--- Log opened Wed Oct 02 00:00:36 2002
--- Day changed Wed Oct 02 2002
00:32 < Mike1> night all
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00:53 < tsa> n8
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01:07 < h0h0> anyone know what "Amstelking" is?
01:07 < h0h0> possibly relateing to the catholic church
01:07 < h0h0> and likely misspelled?
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09:37 < barthel_> re
09:40 < barthel_> i've problems to build rock-gnome2 (1.5.19)... it breaked on stage 3 package procmail :-(
09:42 < barthel_> 3-procmail.err: /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: final link failed: File truncated
09:42 < barthel_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
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10:03 < tcr> moin all
10:04 < barthel> moin moin ;)
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10:57 < tcr> https://www.greenwoodsoftware.com/less/less-378.tar.gz
10:57 < tcr> less 378 was released
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11:39 * barthel lunch and meeting till 4h
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14:19 < LocalHero> Hello :)
14:28 < barthel> re
14:56 < rolla> re
15:49 < [anders]> meep...
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15:50 < [anders]> <- afk, going to reset a bonkers server elsewhere in the building.. physical presence required.. :-(
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15:51 < barthel> no reset via network ? ;)
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16:08 < [anders]> barthel: nope. no reset via network.. I've been thinking about having a programmable powerswitch that can be controlled from some box on the network, but they won't let me do that..
16:09 < barthel> ;/ so you have to go...
16:09 < barthel> i've found my builderror... i think
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16:32 < [anders]> barthel: did you post it on the list?
16:32 < [anders]> barthel: I responded to your messages, dunno if you seen them yet....
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16:33 < Mike1> moin
16:34 < barthel> yep
16:34 < barthel> moin, moin...
16:35 < Mike1> :)
16:36 < barthel> Mike1: i'm really happy ;) do you read the list ?
16:36 < Mike1> i am on it right now
16:36 < Mike1> mom
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16:56 < Mike1> barthel looks like the mailing list is actually been very helpfull
16:56 < Mike1> :)
17:00 < barthel> ;)
17:07 < rolla> Mike
17:07 < Mike1> Joel
17:11 < [anders]> meep
17:12 < barthel> beeep
17:12 < Mike1> master [anders] :)
17:12 < [anders]> Hoping to hear back from the accountants today that they confirm my new company. It will be helpful when I speak to the agency telling them the new company details.. :-D
17:13 * Mike1 finished his build last night
17:13 < [anders]> Mike1: did it work properly?
17:13 < Mike1> i am installing it right now
17:13 < [anders]> I need to sit down with VMware and my new ISO and install that..
17:13 < Mike1> then i will finishe the tut i am making for the gnome people
17:14 < Mike1> [anders]: dont you have aditiona partitions in ur drive to acomplish this?
17:14 < [anders]> Mike1: I have to little space on my hard-drive to do this..
17:14 < Mike1> :P
17:15 < [anders]> I also need to hack on the install disks to make LVM utils available in the initrd somehow..
17:18 < Mike1> [anders]: and journalised fs :)
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17:22 < rolla> almost have all the ext packages
17:22 < Mike1> cool
17:22 < barthel> yep...
17:22 < Mike1> so it looks like i will soon run a new build
17:22 < Mike1> barthel how are you doing with ur build problem?
17:23 < barthel> the build build ;) stage 3 eog
17:23 < Mike1> great
17:23 < barthel> i modify my Config-file... see list
17:23 < Mike1> so was it tmpfs?
17:23 < Mike1> ack
17:24 < barthel> no tmpfs... it's doesnt work for me...
17:24 < barthel> uuuuhhhhh now it build mozilla ;))
17:24 < Mike1> great
17:25 < Mike1> it will take sometime to build mozilla though :P
17:26 < barthel> my favorite is galeon ;/ but [anders] said he can't build galeon...
17:26 < Mike1> i have some option that _might_ get galleon to build
17:26 < barthel> aha...
17:26 < Mike1> thought is just theory i have not test it
17:27 < barthel> hhhmmmm...
17:27 < barthel> send me the file... galeon was not build yet.
