _NULL
[22:47] < _NULL> Mike1: why so?
[22:47] < [anders]> hmm.. not the ISO, but the rock-sources would be handy.. unless it is all in huebi's cvs already.. :)
[22:48] < [anders]> <- afk, fixing 1.5.19-gnome2 build-break
[22:48] < Mike1> [anders]: you mean packages sources?
[22:48] < Mike1> or the source tree?
[22:48] < Mike1> _NULL: just wanted to
[22:49] < _NULL> hmhm.
[22:49] < _NULL> These Things You See // All Mean Nothing // These Things You See // All Mean Nothing // In All Your Life // There is No Worth // All Plans You Make // Tumble To Earth << great song...
[22:54] rolla think _NULL needs help
[22:55] < _NULL> rolla: why? i'm just listening to gothic...
[22:55] < rolla> that is the reason
[22:55] < _NULL> but the music is the only truth as it seems... world failed..
[22:56] < _NULL> rolla: why should i need help?
[22:56] rolla doesn't have time for this today
[22:56] < _NULL> okay.
[22:57] < tcr> "diese welt wird brennen, und was von ihr bleibt, kaum mehr als asche, nicht mehr als der dreck, aus der sie enstand. Benzin ist mein Begleiter, mein freund und wegbereiter, sein geruch an meiner seite, und asche wird sein jetzt noch lebt. Deutschland in Flammen, brenne deustches vaterland. Deutschland in Flammen, brenne mein vaterland."
[22:57] tcr is listening to Eisregen - Deutschland in flammen
[22:57] < tcr> anyone who needs help?
[22:57] < _NULL> tcr: hehe ;PP
[22:57] _NULL doesn't need help.
[23:01] < [anders]> Mike1: nope, I mean fixing build-breaks.. Not download breaks..
[23:02] < Mike1> [anders]: what packages are braking for you ?
[23:02] < [anders]> latest was libbonobo.. fixed so far are linc, gdk-pixbuf and bonobo-activation
[23:03] < [anders]> will carry on tomrrow morning.. bedtime now.. :)
[23:03] < [anders]> night night all.. :)
[23:03] < Mike1> mmm ok
[23:04] < mnemoc> night? :\ europeans =[
[23:04] < tcr> gn8 [anders] ... schlaf gut
[23:05] < Mike1> mnemoc: yes most of the people here are europeans
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[23:06] < tcr> yup ... and me is watching Harald Schmidt now and then zZz
[23:06] < tcr> cu all
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