-!- Irrsi  Log opened Mon Oct 07 00:00:24 2002
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[02:15] < aszlig> rehi
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[03:43] < aszlig> hullo
[03:45] < aszlig> all asleep?
[03:47] < aszlig> now, im disappointed!
[03:49] < aszlig> because there usually are d3mian and litost who are awake!
[03:49]   aszlig drinking coffee ;)
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[04:01] < litost> hehe
[04:01] < aszlig> ey!
[04:01] < aszlig> hullo!
[04:01] < aszlig> ;)
[04:01] < litost> =)...how are ya?
[04:01] < aszlig> 1 person is awake ;)
[04:02] < aszlig> hey, im fine =)
[04:02] < litost> not for long though :)
[04:02] < litost> it's approaching my bedtime and i'm tiiirrrreeeddd
[04:03] < aszlig> i've got almost more than a week i had not much sleep...
[04:03] < aszlig> summarized... erm...
[04:03] < litost> why not?
[04:03] < aszlig> about 40 hours
[04:03] < aszlig> less than 40 hours ;)
[04:04] < aszlig> and im still alive ;)
[04:04] < litost> i understand.  i sleep about 5 hours per night
[04:04] < aszlig> thats too much ;)
[04:04] < litost> ahaha
[04:05] < litost> any less and i'd be a walking zombie
[04:05] < aszlig> that im now ;)
[04:05] < litost> it's already hard enough to stay awake at work
[04:05] < aszlig> hehe, that will be hard for me, too..
[04:05] < aszlig> today...
[04:05] < aszlig> work begins at 9:00
[04:05] < aszlig> am
[04:06] < aszlig> :)
[04:06] < aszlig> 9:00 utc
[04:06] < litost> ahhh...i have class in the morning and go to work at noon
[04:07] < litost> it's always hard to stay focused after the lunch hour
[04:07] < aszlig> hrhr
[04:07] < aszlig> so, now have to finish that fscking webpage-rewrite project
[04:08] < litost> i think if i _stop_ drinking caffine then i might not be as sleepy
[04:08] < litost> ewww
[04:08]   litost is trying to learn opengl
[04:08] < aszlig> had to rewrite a page created by m$ frontpage
[04:09] < aszlig> s/^had/still have/
[04:09] < litost> gross...sounds like workwork
[04:09] < aszlig> erm...
[04:09] < aszlig> yes, it should be multilingual
[04:10] < litost> is it a big site?
[04:10] < aszlig> currently working on the admin functions
[04:10] < aszlig> erm..
[04:10] < aszlig> hmm..
[04:10] < aszlig> https://www.e-ventus.de/
[04:11] < aszlig> (the first i've done, is that a got rid of that nasty flash thing)
[04:11] < aszlig> s/ a / i /
[04:12] < litost> wonderful!!  it wouldn't have worked for me anyway ;)
[04:12] < aszlig> i hate those stupid flash menus
[04:13] < aszlig> and that one is a cruel one...
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[04:13] < aszlig> blindcod1r: hullo
[04:13] < litost> yea, i don't understand why people slap them on homepages
[04:14] < aszlig> litost: it was too restrictive...
[04:14] < aszlig> litost: because, there was just one layer who is duplicated about ten times
[04:14] < litost> i know.  i almost when ballistic when my university stuck flash on their front page
[04:14] < litost> i see
[04:15] < aszlig> litost: and, if you wanted to change something, you have too change it ten time, too :/
[04:15] < aszlig> s/have/had/
[04:16] < litost> yes, unecessary redundancy is a design flaw
[04:16] < aszlig> litost: additionally my boss is an arsehole!
[04:17] < litost> ahahaha...i guess he doesn't know how to read irc logs ;)
[04:17] < aszlig> litost: he can't understand how difficult it is to tidy up an frontpage-"designed" website
[04:17] < aszlig> litost: he doesn't know about irc!
[04:18] < litost> aszlig: why did he chose frontpage in the first place?
[04:18] < aszlig> litost: because its easy
[04:18] < aszlig> litost: and it produces crappy code
[04:19] < litost> aszlig: well, you get what you pay for
[04:19] < aszlig> litost: really?
[04:19] < litost> aszlig: hahaha...maybe not
[04:20] < litost> aszlig: but i can understand the desire for simplicity
[04:20] < aszlig> litost: hmm, what about that page in other languages...
[04:20] < litost> aszlig: how may other languages?
[04:20] < aszlig> litost: say... 8?
[04:21] < aszlig> litost: then you have to copy that page 8 times with fp
[04:21] < litost> aszlig: i see
[04:21]   litost has never used frontpage
[04:21]   aszlig too ;)
[04:22] < litost> aszlig: :)
[04:22] < aszlig> k...
[04:22] < aszlig> i tried it once
[04:22] < aszlig> to convice me that it produces crap
[04:23] < litost> aszlig: ummm...i notice there is one very large image.  will you shrink it?
[04:23] < aszlig> yep
[04:23] < litost> cool
[04:23] < aszlig> it's now in the database (blob) ;)
[04:23] < litost> i'm no web designer by far, but no page should really be bigger than 50k
[04:24] < litost> well it's certainly a blob :)...in both senses
[04:24] < aszlig> hehe, currently, my version is about 28k, without the downloads
[04:25] < litost> great!  friendly for us dial users ;)
[04:25] < aszlig> yep
[04:25] < litost> s/dial/dialup
[04:26] < aszlig> yeah, im one of them, too ;)
[04:26] < aszlig> urks:
[04:27] < aszlig> revision 1.1: 38MB
[04:27] < litost> good.  i hate when web designers don't consider dialup users. even if i did have flash, or anything crappy like that, it would still take forever to download it
[04:27] < aszlig> HEAD: 29KB
[04:27] < litost> hrm.
[04:28] < aszlig> there is for example a image:
[04:28] < aszlig> s/is/was/
[04:28] < aszlig> size: 20000x18000
[04:29] < litost> whoa!!
[04:29] < aszlig> three of them
[04:29] < aszlig> now they are 400x375
[04:29] < litost> good :)
[04:30] < litost> i can't even imagine 20000x18000
[04:30] < aszlig> *lol*
[04:30] < litost> or even an order of magnitude below
[04:30] < aszlig> arrh!
[04:30] < aszlig> *shriek*
[04:31] < aszlig> have to keep that fscking flash applet!
[04:31] < litost> what?! why?
[04:31] < aszlig> the client wants it!
[04:31] < litost> fsck the client =)
[04:32] < litost> hehe
[04:32] < aszlig> hehe
[04:32] < aszlig> s/client/customer/
[04:32] < aszlig> hmm...
[04:32] < aszlig> k, then...
[04:33] < aszlig> maybe i can convince them killing that ugly flash thingie
[04:33] < litost> isn't it possible to build it so that people who are flash impaired (me and you) can still view the page w/o the ugly flash menubar
[04:33] < aszlig> hmm...
[04:33] < litost> maybe a little more work...but that's more money for you, right?
[04:33] < aszlig> i could check the browser...
[04:33] < aszlig> that isn't money for me!
[04:33] < litost> argh!!
[04:34] < litost> you mean you're doing this out of good will?
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[04:34] < litost> not that there's anything wrong with that :)
[04:35] < aszlig> hrm..
[04:35] < aszlig> otherwise my fscking boss will kick me
[04:35] < litost> that's not good
[04:35] < aszlig> i do a sucking apprenticeship
[04:36] < litost> oh i see
[04:36] < litost> hrm
[04:36] < aszlig> currently seeking a new job...
[04:36] < litost> yea me too
[04:37] < aszlig> but i think you'll have it easier
[04:37] < litost> can't you convince your boss that flash is nonstandard and prevents some people from viewing the site
[04:37] < aszlig> *bwahaha*
[04:37] < litost> especially if it's a menubar
[04:37] < aszlig> my boss...
[04:37] < litost> guess not :)
[04:37] < aszlig> hehe...
[04:38] < aszlig> he is a luser!
[04:38] < aszlig> (hrm, maybe coding another lart for him)
[04:38] < litost> yea, but when i talk to people like that, i try to convince them that it's actually hurting their business
[04:39] < aszlig> erm, what do you mean exactly?
[04:40] < litost> i mean that by using flash, people who don't have browsers that are flash capable will have difficulty using the website
[04:41] < litost> they get frustrated and go somewhere else
[04:41] < aszlig> he don't bother about that...
[04:41] < aszlig> btw...