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17:31 < Mike1> :PPP
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17:31 < [anders]> Mike1: post galeon.conf to the list, and if barthel get's it to work, I'll add it to cvs.. :)
17:31 < Mike1> you have to modify the galeon.conf file
17:31 < Mike1> ok one moment
17:38 < barthel> it's a really long moment ;)
17:40 < Mike1> barthel ack
17:41 < barthel> ;)
17:41 < Mike1> ok writing new mail to the list
17:41 < Mike1> barthel you are going to to be the first one to test new galeon.conf
17:42 < Mike1> hopefully it will build though i certainly have no idea of what will happen
17:43 < barthel> okok... if it wasn't build i comment galeon out and try again ;)
17:43 < Mike1> ack
17:45 * barthel waiting on galeon.conf ;))))))
17:46 < Mike1> sent
17:47 < barthel> it turns mind. 3 times around the world... to the moon and back... oohh i've mail ;)
17:47 < Mike1> barthel have fun
17:47 < barthel> ;-/ not as an attachment ?!
17:47 < Mike1> rolla you may use it too :)
17:48 < Mike1> just copy paste :P
17:49 < barthel> between 2 physical consoles ??? joker ;)
17:50 < Mike1> gpm
17:50 < Mike1> :P no i am not joking
17:52 < barthel_> ok... galeon.conf is on the right place... HOPE ;) prax to mathilda and smoke gras...
17:52 < barthel> s/prax/pray/g ;)
17:53 < barthel> i've to wait ~ 10 packages...
17:54 < Mike1> barthel yeah but mozilla will take a while more
17:54 < Mike1> btw what kind processor you have?
17:55 < barthel> 2 intel PIII with 800MHz
17:55 < Mike1> ok it will finish soon :)
17:58 < barthel_> ;) no processbar... new feature for 2.0 ?? ;)
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18:11 < barthel_> build mozilla done ;) start: 17:24:27 finished: 18:10:24 not really performance ;/
18:16 < rolla> grr
18:17 < barthel> grr ???
18:18 < rolla> yeah grr
18:19 < barthel> why ??
18:20 * rolla hates how the ext is handled
18:21 < barthel> ;)
18:24 < Mike1> rolla: what exactly do you dislike about it?
18:25 < rolla> the fact that you remove the .ext and dir for a package
18:25 < rolla> and then the damn thing goes and read yet another file to decide to download the ext file again
18:25 < Mike1> 0_o
18:26 < rolla> how many damn files do we need that do the same damn thing :(
18:27 < Mike1> did you run Puzzle scrip after you removed the the ext dir?
18:28 < rolla> yes
18:28 < rolla> it is the puzzle which help create the INDEX file
18:28 < rolla> then the Download script uses the INDEX file to pull down another ext file
18:28 < Mike1> yet it tries to download the package?
18:28 < rolla> no it pulls down the ext file
18:29 < rolla> so when you run Puzzle again it will build the other files needed
18:29 < rolla> But something is feeding the INDEX file and I don't know what it is
18:29 < [anders]> Build-Index ?
18:29 < Mike1> scripts/unsorted?
18:30 < rolla> yeah I am trying that right now
18:31 < [anders]> when you get a good INDEX file, check it back in yeah? :)
18:31 < rolla> that did it
18:31 < rolla> I will now
18:31 < [anders]> eggcelent..
18:32 < rolla> INDEX is no in cvs
18:35 < [anders]> rolla: nice one.. it'll be in anoncvs in about 25 minutes..
18:35 < th> talking about rock-1.5?
18:35 < th> re folks
18:35 < barthel_> last package before galeon ;)
18:35 < Mike1> hi th
18:35 < barthel_> hi th
18:36 < barthel_> NOW galeon build start...
18:36 < barthel_> NOW galeon build failed ;-/
18:37 < [anders]> th: re, no, about rock-gnome2 :)
18:37 < th> [anders]: ahh ok. so i'm off ;)
18:37 < [anders]> th: cheeky.. :)
18:37 < th> [anders]:  ;) well. it's a rock-1.5 spinoff. and rock-1.5 generated INDEX-files ;)
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18:37 < [anders]> th: yeah, that is true.. it's however working.. :)
18:43 < Mike1> th you should it give a try to our tree sometime
18:44 < th> Mike1: i dislike [a-wy-z]term
18:44 < Mike1> ?
18:44 < Mike1> k
18:44 < th> ;>
18:44 * Mike1 rebooting to test latest gnome2 tree build
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18:45 < tcr> moin litost
18:46 < litost> afternoon tcr :)
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18:46 < tcr> moin h0h0
18:52 * barthel go home... cu in ~15h ;)
18:53 * barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;)
18:53 * tcr is listening to Eisregen - Scharlachrotes Kleid
18:54 < tcr> maches jut barthel
18:56 * barthel_ slaps barthel_ around with a small 50lb Unix Manual
18:56 < [anders]> ah well, soon time to go home.. I'm to do a little more work, then I am off. Might see you chaps from home.. :)
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19:16 < Mike1> re
19:22 < litost> 'lo Miguel
19:23 < Mike1> litost: !!!
