-!- Irrsi  Log opened Sat Oct 12 00:00:54 2002
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[00:25] < Freak> schlaft gut, ihr süßen
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[00:27] < snyke> öhm.
[00:27] < snyke> wasn das für einer *g*
[00:32]   Mike1 leaves to uni now
[00:32] < Mike1> see you guys
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[00:44] < kasc> re
[00:45] < esden> re kasc
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[01:33] < esden> bleh urghs : https://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/10/10/intro_gentoo.html
[01:33] < esden> we need a gentoo target ;-)
[01:33] < esden> someone still alive ?
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[03:26] < esden> argh I hate my own stupidity >_<
[04:17] < esden> n8
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[05:35] < defbla> re
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[09:56] < tcr> moin all
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[11:33] < blindcoder> hi
[11:33] < blindcoder> anyone in?
[11:35] < blindcoder> *MEEP*
[11:35]   blindcoder 's on rotation
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[12:54] < [anders]> narf!
[12:57] < esden> morning
[13:01] < [anders]> moin esden
[13:02]   [anders] is at "work" (customer site).. Was rather hoping not having to work this weekend, but the need was there so...
[13:06] < esden> poor guy :-/
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[13:44] < SMP> rxr: anwesend?
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[14:45] < bluefire> Moin
[15:43] < esden> re
[15:45] < aszlig> wb
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[15:58] < holyolli> moin
[16:03] < blindcoder> oi!
[16:03] < blindcoder> damn it...
[16:03] < holyolli> hi blindcoder
[16:03] < blindcoder> is there any way to reset a CD-Rom-Drive without rebooting?
[16:03] < blindcoder> hi holyolli
[16:04] < blindcoder> hmm.... I could pull the power plug of the drive....
[16:05] < holyolli> i think thats one possibility
[16:06] < blindcoder> okay, if I'm gone in a few seconds then you know taht you shouldn't do this :)
[16:07] < holyolli> *g*
[16:07] < holyolli> good luck...! ;)
[16:07] < blindcoder> thanks :)
[16:07] < blindcoder> hmm
[16:07] < snyke> hi benji
[16:07] < blindcoder> okay, PULLING works
[16:07] < blindcoder> now on putting it back into place
[16:08] < blindcoder> *test*
[16:08] < blindcoder> sw33t...
[16:08] < aszlig> blindcoder: hehe, try using fuser :P
[16:08] < blindcoder> fuser???
[16:09] < blindcoder> have you lost the last bits of sanity?
[16:11] < aszlig> blindcoder: hrm, why?
[16:12] < blindcoder> what good would fuser do with a cdrdao-distorted CD-Writer?
[16:12] < esden> so
[16:12] < esden> hi blindcoder
[16:12] < esden> danke fuer die mail
[16:12] < blindcoder> hi esden
[16:12] < blindcoder> esden: np :)
[16:12] < holyolli> hi esden
[16:14] < blindcoder> aszlig!!!
[16:14] < blindcoder> comment plz!!!
[16:15] < esden> argh
[16:15] < aszlig> re
[16:15] < aszlig> blindcoder: whet did you want to reset?
[16:16] < blindcoder> it's a ide-scsi IDE-CD-Writer
[16:16] < blindcoder> and it tries to read CDs for about a minute or two and then says there's no CD in it
[16:16] < blindcoder> cdrdao unlock didn't help
[16:16] < aszlig> blindcoder: oh...
[16:16] < blindcoder> and cdrdao write gives me WARNING: Unit not ready, still trying...
[16:17] < blindcoder> so, what good would FUSER do there?
[16:17] < aszlig> blindcoder: then fuser wasn't a good idea..
[16:17] < blindcoder> right...
[16:17] < blindcoder> I can tell whether my CD is mounted or not
[16:17] < aszlig> blindcoder: you didn't explain exactly..
[16:17] < blindcoder> *sigh*
[16:17] < blindcoder> okay, have to reboot....
[16:17] < aszlig> blindcoder: c'ya later ;)
[16:17] < blindcoder> cause unplugging the power cord to the drive didn't work either
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[16:21] < tcr> re all
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[16:22] < blindcoder> aaah.... tell me it isn't true..
