-!- Irrsi Log opened Wed Nov 06 00:00:58 2002
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[00:35] Mike1 is having fun :)
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[00:39] < th> is --bind a kernel-space feature?
[00:40] < _NULL> hi th
[00:40] < th> my userspace-tool "mount" on an ancient system (mount-2.10m) does not support --bind
[00:40] < th> huhu _NULL
[00:40] < spender> yes, it has a special implementation in fs/namespace.c
[00:40] < th> does 2.2.22 support that?
[00:41] < spender> i think it's new in 2.4
[00:41] < th> damnit
[00:41] < Mike1> th 2.2.x does not support it sorry
[00:41] < th> any way of doing something like that with 2.2 kernel?
[00:42] < th> hmm
[00:46] < th> hmmm nfs from localhost...
[00:46] < th> is it possible to reexport such?
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[01:04] < c4y0> hi!!!
[01:04] < aszlig> hullo
[01:05] < Mike1> hi c4y0
[01:05] < Mike1> aszlig: what are you doing?
[01:05] < aszlig> Mike1: rockstrap
[01:05] < Mike1> when am i going to see ur work?
[01:05] < Mike1> :)
[01:06] < aszlig> tomorrow (i hope i can resist against sleep :)
[01:06] < Mike1> aszlig: sleep is just phisicological thing there is nothing to resist against its all in ur mind
[01:06] < Mike1> :)
[01:07] < aszlig> Mike1: ey! don't tell me, HUMAN!
[01:08] < aszlig> :)
[01:08] < Mike1> aszlig: sorry Lord aszlig :)
[01:08] < aszlig> *gg*
[01:08] < Mike1> so far what have you done with asztrap ? *g*
[01:09] _NULL is now playing: ulf tode - revolution
[01:09] < aszlig> Mike1: ey!
[01:09] < aszlig> Mike1: either asstrap or rockstrap!
[01:09] < Mike1> aszlig: jk :P
[01:09] < aszlig> hmm...
[01:09] < aszlig> rock-trap
[01:10] < aszlig> have to complete the modules-sys...
[01:10] < Mike1> :)
[01:10] < aszlig> and have go throgh all scripts of rl
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[02:16] < _NULL> gn8. cu
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[03:20] < Xgates> hey ppl
[03:21] < Mike1> hi Xgates
[03:21] < Xgates> do this iso rock-intel-base-1.4.0.iso get you up and going to check out Rock ?
[03:21] < Xgates> I dont want to build it from src just yet
[03:22] < Mike1> go to https://iso.rocklinux.de for latest isos 1.4.0 was released almost 2 years ago
[03:23] < Xgates> hehe
[03:23] < Mike1> ;)
[03:24] < Xgates> yeah I saw that before
[03:25] < Xgates> Mike1: what sort of pkg manager is Rock?
[03:25] < Xgates> I dont see anything on it
[03:25] < Xgates> still looking
[03:28] < Xgates> I mean is this like Slack where you go to the site and download the pkgs you want ?
[03:28] < Xgates> Rock isn't some online updating distro is it aka apt-get gentoo ports ?
[03:29] < Xgates> all I see is this https://www.rocklinux.org/packages/
[03:31] < th> speaking of 1.4.0 / 1.5.x rock's packages consist of base and extensions packages
[03:31] < th> you get whole base as binary on iso
[03:32] < th> and extension package is a file containing src-url + build-instructions
[03:32] < th> you can update these files easily
[03:35] < Xgates> ok THX guys I'll grab an iso later
[03:35] < Xgates> c ya
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[04:31] < d3mian__> re
[04:32] < d3mian__> th: a question. da u know a way to solve aumix debug message when using gpm ?
[04:32] < Mike1> d3mian__: go to bed
[04:32] < Mike1> :P
[04:32] < Mike1> that was satg
[04:32] < d3mian__> umm.
[04:32] < Mike1> wie gehts?
[04:32] < d3mian__> my lovah.. what is he doing with u ? :-/
[04:33] < d3mian__> oh. i have a little tail..
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[04:33] < d3mian> that's better now :)
[04:33] < Mike1> gut
[04:33] < Mike1> que haces boludo?
[04:33] < d3mian> algunas extensiones
[04:33] < Mike1> satg te esta esperando para una noche de pasion
[04:33] < Mike1> :P
[04:34] < Mike1> para rock o para el otro proyecto?
[04:34] < d3mian> el otro obviamente
[04:34] < d3mian> ya tengo mas de 40 paketes pa mi solito :))
[04:35] < d3mian> [ doha ] ~/packages/demian > ls -l | wc -l
[04:35] < d3mian> 50
[04:35] < d3mian> [ doha ] ~/packages/demian >
[04:35] < d3mian> 50 ;-)
[04:36] < Mike1> ah esta bien
[04:37] < d3mian> tengo probs building vim
[04:37] < Mike1> yo soy el maintainer de vim
[04:37] < Mike1> en rock
[04:37] < Mike1> tienes problemas en rock?
[04:37] < d3mian> no..
[04:37] < d3mian> :p
[04:37] < d3mian> en la otra
[04:38] < d3mian> pero.. me extrana
[04:38] < d3mian> no localiza los includes de /usr/nclude
[04:38] < d3mian> el script de configure usa /usr/local/include
[04:38] < d3mian> me extrana.. es vim61
[04:38] < d3mian> te dare mi extension
[04:38] < Mike1> pon las lines tu
[04:38] < Mike1> un para de cp son tus amigos
[04:38] < Mike1> :)
[04:38] < Mike1> aunque noe s lo mejor
[04:39] < d3mian> un para de cp son tus amigos -> no entendi
[04:39] < Mike1> yo lo tenia asi pero ahora uso los defaults de vim
[04:39] < Mike1> con dos lineas con cp podes arreglar el problem
[04:39] < d3mian> slackware uses glibc2.3.1 :(
[04:39] < Mike1> igual no entiendo como te revienta vim es muy simple
[04:39] < d3mian> si a mi me extrana
[04:39] < d3mian> save
[04:40] < Mike1> d3mian: lo mas apropiado es que si haces un build para la otra distro deberias de tener como sistema base la otra distro tambien
[04:40] < Mike1> cuando deje ese proyecto usaba slack par aprobar y nunca tuve problemas
[04:56] < Mike1> n8
[04:56] < d3mian> cya
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[05:22] < d3mian> paperclip
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[05:34] < d3mian> i need to remove the whole content of a cvs repository i have.. how can i? steps.. :p
[05:35] < d3mian> i need to clean my whole repos
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[05:40] < d3mian> what's the cvs command line to get clifford's snapshots ?
[05:40] < d3mian> 1.7
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[09:56] < esden> morning
[10:07] < blindcod1r> moin
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[10:10] < blindcoder> gone
[10:32] < aszlig> moin esden
[10:50] < esden> yess !!!
[10:50] < esden> bchat geeeht !!!
[10:50] < esden> weee
[10:50] < esden> hi blindcoder
[10:50] < esden> hi asz
[10:50] < esden> ich meine aszlig
[10:50] < esden> woot woot
[10:50] < esden> weeee !!!
[10:51] < esden> ich kann mit dem client vom benji chatten !!!