[04:41] < litost> i understand
[04:41] < aszlig> https://www.stroehmer.de <- website of that fscking company
[04:43] < litost> more flash shit
[04:43] < aszlig> esden: is it possible to cut that conversation off your irc-logs, or include that in robots.txt (so, that google will not find it ;)
[04:43] < aszlig> yeah
[04:44] < aszlig> esden: thx in advance ;)
[04:44] < litost> i have no sympathy for people who use that on home pages
[04:44] < aszlig> hehe :>
[04:45] < aszlig> he does not care about non-ie users
[04:46] < litost> then fine, it's _his_ problem, and it'll only hurt _his_ business
[04:46] < aszlig> erm, btw the menu on stroehmer-page isn't a flash applet
[04:46] < aszlig> its crappy dhtml
[04:46] < aszlig> using document.all (ie only)
[04:46] < aszlig> erm...
[04:46] < aszlig> his business...
[04:47] < aszlig> but i have to werk like that :(
[04:47] < aszlig> s/werk/work/
[04:47] < litost> hrm...the source for stroehmer.de seems a little funny
[04:47] < aszlig> i know
[04:48] < litost> a lot of whitespace between the html and head tags
[04:48] < aszlig> there are variable names like "damussthin" (there you must go)
[04:48] < litost> i'm using mozilla, so it may just be me
[04:49] < aszlig> i'm using mozilla usually too... an trash pages
[04:49] < aszlig> s/an/on/
[04:49] < litost> it does the same with lynx
[04:49] < aszlig> if the page is fine, w3m is much better ;)
[04:51] < aszlig> and stroehmer advertises to be a company for "webdesign", too (funny, eh?)
[04:52] < litost> why the hell is there so much whitespace on all the pages? :)
[04:53] < aszlig> its written in php, but very kinky
[04:54] < litost> i now understand why you like termcap files :)
[04:55] < aszlig> hehe...
[04:55] < aszlig> but terminfo is much nicer than termcap ;)
[04:56] < litost> oh yea...termcap was deprecated, right?
[04:56] < aszlig> yep
[04:56] < aszlig> but its almost the same syntax
[04:56] < aszlig> and its much faster, because the files are already compiled
[04:56] < litost> cool
[04:57] < aszlig> hehe, try infocmp
[04:58] < litost> hehe...are you serious?
[04:58] < litost> :)
[04:58] < aszlig> yes ;)
[04:58] < aszlig> infocmp shows the current terminfo
[04:58] < aszlig> infocmp <termtype>
[04:58] < aszlig> ;)
[04:59] < aszlig> for example:
[04:59] < litost> hehe...okok..i'm rtfming infocmp
[04:59] < aszlig> infocmp screen-w
[04:59] < litost> that's usefull :)
[05:00] < aszlig> hehe ;)
[05:00] < aszlig> i was always fascinated about consoles/escapes/ansi/vtxxx ;)
[05:01] < litost> wow...that is certainly a special quality 8)
[05:01] < aszlig> and... i never write programs using ncurses ;)
[05:02] < litost> ncurses would be cheating for you, wouldn't it? :)
[05:02] < aszlig> yep!
[05:02] < aszlig> it takes you the purity
[05:03] < aszlig> i favour using escapes
[05:03] < aszlig> but..
[05:04] < aszlig> currently some os have probs with it
[05:04] < aszlig> like netbsd
[05:04] < litost> why is that?
[05:04] < aszlig> so in my current browser-project i have to use ioctls
[05:05] < aszlig> netbsd don't understands those escapes
[05:05] < aszlig> they doesn't even exist in there!
[05:05] < litost> hrm...why not?
[05:06] < aszlig> netbsd was designed to be minimalistic
[05:08] < litost> well, i really don't know much about the console layer, but are you saying that netbsd has just left out the functionality you need/
[05:08] < aszlig> waah!
[05:08] < aszlig> look at this code:
[05:09] < aszlig> if($mipdflr=="")
[05:09] < aszlig> {
[05:09] < aszlig> exit();
[05:09] < aszlig> }
[05:09] < aszlig> elseif($mipdflr!="")
[05:09] < aszlig> {
[05:09] < aszlig> exit();
[05:09] < aszlig> }
[05:09] < litost> hunh? :)
[05:09] < aszlig> aargh!
[05:09] < aszlig> that does hurt!
[05:10] < aszlig> *klonk*
[05:10] < litost> that takes a genious
[05:10] < litost> seriously, please tell me some didn't write that
[05:11] < aszlig> that did write somebody!
[05:11] < aszlig> aaah!
[05:12] < litost> besides the obvious flaw, what the hell is a mipdflr?
[05:12] < aszlig> now, you know how the disastrousity of that code!
[05:12] < aszlig> dunno
[05:12] < aszlig> i dont even know what a dkmt is!?
[05:12] < litost> my condolences
[05:13] < litost> hahaah
[05:13] < aszlig> thats another variable-name
[05:13] < aszlig> thx
[05:13] < litost> hehe
[05:13] < aszlig> or grph
[05:14] < aszlig> d
[05:14] < aszlig> d
[05:14] < aszlig> d
[05:14] < aszlig> ...
[05:14] < aszlig> hehe
[05:14] < aszlig> s/^d/dd/
[05:14] < aszlig> ah, dd once more
[05:14] < aszlig> ggdG
[05:14] < aszlig> better ;>
[05:15] < litost> hrm :)
[05:15] < aszlig> bwah!
[05:15] < aszlig> i _need_ a cigarette!
[05:16] < aszlig> brb :Q
[05:16] < litost> hehe..k
[05:22] < aszlig> re
[05:22] < aszlig> hehe, thats a real ggdG-job ;>
[05:23] < litost> hehe
[05:23]   litost yawns
[05:24] < aszlig> litost: huh?
[05:24] < litost> ok, time for me to sleep()
[05:24] < aszlig> k
[05:24] < aszlig> gnu8
[05:24] < litost> night :)
[05:24] < aszlig> have to proceed ggdG
[05:24] < aszlig> hmm...
[05:25] < aszlig> ey!
[05:25] < aszlig> that will be the new name of the browser ;)
[05:25] < aszlig> ggdG
[05:25] < aszlig> hrm...
[05:28] < aszlig> esden: again... plz don't forget that! k?
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[05:56] < aszlig> reu
[05:56] < aszlig> s/.$//
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[07:03] < aszlig> re
[07:10] < litost> argh...
[07:10]   litost awakened by thunder
[07:11] < aszlig> hehe
[07:15] < litost> ok, i'm halting so my computer doesn't get fried...
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[07:30] < aszlig> hullo
[07:31] < putra-langit> hi
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[09:01] < tsa> moin.
[09:28] < aszlig> hullo
[09:44] < tsa> hi aszlig
[09:55] < [anders]> narf!
[09:57] < tsa> hi [anders]..
[09:57] < tsa> still having fun with fl_wrapper ?
[10:04] < [anders]> tsa: oh yes..
[10:04] < [anders]> morning tsa.. had a nice weekend?
[10:06] < tsa> yes, sure..
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[10:11]   [anders] needs to mod the build files to copy the fl_wrapper output file somewhere so it can be analysed to track down where the fault lies..
[10:40] < [anders]> Mmm.. the mod was easy, but not complete yet..
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[10:43] < barthel> re
[10:43] < barthel> moin moin all ;)
[10:43] < barthel> <- coffee...
[10:52] < barthel> re
[10:54] < aszlig> re
[10:54] < aszlig> :)
[10:55]   aszlig is eating cigarettes all the time ;)
[10:56] < aszlig> cause i got nothing to eat today :)
[10:56] < barthel> why do you eating cigarettes ?
[11:05] < tsa> hm...
[11:24] < aszlig> barthel: because i have nothing else to eat
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[11:28] < tcr> moin all ]:8)>
[11:30] < tsa> hi tcr
[11:31] < tsa> aszlig: try eating your keyboard instead..
[11:31] < tsa> ;)
[11:31] < barthel> ;)
[11:31] < barthel> moo tcr
[11:33] < tcr> hey keyboards with ketchup doesn't taste so bad
[11:33] < tcr> s,es,,1
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[13:15] < tsa> bbl
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[15:08] < [anders]> narf!! it is the fscking fl_wrapper that is b0rked..
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[15:08] < blindWorker> hi guys
[15:09] < [anders]> I have said this before, but Clifford didn't believe me.. This time I have the files to prrove it..
[15:09] < [anders]> re blindWorker
[15:09] < blindWorker> does anyone of you know if there's a tool to configure Closed User groups on an Apache-Webserver?
[15:10]   [anders] looks out the window and whistles..