19:23 < Mike1> where have you been my friend?
19:23 < litost> bigbig math test last week ;)
19:24 < Mike1> i can bet havent seen  you in a LONG time
19:24 < litost> i gotta a B on it, so i'm somewhat happy :)
19:24 < Mike1> :)
19:24 < litost> :)...did you see what i left you
19:24 < Mike1> havent check
19:24 * Mike1 checkinbg
19:27 < Mike1> litost: nice!! thanks !!
19:27 < litost> cool.  i think you'll enjoy =)
19:27 < Mike1> i am sure i will
19:27 < Mike1> :)
19:28 < Mike1> brb i must reboot again
19:28 < litost> k
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19:35 < Mike1> re
19:36 < tcr> wb
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19:54 < esden> hi all
19:55 < Mike1> hi esden
19:56 < blindcoder> hi all
19:56 < Mike1> https://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/system/images/cartoons/cartoonbank/toon_001.gif
19:56 < Mike1> hehe
19:57 < blindcoder> sw33t @Mike
19:58 < esden> hi Mike1 , blindcoder 
19:58 < blindcoder> hi esden *hug*
19:58 < fake> moin
19:58 < blindcoder> moin fake
19:58 * fake just booted his challenge ;)
19:59 < blindcoder> challenge?
19:59 < fake> SGI Challenge
19:59 < fake> i put it up in the cellar...
19:59 < blindcoder> oh
20:00 < blindcoder> hehe
20:00 < fake> now i'll burn a cd, because i dont want to transfer 500 MB sources via WLAN
20:00 < th> fake!
20:00 < th> fake: any news from the krups?
20:00 < esden> hmm ... sweet ... mesh routing ...
20:01 < blindcoder> fake: hehe
20:01 * -> esden has a bad idea ... >_<
20:01 < fake> th: no, unfortunately not. i did do nothing.
20:01 < esden> hi fake 
20:01 < th> fake: :-(
20:01 < blindcoder> esden: I have a lot of them :)
20:01 < fake> th: i am employed again, and this time it's a bit harder.
20:01 < fake> hi esden
20:01 < blindcoder> fake: at least you are now close to ingolstadt :)
20:01 < esden> blindcoder: I will have a wavelan card when I am back at my university ... that predicts ... that I will do _BAD_ things with it ... 
20:02 < blindcoder> d'ouh
20:02 < fake> install windows on a wlancard? is that possible?
20:02 < fake> well, blindcoder did _BAD_ things with his cellphone
20:02 < fake> s,with,to,
20:03 < esden> lool ... no I will start using meshrouting ... and ... perhups we can get a meshnet in ingolstadt ... who knows ...
20:03 < fake> esden: did you ever get the chance to check the area you can cover with one access point?
20:03 < esden> for more info see https://locustworld.com/
20:04 < esden> yes ... that is not much ... I know ...
20:04 < snyke> hi esden & blindcoder
20:04 < fake> esden: that would mean > 1 APs/Clients per house.
20:04 < fake> hi snyke
20:04 < snyke> hi fake
20:04 < esden> that means that this will remain a dream
20:04 < fake> 2.5G    rock-src-1.7
20:04 < fake> fsck.
20:04 * fake should clean up download/ from time to time.
20:05 < esden> fake: ./scripts/Download -list-unknown | xargs rm
20:05 < fake> kewl!
20:06 < fake> ARGH
20:06 < esden> I had to learn how to keep the tree clean ... because of lackning space on my laptop
20:06 < esden> fake: ?
20:06 < fake> this script is uninterruptable (tm).
20:06 < blindcoder> esden: would you please ANSWER me
20:06 < esden> fake: life is hard ;-)
20:07 < fake> blindcoder: answer are expensive.
20:07 < fake> correct answers are unavailible at the moment.
20:07 < fake> esden: no-go.
20:07 < fake> term_emu: cannot remove `file:': No such file or directory
20:08 < fake> term_emu: cannot remove `Unknown': No such file or directory
20:08 < fake> term emu?