[10:51] < esden> weee
[10:52] < esden> blindcoder: are you here ?
[10:52] < esden> blindcoder: PING
[10:53] < aszlig> re
[10:53] < aszlig> esden: harm!?
[10:54] < esden> hi aszlig ... *rumjump*
[10:54] < esden> wo ist der blindcoder die troete !
[10:54] < aszlig> esden: *gg*
[10:54] < esden> tut er arbeiten oder was ?
[10:54] < aszlig> esden: scheinwahrlich
[10:55] < esden> der soll nicht arbeiten ... der soll herkommen !
[10:55] < aszlig> esden: bist du im bitz?
[10:55] < esden> noe in der uni
[10:55] < esden> aber spaeter bin ich im bitz
[10:55] < aszlig> esden: echt!?
[10:55] < esden> ja ...
[10:55] < aszlig> esden: kewl, bis wann?
[10:55] < esden> weiss ich nicht
[10:56] < aszlig> esden: laenger als ra621
[10:56] < esden> boa bin ich heute geil ausgeschlafen ...
[10:56] < esden> aszlig: weiss ich nicht ...
[10:56] < aszlig> esden: sag den pfeifen mal, dassich linux-mainter machen will...
[10:56] < esden> o_O ?
[10:56] < aszlig> esden: s/mainter/maintainer/
[10:57] < esden> von welchem linux denn ?
[10:57] < aszlig> esden: ja, von denen im schulungsraum zum beilstift..
[10:57] < aszlig> esden: weilse sich immer beschweren, weilse "dafuer keinen ham"
[10:58] < aszlig> esden: hmm, naja stimmt ja, /me macht ja immer alles kaputt :/
[10:58] < esden> ja aszlig aber im schulungsraum muss es suse sein ... nur so zu info
[10:58] < aszlig> esden: nicht umbedingt...
[10:58] < esden> aha ?
[10:58] < blindcoder> what's up?
[10:58] < esden> das ist mir neu
[10:58] < esden> ahh blindcoder !!!
[10:58] < aszlig> esden: hehe
[10:58] < esden> *knuddel*
[10:59] < aszlig> esden: in uml geht auch x :P
[10:59] < blindcoder> urks
[10:59] < aszlig> esden: habich grad am laufen
[10:59] < esden> blindcoder: kannst du mal hier dier nen account holen ? : https://bchat-dev.bingo-ev.de/bWF2-fake/signup.jsp
[10:59] < blindcoder> *seufz* mom
[11:00] < esden> und dann auf dem apollo dich mit : /home/bchat/java_bchat einloggen ?
[11:00] < aszlig> esden: laeuft sogar bei dem bloeden p200 hier wunderbar..
[11:00] < blindcoder> wie? kein suxe im bitz? wie willstn des machen?
[11:00] < aszlig> blindcoder: ganz einfach..
[11:00] < aszlig> blindcoder: muss susi nur im uml installieren..
[11:00] < esden> blindcoder: ich wuerde es auch sehr gerne sehen ...
[11:00] < aszlig> blindcoder: "nur"
[11:00] < esden> aszlig: aha ...
[11:01] < aszlig> blindcoder: es gibt halt n paar probs...
[11:01] < aszlig> warum gibt es wohl kein image fuer susi...
[11:01] < esden> ja deshalb muss suse drauf sein
[11:01] < esden> aber
[11:01] < aszlig> aber mit n bissl gefiesel gehts schon
[11:01] < esden> aszlig: folgendes ... wenn du zwei clones machst von rock und suse ... dann sollte es auch passen
[11:02] < aszlig> esden: jo..
[11:02] < aszlig> esden: oder ueber nfs_root
[11:02] < blindcoder> esden: chatten geht net :P
[11:02] < aszlig> esden: hmm..
[11:02] < esden> aszlig: rede halt mit den leuten und denke an das was ich dir gesagt habe ... NICHT uebertreiben ... sonnst gehen die nicht drauf ein
[11:02] < aszlig> esden: ja, k...
[11:03] < esden> blindcoder: womit versuchst du gerade zu chatten ?
[11:03] < blindcoder> mozilla
[11:03] < aszlig> esden: hehe...
[11:03] < esden> nee ...
[11:03] < esden> blindcoder: nimm /home/bchat/java_bchat
[11:03] < esden> auf dem apollo
[11:03] < aszlig> esden: telnet hostname <bchatportwhichidonotrememberanymore>
[11:04] < blindcoder> spaeter, muss jetzt n bisschen was machen
[11:04] < esden> und da benutze den benutzernamen und passwort das du zugeschickt bekommen hast
[11:04] < esden> ja ist doch nur aufrufen ...
[11:04] < esden> hmm ... ok
[11:04] < esden> wenn du zu tun hast
[11:04] < blindcoder> nein, ist ssh zurueck zum apollo ==> lahm ==> nervig
[11:05] < aszlig> telnet is immer noch der lustigste und interessanteste client
[11:05] < esden> hmm ... ok ...
[11:05] < blindcoder> schreibs mir schnell privat damit ichs mir merk :)
[11:05] < blindcoder> bis spaeter
[11:05] < esden> ? : crash pts/0 192.35.17.20 10:58 1.00s 0.37s 0.35s ssh blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net
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[11:05] < esden> ja mache ich
[11:07] < aszlig> hmm... dann kannich ja dann gleich rockstrap weitermachen :)
[11:07] < aszlig> is dann ganz gut dassde da bist..
[11:09] < aszlig> esden: was haeltste davon, wennich mein alphalein ins bitz stelle?
[11:09] < esden> hmm ...
[11:10] < aszlig> der kann dann des zeugs mit nfs_root machen..
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[11:10] < aszlig> wb rxr
[11:10] < aszlig> hmm..
[11:11] < esden> also ... ich persoenlich wuerde es perfekt finden ... (me wuerde die kiste dann gleich mit rock fuettern und wuerde meine standard workstation sein ;-) ) aber ... ich glaube da werden paar bingo spongos wie der marino (erster vorstand) und juergen (ein ziemlicher stresser) und vielleicht paar andere was dagegen haben ...
[11:11] < esden> warum ?
[11:11] < aszlig> *createnewprojectfrorockstrap*
[11:11] < aszlig> esden: :(
[11:11] < aszlig> esden: ey! da laeuft momentan tru64
[11:12] < esden> weil sie meinen das das zu viel platz braucht ... und weil es wieder ne kiste ist ... und weil ... weil sie einfach spassverdaerber sind >_<
[11:12] < aszlig> esden: wieso sollen die was dagegen haben?
[11:12] < aszlig> esden: hmm... stimmt.. die kiste is scho gross..
[11:12] < aszlig> esden: aber ich muss die plattentuerme ja net mitnehmen
[11:12] < esden> aber ich koennte mal fragen ... weil ich faende es ziemlich geil als ne workstation im vereinsraum ;-)
[11:13] < aszlig> hehe...
[11:13] < aszlig> des dingens kannma dann mit mannis sgi vergleichen *gg*
[11:13] < esden> aber ich wuerde trotzdem tru64 von der kiste backupen und rock draufspielen :D
[11:14] < aszlig> esden: nix da..