[15:10] < blindWorker> I assume that as a "no" :)
[15:11] < blindWorker> brb, need some coffee
[15:15] < blindWorker> ah, coffee.... *smile*
[15:21]   barthel need a sharp zaurus sl5500g ;)
[15:22] < blindWorker> what's that?
[15:23] < barthel> a really sice pda ;) https://www.sharp-usa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,699,00.html
[15:23] < barthel> s/sice/nice/g
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[15:27] < blindWorker> *argh* mozilla just isn't made for Solaris
[15:29] < aszlig> re
[15:30] < blindWorker> re aszlig
[15:30] < barthel> re aszlig
[15:30] < aszlig> hehe, i've been fired today :)
[15:30] < blindWorker> ???
[15:30] < blindWorker> what for?
[15:30] < barthel> what ??
[15:30] < aszlig> because i'm fed up with my boss :)
[15:31] < blindWorker> that's bad...
[15:31] < aszlig> bad?
[15:31] < aszlig> i feel better now ;)
[15:31] < barthel> hhhmmm...
[15:31] < barthel> thats good ;)
[15:32] < blindWorker> hmm... at least you can stay in bed tomorrow morning :-)
[15:32] < barthel> do you have a new job ?
[15:32] < aszlig> barthel: nope
[15:32] < barthel> and on horizont ?
[15:32] < aszlig> dunno
[15:32] < barthel> hhhmmm...
[15:32] < blindWorker> $ finger aszlig
[15:32] < blindWorker> aszlig has no plan :-)
[15:33] < barthel> ;)
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[15:35] < blindWorker> argh, stupid proxies
[15:35] < barthel> aszlig: what was your core-work ?
[15:36] < aszlig> barthel: coding on some projects
[15:36] < rolla> re
[15:36] < barthel> hi rolla
[15:36] < aszlig> hullo rolla
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[16:03] < blindWorker> sw33t
[16:03] < blindWorker> GoogleBot was at my site 14 times in 6 days...
[16:03] < barthel> Question: it's possible to start alsa-config script without install-prog. ?
[16:04] < blindWorker> phew.... no idea... never used alsa...
[16:05] < barthel> ;/ i've a new soundcard... ;)
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[16:07] < Mike1> hi all
[16:07] < rolla> re mike
[16:07] < rolla> galeon grrr
[16:07] < Mike1> rolla: ?
[16:08]   Mike1 is very happy with his new computer :)
[16:08] < barthel> hi Mike1... greetings from good old germany ;)
[16:08] < barthel> galeon runs on barthel's rock-gnome2 really nice ;)
[16:09] < Mike1> greetings back from warm Costa Rica
[16:09] < blindWorker> hi Mike1
[16:09] < Mike1> blindWorker: :)
[16:11] < blindWorker> don't misinterpret the name.... I"m not really working.... but don't tell anyone
[16:12] < [anders]> meep Mike1
[16:12] < Mike1> moo [anders]
[16:12] < Mike1> :)
[16:13]   [anders] has found a rather problematic issue with fl_wrapper and the Debian box he uses.. It misses files and the flist's are not correct..
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[16:25]   barthel <- have to go home... motorbike to garage ;)
[16:25]   barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;)
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[16:29] < blindWorker> *grml* *curse*
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[16:56]   Mike1 feels terribly sad
[16:56] < Mike1> i think i will be the rest of the day away from my keyboard just inc ase someone try to reach me
[16:57]   Mike1 is away: I'm busy
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[17:11] < tcr> re all
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[18:06] < rolla> re
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[19:00] < defbla_> rxr: ping?
[19:00] -!- defbla_ is now known as defbla
[19:10]   Mike1 everything is fucked up i am out of here
[19:10] < Mike1> bye
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[19:31] < netrunner> sex - drugs and rocklinux?
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[19:43] < rolla> re Mike
[19:43] < Mike1> re
[19:43] -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
[19:43] < blindcoder> hi all
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[19:55] < litost> hi everyone
[19:56] < Mike1> hi litost
[19:56] < litost> whatcha up to Miguel?
[19:58] < Mike1> work and trying to get some bad feeling away from me
[19:58] < zer0_o> reallive sucks
[19:58] < litost> i'm sorry man...hope everything will be okay.
[19:59] < zer0_o> i hate it
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[20:00] < blindcoder> real... what??
[20:01] < zer0_o> reallife
[20:01] < blindcoder> I've heard of it... but I don't think that I have something like that :)
[20:01] < blindcoder> sounds like a really dangerous disease :)
[20:02] < zer0_o> better you don't know it, it  realy sucks... it's full of bad experiences!!
[20:02] < zer0_o> and it seems it will never end...
[20:03] < blindcoder> hmm
[20:03]   blindcoder could plug a third graphics card into his workstation...
[20:04] < zer0_o> why ?
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[20:04] < blindcoder> cause my two monitors are too crowded....
[20:05] < zer0_o> ive got two too..
[20:05] < blindcoder> I still have some spare monitors... and one spare card...
[20:05] < zer0_o> on this box
[20:07] < blindcoder> I'll do so tomorrow... still ave to finish this ROCK-Build
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[20:13] < _NULL> moin
[20:13] < blindcoder> hey nully
[20:14] < _NULL> tach blindy
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[20:31] < _NULL> hi jasonmaier_
[20:32] < blindcoder> hi jasonmaier_
[20:34] < jasonmaier_> hi guys
[20:34] < jasonmaier_> i got a problem with 1.5.19 binary installation..
[20:34] < blindcoder> schiess los :)
[20:34] < jasonmaier_> i installed it ti build my own 1.7 after big problem with building on gentoo
[20:35] < jasonmaier_> also nach installation geht die tastatur nicht.
[20:35] < blindcoder> in X oder allgemein?
[20:35] < jasonmaier_> netzwerk laeuft und
[20:35] < jasonmaier_> allgemein, keine pty anmeldung moeglich =(
[20:36] < blindcoder> ssh?
[20:36] < jasonmaier_> uebers netzwerk angemeldet und gpm gekillt kann ich auch an der konsole mich anmelden
[20:36] < blindcoder> ach... ja, das problem kenn ich irgendwoher...
[20:36] < jasonmaier_> gpm mit rnlvl... rausgenommen geht alles
[20:37] < blindcoder> leider habe ich ausser gpm deaktivieren noch keine moeglichkeit gefunden, dass zu loesen
[20:37] < jasonmaier_> warn purer zufall. habe uebers netz versucht agetty re restarten, brachte aber keinen erfolg.
[20:37] < jasonmaier_> ich meine gpm ist ja nicht wichtig, aber komisch schon
[20:38] < blindcoder> das liegt aber IMHO nicht an ROCK, weil ich das selbe problem auf nem ganz anderen Rechner mit SuSE@Arbeit auch hatte
[20:38] < jasonmaier_> okok
[20:38]   blindcoder tippt auf PS/2 Probleme...
[20:38] < jasonmaier_> aber dachte vielleicht wisst ihr rat. hatte das prob nie unter suse oder gentoo oder gentoo
[20:39] < blindcoder> hmm...
[20:39] < jasonmaier_> ps/2 ok
[20:39] < jasonmaier_> gpm ist glaube ich eh n shit prog
[20:39] < jasonmaier_> hab ich mal gehoert
[20:40] < blindcoder> hmm.... ich hab mir den code nie angeschaut :)
[20:40] < _NULL> jasonmaier_: hast du vielleicht an irgendeinem com-port 'ne maus?
[20:40] < jasonmaier_> gibts aber keine alternative habe mir den code auch nie angeschaut.. ob ich ihn verstehen wuerde..
[20:40] < jasonmaier_> ??
[20:40] < jasonmaier_> keinemaus am com port.. nur ps2
[20:40] < blindcoder> *AAARRRGGGHHH*
[20:41] < jasonmaier_> und die einstellungen mit denen der installer gpm startete waren auch psaux oder so
[20:41] < _NULL> jasonmaier_: und auch im gpm auf psaux gesetzt?
[20:41] < blindcoder> MIR IST NE LED DURCHGEBRANNT!!!
[20:41] < aszlig> *ledueberpruef*
[20:41] < aszlig> *uff* gehn noch alle
[20:41]   _NULL hatte mal das probl. dass sie in gpm den falschen (com)-port einstellte --> tatstur ging nicht
[20:41] < blindcoder> aszlig: :P
[20:42] < jasonmaier_> wisst ihr eigentlich ob bei den aktuellen 1.7 snapshot die ganzen downloadprobs geloest sind ??