[16:23] < blindcoder> looks like my CD-Writer is finished....
[16:23] < blindcoder> as in destroyed, unusable, damaged, fucked up beyond all repair
[16:23] < aszlig> blindcoder: gimme!
[16:23] < blindcoder> aszlig: can it
[16:23] < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm ;)
[16:24] < blindcoder> *argh*
[16:24] < blindcoder> and it's too late to buy one, too *grrrr*
[16:24] < aszlig> blindcoder: hrm...
[16:29] < blindcoder> ~aaah.... this sucks....
[16:30] < blindcoder> This is another one of these days.
[16:30] < blindcoder> But, somehow, each day seems to become one of those days.
[16:30] < snyke> hum.
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[16:32] < owl> seid gegruesst (hi) ;)
[16:33] < blindcoder> hi owly
[16:33] < owl> moin blindy ;)
[16:46] < esden> puhh
[16:47] < owl> moin esden
[16:47] < esden> blindcoder: are you home ?
[16:47] < esden> hi owl
[16:47] < esden> blindcoder: would you like to go bitz and hack on the login manager ?
[16:47] < esden> and I have also to talk with you ...
[16:48] < blindcoder> yes I'm home
[16:48] < blindcoder> hmm... sounds good
[16:48] < esden> we have decisions to take ;-/
[16:48] < esden> ok ...
[16:48] < esden> i will call you when I go to bitz
[16:48] < blindcoder> gimme half an hour
[16:48] < esden> ....
[16:48] < blindcoder> I can't do anything here now anyway
[16:48] < esden> I have an idea
[16:48] < blindcoder> You know that I have only about an hour from now?
[16:49] < blindcoder> my parents have Silberhochzeit today and that emans I have to be at a Familymeeting by 18 o'clock
[16:49]   tcr <- shower
[16:49] < blindcoder> have fun :)
[16:50] < blindcoder> ja ne
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[17:28] < fake> hi\
[17:29] < litost> morning fake
[17:30] < owl> tach fake
[17:31] < fake> hm... erstma eine rauchen.
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[17:59] < tcr> re all
[18:19] < owl> re.
[18:19] < owl> hi tcr#
[18:19] < tcr> moin owl
[18:20] < owl> tcr: do you know a implementation / library / whatever of the V.25 AT-command-set?
[18:21] < tcr> no, but i know what the sense of life is ;P
[18:22] < owl> tcr: *g* i know it, too. i ound it. it's called: trying to develop an application for using ericsson T39m mobile phone and connecting it to a laptop using irda ;PPP
[18:24] < tcr> i'd write them an email about information.. etc
[18:27] < owl> tcr: i have the whole documentation... and as it seems i need a "layer" between t39m and computer with which i can send over irda the AT-commands using the v.25 protocol/at-command-set
[18:27] < tcr> i'll lokk what i can find ... but now i'm watchin tv
[18:28] < owl> ok. thx a lot ;)
[18:28] < owl> tcr: what's on tv? something interesting?
[18:29] < esden> re hi all
[18:29] < snyke> re esdi
[18:29] < owl> re esden, hi snyke
[18:30] < esden> ok the machine of my parents is working again
[18:30] < tcr> owl: family guy
[18:30] < owl> tcr: hm? what's that?
[18:35] < tcr> now it'll come switch
[18:36] < tcr> owl: do you have this documentation: https://www.ericsson.com/mobilityworld/developerszonedown/downloads/docs/t68/t68_at_commands_dg_ver1_external.pdf ?
[18:36] < owl> tcr: what are you watching? are you sure that you are currently watching to german tv and not to - i dunno - arabic tv or so...? i haven't ever heard about things you are watching. *cyn*
[18:36] < tcr> Pro7, heidin
[18:36] < owl> tcr: nope. about the t39m
[18:37] < owl> tcr: why "heidin" eh?
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[18:52] < tsa> tag
[18:52] < owl> tach tsa
[18:53] < tsa> hola owlita
[18:54] < tcr> owl: hmm
[18:54] < owl> tcr: sprich dich ruhig aus... also. warum?
[18:54] < tcr> do you know the `cu' programm?
[18:55] < owl> tcr: huh?