[11:14] < aszlig> esden: *gg*
[11:14] < aszlig> esden: obwohl..
[11:14] < esden> dann passe auf das ich die kiste nicht in die haende bekomme ... weil du wirst mich nicht davor stoppen koennen ;-)
[11:14] < aszlig> esden: des tru64 wolltich eh selber schon killen..
[11:14] < esden> naja ... nachdem ich mir tru angeschaut habe ;-)
[11:14] < aszlig> esden: dann darfste die platten ausbauen
[11:15] < aszlig> esden: soweit kommste net..
[11:15] < aszlig> esden: :>
[11:15] < aszlig> esden: wieder einbauen wird dann n prob..
[11:15] < esden> argh ... der fake koennte endlich zurueck aus der berufsschule sein
[11:15] < aszlig> esden: hab des ganze nur mit tru64 hingekriegt...
[11:15] < aszlig> esden: _jetzt_ schon!?
[11:16] < esden> JA !
[11:16] < aszlig> esden: der hat erst um 3 oder 4 aus..
[11:17] < esden> ach mennoo ...
[11:18] < aszlig> wenner um 3 aushat, dann bring ich ihn um!
[11:18] < esden> lol
[11:18] < aszlig> dann hat der sack naemlich immer eine stunde frueher aus, als wir..
[11:19] < esden> aszlig: wo bist du eigentlich ? arbeit ?
[11:19] < aszlig> esden: ja..
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[11:19] < aszlig> esden: bstle grade am mul rum..
[11:19] < esden> tztztz
[11:19] < aszlig> esden: s/mul/uml/
[11:19] < esden> und ich kriege hunger ...
[11:19] < aszlig> esden: kein problem, den habich schon..
[11:29] < esden> hmm ok ... /quit und /exit gehen ... /leave faehlt noch ...
[11:36] < esden> ok /me geht jetzt auch
[11:36] < esden> soo ... /link machma noch
[11:36] < esden> danach muss ich mir noch ueberlegen wie ich /msg mache ...
[11:37] < esden> aber da habe ich auch ne idee
[11:41] < esden> ok /link geht jetzt auch
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[12:05] < esden> ok die userliste geht jetzt auch ;-)(
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[12:07] < blindcoder> hehe
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[12:07] < blindcoder> bin nur kurv da
[12:07] < esden> hmm ... ok ...
[12:08] < esden> sei willkommen ;-)
[12:08] < blindcoder> esden: wie um alles in der welt kann ROCK 1.7 mit optimisations compilen?
[12:08] < esden> ??
[12:08] < blindcoder> mit glibc 231 geht net weil ich 225 auf meinem system fuehre
[12:09] < esden> ohh man die kochen da draussen und ich habe so nen derben hunger >_<
[12:09] < blindcoder> mit glibc 225 krieg ich "invalid value for -march"
[12:09] < esden> o_O
[12:09] < esden> da scheint was kaputt zu sein ...
[12:09] < blindcoder> egal ob pentium4 oder k6-2
[12:10] < esden> tja scheint mir das da was rumspinnt ... in rock ... @ blindcoder
[12:11] < blindcoder> you don't say... ich sag ihm mal dass das ganze ein cross-compile is und probiors nochmal mit 231
[12:11] < blindcoder> das ging zumindest bei sparc64
[12:11] < blindcoder> okay bin wieder wech
[12:11] < esden> ok cu
[12:12] < esden> blindcoder: bist nur hergekommen um dampf abzulassen ... gell ? (/me schaut blindcoder durch ;-) )
[12:15] < esden> soo ...
[12:15] esden lunch
[12:15] esden be back
[12:28] < esden> re hi all
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[13:38] < esden> ok ... I think I drive back to IN now
[13:38] < esden> cu all
[13:56] < aszlig> c'ya esdi ;)
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[14:56] < slack__> hello again
[14:56] < slack__> i've got problem with rocklinux again :(
[14:56] < slack__> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
[14:56] < slack__> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel
[14:56] < slack__> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
[14:56] < slack__> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel
[15:00] < blindcoder> hi slack__
[15:00] < slack__> blindcoder: hello
[15:00] < slack__> <<fooblah ;)
[15:00] < blindcoder> deutsch oder english?
[15:00] < slack__> deutsch waere mir lieber
[15:00] < slack__> ;)
[15:00] < blindcoder> okay
[15:00] < blindcoder> schaut aus als haettest du kein devfs in deinem kernel
[15:01] < slack__> es is aber drinnen
[15:01] < slack__> hab extra davor n neuen kernel gebaut
[15:01] < blindcoder> hmm
[15:01] < blindcoder> kannst du es von hamd mounten?
[15:02] < slack__> hmm...
[15:02] < slack__> sek tele
[15:02] < blindcoder> jo
[15:03] < slack__> hmm...
[15:04] < slack__> ne
[15:04] < blindcoder> hmm... dann isses nicht in deinem laufenden kernel
[15:04] < slack__> unter welcher karte ist des? file systems?
[15:04] < slack__> hab grad make xconfig laufen
[15:05] < blindcoder> ja, filesystems
[15:05] < blindcoder> [*] /dev file system support
[15:05] < slack__> und heist: /dev file systems support (EXPERIMENTAL)
[15:05] < slack__> jo
[15:05] < slack__> hmm...
[15:05] < blindcoder> genau
[15:06] < slack__> es is aber an...?!
[15:06] < slack__> ich bau mal n neuen kernel..
[15:06] < blindcoder> probiers einfach nochmal
[15:06] < SMP> cat /proc/filesystems
[15:07] < blindcoder> oder hast du mehrere auswahlmoeglichkeiten beim booten und die falsche erwischt?
[15:07] < blindcoder> hi SMP
[15:07] < slack__> in proc/filesystems steht auch nix...
[15:08] < slack__> ich hohl mir einfach nen neuen source und bau ihn neu
[15:08] < slack__> und versuchs nochmal
[15:08] < blindcoder> mhm
[15:08] < blindcoder> und des andere: "chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory"
[15:09] < slack__> hmm...
[15:09] < blindcoder> schaut aus als haette entweder bash nicht gebaut oder der symlink /bin/sh -> /bin/bash is nicht da
[15:10] < slack__> sh-2.05a#
[15:10] < SMP> das laesst sich ja leicht ueberpruefen...
[15:10] < slack__> es is da
[15:10] < slack__> hab grad /bin/sh gemacht
[15:10] < SMP> ehem
[15:10] < SMP> und das bin/sh dort wohin du chrooten wolltest?
[15:12] < slack__> hmm...
[15:13] < slack__> ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash ?
[15:13] < blindcoder> also irgendwo in der art von ../rock-1.5/build/root/bin
[15:13] < blindcoder> irgendwo da sollte bash und sh sein
[15:13] < SMP> was versuchst du eigentlich generell zu tun?
[15:14] < slack__> SMP: rocklinux zu builden
[15:14] < slack__> bash is nich dabei - hab mich vorhin vertippt
[15:14] < rolla> re
[15:14] < blindcoder> re rolla
[15:15] < SMP> zu welchem Zeitpunkt dabei tritt dieser Fehler auf?
[15:15] < slack__> aehm *gruebel*
[15:15] < slack__> glaub nach dem packet flex..