[20:43] < blindcoder> welche downloadprobs?
[20:43] < blindcoder> fehlende files? oder probleme mit curl?
[20:44] < jasonmaier_> probs mit curl, faksche urls (gnome, xml2 ....) bei mir warens ueber 70 dateien die er nicht laden konnte mit aktuellen curl und wget
[20:45] < blindcoder> ja, gnome hat die verzeichnisstruktur auf den FTPs umgestellt...
[20:45] < blindcoder> bin mir nicht sicher ob das bereits behoben ist...
[20:45] < jasonmaier_> hab dan haufen patches geschickt bekommen
[20:46] < blindcoder> hab letztens bei 1.5 erst fast 50 URIs nachgezogn (hauptsaechlich gnome, aber auch libxml[,2] und orbi)
[20:48] < jasonmaier_> machte ich bei 1.7 und dann schlug der build fehl wegen irgendwas mit dem ursprungssystem...
[20:49] < blindcoder> hmm... warte mal da hab ich letztens auf der mailingliste was gelesen...
[20:49] < blindcoder> dass eni paket ausserhalb von $root files erzeugt und dadurch der flist_wrapper alarm schlaegt
[20:49] < jasonmaier_> habe jetzt 1.5.19 auf dem zielsystem per iso installiert, werde es von dem aus noch einmal versuchen
[20:49] < _NULL> blindcoder: aber das war auf debian, ja?
[20:50] < blindcoder> _NULL: hmm... stimmt...
[20:50] < blindcoder> jasonmaier_: viel erfolg
[20:50] < jasonmaier_> danke
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[21:02]   netrunner hat gestern 2mal eine iso-installation von drock durchzufuehren. Jedesmal waren Archive kaputt. recht frustrierend.
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[21:02] < tsa> tag
[21:02] < blindcoder> hi tsa
[21:02] < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... dRock hab ich nie ausprobiert...
[21:02] < _NULL> moin tsa
[21:04] < netrunner> blindcoder: wo ist der unterschied? bringt rock normal keine gui mit? oder fehlen nur dinge wie mplayer/libdecss und andere bunte dinge?
[21:05] < Freak> ihr stinker
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[21:05] < _NULL> Freak: hi.
[21:05] < blindcoder> selber stinker :)
[21:06] < Freak> *_NULLanspring*
[21:06] < Freak> *totknuddel*
[21:06] < _NULL> FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:06] < Freak> _NULL: ho.
[21:06] < blindcoder> netrunner: ich weiss es nicht, das ist es ja :)
[21:06] < _NULL> ./kill Freak
[21:06] < blindcoder> hi Freak
[21:06] < Freak> AUTSCH *ohrabfall*
[21:06] < blindcoder> netrunner: XFree, KDE (wer ihn will), mplayer und so ist eigentlich alles da
[21:06] < _NULL> Freak: ich steche dich gleich, mit meinem silbernen dolch ab, wenn du mich nochmal "knuddelst" bzw. "anfasst"
[21:07] < Freak> *antatsch*
[21:07] < blindcoder> $ touch mail-spam@B55e2.pppool.de
[21:07] < Freak> weder geknuddelt, noch geanfasst.
[21:07] < _NULL> blindcoder: das selbe gilt fuer duich!
[21:07] < _NULL> Freak: <Freak> *_NULLanspring*
[21:07] < _NULL> <Freak> *totknuddel* << was war dann des?
[21:07] < blindcoder> hmm... _NULL: kriegst morgen im Zug n bussi :)
[21:08] < Freak> na das war bevor du es mir verboten hast
[21:08] < Freak> sweet
[21:08] < _NULL> blindcoder: na glueckklicherweise fahre ich morgen nicht zug
[21:08] < blindcoder> verdammt >_<
[21:08] < _NULL> Freak: das ist bei mir default und sollte eigentlich jeder schon wissen
[21:08] < netrunner> blindcoder: urgs: "dRock has not some unneeded server programs" ich glaube ich will doch den puren rock ;)
[21:09] < Freak> _NULL: du kannst das aber nicht einfach voraussetzen.
[21:09] < _NULL> blindcoder: haha *gemein_grins*
[21:09] < _NULL> Freak: sicher.
[21:09] < Freak> aber.. ehrlichgesagt.. ich wusste es und wollte nur eine reaktion wie diese provozieren
[21:09] < Freak> nein
[21:09] < Freak> eine reaktion
[21:09] < Freak> nicht wie diese, ehrlichgesagt
[21:09] < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... vielleciht sollte ichs mir doch mal anguggen... wenn ich meine Worksation zum.... 3 mal in 6 Monaten neu aufsetze :)
[21:09] < Mike1> are
[21:09] < Mike1> e
[21:09] < Mike1> ug
[21:09] < _NULL> Freak: du bist unmoeglich!
[21:09] < Mike1> re
[21:09] < blindcoder> re Mike1
[21:09] < _NULL> hi Mike1
[21:10] < Mike1> Como estas _NULL?
[21:10] < blindcoder> Mike1: these dvorak-layouts are tricky, aren't they= :)
[21:10] < Freak> _NULL: ich weiss *g
[21:10] < Mike1> blindcoder: ack
[21:10] < _NULL> Mike1: horrible is a positive word for my current feeling.thx. and how are you ?
[21:10] < netrunner> blindcoder: "dRock has many additional desktop programs ... has additional audio and video tools" ... und kaputte isos. wobei das auch an meinen billigrohlingen liegen kann ;)
[21:11] < Mike1> _NULL: great i am even feeling worst than you are thanks for remembering it to me
[21:11] < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... meine rohlinge kosten auch nur 20 EUR die 50er-spindel....
[21:11]   blindcoder currently feels JUST GREAT!!! Anyone cares?
[21:11] < _NULL> Mike1: welcome in the club of loosers or so.
[21:11] < Freak> HEY can't you just PRETEND to be fine?
[21:12] < Mike1> _NULL: feeling bad != looser
[21:12] < _NULL> Mike1: then not welcome in the club of loosers
[21:12] < blindcoder> _NULL: Usually I'd say something along "Welcome to Reality"...
[21:12] < Mike1> Freak: i am usually fine just some shit around is freaking me out
[21:12] < _NULL> blindcoder: when? for what?
[21:12] < blindcoder> _NULL: if someone is just as or even more down than me
[21:13] < Mike1> perhaps i will read BOFH that might cheer me up
[21:13] < Freak> hum hum
[21:13] < _NULL> blindcoder: yep. reality suckz. people suckz. life suckz. feelings suckz. everything suckz.
[21:13] < blindcoder> Mike1: sounds like a good idea :)
[21:13] < Freak> well
[21:13] < Freak> I'm fine :)
[21:13] < blindcoder> or the complete archives of UserFriendly or MegaTokyo
[21:13] < Freak> at least me.
[21:13] < blindcoder> Freak: ME TOO! ME TOO!
[21:14] < tsa> _NULL: do you suck, too?
[21:14] < Freak> ha! just pretending - but thats fine for me :)
[21:14] < _NULL> blindcoder: wait until wednesday... then you won't feel great anymore...
[21:14] < _NULL> tsa: of course. i'm a looser
[21:14] < blindcoder> Freak: noooo :3 not pretending....
[21:14] < tsa> _NULL: on what do you suck, then?
[21:14] < tsa> *duck*
[21:14] < blindcoder> _NULL: but you will :P
[21:14] < Freak> bluefire: oh, thats even better :)
[21:14]   Mike1 imagines _NULL sucking
[21:14] < blindcoder> *LOL*
[21:14] < _NULL> tsa: on my fscking gericom-notebook
[21:14] < _NULL> *eg*
[21:15] < _NULL> tsa: 1:0 for me! i won. now you are the looser!
[21:16] < tsa> _NULL: i didn't see you suck on anything. no points for you, then.
[21:16] < _NULL> tsa: and you will never see me doing it...
[21:16] < blindcoder> tsa: we will have to wait until 19C3 then :)
[21:16] < _NULL> blindcoder: do you wanna be killed?!
[21:17] < blindcoder> _NULL: am I allowed to defend myself?
[21:17] < _NULL> blindcoder: if you kill me, then: yes
[21:17] < blindcoder> _NULL: we'll see...
[21:17] < tsa> _NULL: i don't want to..
[21:17]   blindcoder will hug _NULL to death :D
[21:17] < tsa> hehe
[21:17] < _NULL> OMG!
[21:17]   _NULL running away
[21:18]   blindcoder now REALLY looking forward to Wednesday *hehe*
[21:18] < tsa> what's on wednesday?