20:08 < fake> damn bitchs
20:08 < fake> thats "rm"
20:08 < esden> ohh ... ups
20:08 < fake> awk { $3 }
20:08 < aszlig> re
20:08 < esden> fake: ./scripts/Download -list-unknown | cut -d" " -f3 | xargs rm
20:08 < esden> re aszlig 
20:09 < aszlig> esden: hehe, i'd like an expensive answer, too ;)
20:09 < fake> esden: *PRUST*
20:09 < fake> 870M    rock-src-1.7
20:10 < esden> aszlig: can you pay
20:10 < fake> 333M    x11
20:10 < esden> ?
20:10 < fake> 232M    rene
20:10 < aszlig> esden: yes, 2 silver!
20:11 < fake> bullets?
20:12 < aszlig> fake: nope
20:13 < aszlig> it was related on ancient currencies ;)
20:14 < Mike1> https://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/system/images/cartoons/varia/computerklo.jpg
20:14 < Mike1> *g
20:15 * fake making coffee and having a cigarette
20:15 < aszlig> fake: smokin' a cigarette seems to be a good idea now ;)
20:18 < esden> argh .. I want to be back home !!!! I need a fixed line back !!!!!!
20:18 < esden> *jumparound*
20:18 < Mike1> esden: you sound desperate
20:18 < aszlig> hrm, does somebody have a small uml-image containing rocklinux?
20:18 < esden> Mike1: I do not only sound so ...
20:19 < Mike1> poor esden
20:19 * Mike1 is away: having lunch
20:21 < esden> bon appetitt Mike1 
20:23 < rolla> how do I tell speed and duplex in linux ?
20:27 < blindcoder> *ARGH* I HATE 1.5
20:27 < litost> rolla:  take a look at Donald Becker's mii-diag utility somewhere on https://www.scyld.com
20:27 < litost> depending on what kernel and driver version you're using, it may also be somehwere in the /prof filesystem
20:28 < esden> litost: you mean /proc
20:28 < esden> ;-)
20:28 < litost> hehe...yea
20:28 < esden> I would like to have a /prof filesystem
20:29 < esden> cat "1" > /prof/student/esden/grade
20:29 < litost> yea, that does sound like a good idea...cat /prof/davis/math3000/exam2/question3
20:29 < esden> cat "1" > /prof/mathprof/student/esden/grade
20:29 < esden> that is better
20:29 < litost> ahah
20:30 < esden> I have to introduce it in the university OS 2.0
20:30 < litost> lol =)
20:30 < blindcoder> hehe
20:32 < blindcoder> *argh*
20:32 < blindcoder> 52 broken packages in 1.5-CVS >_<
20:33 < esden> blindcoder: shit happens ;-)
20:33 < blindcoder> *argh*
20:33 < esden> cool down ... ;-)
20:34 < blindcoder> *grr*
20:34 < blindcoder> gnome... eject... libxml... openssl... *grml* *grml*
20:36 < fake> *slurp*
20:36 < blindcoder> fake: don't SUCK that much :)
20:37 < fake> i suck.
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20:38 < blindcoder> fake: yes, you do :)
20:38 < esden> blindcoder: take 1.7 ;-)
20:38 < blindcoder> hi rxr
20:38 < esden> hi rxr 
20:38 < esden> there are also broken packs ... most of them from rxr ... ;-) (really a good moment to say something like this ;-) )
20:38 < fake> hi rene
20:39 < esden> I know rene is having raid problems ...
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20:43 < _NULL> hi
20:44 < fake> hi _NULL
20:44 < aszlig> hullo owl
20:44 < esden> hi _NULL 
20:44 < blindcoder> hi owly *hug* *eg*
20:44 < _NULL> hi * ;P
20:44 < _NULL> blindcoder: don't touch me if you wanna survive...
20:45 * -> esden is touching owl ;-)
20:45 * _NULL is going to kill esden :P
20:46 < esden> *poink* *poink* /me pusching owl with a finger ;-)
20:46 < _NULL> (fear the running NULL to disaster... *vbeg*)
20:46 < esden> _NULL: you will never do it ... :P
20:47 < _NULL> esden: my notebook is not working very good. it "macht die letzen zuckungen" so it doesn't matter if i will end my notebook's life crashing it on your head ;P
20:47 * blindcoder $ finger mail-spam@b5919.pppool.de
20:47 < blindcoder> *hehe*
20:47 < esden> ahh ... that is a cool idea ... you use at least stuff that is worth it beeing smashed on my head
20:47 < blindcoder> I just can't let it :)
20:48 < esden> blindcoder: ???
20:48 * -> esden understanding "bahnhof"
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20:48 * _NULL is giving up... :P
20:48 < blindcoder> esden: finger mail-spam@b5919.pppool.de = finger owl = touching owl :)
20:49 < blindcoder> hmm...