[18:55] < tcr> IIRC it's able to use those AT commands as well
[18:55] < tcr> maybe looking up the source of it will help you
[18:55] < owl> i c. hm. where can i find it?
[18:56] < owl> and what AT-command-set is it using? v.24 or v.25 or which...? or is there any difference?
[18:56] < tcr> dunno, it's an old command, used for UUCP networks
[18:56] < tcr> and what about minicom?
[18:56] < tcr> the source of that is probably easier to find
[18:57] < owl> tcr: still i don't know ti.
[18:57] < owl> s/ti/it
[18:57] < tcr> what?
[18:57] < owl> (wuah. today i can't even type in the letters)
[18:57] < owl> i dunno minicom. the source of it.
[18:57] < tcr> you don't know minicom?
[18:57] < owl> the source of minicom.
[18:58] < tcr> gnu.org? freshmeat?
[18:59] < owl> yeah... moment... downloading an iso... that will still take about 25 hours...so might i will have a look at tomorrow..
[18:59] < owl> s/tomorrow/on monday
[18:59] < owl> (omg. where's my brain gone to..? damn headache)
[19:01] < tcr> don't be that hard to yourself, hey you're just a woman
[19:01] < tcr> ;P
[19:01] < tcr> tsa: please carry on ;)
[19:01] < owl> tcr: don't bug me. you are just a man. so you have even no right to live.
[19:02] < tcr> https://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/minicom.html
[19:02] < owl> the source?
[19:02] < tcr> https://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/minicom-2.00.0.src.tar.gz
[19:03] < tcr> taking looking at it.
[19:03] < owl> thx. you are my god ;PP
[19:05] < tcr> no, i'm just a man ... haha
[19:05] < owl> *lol* yep
[19:05] < owl> you are righ. so you are nothing ;P thx. that you reminded me
[19:07] < owl> np: totenmond - ragnarok
[19:14] < tcr> 8) kewl in some area it uses the old function definition style
[19:19] < th> wie issen grad der maximalbetrag fuer auszahlbare kilometerpauschale bei dienstfahrten?
[19:19] < th> 26cent?
[19:30] < tsa> kA
[19:33] < th> oha hier steht was von 30
[19:33] < th> +2 cent pro zusaetzlichen mitfahrer
[19:33] < th> boah das is mir zu doof ich schreib doch nich auch noch die mitfahrer ins f-buch
[19:40] < aszlig> uff
[19:40] < aszlig> rocklinux deadlocks if you delete modules.dep
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[19:43] < aszlig> when trying to modprobe a module it loops saying: "modprobe: modprobe: Can't opne dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.18/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
[19:43] < aszlig> "
[19:43] < aszlig> ;)
[19:43] < aszlig> s/opne/open/
[19:45] < aszlig> after some time (and some loops of modprobe) the memory goes out...
[19:45] < tcr> does it exist at all?
[19:45] < aszlig> "Out of Memory: Killed process 1 (init)."
[19:45] < aszlig> tcr: what?
[19:45] < tcr> that file
[19:45] < aszlig> tcr: modules.dep?
[19:45] < tcr> joh
[19:46] < aszlig> tcr: only, if you have loadable modules set in kernel
[19:47] < tcr> if you want to modprove anything, i assume you have it
[19:47] < aszlig> tcr: i found that problem, because i deselected networking in kernel
[19:47] < aszlig> tcr: hehe, i don't want that ;)
[19:48] < tcr> is it a fault of modprove then?
[19:48] < tcr> arghs
[19:48] < aszlig> tcr: nope...
[19:48] < tcr> modpro__b__e
[19:48] < tcr> what then?
[19:48] < tcr> and about what are you complaining?
[19:48] < aszlig> brb, tele
[19:49] < aszlig> re
[19:49] < aszlig> tcr: thats a prob in the boot-scritp
[19:50] < aszlig> tcr: it checks for the wrong exitlevel
[19:50] < tcr> grep 'modprobe' /etc/init.d/*; echo $?
[19:50] < tcr> 1
[19:51] < aszlig> mom...
[19:51] < tcr> only /etc/conf/kernel will be ``sourced''
[19:52] < tcr> at this file doesn't contain any modprobes on default -- i'm talking about 1.5
[19:52] < tcr> owl?