[21:18] < _NULL> blindcoder: fear the running NULL-pointer... especially if this NULL-pointer wears army boots... *vvvbeg*
[21:18] < blindcoder> We'll meet on the train :)
[21:19] < tsa> hehe....have fun.
[21:19] < blindcoder> _NULL: I've seen hot-glue glueing ANYTHING to the floor :D
[21:19] < _NULL> blindcoder: ???
[21:20] < blindcoder> _NULL: how do you want to use your boots when they are glued to the floor?
[21:20] -!- tsa is now known as tsa|ut2k3
[21:20] < blindcoder> tsa|ut2k3: frag some for me too!
[21:20] < _NULL> blindcoder: hm... i dunno. i still have my gericom and my knife to defend myself
[21:21] < _NULL> blindcoder: frag the virtal blindcoder for me, please ;P
[21:21] < blindcoder> gericom doesn't count, it cracks at first usage
[21:21] < _NULL> blindcoder: ack. i already remarked it...
[21:21] < blindcoder> and the knife... try to stick it through me :D you'll have some _fat_ problems :D
[21:23] < _NULL> hm. ok. the "klinge" is about 3 cm or so... but normally you really feel pain, if you get cut by it... (believe me... )
[21:23] < blindcoder> I'll have to get some pills then :)
[21:24] < aszlig> _NULL: you meant the blade?
[21:24] < blindcoder> Or drachi's Chainmail
[21:24] < aszlig> re
[21:24] < blindcoder> re ast
[21:24] < blindcoder> re aszlig
[21:24] < aszlig> *gg*
[21:24] < _NULL> blindcoder: which pills? if you get some zyankali --> here!
[21:24] < blindcoder> erm... ringmail was that
[21:24] < blindcoder> _NULL: no fscking way
[21:24] < _NULL> aszlig: blade = klinge... yeah?
[21:25] < _NULL> blindcoder: dammit *cries*
[21:25] < blindcoder> BA-BY! BA-BY!
[21:25] < _NULL> btw, what is chainmail?
[21:25] < _NULL> blindcoder: memme!
[21:25] < blindcoder> Aber ne ganz harte!
[21:25] < _NULL> *lol*
[21:25] < Freak> he
[21:25] < aszlig> _NULL: you dunno chainmail?
[21:25] < blindcoder> Chainmail = Kettenruestung
[21:25] < Freak> heh
[21:25] < _NULL> aszlig: i really dunno it..
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[21:25] < blindcoder> Ringmail = sowas aehnliches :)
[21:25] < _NULL> wuahaha.
[21:26] < aszlig> _NULL: too late ;)
[21:26] < kasc> moinsen
[21:26] < _NULL> evil
[21:26] < _NULL> moin kasc
[21:26] < kasc> *mampf*
[21:26] < blindcoder> _NULL: your blade will ahve to be VERY small to get through the ringmail :D
[21:26] < blindcoder> moin moin kasc
[21:26] < _NULL> blindcoder: dammit. that's bad
[21:26] < kasc> will wer bratkartoffeln?
[21:26]   blindcoder VICTORY
[21:26] < blindcoder> kasc: no thanks, I'm satiated
[21:26]   aszlig can dive very good with his platemail ;)
[21:27] < Freak> what's this 80's song..
[21:27] < blindcoder> aszlig: but what about surfacing?
[21:27] < _NULL> kasc: bratkartoffeln incl. poison? --> here
[21:27] < Freak> ah I remember.. "I'm still standing" .. wasnt that elton john or someone?
[21:27] < aszlig> blindcoder: erm...
[21:27] < kasc> _NULL: i could spice them that way if you want to?
[21:27]   blindcoder gives _NULL a general Antidote IV
[21:27] < kasc> s/?//
[21:27] < _NULL> kasc: hm. spice doesn't kill, does it?
[21:27] < blindcoder> I don't think it was elton...
[21:28] < Freak> oh yea it is
[21:28] < _NULL> blindcoder: ?
[21:28] < Freak> I love that song
[21:28] < aszlig> blindcoder: it just won't come into my mind to surface and swim!?
[21:28] < blindcoder> _NULL: IV = intravene
[21:28] < kasc> just have to take the 'spices' from the cupboard next to the one with the original spices...
[21:28] < blindcoder> aszlig: hehe
[21:28] < _NULL> blindcoder: and "antidote"?
[21:28] < blindcoder> _NULL: gegengift :)
[21:28] < _NULL> kasc: hm. oki. what kills me fast?
[21:28]   kasc is a chemists... 'spice' can include quite a lot ;)
[21:28] < blindcoder> _NULL: nothing :)
[21:28] < aszlig> _NULL: try some yoruga
[21:29] < kasc> _NULL: what do you want?
[21:29] < _NULL> ./me is going to lynch blindcoder
[21:29] < blindcoder> *MWAHAHAHA*
[21:29] < aszlig> hehe
[21:29] < _NULL> kasc: i dunno. i'm not a chemist...
[21:29] < _NULL> aszlig, blindcoder?
[21:29] < blindcoder> kasc: slow and painful :)
[21:30] < _NULL> kasc: nope. fast and without pain
[21:30] < aszlig> a quick&dirty(TM) poision
[21:30] < kasc> _NULL: what way do you want do die? quick and with lots of pain or slow with even more pain? >;)
[21:30] < blindcoder> kasc: ignore her, she doesn't really count ;)
[21:30]   _NULL = feige --> no pain && fast
[21:30] < aszlig> _NULL: erm..
[21:30] < _NULL> aszlig: ?
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[21:31] < aszlig> i think she cannot sicide, cause shes a wimp
[21:31] < kasc> _NULL: Äther oder Chloroform.
[21:31] < aszlig> s/sicide/suicide/
[21:31] < _NULL> aszlig: you are right.
[21:31] < kasc> _NULL: but its difficult to keep it in a meal
[21:31] < _NULL> kasc: that's bad
[21:32]   blindcoder votes for traditional methods
[21:32] < blindcoder> decapitation for example
[21:32] < _NULL> *grml*
[21:32] < blindcoder> you'll feel the pain at your neck for about 2-4 minutes ni addition to the lack of Oxygen
[21:32] < _NULL> au!au! au! *jammer*
[21:32] < blindcoder> not to mention the bloodloss your brain will suffer
[21:33]   aszlig is selling fresh naftan!
[21:33] < blindcoder> or the *bump* when your head hits the floor
[21:33] < blindcoder> and is being played soccer with
[21:33] < _NULL> hm
[21:33] < _NULL> then i don't feel it anymore
[21:33] < blindcoder> oh, but you will
[21:33] < kasc> blindcoder: thats cruel... that bumping on the floor can cause a serious headache...
[21:33] < blindcoder> at least tese 2-4 minutes :)
[21:34] < blindcoder> kasc: oh, damnit... you're right...
[21:34] < blindcoder> we should place a few cushions under the guilloitine then
[21:34] < aszlig> but zithabar is more devestating
[21:35] < _NULL> omg. lauter psychopathen...
[21:35] < kasc> lol
[21:35] < aszlig> *harhar*
[21:35] < blindcoder> _NULL: see who's talking
[21:35] < aszlig> *gg*
[21:35] < kasc> _NULL: wir sind nur um dein Wohlergehen besorgt ;)
[21:35]   blindcoder thinks he caught a cold >_<
[21:35] < aszlig> cat /dev/sda > /dev/null
[21:35] < _NULL> kasc: wer's glaubt
[21:35] < kasc> jumping from a high building is kinda painless
[21:36] < blindcoder> aszlig: ???
[21:36] < _NULL> blindcoder: welcome in the club. i guss in the train today the window was opened.
[21:36] < aszlig> harm...
[21:36] < kasc> most ppl die from the fear to hit the ground, not from hitting it itself ;)
[21:36] < blindcoder> _NULL: no, I shouldn't have been running around in a sweated T-Shirt yesterday
[21:36] < _NULL> blindcoder: oki.
[21:36] < aszlig> maybe i have to highlight that: cat /dev/sda > /dev/_NULL
[21:36] < blindcoder> kasc: that's when jumping from a skyscraper
[21:37] < _NULL> aszlig: ;PPP
[21:37] < blindcoder> and why sda??
[21:37] < aszlig> blindcoder: ey!
[21:37] < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm..
[21:37] < blindcoder> kasc: there's one occurance of someone surviving a "Ground Touch" - hitting the gruond after the ... "Fallschirm" ... didn't open
[21:38] < aszlig> blindcoder: k youre right, scsi discs arent worth of that
[21:38] < blindcoder> _s_uicide _d_evice _a_ ??