[15:15] < slack__> also bei ./scripst/Build-Target - so richtung flex... aber weis nich ganz genau
[15:16] < slack__> hab da nich wirklich aufgepasst
[15:16] < SMP> aha. 1.7
[15:16] < blindcoder> ls -l ..../rock-1.5/build/root/var/adm/logs/*err
[15:17] < blindcoder> ach 1.7...
[15:17] < SMP> sorge dafuer dass du einen devfs Kernel hast und dann viel Spass
[15:17] blindcoder is in letzter Zeit irgendwie nich auf der hoehe
[15:17] < slack__> hmm... k
[15:18] < slack__> bin wieder weg - falls es nich klappt stoere ich wieder ;)
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[15:20] blindcoder geht auch mal wieder
[15:30] < esden> re hi all
[15:30] < esden> blindcoder: r u here ?
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[15:36] < Mike1> moin
[15:37] < rolla> Mike
[15:37] < Mike1> hi Joel
[15:45] < esden> hi Mike1
[15:45] < esden> hi rolla
[15:47] < aszlig> Mike1: hello
[15:47] < Mike1> hi esden , aszlig
[15:47] < snyke> hi aszlig!
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[15:52] < Mike1> hi rxr
[15:54] < aszlig> hoi snyke
[16:03] Mike1 rebooting brb
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[16:06] < Mike1> re
[16:06] < aszlig> wb mike
[16:09] < Mike1> :)
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[16:29] < blindcoder> esden: PONG
[16:29] < blindcoder> :)
[16:32] < snyke> mh
[16:33] < blindcoder> hi snyke
[16:42] < aszlig> re
[16:42] < blindcoder> tach
[16:43] < aszlig> blindcoder: era you to bitz today?
[16:43] < aszlig> s/era/are/
[16:44] < blindcoder> irgendwann um 19 hur zum AK-T
[16:44] < aszlig> blindcoder: kewl :)
[16:44] < blindcoder> wenn nix gscheits los is geh ich wieda
[16:44] < aszlig> blindcoder: ey!
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[16:45] < aszlig> esden kommt beilstiftsweise auch
[16:45] < aszlig> wb Mike1
[16:45] < Mike1> re
[16:45] < blindcoder> aszlig: und?
[16:45] < blindcoder> das hindert mich doch net am gehen
[16:45] < aszlig> Mike1: german telco closed my connection
[16:45] < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm..
[16:46] < Mike1> aszlig: ?
[16:46] blindcoder now goinc home
[16:47] < esden> hi all
[16:47] < esden> puhh
[16:47] < Mike1> hi esdy
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[17:42] < Mike1> 0_o
[17:43] < Mike1> :)
[17:46] < zer0_o> o_0
[17:46] < zer0_o> ;D
[17:46] < Mike1> how are you ?
[17:46] < zer0_o> fine thanks
[17:47] < zer0_o> and you?
[17:47] < Mike1> i am great thanks :)
[17:47] < zer0_o> but .. uhm.. i have to pay some bills .. =|
[17:47] < zer0_o> that's not gona make me happy =P
[17:48] < Mike1> ah well :)
[17:48] < Mike1> run a fresh rock build, that will help
[17:49] < zer0_o> yeah =)
[17:49] < zer0_o> i think so too
[17:50] < zer0_o> there's so much to learn
[17:50] < Mike1> there's where the fun begins
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[17:55] < zer0_o> yeah... but at the moment i learn php c++ and sql together , theres not much time left for else =|
[17:57] < Mike1> mm... what do you do between 02:00 and 06:00 ?
[18:00] < zer0_o> working ;) lol
[18:00] < Mike1> i see
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[18:02] < zer0_o> why do you mean ?
[18:04] < Mike1> when do you sleep?
[18:04] rolla hates his company
[18:04] < Mike1> sleep is just a phisicological thing so you can easily invest that time in something usefull such as learning :)
[18:05] < zer0_o> lol
[18:05] < zer0_o> i can't learn when i almost fall asleep..
[18:07] < Mike1> :P
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[18:34] < owl> seid gegruesst
[18:34] < aszlig> hullo
[18:34] < owl> aszlig: hi. das nenne ich mal reaktion ;P
[18:39] < th> anyone ext3 experience on 2.2.22?
[18:40] < Mike1> th nope, but why dont you just go for 2.4.19?
[18:40] < th> not sure what the userland thinks of 2.4 on this old system
[18:40] < Mike1> i have seen you looking for several 2.4 stuff to work on 2.2.22
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[18:41] < armijn> re
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[18:41] < armijn> hmmm, owl here?
[18:41] < armijn> yep!
[18:41] armijn hugs owl
[18:41] < th> Mike1: very true. but this server is almost mission critical ;-) i'm just a bit afraid of switching from 2.2 to 2.4
[18:41] < Mike1> hi armijn
[18:41] < armijn> blah
[18:41] < owl> hi armijn. without hug
[18:42] < owl> hi th
[18:42] < th> hi owl
[18:42] < armijn> that was a long meeting...
[18:42] < armijn> argh.
[18:42] < armijn> 5 hours...
[18:42] < Mike1> th: difine mission critical
[18:42] < Mike1> WOW 5 hours meeting wtf was that??
[18:43] < th> Mike1: quite expensive when not working perfectly between 0600 and 2000
[18:43] < armijn> mike1: the author of Vim came by to discuss his new project...we're working on similar things, so...
[18:43] < th> bram?
[18:43] < Mike1> armijn: NICE
[18:43] < Mike1> wanna tell us about it? *g*
[18:44] < Mike1> th: mmm... can you have a 3 - 8 minutes downtime?
[18:44] < armijn> mike1: www.a-a-p.org
[18:45] < th> Mike1: i can have downtimes between 2000h and 0600h
[18:45] < th> Mike1: should be no problem to compile a new kernel and test it
[18:45] < Mike1> so do it
[18:45] < armijn> yeah! go for it girl!
[18:46] < th> Mike1: but i can't be really sure if all works...
[18:46] < Mike1> well if it doesnt work you just go back to the working image and remove the lilo.conf lines
[18:46] < Mike1> big deal
[18:46] < th> Mike1: i'm afraid only the customer can tell me if it works
[18:46] < th> ;>
[18:47] < Mike1> you will never be sure if it'll work till you try it
[18:47] < th> that's true
[18:47] < Mike1> is there a way to get the costummer to test it between 2000 and 0600?
[18:47] < armijn> I'm completely wasted :)
[18:47] < armijn> ah well...
[18:47] < Mike1> armijn: get a beer :)
[18:48] < th> Mike1: should be.
[18:48] < armijn> mike1: well, in about 30 minutes I've got another meeting...all the authors of the dutch magazine I write for are invited for a pub night ;-)
[18:48] < armijn> spanish things, so hopefully lots of wine..
[18:48] < armijn> and I don't have to pay a thing :))
[18:49] < Mike1> th: so compile 2.4.19 and edit lilo.conf get everything ready then reboot and ask the guys for testing i dont think it will take too long will it?
[18:49] < Mike1> armijn: COOL
[18:49] < th> Mike1: no. it's not really a problem it's just that i don't want to test the system too much
[18:50] Mike1 realizes he should begging writing for magazines ...