20:49 < _NULL> jaja...
20:49 < blindcoder> while [ /bin/true ]; do touch owl; done
20:49 < _NULL> blindcoder: see some lines above (giving up... )
20:49 < esden> ahh ok
20:50 < blindcoder> :P then it isn't fun at all >_<
20:50 < esden> blindcoder: ACK :-(((
20:50 < _NULL> blindcoder: that's your problem, not mine...
20:50 < snyke> blindcoder has gone away *info*
20:50 < snyke> blindcoder returns.
20:51 < blindcoder> snyke dies
20:51 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:31:32)
20:51 * snyke shoots blindcoder
20:51 * snyke hides
20:51 < _NULL> snyke && blindcoder: that must be true love...
20:51 < Mike1> blindcoder: why dont you use 1.5-gnome2 packages are not braking :)
20:51 < snyke> _NULL: I'm sure!
20:51 < Mike1> btw rea all
20:51 < Mike1> re*
20:52 < fake> "suddenly the dungeon collapses. you die."
20:52 < _NULL> snyke: when did blindy and you get married?
20:52 < blindcoder> Mike1: I did a cvs up; ./scripts/Puzzle; ./scripts/Download -base
20:52 < Mike1> blindcoder: so it works now?
20:52 < blindcoder> and then Download -list-missing | grep ^[bo] reported 52 missing files
20:52 < Mike1> blindcoder: hehe that could explain ur problem :)
20:53 < Mike1> anyways feel free to try out the gnome2 tree its working very nice and stable :)
20:53 < blindcoder> that was what I meant earlier... sorry if it wasn't clear
20:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: ah ok
20:53 < esden> re Mike1 
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20:55 < esden> looooool .. snyke and blindy together ... that would look so good ... ;-)
20:55 < esden> the tall one and the small one ;-)
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20:58 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5
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20:58 (Users #rocklinux)
20:58 [ [anders]] [ blindcoder] [ h0h0     ] [ Mike1  ] [ snyke   ] 
20:58 [ _NULL   ] [ esden     ] [ hackbard_] [ praenti] [ term_emu] 
20:58 [ aszlig  ] [ fake      ] [ huebi    ] [ rxr    ] [ th      ] 
20:58 [ barthel ] [ Freak     ] [ kasc     ] [ simon  ] [ xlock   ] 
20:58 [ barthel_] [ Ge0rG     ] [ litost   ] [ SMP    ] [ zer0_o^ ] 
20:58 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 25 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 25 normal]
20:58 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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20:58 < fake> huh?
20:58 < esden> re
20:58 < esden> what was this ?
20:58 < fake> Netjoined: poland rest-of-the-world
20:58 < _NULL> man down --> dropped into deep water...
20:58 < fake> _NULL "man down" means someone fell because he got hit by a bullet
20:59 < blindcoder> esden: seemed like a netsplit
20:59 < blindcoder> poland was separated :)
20:59 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust215.mid.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux
20:59 < esden> fake ... I am connecting from apollo ... so that had to be something else ...
20:59 < fake> 1 minute outside of europe...
20:59 < _NULL> fake: ok. maybe you are right... but just maybe...
20:59 < esden> fake: POLAND IS IN EUROPE !!!!
20:59 < esden> >_s<
20:59 < esden> >_<
20:59 < fake> esden: it splitted just about a minute ago.
21:00 < esden> fake: I love you too ;-)
21:00 < fake> i know.
21:01 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817B3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:02 < esden> hi blindcoder 
21:02 < esden> errm
21:02 < esden> bluefire: 
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21:02 < blindcoder> tsuma nai
21:02 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
21:02 < esden> ok ... my time is over
21:02 < bluefire> grrr. Damn network
21:02 < esden> cu guys
21:02 < _NULL> hi bluefire
21:03 < fake> cu esden!
21:03 < blindcoder> bye esden
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21:03 < aszlig> c'ya esden
21:04 < _NULL> aszlig: school on thursday is in one week, or am i wrong? /me is confused today
21:04 < aszlig> _NULL: erm... youre right...
21:04 < _NULL> aszlig: thx.
21:05 < aszlig> _NULL: unfortunately
21:06 < _NULL> aszlig: *g* heh, school is great. you can get some sleep there. better than no sleep...
21:13 < aszlig> _NULL: no, but you cannot do pragramming stuff
21:14 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048458.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:14 < capchaos> hi
21:14 < _NULL> aszlig: omg.