[21:38] < aszlig> hrhr
[21:38] < aszlig> ;)
[21:38] < aszlig> :>
[21:38] < _NULL> pah
[21:38] < _NULL> keine anspielungen
[21:39] < blindcoder> anspielungen?? _ICH_ doch nicht :P
[21:39] < aszlig> *rotfl*
[21:39] < _NULL> blindcoder: stimmt. du doch  nie
[21:40] < blindcoder> endlich siehstes ein :)
[21:40] < _NULL> blindcoder: never.
[21:40] < blindcoder> :P
[21:41] < kasc> blindcoder: und was hat er gesagt, wie's war?
[21:42] < _NULL> kasc: ???
[21:42] < kasc> _NULL: na der Typ, der den Sprung mit kaputtem Fallschirm überlebt hat
[21:43] < blindcoder> kasc: war ne frau
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[21:43] < kasc> blindcoder: und deßhalb hat sie überlebt? *wunder*
[21:43] < _NULL> kasc: ah so. na ja. frage doch den oktoberfestbesucher, ueber den die u-bahn gefahren ist, und der's ueberlebt hat... (siehe TZ)
[21:44]   kasc ließt keine TZ
[21:44] < _NULL> hmhm. egal.
[21:45] < kasc> hat sich eigentlich schonmal wer an der dietlibc probiert?
[21:48]   kasc detex: wohl nicht...
[21:48]   aszlig hat noch n paar tage schlaf aufzuholen...
[21:48] < aszlig> gnu8
[21:49] < kasc> n8 aszlig
[21:49] < _NULL> aszlig: bist du krank??
[21:50] < _NULL> gn8. bye aszlig
[21:50]   _NULL schmeisst sich weg: --> https://www.zyn.de/bushnsaddam
[21:59] < blindcoder> wow...
[21:59] < blindcoder> 44 Stunden fuer 1.5-CVS
[21:59] < _NULL> blindcoder: hm? auf welcher kiste?
[22:00] < blindcoder> auf meiner crazyhorse.... aber nur mit halber Prozessorpower
[22:00] < _NULL> toll und iwe schnell ist die?
[22:00] < blindcoder> die andere haelfte hat ein falsch geniceter ML-Donkey gefressen
[22:00] < blindcoder> 1.8 GHz P4
[22:00] < _NULL> *lol*
[22:00] < blindcoder> sonst waer des schon gestern abend fertig gewesen *grml*
[22:01] < _NULL> hahah ;P *blindcoderauslach*
[22:01] < blindcoder> *_NULLknudddel*
[22:01] < _NULL> NEIN
[22:02] < blindcoder> hehe
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[22:04] < blindcoder> hoi tcr
[22:05] < _NULL> tach tcr
[22:05] < tcr> re all
[22:05] < blindcoder> okay, und nu auf zum naechsten ROCK-Build :)
[22:05] < tcr> moin ihr beiden..
[22:05] < _NULL> blindcoder: have fun
[22:05] < blindcoder> betsuni
[22:06] < _NULL> blindcoder: german && english channel... nicht japanisch...
[22:06] < blindcoder> betsuni = nicht wirklich
[22:06] < _NULL> jaja. japanisch war's trotzdem... :P
[22:07] < blindcoder> so desu ka.
[22:07] < _NULL> haeh?
[22:07] < blindcoder> hhehe
[22:07] < blindcoder> so[,u] desu ka == is that so? == na und?
[22:07] < _NULL> tcr: kak dela?
[22:08] < tcr> ficken??
[22:08] < _NULL> tcr: *g* wie geht's? ;P
[22:08] < tcr> ne, jetzt ne
[22:08] < _NULL> (kak dela = wie geht's)... um das sprach-gewirr mal zu vervollstaendigen
[22:08] < tcr> naja
[22:09] < tcr> gayt schon
[22:09] < _NULL> tcr: ??? was gaytn jetzt ab?
[22:09] < blindcoder> _NULL: Ogenki desu ka. (== Gehts dir gut?) waehrend: Daijoubu  desu ka. (== Alles in Ordnung? (zum Beispiel nach nem Sturz))
[22:10] < _NULL> blindcoder: hilfeeeeee!
[22:10] < tcr> blindcoder: du sollst doch keine Produkte essen, die in Taiwan hergestellt werden...
[22:10] < _NULL> tcr: s/Taiwan/Japan
[22:11] < tcr> alles das selbe
[22:11] < _NULL> noe. ned wirklich
[22:11] < tcr> doch
[22:11] < tcr> ferner osten, das reicht ;)
[22:11] < blindcoder> tcr: y? WanTan-Kloesschen schmecken gar net schlecht
[22:11] < _NULL> tststs
[22:11] < blindcoder> aber ich muss mal fragen, welche Rasse sie da rein haben
[22:11] < tcr> genau frag du mal
[22:12] < _NULL> blindcoder: es gibt bald eine neue... tcr-zermetzelt...
[22:12] < tcr> na igitt
[22:12] < blindcoder> wiesoo? hat er dich *GEKNUDDELT* ?? *g*
[22:12] < tcr> wer will das denn essen?
[22:12] < _NULL> blindcoder: ruhe!!!
[22:12] < _NULL> tcr: der blindcoder
[22:12] < blindcoder> ruft mich wie ihr wollt, nur nciht zu spaet zum essen :)
[22:12] < tcr> na iiiih
[22:13] < blindcoder> also, ich hau mich ins bett
[22:13] < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai mina-san!
[22:13] < _NULL> blindcoder: tststs. gn8. bye
[22:13] < tcr> also wirklich
[22:13] < _NULL> blindcoder, du memme ! ;P
[22:13] < tcr> gedeihe gut
[22:13] < _NULL> tcr: irgendwie zynisch heute?
[22:14] < tcr> normal
[22:14] < _NULL> hilfe! ;)
[22:14] < tcr> naja
[22:15] < _NULL> hm?
[22:16] < tcr> ach ich steh grad vor nem core dump
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[22:17] < _NULL> tach hackbard
[22:17] < Mike1> divxteam.de ...
[22:17] < _NULL> hm. "i like core dumps"
[22:18] < tcr> At least i know now where the reason of that core dump lays
[22:18] < _NULL> hm.
[22:18] < _NULL> tcr: haste songs von "letzte instanz"?
[22:19] < hackbard> hi
[22:19] < tcr> ich hatte mal welche in der queue, aber mehr auch ne
[22:19] < _NULL> tcr: :-( danke.
[22:29] < kasc> moin hackbard
[22:29] < hackbard> moin ;)
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[22:30] < defbla> rxr: zufaellig da?
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[22:42] < hackbard> nick defbla
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[22:42] < defbla> re :p
[22:44] < [anders]> bedtime.. night night people..
[22:45] < kasc> night [anders]
[22:45] < [anders]> night kasc
[22:46] < _NULL> gn8 [anders]
[22:47]   tcr is listening to Rage - Set This World On Fire
[22:47] < [anders]> gn8 _NULL
[22:47] < tcr> jo gute nacht anders
[22:47] < _NULL> tcr: kennst du "totenmond"?
[22:47] < [anders]> guten nacht tcr
[22:47] < tcr> _NULL: hm, nö ... müsste ich?
[22:48] < _NULL> tcr: jep. gothic-metal... genial... ;)
[22:48] < tcr> rage ist feinster metal... das unity album ist der hammer
[22:48] < tcr> najo...
[22:48] < _NULL> hm. muss ich die kennen? ;)
[22:49] < _NULL> tcr: kennst du wenigstens tristania?
[22:49] < tcr> so ein paar lieder würden sich lohnen
[22:49] < tcr> joh
[22:49] < tcr> hab world of glass original
[22:49] < _NULL> tcr: ah so. rage against the machine?
[22:49] < tcr> ista ber nicht so mein ding
[22:49] < _NULL> hm. warum ned?
[22:49] < tcr> ne, einfach nur Rage
[22:50] < tcr> world of glass zumindestens ist nicht so besonders
[22:50] < _NULL> hm. oki.
[22:51]   tcr is dreaming to Lacrimosa - Alleine zu zweit
[22:51] < _NULL> tcr: was hoerst du alles fuer musik? eher metal...?