[18:50] < th> aehm
[18:50] < th> Mike1: s,test,touch,
[18:50] < th> ok i should start booting myself with some mate...
[18:50] < armijn> mike1: first chilling here with some music...metal!
[18:51] < th> it's almost 7PM and i haven't reached my preferred runlevel yet...
[18:51] < Mike1> th: hehe well my friend you have 2 options, you can stick with 2.2.22 and keep asking us stuff about getting 2.4 features to work on 2.2 and pissbly not get answers or you can just touch the machine for a few hours and get rid of the sh*t
[18:52] < Mike1> armijn: sounds like a very interesting meeting i can tell
[18:52] < Mike1> th: forget about temporary solutions, do the right thing :)
[18:54] < armijn> mike1: it will be...
[18:54] < armijn> ok, it's beer/wine time...
[18:54] < Mike1> armijn: so enjoy it
[18:54] < armijn> hmm, I do sound like an alcoholic...
[18:54] < armijn> ah well :)
[18:54] armijn -> pub
[18:54] < Mike1> armijn: i would be afraid if you didnt
[18:54] < armijn> cu
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[19:16] < tcr> re all
[19:24] < owl> hi tcr
[19:24] < tcr> moinsen
[19:25] < owl> is there a possibility to "clean" the MBR completely? (cuz of a previous winXP which was installed on this acer... and now the acer is not able to boot from HD after installing lilo...)
[19:25] < tcr> jo
[19:26] < owl> how?
[19:26] < owl> please tell me, then you rescue me from death :)
[19:28] < tcr> sorry, quite busy
[19:28] < tcr> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<path>/<to>/<disk> bs=512 count=1
[19:29] < owl> ok. thx
[19:30] < tcr> but well
[19:31] < owl> hard disk boot sector invalid --> :-//
[19:31] < tcr> what path did you use
[19:31] < owl> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[19:32] < tcr> hum
[19:32] < owl> i guess this notebook is strange in some ways
[19:33] < tcr> why don't you just overwrite it?
[19:33] < owl> i tried it. but then i got "Int 0x13 function 8 and fucktion 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80"
[19:34] < owl> hm... fdisk shows me that it successfully was deleted...
[19:34] < owl> ok. another try of installing rock...
[19:35] < owl> strange. now the count of cylinders is also different ...
[19:37] < tcr> hm?
[19:38] < owl> when i installed rock the first time, the "last cylinder" was something over 2800 now it's 2432
[19:39] < tcr> *g*
[19:39] < owl> heh, don't laugh. it's not funny...
[19:39] < tcr> you format the disk completely
[19:40] < tcr> should
[19:40] < owl> how do you mean? i'm using fdisk and deleting all partitions etc. do you mean that as "completely"?
[19:41] < Mike1> windows fdisk will not clean up mbr
[19:42] < owl> Mike1: i deleted win... and does the fscking XP also is able to clean up it...?
[19:42] < tcr> didn't you run a format c:\ ?
[19:42] < Mike1> owl you should have run lilo -U beofre removing linux it would have been the easiest way
[19:42] < owl> tcr: nope.
[19:43] < owl> Mike1: hm. on this strange acer no linux had ever been installed.
[19:43] < tcr> what does the linux version of fdisk say?
[19:43] < owl> tcr: huh? nothing... wyh?
[19:44] < Mike1> then what is the damn problem you are having with mbr?
[19:44] < Mike1> owl: try linux fdisk if you find it too complicated cfdisk is ur friend
[19:45] < tcr> no not cfdisk
[19:45] < owl> Mike1: i used fdisk, installed rock & lilo, wanted to boot into rock... --> hard disk boot sector invalid
[19:45] < owl> tcr, Mike1: i have no problems with partitioning the HD with fdisk
[19:45] < Mike1> tcr: :P
[19:46] < Mike1> owl: boot from , mount , chroot , check lilo.conf and re run 'lilo' then reboot
[19:46] < owl> btw, does someone know which HW components in general are included in an ACER ASPIRE 1300?
[19:46] < owl> Mike1: i did.
[19:46] < Mike1> lspci
[19:47] < tcr> i'm out, must do homeworks
[19:47] < owl> Mike1: of course. but... hmm..
[19:47] < owl> tcr: have fun. bye
[19:47] < owl> thx for your help
[19:47] < Mike1> owl: do you have lba32 in ur lilo.conf?
[19:47] < owl> yep
[19:47] < Mike1> is the path to the disc and to the partitons fine?
[19:47] < owl> yes
[19:48] < Mike1> do you get any errors when you re run 'lilo' ?
[19:48] < owl> yes. this one: Int 0x13 function 8 and fucktion 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80" << but just a warning.
[19:48] < blindcoder> hi *yawn*
[19:48] < owl> hi blindcoder
[19:49] < owl> blindcoder: my ASUS is defekt *crying*
[19:49] < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOOL*
[19:49] < Mike1> mom phone
[19:49] < owl> blindcoder: don't laugh!
[19:49] blindcoder pointing to owl and laughs
[19:49] < owl> now a i have a ACER as "leihgeraet" and i have thousands of problems. help!
[19:49] < owl> blindcoder: wait. next monday...
[19:50] < blindcoder> *ROTFL*
[19:50] < owl> blindy, blindy, blindy... TS!
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[19:50] < owl> moin huebi
[19:50] < huebi> Moin
[19:50] < Mike1> hi huebi
[19:50] < blindcoder> *MUAHAHAHA*
[19:50] < blindcoder> hi huebi
[19:50] < huebi> hi owl
[19:50] < huebi> hi Mike1
[19:50] < huebi> hi blindcoder
[19:50] < Mike1> wie gehts?
[19:51] < huebi> Mike1: Klasse. sparc32 does fail (at least the fl_wrapper library) on the dual CPU SparcStation 10 from ripclaww
[19:52] < Mike1> huebi: arrrg that sucks
[19:52] < Mike1> whats the fl_wrapper error?
[19:52] < huebi> owl: I need to burn 2 CD-Images for you so that you can start to use the JavaStation 10 immediatly.
[19:53] < Mike1> owl have a JavaStation ? 0_o
[19:53] < owl> huebi: ok. thx. when will you send the krups to me?
[19:53] < owl> Mike1: not yet :)
[19:53] < huebi> Mike1: It only finds the 4 files generated by Build-Package (flist,md5sum...)
[19:54] < Mike1> mmm.... this is strange,
[19:54] < Mike1> did it work fine on sparc64?
[19:55] blindcoder hates ROCK 1.7 *AARRGGHH*
[19:55] < huebi> Mike1: yes, it did.
[19:55] < Mike1> blindcoder: why? glibc?
[19:55] < huebi> blindcoder: I can understand that, too.
[19:55] < Mike1> huebi: any possible ideas on what could be making it brake?
[19:56] < blindcoder> Mike1: it compiles wonderful with 231 for sparc(32|64)
[19:56] < huebi> owl: I hope tomorrow. I have to fix a server tonight and perhaps tomorrow morning.
[19:56] < blindcoder> but I can't get past Stage 0 on x86
[19:56] < owl> huebi: ok. thx.