21:15 < aszlig> _NULL: hehe, maybe the taechers are not able to get that w2k-dhcp working
21:16 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. did you change something?
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21:16 < aszlig> _NULL: nope, but their ads is crappy ;)
21:16 < rolla> re all
21:16 < aszlig> re =)
21:16 < _NULL> aszlig: ack.
21:17 < _NULL> aszlig: did you complete the cisco-certificate-test? if yes, how many points did you reach?
21:17 < aszlig> _NULL: maybe they will fix it (but i'll not soppurt them ;)
21:17 < aszlig> _NULL: havent time to
21:17 < rolla> NULL
21:17 < aszlig> _NULL: hadnt...
21:17 < _NULL> aszlig: of course. but do you really think that they will fix it, until we'll leave school? i don't think so
21:18 < aszlig> _NULL: hehe, nope
21:18 < aszlig> _NULL: and thats good...
21:18 < _NULL> aszlig: i know. when you had your linuxbox working, then you had no time...
21:18 < _NULL> aszlig: why so?
21:19 < aszlig> _NULL: if they fail (i hope that) then i'll get that part...
21:19 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. maybe.
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21:20 < aszlig> _NULL: then the dhcpd will be no crappy windoze shit ;)
21:20 < aszlig> _NULL: havink some ideas for the security-modell
21:21 < _NULL> aszlig: pardon? you're planing to replace windows with linux?
21:21 < aszlig> _NULL: yep :>
21:21 < _NULL> aszlig: omg. you mean like on your box? with the NSA-linux?
21:21 < aszlig> _NULL: selinux and openwall with lids...
21:22 < _NULL> aszlig: omg. the poor admins of the school will hate you.
21:22 < aszlig> _NULL: all daemons in a seperate uml...
21:22 < _NULL> aszlig: why not openbsd? *cyn*
21:22 < aszlig> _NULL: and a open ssh-port with three rocklinux uml ;)
21:22 < aszlig> _NULL: obsd is crap
21:23 < aszlig> _NULL: don't like bind4 ;)
21:23 < _NULL> aszlig: hmhm. then do what you want.
21:23 < aszlig> _NULL: but maybe fbsd
21:23 < aszlig> _NULL: with another server ;)
21:24 < _NULL> aszlig: do you know if it was planned to use the 2nd partition as linux-partition? or did the teacher tell me wrong facts...?
21:24 * _NULL hits aszlig!!
21:24 < aszlig> _NULL: for all clients?
21:25 * aszlig wonders why _NULL is hitting his firewall
21:25 < _NULL> aszlig: afaik yes. but just as secondary OS ...
21:25 < aszlig> _NULL: jep, i knew ;)
21:25 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. but you don't know anything about the plans, do you?
21:26 < aszlig> _NULL: yeah, it will be done in the near future ;)
21:27 < _NULL> aszlig: cool! when? ;)
21:27 < aszlig> _NULL: in the _near_ future, dunno
21:27 < _NULL> ok.
21:28 < aszlig> _NULL: but my primary target are the servers for new
21:28 < aszlig> s/e\(.$\)/o\1/
21:29 < aszlig> brb, tryink to eat something
21:29 < _NULL> aszlig: of course. cuz the current ones suck.
21:29 < _NULL> aszlig: guten appettit
21:29 < aszlig> _NULL: heh, the proxy for example
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21:30 < _NULL> aszlig: wuah. don't remind me... :P
21:31 < aszlig> _NULL: cause the fuckin' proxy is totally misconfigurated
21:31 < _NULL> aszlig: hmhm. what proxy is it btw? win-proxy?
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21:31 < aszlig> _NULL: yes, w2k
21:32 < aszlig> _NULL: must get rid of it!
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21:32 < _NULL> aszlig: ok. isn't there also a IIS running?
21:32 < aszlig> _NULL: nope
21:32 < aszlig> _NULL: the proxy is listening on port 80
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21:33 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. i just thought that one was at school... uh. alzheimer...
21:33 < aszlig> _NULL: hmm, i'll register the channel #ingolstadt for discussion about the city-net
21:33 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. ok.
21:34 < aszlig> _NULL: but must wait...
21:34 < aszlig> ;)
21:34 < aszlig> servis are currently down
21:35 < aszlig> s/^.*\>/services/
21:35 < _NULL> aszlig: hm. thousend years later...
21:35 < _NULL> (wuah. i should give up trying to write...)