[22:51] < _NULL> oh ja, der song ist geil
[22:51] < tcr> ich finde bei Tristina keine wirkliche melodie
[22:51] < tcr> mir kommt's sehr viel auf die melodie an
[22:52] < tcr> ne metall find ich eigentlich nicht so gut
[22:52] < _NULL> hm. ich weiss ned. bei tristania laeuft's mir kalt den ruecken runter... die songs sind einfach... mama mia! ;)
[22:52] < tcr> aber bei dem unity album von Rage ist der Refrain meistens ein Frauenchor mit sehr gtuen gitarren beats, das rockt
[22:52] < _NULL> hmhm
[22:53] < tcr> entwine find ich z.B. übersaumäßiighamergeil
[22:53] < _NULL> sacht mir gar nix...
[22:53] < _NULL> welcher stil ist das?
[22:53] < tcr> hmm
[22:53] < tcr> weiß ich nicht
[22:54] < _NULL> tststs.
[22:54] < tcr> ich kenn auch nichts vergleichbares
[22:55] < tcr> totenmond klingt aber interessant... kann ich ziehen? ...
[22:55] < _NULL> hm. /me leecht mal ein paar songs... ;)
[22:55] < tcr> ich glaub es wär gut, wenn du mal ein ftp aufmachen würdest
[22:55] < tcr> ich hab kein bock 8)
[22:55] < _NULL> sorry. ne. im moment nix. sind auf meinem notebook... :-( --> kein ethernet im mometn
[22:56] < tcr> hrm
[22:56] < tcr> mal neu connecten
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[23:00] < _NULL> re tcr
[23:00] < tcr> welche lieder läds du dir grad runter? von rage?
[23:03] < _NULL> nur das, das du nanntest
[23:04] < tcr> empfehlen kann ich: dies irae, down, Set this world on fire und from the cradle to the grave
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[23:04] < tcr> hm, ich lad grad totenmond - neonazi
[23:05] < _NULL> hmhm.
[23:05] < kasc> klingt irgendwie alles nicht allzu lebensbejaend... *find*
[23:06] < _NULL> kasc: *ggg*
[23:06] < _NULL> kasc: kein gothic/metal/rock-hoerer? ;P
[23:06] < kasc> nicht wirklich
[23:06] < tcr> solang kein hiphop/rab oder techno hörer, ist alles i.o.
[23:07] < kasc> 'ich bin ein fröhlicher Mensch und höre fröhliche Musik' [tm]
[23:07] < tcr> naja wer volksmusik gut findet, dem ist eh nicht mehr zu helfen :->
[23:07] < kasc> ;)
[23:07] < _NULL> tcr: *ggg* genau.
[23:07] < _NULL> kasc: mit anderen worten: du hoerst pop?
[23:07] < tcr> meine einstellung steht auch kontrovers zu dem Bild, was die meisten mit solch einer Musik implizieren
[23:08] < kasc> Schunkelmusik ist nicht allzu toll, aber echte Volkslieder, insbesondere aus Irland oder Schottland, finde ich schon hörenswert
[23:08] < tcr> nur als folkmetal
[23:08] < kasc> _NULL: nein. Pop ist keine Musik, Pop ist Kommerz
[23:08]   tcr rocks to Cruachan - Ossian's Return
[23:08] < _NULL> kasc: hm. celtic ist imho auch noch geil... (loreena mckennit...)
[23:08] < tcr> irish folkmetal
[23:09] < kasc> oder Jazz, Klassik, 'Fernweh-Musik', ...
[23:09] < _NULL> kasc: jazz && klassik sind auch genial. "fernweh-musik"?
[23:10] < kasc> _NULL: dazu zähle ich Titel wie 'Adiemus' oder Künstler wie Enya
[23:10] < tcr> uhi
[23:10] < tcr> gothic ist nichts anderes
[23:11] < kasc> tcr: der Unterschied ist der Grad an Depressivität...
[23:11] < tcr> nur sind meistens die texte eher traurig und auf die Liebe oder den Tod bezogen
[23:11] < _NULL> tcr: enya ist imho auch eher celtic...
[23:12] < _NULL> tcr: z.b. mantus - daran kann 's sogar ein blinder erkennen imho...
[23:12] < tcr> naja
[23:12] < tcr> die sängerin von mantus singt ein wenig zu monoton, imo
[23:13] < tcr> das hört sich an als ob die gekifft hätte und irgendwo anders wär %)
[23:13]   tcr träumt zu ASP - Und Wir Tanzten
[23:13]   kasc hat hier Herbie_Hancock/The_Complete_Blue_Note_60s_Sessions im Angebot *g*
[23:13] < _NULL> tcr: hm? aber imho ist genau das, was mantus ausmacht... --> gedrueckte stimmung, traurigkeit, monotonie, resignation...
[23:13] < kasc> 6 cd's
[23:13] < Mike1> huebi: awake?
[23:13] < _NULL> kasc: ??? whois is this person?
[23:13] < tcr> find ich ne so dolle
[23:14]   Mike1 needs huebi
[23:14] < kasc> _NULL: Jazz...
[23:14] < tcr> Mike1: who doesn't do it?
[23:14] < Mike1> hi tcr
[23:14] < kasc> _NULL: Hörprobe?
[23:14] < Mike1> When will 1.5.20 be released?? /me needs journalized fs
[23:15] < _NULL> kasc: hm. heute nimmer... ich lebe nicht mehr so lange heute...
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[23:15] < kasc> sollte mit dsl recht schnell gehen...
[23:15] < chrisime> mike1, ?
[23:16] < kasc> aber die mp3's laufen auch nicht weg ;)
[23:16] < kasc> (hoffentlich)
[23:16] < _NULL> kasc: *lol* /me ist arme, geplagte isdn-userin *heul* *schnief*
[23:16] < Mike1> chrisime: :)
[23:16] < Mike1> chrisime: i am almost finished with the tut
[23:16] < kasc> _NULL: soll ich nochmal mit bzip2 drüber gehen? *fg*
[23:17] < Mike1> i am working around to include gnome2 extension to current tree so i we publish the tut and it can for sure be usefull
[23:17] < _NULL> kasc: *lol* nee, danke... hast du den rechner aus vormittags an? wenn ja, dann leeche ich mir am mittwoch mal ein paar...
[23:17] < chrisime> mike1, man! 1 week and still not done, lazy dude ;-))
[23:17] < Mike1> chrisime: not really lazy just been busy with several stuff around
[23:17] < kasc> _NULL: an prinzipiell schon, aber keinen zugänglichen server
[23:18] < Mike1> chrisime: but i do have in mind my commitment to finish the tutorial
[23:18] < kasc> hatte in letzter Zeit recht viele Attacken...
[23:18] < chrisime> mike1, ;-)
[23:18] < _NULL> kasc: das ist natuerlich schlecht... :-(
[23:18] < kasc> hab heute alleine 117M in meiner /var/log/messages gehabt ;)
[23:18] < tcr> "und wir tanzten im schnee  vergangnes jahr, und der mond schien sanft in deinem haar, und es tut auch kaum mehr weh, wenn ich alles vor mir seh, als ob's letzte nacht gewesen sternen klar. deine haut und stolz bleibt mir schon lang nicht mehr, ich gänbe alles für ein zaubermittel her, als dass dich mich liebe macht, länger als nur eine nacht, doch meine arme und nächte bleiben leer. Nur dieses eine mal noch schenk mir kraft für einen neuen t
[23:18] < tcr> ag, ich stehe nackt und hilflos vor dem morgen, nie war ich so stark; nur einen tag noch kraft und ich reiß all die mauer ein, nur wer sich öffnet lässt auch die liebe in sich ein... "
[23:18] < tcr> *träum*
[23:18] < _NULL> oh. sweet. was machst du denn mit denen?
[23:19] < _NULL> tcr: welcher song?
[23:19] < tcr> s.o.
[23:19]   _NULL plays: anicent - satanschildren
[23:19] < _NULL> s/anicent/ancient
[23:20] < kasc> _NULL: mit den logfiles?
[23:20] < _NULL> lycantroph ist imho geil
[23:20] < _NULL> kasc: jo. klar.
[23:20] < kasc> _NULL: echo >/var/log/messages
[23:20] < kasc> ;)
[23:20] < _NULL> kasc: *loool* warum 117 mb... --> ursache dafuer?
[23:21] < kasc> Oct  7 23:06:43 Moria kernel: denied incoming tcp: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.57.17.244 DST=80.144.162.50 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=113 ID=53458 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1039 DPT=4899 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00SYN URGP=0 <-- und ziemlich viel von sowas...
[23:22] < kasc> ziemlich sehr viel ;)
[23:22] < tcr> lol
[23:22] < tcr> iptables zuviel loggen gelassen?