[19:52] < aszlig> uh..
[19:52] < aszlig> thas a prob in kmod...
[19:52] < tcr> ?
[19:53] < aszlig> on "ifconfig" there is no error-checking at all
[19:55] < tcr> ???
[19:55] < tcr> owl !!! still there?
[19:58] < aszlig> xx ifconfig $IF $IPADDR netmask $NETMASK up
[19:59] < tcr> filename@line: ?
[20:00] < aszlig> /etc/conf/network
[20:00] < tsa> /etc/conf/network, AFAIK
[20:01] < tcr> uh
[20:01] < tcr> -rw-r-----
[20:01] < tcr> all other files in /etc/conf have -rw-rw-r--
[20:01] < tcr> *tsts*
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[20:03] < tcr> ok, got it
[20:06] < tcr> tsts owl
[20:16] < th> tcr: what's your problem with modprobe?
[20:18] < tcr> nuthin :) but aszlig is right, could be a possible bug in kmod ... am going to take a closer look after meal
[20:18] < th> i don't use kmod ;)
[20:21] < tsa> cu
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[20:33] < tcr> hm
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[20:35] < thalerim> damn!!
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[20:42] < thalerim> tsts
[20:42] < thalerim> th: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kmod.txt
[20:43] < thalerim> th: at the bottom
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[20:45] < th> tcr: i see... well does not affect me. i don't use kmod at all
[20:47] < tcr> i'm just wondering... according to aszlig ifconfig tries to set a device up, anyhow it generates a reqest_modul() call, although no module support is compiled into the kernel
[20:47] < tcr> that's why no modules.dep exist and it goes into a loop
[20:48] < th> no module support at all?
[20:48] < th> so there should be no kmod
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[20:49] < owl> re
[20:49] < owl> tcr: was war?
[20:49] < tcr> th: yes.. dunno.. didn't understand aszlig corrently then
[20:50] < tcr> owl: ich hab mir diesen verfluchten source reingezogen und du haust einfach ab
[20:50] < owl> tcr: tschuldigung. ich habe mir ein wenig dokus reingezogen... und zwar ausgedruckt. deshalb ned auf den monitor geguckt...
[20:51] < tcr> hrhr
[20:51] < tcr> also
[20:52] < tcr> es benutzt ioctl um das device zu initializieren, also setzen von baudrate, parity und anderen bits
[20:52] < owl> tcr: wie gesagt: ich werde eh erst frühestens am montag mir minicom runterladen. und: ich werde wohl erst montag in einer woche (eher dienstag) anfangen richtig mit dem ericsson-zeugs anzufangen. (wenn ich das asus habe und aus berlin zurück bin)
[20:52] < owl> ok. thx
[20:52] < tcr> dann hat es in einer structure strings die bestimmte at kommandos repräsentieren
[20:53] < tcr> "^M~ATZ^M~" z.b. für das reseten
[20:53] < owl> hm
[20:53] < owl> ok.
[20:53] < tcr> dann gibt es eine funktion mputs() die diese strings auswertet
[20:53] < tcr> z.b. ^ + einen buchstaben wird mit 31 logisch AND verknüpft
[20:54] < th> owl: btw. stty koennte interessant fuer dich sein.
[20:54] < tcr> 31 is binary 11.111
[20:54] < th> owl: zum setzen von /dev/tts/ options
[20:54] < owl> th: ok. danke.
[20:54] < tcr> ich vermute mal dass dadurch control-zeichen emuliert werden
[20:54] < tcr> wie ESC, etc
[20:55] < tcr> weil ja wenn man eine zahl (ein buchstabe ist ja eine zahl) mit 11111 AND, höchstens 11111 rauskommen kann, was 31 ist
[20:55] < tcr> also assci-zeichen 31, weiß der teufel was das ist
[20:55] < owl> ok. werde ich mir ansehen. wenn ich soweit bin...