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21:36 < LocalHero> Hello :)
21:37 < _NULL> hi LocalHero
21:37 < LocalHero> _NULL, Whats up?
21:37 < _NULL> LocalHero: nothing special. thx. and to you?
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21:38 < LocalHero> _NULL, na nothing. Trying to do some homework :(
21:39 < _NULL> LocalHero: homework?? *confused*
21:41 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817B3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
21:44 < LocalHero> _NULL, well Im currently studying at Lunds institute of technology in sweden. Need to do some mechanic at the moment :)
21:44 < _NULL> LocalHero: wuah. have fun with it. i'm sure you're really loving it... *vbeg*
21:45 < _NULL> (scnr)
21:46 < LocalHero> _NULL, hehe :)
21:47 * _NULL is enjoying having vacation for the next 4 days and planing her trip to berlin (in some weeks) ;P 
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21:48 < snyke> MAN DOWN! MAN DOWN!
21:48 < snyke> MAN DOWN! MAN DOWN!
21:49 < _NULL> but i guess they will respawn soon... from the life to death and from death back to life. might we should implement this feature in RL, too...
21:49 < _NULL> (oh, dammit. life = something which you can't control/hack...)
21:50 < LocalHero> Must go now. I need to test redhat8
21:50 < LocalHero> cya all l8er
21:50 < _NULL> LocalHero: bye. have fun fsckin RH 8
21:50 < LocalHero> _NULL, ok :)
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21:58 < rolla_> help
21:59 < rolla_> can anyone help me with screen issues ?
21:59 < aszlig> rolla_: ask!
22:00 < aszlig> rolla_: dont ask if you are pemitted to ask!
22:01 < rolla_> I try and run vim or irssi in a screen session on rock-1.5.18 and it locks up
22:01 < rolla_> I have to login and kill the screen by hand :(
22:01 < aszlig> rolla_: hmm...
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22:02 < aszlig> rolla_: do you use the default screenrc?
22:02 < rolla_> yes
22:02 < aszlig> rolla_: hrm...
22:03 < aszlig> rolla_: never had that problem
22:03 < aszlig> rolla_: but how does your termcap look like?
22:04 < rolla_> you mean the env var. ?
22:04 < aszlig> rolla_: nope, the file
22:05 < rolla_> let me check
22:05 < aszlig> rolla_: do you use vim with enabled colors (syntax highlighting)
22:05 < rolla_> yes
22:05 < rolla_> and irssi uses colours as well
22:05 < aszlig> rolla_: hmm, turn it off and try again...
22:06 < rolla_> okay
22:07 < aszlig> rolla_: if that works, try the following at the command line: echo -en "\e[32m\e[0;0f\e[2J\e[m"
22:08 < rolla_> that locks it up the echo command
22:08 < rolla_> but vi now works what is going on ?
22:08 < rolla_> I even compiled screen with 256 colours support
22:08 < aszlig> rolla_: just try echo -en "\e[32m"
22:09 < aszlig> rolla_: does it work?
22:09 < fake> export TERM=xterm-color
22:09 < fake> ?
22:09 < rolla_> hmm that worked
22:09 < fake> linux? ansi?
22:09 < rolla_> wait never mind that did not woek
22:10 < rolla_> I wasn't inside of a screen at the time
22:10 < aszlig> hehe
22:10 < rolla_> this is driving me nuts what is wrong with it ?
22:11 < aszlig> waah!
22:11 < aszlig> im laggin to death!
22:12 < rolla_> that sucks
22:12 < rolla_> and fake that did not work either
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22:14 < aszlig> rolla_: k, then..
22:14 < aszlig> rolla_: what terminal do you use?
22:15 < rolla_> I am in a gnome-terminal that I use to ssh to my other machine to start screen on
22:17 < rolla_> any ideas ?
22:17 < aszlig> rolla_: try it in slang/linux-term
22:17 < rolla_> slang ?
22:18 < aszlig> rolla_: never mind ;)
22:18 < rolla_> I tried to ssh from a rxvt and do the screen but it still locked up
22:19 < aszlig> aszlig: i meant _text_-terminal (not gui)
22:19 < rolla_> ah okay one second
22:19 < aszlig> ;)
22:20 < rolla_> nope same thing
22:20 < aszlig> hmm, the server is rl?
22:20 < rolla_> rl ?
22:21 < aszlig> rocklinux
22:21 < rolla_> if you mean rocklinux then yes
22:21 < aszlig> yep
22:21 < rolla_> it is rock 1.5.18
22:21 < aszlig> client?