[23:22] < _NULL> hehe :)
[23:22] < kasc> tcr: dabei hab ich da schon ein recht restriktives -m limit davor gesetzt ;)
[23:24]   _NULL plays: totenmond - ragnarok *herumspring*
[23:24]   tcr is listening to Die Apokylptischen Reiter - The March Of Revenge
[23:26] < tcr> test
[23:26] < tcr> ping?
[23:26] < _NULL> test failed...
[23:26] -!- litost [~stephen@ajc224-197.ajc.com] has quit ("schooltime")
[23:26] < tcr> ah
[23:27]   tcr is listening to Eisregen - Dreizehn
[23:28]   _NULL plays: wolfsheim - kuenstliche welten
[23:29] < _NULL> *heul* *heul* *heul* dieser song hat was
[23:29] < kasc> was hat der song denn?
[23:29] < tcr> das gewisse etwas
[23:29] < _NULL> kasc: hm. der text passt irgendwie... zu meinem leben ein wenig... etc.
[23:31] < kasc> _NULL: ein Lied über eine künstliche Welt passt zu deinem Leben? chatsüchtig? *g*
[23:31] < _NULL> https://mordeth.pankurokku.com/journal/lyrics/wolfsheim--artificial_worlds.php
[23:31] < _NULL> kasc: les' durch...
[23:32] < tcr> theatre of tragedy - tanz der schatten ist auch sehr gut
[23:32] < _NULL> kasc: eher computersuechtig
[23:32] < kasc> oweh... *X hochfahr*
[23:33] -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
[23:34] < tcr> moin LocalHero
[23:34] < _NULL> tach LocalHero
[23:34] < LocalHero> Hello :)
[23:34] < Mike1> LocalHero: hi
[23:35] < LocalHero> Has anybody tryed to port rocklinux to powerpc or macintosh?
[23:35] < kasc> moin LocalHero
[23:36] < kasc> _NULL: jemand (oder du selber) hat dir eine tolle Scheinwelt erschaffen? *wildvermut*
[23:36] < _NULL> kasc: huh?
[23:36] < kasc> _NULL: na das hab ich so beim Überfliegen aus dem Text gezogen...
[23:37] < tcr> mist
[23:37] -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
[23:37] < _NULL> kasc: nope. leider ned. ich traeume mehr oder weniger davon... na ja. bzw. diese zeit gab's kurz... aber wieder "zerbrochen"
[23:38] -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812F6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
[23:38] < tcr> _NULL: gib nochmal url zu dem text
[23:38] < kasc> och, mit einer mathematischen Lebenseinstellung kann man sich ganz leicht eigene tolle Welten erschaffen ;)
[23:38] < _NULL> https://mordeth.pankurokku.com/journal/lyrics/wolfsheim--artificial_worlds.php
[23:39] < fake> *ARGH*
[23:39] < _NULL> kasc: klar. oder mit der informationstechnischen... nur leider habe ich trotzdem noch zu viel zeit zum nachdenken
[23:39] < _NULL> fake: was?
[23:39] < fake> MANN
[23:39] < _NULL> fake: was meckerste denn?
[23:39] < fake> ../config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimization"
[23:40] < fake> how the hell could _ANY_ compile using the pseudo-crosscompiler ever work?
[23:40]   fake doesnt get it
[23:40] < kasc> _NULL: die Zeit kann man gut damit verbringen, der Welt einfach zuzusehen, statt sich immer nur selbst zu beobachten. ;)
[23:40] < fake> kasc: *applaudier*
[23:40] < _NULL> kasc: hm. verzichte ich drauf.
[23:41] < kasc> fake: danke :)
[23:41] < _NULL> *grml*
[23:41] < fake> clifford or rene or jimmy aren't here by chance?
[23:42] < kasc> _NULL: 'die Welt ist schön! du mußt nur hinschauen' [tm]
[23:42] < kasc> ;)
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[23:42] < _NULL> kasc: *lol* klar. schoen. wo? nirgends.
[23:42] < tcr> meine eigene welt schon %) *fg*
[23:42] < fake> wir sind der singende, tanzende abschaum der welt...
[23:42] < kasc> _NULL: also die Welt um mich herum ist schön ;)
[23:43] < _NULL> fake: ? wer ?
[23:43]   tcr singt und tanzt efreut sich seines Daseins als Abschaum... juhu
[23:43] < kasc> so, mal sehen, ob mein derzeitiger rock build noch heute nacht mit 'nem Fehler unterbricht oder erst morgen...
[23:43] < _NULL> kasc: meine rechner auch. aber was nuetzen mir 6 (bald 7) rechner, wenn der rest nur schrott ist?
[23:44] < kasc> _NULL: besteht deine Welt denn nur aus Rechnern?
[23:44]   fake denkt an das wort "egozentrik"
[23:44] < _NULL> kasc: jep.
[23:44] < _NULL> fake: warum denn?
[23:44] < fake> nur so
[23:45] < tcr> was ist dabei?
[23:45] < _NULL> fake: glaub' ich ned. raus mit der sprache
[23:45] < tcr> ich kümmer mich um mich, und nur um all das, was mir von vorteil sein könnte
[23:45] < tcr> und dass ich ein arschloch bin, weiß ich
[23:45] < fake> warning: Warning: GDB can't find the start of the function at 0x55581320.
[23:46] < kasc> _NULL: hat der Raum mit deinen Rechnern ein Fenster?
[23:46] < fake> mir, meine, ich, mich sind die harufigsten woerter in meinen saetzen..
[23:46] < tcr> fake: übrigens, egozentrismus ist nomen zu egozentrisch ;-P
[23:46] < _NULL> fake: na und?
[23:47] < _NULL> kasc: jep. aber mit rollo (zu)
[23:47] < fake> tcr: fsck neue rechtschreibung, bei mir heisst des egozentrik ;P
[23:47] < kasc> _NULL: was ist denn jenseits des Fenters?
[23:47] < tcr> gibst nicht
[23:47] < fake> neologismus herrscht.
[23:47] < _NULL> kasc: ein kellerabgang...
[23:48] < fake> egozentrik(C)
[23:48] < tcr> kasc: man, wenn sie kein bock hat, sich an der welt zu ergötzen, dann ist das ihre Angelegenheit, ihr pech, ihr bier
[23:48] < kasc> _NULL: oh, na dann kann ich verstehen, daß die Rechner interessanter sind *g*
[23:48] < fake> OpenLanuage compliant license
[23:49] < fake> *Language
[23:49] < kasc> tcr: sicher, sagt auch keiner was gegen
[23:49]   tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Vom Ende Der Welt
[23:49] < tcr> ;0)
[23:49] < _NULL> oder auch genannt: rechtschreibreform... kann eh keiner mehr deutsch
[23:49] < tcr> doch, ich schon
[23:50] < fake> na wenigstens schreibt man fsck noch nicht mit doppel-k und ypsilon.. oder vogel-v
[23:50] < tcr> ?
[23:50] < fake> vykken?
[23:50] < _NULL> das ist ja auch nicht deutsch. die briten haben noch keine gestoerten sprachwissenschaftler
[23:50] < fake> wie schaut denn des aus. *schauder*
[23:50] < tcr>
[23:50] < fake> FICKEN!
[23:50] < tcr> okay
[23:50] < fake> *argh* *brettervondenkoepfenreisst*
[23:50] < tcr> bück disch, du made
[23:51]   fake *feuermach*
[23:51]   fake geht
[23:51] < fake> bis denne
[23:51] < tcr> schon?
[23:51] < _NULL> bye fake
[23:51] < fake> hmhm, noch Andromeda Staffel 3 erste folge anschauen mag
[23:51] < tcr> das suckt doch
[23:51] < fake> vorher noch boese mail an die liste *g*
[23:52] < _NULL> fake: have fun. gn8
[23:52]   fake ist anderer meinung
[23:52] < fake> n8!
[23:52] < tcr> jojo schlag guat
[23:52] < tcr> erm, schlaf
[23:54] < kasc> n8 fake
[23:57] < kasc> so, bin auch mal weg... hoffentlich wärmt der build heut nacht genug...
[23:57] < _NULL> ist samba eigentlich in der 1.5.19.iso drinne?
[23:58] < _NULL> bye kasc. gn8
[23:59] < th> _NULL: ja muesste
[23:59] < th> RCS file: /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/base-config/samba/samba.pz,v
[23:59] < th> symbolic names:
[23:59] < th>     rock-src-1_5_19: 1.1.0.2
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Tue Oct 08 00:00:42 2002