[20:56] < tcr> dann gibt es noch bestimmte metachars für den Username bzw. Passwort und um zu signaliersieren dass eine sekunde gewartet werden soll
[20:56] < tcr> mputs() schreibt dann die ausgewerteten sachen direkt auf das device
[20:57] < tcr> das dürfte eigentlich alles sein, was dich zu interessieren hat IMHO
[20:57] < tcr> das steht in den dateien: rwconf.c, configsym.h, dial.c und sysdep1.c
[20:57] < owl> ok, dankeschoen
[20:57] < tcr> kein problem ;P
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[21:10] < d3mian> hi
[21:10] < d3mian> i need to do a find command line but i have probs to get what i want..
[21:11] < owl> hi d3mian
[21:11] < d3mian> find * -path "proc" -prune -print -path "dev" -prune -print
[21:12] < d3mian> this is supposed to print me all the fies listed excluding proc and dev paths, but.. this duplied lines in output :(
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[21:16] < d3mian> oh hi owl ! :)
[21:18] < tcr> d3mian: find / -path '/proc' -path '/dev' -prune -o -print
[21:20] < d3mian> thanx tcr , ur great!
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[21:20] < thalerim> d3mian: sorry
[21:20] < thalerim> wait up
[21:21] < d3mian> doesnt work yet
[21:21] < d3mian> :(
[21:22] < thalerim> d3mian: find / \( -path '/proc' -o -path '/dev' \) -prune -o -print
[21:22] < thalerim> that works
[21:22] < thalerim> to see easier add a -maxdepth 1
[21:23] < d3mian> cool !, didnt know one could use parentheses
[21:24] < d3mian> yeah, thanx a lot :)
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[21:29] < holyolli> re
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[21:33] < holyolli> esden?
[21:36] -!- theDOC [BNC14@pD9E090BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
[21:36] < theDOC> someone there?
[21:36] < holyolli> yes..
[21:37] < theDOC> cool, maybe u can help me
[21:37] < holyolli> what's up?
[21:37] < holyolli> theDOC: du kannst bei bedarf aber auch deutsch schreiben... ;)
[21:37] < theDOC> besser :D
[21:38] < theDOC> hab gestern rock 1.5 von nem iso installiert, alles war toll, mit chroot nochmal eingelogged um lilo zu installieren, aber mein /dev verz. war leer
[21:38] < theDOC> warum?
[21:39] < holyolli> vieleicht weil du es nicht gemountet hast? rocklinux benutzt das devfs - also ein eigenes dateisystem fuer /dev
[21:40] < holyolli> du kannst es mit 'mount -t devfs none /dev' mounten - es sollte aber auch in der fstab drinstehen
[21:41] < theDOC> naja, das war direkt nach install, hatte noch nicht neu gebootet
[21:41] < theDOC> ging ja auch nich, kein lilo
[21:41] < tcr> /src/dev
[21:41] < tcr> nicht /dev
[21:42] < holyolli> tcr: stimmt..ich ging von der chroot aus...
[21:42] < theDOC> also wenn ich mich vorher mit chroot einlogge, dann /dev ja?
[21:42] < tcr> joh
[21:42] < theDOC> gut
[21:43] < holyolli> jepp
[21:43] < tcr> theDOC: hm
[21:43] < tcr> eigentlich sollte man procfs und devfs vor der installation nach /sr mounten
[21:43] < tcr> /src
[21:43] < tcr> weil wenn man nach der installation die configscripts ausführt, sind die notwendig (zumindestens proc)
[21:44] < theDOC> also wenn ich von der cd boote, dann gibts ja auch /dev, aber als alles fertig war, und ich mich eingelogged hab, wars weg
[21:45] < theDOC> die scripte und alles haben ja auch funktioniert
[21:47] < tcr> okay dann
[21:47] < theDOC> naja, muss ich wohl noch viel lernen =)
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[21:48] < Mike1> moin
[21:48] < holyolli> hola Mike1
[21:48] < Mike1> Hola CPT. holyolli
[21:49] < tcr> moin Mike1
[21:49] < owl> re
[21:49] < holyolli> como eastas, dr. inf. Mike1? ;)
[21:49] < tcr> jacky chan rules
[21:49] < owl> hi holyolli, Mike1
[21:49] < holyolli> hi owl
[21:49] < Mike1> holyolli: :)
[21:49] < Mike1> owlita como estas mi amor?
[21:50] < Mike1> *g
[21:50] < holyolli> *lol*
[21:50] < owl> MIKE!!!