[19:56] < Mike1> blindcoder: ack neither do i
[19:56] < Mike1> and dont understand the error
[19:56] < blindcoder> but how did fake do it?
[19:57] < Mike1> blindcoder: i dont know
[19:57] < blindcoder> he said it works just about perfect
[19:57] < Mike1> are you suing cliff's cvs tree?
[19:57] < Mike1> what optimization did fake used?
[19:57] < huebi> fake has magic software fingers
[19:57] < Mike1> huebi: how do you mean?
[19:58] < blindcoder> Mike1: yes, cvs. Opt: pntium4, k6-2, none. each fais for one reason or another in Stage 0 or 1
[19:58] < huebi> Mike1: he hacks arround the bugs till it works.
[19:58] < Mike1> blindcoder: it failed for me for athlon , i386 and i686
[19:59] < Mike1> huebi: i see, still the problem with glibc on 1.7 is very weird, you dont really get to much feedback to find the bug
[19:59] < blindcoder> but taking aside three or four packages and 3 lines of manual patching and it works for sparc... *ARGH*;2~
[20:00] < huebi> Mike1: Gnome 2.1 will definitly get into 1.5.21
[20:00] < Mike1> huebi: YEAHHH!! :)
[20:00] < blindcoder> Mike1: I think if you use glibc231 on the hst it will work just fine
[20:00] < Mike1> btw when will 1.5.20 be released?
[20:01] < Mike1> mmm... i am currently using 2.2.5
[20:01] < huebi> Mike1: in 3 days. I need to adopt the new install disks from clifford and I also have to make a bootable CD for Sparc64.
[20:01] < Mike1> guess i will have to update
[20:01] < Mike1> huebi: oh that will be just cool
[20:02] < blindcoder> Mike1: me, too
[20:02] < Mike1> huebi: and btw thanks for considering our effords to get gnome2.x working on the 1.5 tree
[20:02] < huebi> k7 and i586 just compile straight through, on sparc64 gnome1 fails - a well known problem of gnome 1.4
[20:03] < Mike1> blindcoder: i am downloading sources to fix some broken links, then i will runa build
[20:03] < blindcoder> okay
[20:03] < Mike1> blindcoder: i will update glibc just after finishing download
[20:03] < huebi> Mike1: My goal is to get ROCK Linux on x86-64 this year.
[20:03] < Mike1> which would be about 2 hours or so
[20:04] < blindcoder> Mike1: could you please tell me if it worked?
[20:04] < Mike1> huebi: i think we will get it to work
[20:04] < Mike1> blindcoder: yes i will
[20:04] < blindcoder> thanks! *hugs_Mike1*
[20:04] < huebi> Mike1: it's easier than on sparc64 but needs gcc-3.2 and glibc-2.3.1
[20:05] < Mike1> ah well as you already know count me in for working on it :)
[20:05] < huebi> Mike1: Thanks. ;-)
[20:06] spender is away: auto-away 30m -fz-
[20:06] < Mike1> anyways i am hungry
[20:06] < Mike1> i will come back in an hour or so
[20:06] Mike1 is away: lunch
[20:07] < huebi> cu Mike1
[20:09] Mike1 is back (gone 00:02:55)
[20:09] < Mike1> changed my mind
[20:10] < owl> *ARGH*
[20:10] < owl> fscking acer!
[20:10] < blindcoder> *lol*
[20:11] < huebi> brb. must go to the office again.
[20:11] < Mike1> huebi: when will you come back
[20:11] < Mike1> ?
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[20:12] < owl> bye huebi
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[20:13] < owl> wtf is this stupid acer unable to boot from HD?!?
[20:14] < owl> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
[20:14] < owl> fn 08: 1023 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
[20:14] < owl> fn 48: 38760 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
[20:14] < owl> Added rock *
[20:14] < owl> ^^^^^why???
[20:15] blindcoder going to bed
[20:15] < blindcoder> good night
[20:16] < tcr> did you try verbose?
[20:16] < owl> gn8 blindcoder
[20:16] < owl> tcr: verbose? how?
[20:16] < owl> in lilo`?
[20:16] < tcr> jo
[20:16] < owl> nope
[20:20] < huebi> re
[20:21] < huebi> owl try grub. Grub is _way_ better than lilo.
[20:21] < huebi> owl: info grub.
[20:21] < owl> hm..
[20:22] < owl> it would help if the BIOS wouldn't give me error messages... :)
[20:22] < huebi> owl: you only have to install it once and if you change your menu.lst it will find out itself.
[20:22] < tcr> grub is unnecessarily complicate, imo
[20:22] < Mike1> re huebi
[20:22] < owl> YEHAW!!!
[20:22] < owl> i won!
[20:23] < huebi> re Mike1
[20:23] < owl> lilo lost the game ;P
[20:23] < huebi> tcr: It's similar to silo
[20:23] < Mike1> silo rulez :)
[20:23] < huebi> tcr: lilo is not usable if you want to install it not on the first BIOS disk.
[20:23] < owl> ok. kernel panic... but better than no boot :)
[20:24] < Mike1> lol
[20:24] < huebi> owl: in the grub shell you could now just add the right rootfs
[20:24] < huebi> no more emergency boots needed.
[20:25] < owl> hm. yes. but it's just a "leihnotebook" cuz my asus has displaying problems since today. so - i just need some files and a running rock... if the booting from HD would not have worked, then i would have used floppy...
[20:27] Mike1 is away: on the phone
[20:28] < owl> pandora login:
[20:28] < owl> great ;)
[20:46] huebi is rsyncing all the actuall sourses to the master ftp server.
[20:47] Mike1 is back (gone 00:20:45)
[20:47] < Mike1> huebi: ???
[20:48] < huebi> hmm. heavy load on that server. I don't get my line used completly
[20:49] < huebi> Mike1: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/rocklinux/ just gets an update.
[20:49] < Mike1> huebi: tu-wien server ?
[20:49] < Mike1> huebi: ah
[20:49] < Mike1> ok please tell me when you are finished so i can update my box
[20:49] < huebi> Mike1: no. The stud is the only master I take care about.
[20:49] < Mike1> huebi: yeah i just figured that
[20:50] < Mike1> huebi: do you still want me to take care of the rsync thingy ?
[20:50] < Mike1> or you wanna get it done from stud?
[20:51] < huebi> Mike1: I the moment please do care about it. I don't know when I get all things and people together to get a rsyncserver running on it.
[20:52] < Mike1> huebi: it will be my honor to keep taking care of it
[20:52] < huebi> Mike1: Thank you very much.
[20:52] < Mike1> so please let me know when you are done so i can update the sources on my box and get the tu-wien maintainer update
[20:53] < Mike1> huebi: no need to thank me :)
[20:53] < huebi> ahhh, koool. linesaturation is reached here.
[20:53] < Mike1> 0_o
[20:54] < Mike1> having fun?
[20:54] < huebi> Mike1: yes. and big lag.
[20:54] < Mike1> lol
[20:54] < huebi> QoS is somewthing I ever wanted to test and use.