22:21 < rolla_> redhat
22:21 < aszlig> urgh!
22:21 < aszlig> hmm...
22:21 < rolla_> and I don't want to hear any shit about it
22:21 < rolla_> this works with solaris debian
22:21 < aszlig> does it lock up on the server, too?
22:21 < rolla_> it is just rock it doesn't work with
22:22 < rolla_> the server is no where I can sit at it right now
22:22 < aszlig> rolla_: hrm...
22:22 < rolla_> yeah tell me about it
22:23 < aszlig> rolla_: then its time to install a new termcap on the server ;)
22:23 < rolla_> should the termcap file just be one big comment ?
22:23 < aszlig> rolla_: nope
22:23 < aszlig> rolla_: ask fake for specs
22:24 < rolla_> fake you still here ?
22:24 < aszlig> rolla_: dont know much about rocklinux
22:24 < rolla_> ah
22:24 < rolla_> thanks for the help
22:24 < aszlig> rolla_: np, it thik it didn't help you :/
22:25 < fake> im back, i had a cigarette
22:26 < aszlig> fake: ever rewritten a termcap file from scratch?
22:26 < fake> *lol*
22:27 < aszlig> rolla_: k, then lets try ;)
22:27 < fake> what do you think, can i exchange my ps2 keboard on a running system w/ X?
22:27 < rolla_> you might but you never know :)
22:27 < aszlig> fake: yes, sure, usually
22:27 < fake> define "usually"
22:28 < aszlig> rolla_: what terminal-size do you use?
22:28 < rolla_> big ;)
22:28 < aszlig> fake: it should work ;)
22:28 < aszlig> rolla_: echo "${LINES} ${COLUMNS}"
22:29 < fake> aszlig: i'll hurt you if it doesnt.
22:29 * fake trying...
22:29 < aszlig> fake: i always do that
22:29 < aszlig> fake: because i have my keyboard with me, if im not at home
22:29 < rolla_> 70 80
22:29 < _NULL> aszlig: you are really ill/crazy
22:29 < aszlig> rolla_: uuh, unusual size
22:30 < rolla_> why ?
22:30 < fake> hm... aszlig: you are right, it works ;)
22:31 * fake now finally has a us keyb.
22:31 < aszlig> rolla_: mom, i'll write you a termcap-file for it
22:31 < aszlig> fake: try dvorak
22:32 < aszlig> fake: thats the reason why im always with my (dvorak-)keyboard
22:32 < fake> aszlig: i don't like dvorak
22:33 < aszlig> fake: ey!
22:33 < aszlig> rolla_: hmm... urks.. hmm, lets begin: cat > /etc/termcap <<EOF
22:33 < aszlig> rolla_: erm...
22:33 < aszlig> rolla_: mom
22:34 < aszlig> rolla_: does it already exist?
22:35 < rolla_> yes it is there
22:36 < rolla_> aszlig: on second I maybe on to somethign
22:40 < aszlig> its really fun writing termcap-files ;)
22:41 < aszlig> cause the standard termcap-files with that fucking upper-case escapes are cruel ;)
22:41 < litost> are you some kinda masochist :)
22:41 < aszlig> fake: are you dead?
22:41 < aszlig> litost: yeah ;)
22:42 < aszlig> litost: related to terminals: _yes_!
22:42 < litost> hehe...i once looked at a termcap file and shrieked like a girl
22:42 < aszlig> litost: i don't go to sleep with my daily termcap ;)
22:42 < aszlig> litost: erm, it only looks difficult
22:42 < aszlig> litost: but its quite easy
22:43 < litost> yea, i suppose.  half the time i'm looking for the quick fix and don't wanna take the time to really learn it
22:44 < litost> maybe one day i'll write a termcap file, but until then i still think you're a masochist =)
22:44 < aszlig> litost: if you've ever written some ascii-arts by hand, then its no big problem
22:44 < aszlig> litost: ascii-arts with terminal-escapes ;)
22:44 * litost puts ascii art on the TODO list
22:45 < aszlig> ;)
22:49 < aszlig> getting something to eat, brb
23:00 < aszlig> re
23:00 < aszlig> readink evil geniuses in a nutshell *g*
23:00 < aszlig> havink a idea :>
23:00 < aszlig> s/ a/ an/
23:01 < _NULL> aszlig: _you_ have an idea? how did it come? took some weed?
23:02 < aszlig> rotate the terminal at an angle of 180 degrees using terminf ;)
23:03 < aszlig> s/inf /info /
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