[21:50]   Mike1 getting a flashback
[21:50]   holyolli just hugs owl
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[21:50] < owl> HOLLYOLLI!
[21:50] < owl> ./kill hugging peoply
[21:50] < irda> owly hi :)
[21:50] < owl> hi
[21:50] < irda> last n8 was amazing
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[21:51] < holyolli> *fg*
[21:51] < owl> pah
[21:51] < owl> holyolli: you should better ignore Mike1
[21:52] < Mike1> owl: why? i thought we were not going to keep it secret anymore
[21:52] < holyolli> owl: why?
[21:52] < holyolli> ;)
[21:52] < owl> holyolli: *gggg* because comments like the written above...
[21:53] < theDOC> bye, n thx for help!
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[21:54] < Mike1> holyolli: btw dr. inf. ? whats that?
[21:54] < holyolli> its something like "doctor of computer science"... ;)
[21:55] < tcr> doctore informatica
[21:55] < tcr> ;P
[21:55] < holyolli> (computer science == informatik)
[21:55] < holyolli> tcr: hehe
[21:55] < Mike1> :P
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[21:56] < d3mian> re
[21:56] < holyolli> hi d3mian
[21:56] < Mike1> holyolli: how many flight hours do you have so far?
[21:57] < Mike1> moin d3mian
[21:57] < d3mian> cya later.. some days
[21:57]   owl leaves you now.
[21:57] < owl> gn8. cu.
[21:57] < Mike1> owly n8
[21:57] < holyolli> cu owl
[21:57] < holyolli> Mike1: at the moment only those private hours with gliders and ultralight planes....
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[21:57] < holyolli> (but round about 400h theory)
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[21:58] < Mike1> holyolli: hehe nice
[21:58] < Mike1> 400 IF hours?
[21:58] < thalerim> damn, i apologizy for my connection problems
[21:58] < thalerim> s,y,e,1
[21:58] < holyolli> Mike1: i'll have my practical lessons from 02/2003 on
[21:58] < Mike1> thalerim: no problem but i think tcr is starting be pissed off
[21:58] < holyolli> Mike1: IF?
[21:58] < Mike1> *g
[21:59] < Mike1> Instruments Flight
[21:59] < holyolli> ah
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[21:59] < holyolli> well, we have theory of VFR and IFR in parallel
[21:59] < Mike1> nice
[21:59] < holyolli> and also some of the ATPL stuff
[22:00] < holyolli> but the last not that much so far
[22:00] < Mike1> neat
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[22:37] < chrisbb> ls
[22:37] < chrisbb> ops, sorry
[22:37] < holyolli> bin   dev  home  lost+found  nfs_home  proc  sbin  usr  vol
[22:37] < holyolli> boot  etc  lib   mnt         opt       root  tmp   var
[22:37] < holyolli> ;)
[22:37] < chrisbb> :)
[22:38] < chrisbb> i have a question about interaction between pcmcia-cs and the default kernel has anybody a hint
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[22:38] < chrisbb> and someknowledge about that topic
[22:40] < holyolli> chrisbb: do you mean detailled stuff between those drivers?
[22:43] < chrisbb> no not so much in detail, the thing i wonder about is that the pcmcia-cs of rock says that i should compile the pcmcia-cs from source and this source says that it would compile but would omit the drivers
[22:44] < holyolli> i'm not sure, but the drivers have to be compiled in the kernel, havent they?
[22:45] < holyolli> but i don't know much about pcmcia-cs
[22:45] < chrisbb> no, the pcmcia drivers are modules that are loaded if the card is inserted
[22:46] < chrisbb> but rock has kernel built-it pcmcia support for the bus, but few drivers
[22:48] < tcr> the first thing you should do is always to compile you own kermel
[22:48] < tcr> +r
[22:48] < tcr> kermel *lol* ;P
[22:49] < holyolli> *g*
[22:49] < chrisbb> tcr: that was the first thing i did, i said i used the default kernel to simplify things
[22:50]   holyolli trying a new alpha kernel....bbl
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[22:51] < chrisbb> but don't mind! i will erase pcmcia support from the kernel and use the userland tools and modules, also if that is not the wanted solution but the quickest
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