[20:55] < Mike1> nice
[20:55] < Mike1> i must go after it
[20:55] < Mike1> sometime before the year is over
[20:55] < Mike1> :)
[20:55] < Mike1> guess now i will have you to bug with questions 8)
[20:56] < huebi> Mike1: yes, do it ;-)
[20:56] < Mike1> you know i will
[20:59] < Mike1> ok finally i will eat
[20:59] Mike1 is away: having an amazing lunch
[20:59] < huebi> Mike1: have fun. and a nice meal./
[20:59] < Mike1> huebi: thanks i will >_<
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[21:23] < owl> I DIE!
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[21:35] < Mike1> cool
[21:35] Mike1 is back (gone 00:36:16)
[21:36] < Mike1> re
[21:36] < huebi> Mike1: I'm still uploading (and writing a mail to the list about server and the 1.5 homepage)
[21:36] < Mike1> huebi: excellent
[21:37] < Mike1> huebi: did you succesfully build 1.5 with gnome2.1?
[21:38] < huebi> Mike1: No, I could not test it now. But the kernel build now works fine for ia32, sparc and sparc64.
[21:38] < Mike1> great
[21:38] < Mike1> what about ppc and alpha?
[21:38] < Mike1> and ia64
[21:38] < Mike1> *g*
[21:39] < huebi> ia64 iscrapp. the disk in the alpha is broken, as i had to mention yesterday.
[21:39] < huebi> has somebody a ppc for me?
[21:42] < Mike1> huebi: some weeks ago armijn told me he was going to work around alpha
[21:42] < Mike1> i am waiting for rolla to give me access to his alpha so i can work on it as well
[21:43] < Mike1> rolla: whats the status on this btw?
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[21:46] < Mike1> who is the ppc port maintainer?
[21:46] < huebi> I think clifford
[21:47] < Mike1> arrggg then i guess he will not help us out getting 1.5 to build on ppc
[21:47] < Mike1> huebi: we need a ppc
[21:47] < huebi> ACK
[21:47] < Mike1> i need an alpha and a sparc as well :(( damn i feel empty
[21:49] < Mike1> huebi: mmm.... there are 58 broken links on the base archive
[21:49] < Mike1> guess its time for me to work around this
[21:52] < rolla> Mike1: sorry it should be up by monday
[21:52] < huebi> Mike1: can you gib=ve me a list or can you fix it in cvs?
[21:54] < Mike1> rolla: sure no worries :)
[21:54] < Mike1> huebi: i will fix it dont worry
[21:54] < huebi> Mike1: kool thanks
[21:55] < Mike1> already working on it
[22:00] < Mike1> huebi: do you want me to commit each pz file at the time or the 58 fixes in at one?
[22:01] < huebi> Mike1: each at a time with a small comment what you have changed exactly would be great.
[22:01] < Mike1> huebi: i always do my friend
[22:02] < huebi> ;-)
[22:05] < praenti> hi
[22:05] < praenti> I HATE 1.7
[22:06] < Mike1> praenti: how are you
[22:06] < Mike1> praenti: hehe glibc stage 0 ?
[22:06] < praenti> Mike1: no
[22:06] < praenti> ./chew: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./chew)
[22:06] Mike1 has heard that expression at least 4 times today all from different people
[22:06] < praenti> binutils stage 1
[22:06] < huebi> praenti: moin
[22:07] < Mike1> praenti: no idea i am still stuck with glibc
[22:07] < praenti> and i dont know why this happen
[22:07] < praenti> moin hub
[22:07] < praenti> huebi
[22:08] < praenti> huebi: how are you? "im stress"?
[22:11] < huebi> praenti: not too much. only 98% of the maximun stress level is reached *gg*
[22:11] < praenti> Mike1: i think you have a warm weather in cr? argh it is very cold here. and i dont like that...
[22:11] < owl> hi praenti
[22:11] < d3mian__> hi all
[22:11] < Mike1> praenti: yes sunny with very soft and nice wind around
[22:11] < Mike1> damn i love my country :)
[22:11] < d3mian__> me2
[22:12] < Mike1> hi d3mian__
[22:12] < Mike1> praenti: though i like winter sports very much
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[22:13] < praenti> huebi: i know that at the moment. three professors are totally away from learning us s.th. now i must learn it by myself...
[22:13] < d3mian> i hate winter sports btw ... prefer to play soccer and do things under sun
[22:13] < d3mian> brb
[22:13] < huebi> praenti: hard stuff...
[22:13] < Mike1> huebi: how is the upload doing?
[22:14] < praenti> Mike1: I'm not a winter sports freak. we have i think 2 or 3 weeks with snow and must of the time it is too little for skiing
[22:14] < praenti> s/must/most
[22:14] < Mike1> praenti: i see
[22:14] < huebi> Mike1: I just download it directly on that server *g* 10MBit are 10MBit.
[22:15] < Mike1> hehe
[22:15] < Mike1> so its finished?
[22:15] < Mike1> you should wait for my fixes btw
[22:15] < Mike1> so far 3 packages fixed
[22:15] < praenti> huebi: software engineering and physic and databases (but there i have a little more knowlegde as the rest)
[22:15] < huebi> Mike1: not yet.
[22:15] < huebi> 9216K ........ ... 100% 325.89 KB/s
[22:16] < huebi> better than 16KB/s
[22:16] < Mike1> nice
[22:16] < Mike1> lol
[22:16] < huebi> Connecting to ftp.kde.org[131.220.60.97]:21... connected.
[22:16] < huebi> only 3 or 4 hops away
[22:17] < praenti> webmaster. hey thats a cool idea
[22:18] praenti hopes for a better design and structure ;-)
[22:18] < praenti> i know i'm too optimistic
[22:18] < d3mian> anyone knows what's the cvs cmd to get clifford 1.7 sources ?
[22:18] < huebi> praenti: Yes, we need one not involved in development at all.
[22:19] < Mike1> huebi: wanna stick with eel-1.0.2 or can update it to 1.1.17 version?
[22:19] < huebi> is eel 1.1.17 good for gnome 1 and 2?
[22:19] < Mike1> d3mian: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7
[22:19] < huebi> If yes, then do it.
[22:19] < d3mian> s/checkout/co -> brief
[22:20] < d3mian> thanx
[22:20] < Mike1> huebi: for gnome 1 i guess so for gnome 2 i would go for 2.1
[22:20] < praenti> huebi: i will ask a few persons in my university. there are some persons who have better ideas.
[22:21] < Mike1> d3mian: welcome
[22:21] < Mike1> huebi: perhaps i will stick with 1.0.2 as will will soon update to 2.1.x anyways
[22:21] < Mike1> ok?
[22:21] < huebi> ok
[22:21] < praenti> d3mian: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7
[22:22] < d3mian> than praenti 2 :)
[22:22] praenti must learn now a little bit. cu tomorrow
[22:22] < huebi> Mike1: just fix the download locations, please, if possible. I don't want to update packages in the moment. That needs too much fixing and testing.
[22:23] < Mike1> huebi: ack
[22:23] < huebi> I want to release 1.5.20 in 3 days for sparc64 and ia32. I have enough work with the boot CDs.
[22:24] < Mike1> huebi: yeah no worries but remember i am still supporting you :)
[22:24] < huebi> good idea to download directly from the original places to the mirror server.
[22:24] < Mike1> ack great idea actually
[22:25] < huebi> Mike1: I know about your support and I'm very happy about it.
[22:25] < d3mian> does rock's flist wrapper knows which files are created or modificated by the Build scripts ?
[22:25] < huebi> d3mian: Yes, it does.
[22:25] < d3mian> or flist logs also files created or modified by external applications during Build ?
[22:26] < d3mian> how does it makes difference between files created by build scripts and and others ?
[22:26] < huebi> d3mian: _all_ files created and deleted by Build-Pkg. directly or not.
[22:26] < huebi> d3mian: no difference
[22:26] < Mike1> huebi: btw how many of us are still on the 1.5 tree?
[22:27] < huebi> Mike1: not enough to get it stable fast.
[22:27] < d3mian> huebi: so if one created or modify a file during a build.. this file will be logged in the package flist ?
[22:27] < huebi> d3mian: ack
[22:27] < Mike1> huebi: :(
[22:27] < d3mian> damnit
[22:27] < d3mian> :'(
[22:28] < d3mian> will be cool to log fopen calls which have build scripts as parent process.
[22:28] < d3mian> but too hard
[22:28] < tcr> gn8 all
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[22:28] < huebi> cu tcr
[22:30] < d3mian> have u think any way to solute that prob? (avoid logging of file created by external processes - not rock's build scripts)
[22:30] < huebi> d3mian: No, I havn't
[22:31] < d3mian> i had an idea some days ago.. parse fopen calls by build scripts.. but a lot of files and libraries are open too when compiling or running apps. and if one do it, this will take a long time :(
[22:42] < fake> 22:41:09 up 171 days, 0 min, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.05
[22:42] < fake> weee!
[22:42] < Mike1> nice fake
[22:42] fake away again (driving IO home)
[22:42] < rolla> cool
[22:42] < Ge0rG> 171 days? is it a rock?
[22:42] < fake> err... *blushes* not yet,
[22:42] < huebi> SMP: longer times please ;-)
[22:43] < huebi> hi fake
[22:43] < Mike1> huebi: hehe thats evil :)
[22:43] Ge0rG is going to celebrate 2 years uptime soon
[22:43] < huebi> ~850 days?
[22:43] < fake> o_O
[22:43] < Mike1> fake: ok you just got ur ass kicked
[22:44] < fake> well, that is a devbox, so it's rather amusing that we have such a great uptime
[22:44] < Ge0rG> 10:44pm up 690 days, 8:04, 2 users, load average: 1.45, 1.16, 1.05
[22:44] < Mike1> mm....
[22:44] < huebi> Ge0rG: uname -a?
[22:45] < d3mian> strace -etrace=open and then grep for O_CREAT .. will this work ?
[22:45] < Ge0rG> huebi: Linux bender 2.2.16 #11 Tue Aug 22 12:21:12 CEST 2000 i486 unknown
[22:45] < huebi> Ge0rG: kool ;-)
[22:45] < fake> *lol*
[22:45] < Mike1> Ge0rG: nice
[22:46] < fake> however. l8ers ;)
[22:46] < Ge0rG> bye fake
[22:46] < Mike1> cu fake
[22:48] < d3mian> da u think that use strace for this purpose.. log fopen calls could take a long time ?
[22:48] < d3mian> if i use it and filter O_CREATE calls, i think this will work for a specific process
[22:49] < d3mian> sth like: strace <process> -etrace=open | grep O_CREAT and some extra stuff
[22:51] < d3mian> umm..
[22:52] < d3mian> for modified files. one could use -etrace=open,write,erase
[22:52] < huebi> Mike1: The upload is allmost finished.
[22:52] < Mike1> neat
[22:52] < Mike1> one more hours and i will finish the broken url packages fix
[22:53] < huebi> owl: please /msg me your address
[22:53] < Mike1> huebi: owl@msn.com
[22:53] < Mike1> *g*
[22:54] < owl> Mike1: *arghl*
[22:54] < huebi> *lol*
[22:54] < owl> huebi: got it?
[22:55] < huebi> Mike1: base-archive is up to date
[22:55] < huebi> owl: YES.
[22:55] < Mike1> huebi: ok i will wget now
[22:55] < Mike1> thanks huebi
[22:57] < owl> *argh* that notebook kills me!
[22:57] < owl> has someone experience with a acer aspire 1300?
[22:58] < d3mian> cya -> making some tests
[22:58] < owl> with s3 savage4 ...?
[22:58] < Mike1> have fun d3mian
[22:58] < owl> bye d3mian
[22:59] < Mike1> huebi: BTW only base-archive right?
[22:59] < Mike1> what about ext-archive and opt-archive?
[22:59] < term_emu> good night
[22:59] < huebi> Mike1: ack. opt is still running but must also be finished soon.
[23:00] < huebi> cu term_emu
[23:00] < Mike1> huebi: ah nice
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[23:09] < huebi> opt-archive is ready, too
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[23:12] < d3mian> hackbard
[23:12] < d3mian> Freak
[23:12] < d3mian> re
[23:12] < Freak> d3mian
[23:12] < Freak> tanks
[23:13] < Mike1> huebi: thanks already fetching :)
[23:14] < Mike1> hi Freaky und hackbard
[23:14] < Freak> hi mike
[23:15] < hackbard> hi
[23:15] < Freak> all is full of "hi".
[23:15] < owl> hi hackbard, Freak
[23:15] < Mike1> Freak: ?
[23:15] < Freak> ;)
[23:15] < Freak> nevermind
[23:16] < Mike1> aszlig: awake?
[23:21] < owl> gn8
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[23:21] < huebi> cu owl
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[23:29] < Mike1> huebi: as you said on ur mail to the RLML my 1.5 sources will be up to date by tomorrow
[23:30] < huebi> Mike1: very nice. A next big mail about 1.5.20 will be sent in a short time.
[23:30] < Mike1> oh yeah?
[23:30] < Mike1> i will be looking forward to read it :)
[23:30] < Mike1> have you updated the ext-archive as well btw?
[23:31] < huebi> gzip->bzip2 + cksum-test: ext-archive/mysql/mysql-3.23.51.tar.gz
[23:31] < huebi> just now....
[23:33] < Mike1> :)
[23:39] < Mike1> *yawn*
[23:39] Mike1 getting coffee
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[23:53] < tsa> hola!
[23:54] < Mike1> hola tsa
[23:54] < tsa> hola Mike1, como te va?
[23:54] < Mike1> muy bien gracias Dios y a ti?
[23:54] < tsa> ah, muy bien, gracias.
[23:54] < Mike1> que bueno
[23:55] < Mike1> donde has estado no te habia visto hoy
[23:55] < tsa> ah...
[23:55] < tsa> si, tuve que trabajar mucho hoy.
[23:56] < tsa> pero ahora estoy muy borracho ;-=)
[23:57] < Mike1> ah borracho ... y por que no me invitaste a la fiesta? no es justo olvidarse de los amigos!!
[23:58] < Mike1> mmm... Cliffords reply to huebi's mail doesnt look so good
[23:58] < tsa> no, not really. clifford seems to be kind of "pissed off", i'd say..
[23:59] < Mike1> tsa: welll what can he spect there arent to many of us working on 1.5 anymore...
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