--- Log opened Fri Nov 08 00:00:34 2002 --- Day changed Fri Nov 08 2002 00:45 < owl> gn8. cu 00:45 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B56eb.pppool.de] has quit ("_NULL->zzZZZZzzzZ") 00:50 * fake running fresh 1.7-pentium3 00:51 < Mike1> fake: me too 00:52 < Mike1> fake: == 16:05:01 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.19 1.7-snapshot]. 00:53 < Mike1> also == 17:01:30 =[3]=> Building base package diffutils [2.8.1 1.5.20]. 01:12 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39BED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 01:22 < tsa> n8 01:23 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AE71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:25 -!- SonnyBoyJim [WinNT@ool-18bf01b5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:26 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A6CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:29 -!- SonnyBoyJim [WinNT@ool-18bf01b5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit (Client Quit) 01:59 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 01:59 < d3mian> hi all 02:51 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("say /quit to idle clients") 03:00 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:06 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:07 < d3mian> paperclip 04:08 < paperclip> hello 04:36 -!- Netsplit brunner.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: netrunner, praenti, huebi, ichilton, LoriZzZ, capchaos, zer0_o^, paperclip, d3mian, simon, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 04:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: paperclip, d3mian, LoriZzZ, th, capchaos, kasc, ichilton, rxr, [anders]_, zer0_o^ (+8 more) 05:34 < d3mian> cya latah 05:39 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958F3E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:51 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080233F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:56 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p5080111D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:09 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has quit ("bbiaf") 06:15 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:25 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080235F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:27 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has left #rocklinux () 07:34 -!- miniPanda [~minipanda@211.154.175.2] has joined #rocklinux 07:34 -!- miniPanda [~minipanda@211.154.175.2] has left #rocklinux () 08:40 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 08:40 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 08:42 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Client Quit) 08:43 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:27 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders] 09:27 < [anders]> re 09:28 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 09:29 < blindcoder> hi [anders] 09:36 < [anders]> re blindcoder 09:37 < [anders]> long time no type.. /me been quite busy.. (still is..) been renegotiating my contract as the old one is (a) pants, (b) leaves me vulnerable to litigation and (c) doesn't reflect the actual working relationship 09:38 < [anders]> as well as been to sweden for a week (last week) with my daughter and tried to sort out car insurance (expensive stuff) 09:39 -!- LoriZzZ is now known as LoriAW 09:43 < blindcoder> i see. did you crash your car? 09:43 * blindcoder currently setting up a nethack package 09:43 < [anders]> nix.. did not crash it, have got a new one.. (2nd hand still but..) 09:44 < [anders]> got a Golf VR6 at the end of last month.. (vroom vroom.. :) 09:45 < blindcoder> hmm sweet :) 09:46 < [anders]> blindcoder: oooohhhhh yeeeessss! bombing down the motorway it ever so easy now.. :) overtaking is never a problem anymore.. :) 09:48 < blindcoder> *lol* yes, I think so. how fast does it co? 09:48 < blindcoder> go? 09:53 -!- owl [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has joined #rocklinux 09:53 < owl> hi 09:53 -!- owl is now known as owl^work 09:53 -!- owl^work [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has quit (Client Quit) 09:57 < [anders]> blindcoder: 145 mph.. which is about 230 km/h or so... 09:58 < [anders]> blindcoder: in other words, fast enough.. The speed limit on the roads here in UK is tops 70 mph, so there is way more than I actually need.. It is the acceleration that is the nice thing anyway.. :) 09:59 < [anders]> I do not generally go that fast, but the quicker I get to the speed I want to go at, the better... :) 10:10 < blindcoder> hehe sweet :) 10:11 * SMP worships Autobahnen (no speed limit) 10:12 < blindcoder> my "Rennsemmel" (Seat Ibiza 90PS) does about 200 km/h 210 if I'm reallly daring. It's nice that here in Germany there aren't speedlimits on the "Autobahn" so I gan be from Munich to Ingolstadt (~90 km) in 40 Minutes when having to stay at work till 23:30 every now and then 10:14 < [anders]> SMP: Autobahn is a nice concept, when people take the proper precautions (keep the distance etc in relation to speed). Going at 200 km/h means you have to keep a _much_ longer distance to the car in front compared to doing 120 km/h 10:15 < [anders]> Here in UK the politicians are on about reducing (?) the speed on some motorways from ~110 km/h down to about 70 km/h. 10:15 < SMP> it's all about proper education 10:15 < [anders]> Sort of defeats the purpose of motorway IMNSHO.. 10:16 < [anders]> blindcoder: Hehehe.. I wish I could do that type of speed here in UK, would be a lot easier commuting the 60km+ I have to and from customer site every day. 10:17 < [anders]> at the moment it takes me around 50 minutes to do that stretch and it is 90% motorway driving, but sometimes I can do higher speed off the motorway than on it.. :-/ 10:18 < SMP> you probably really don't want to have someone from e.g. UK or US do 220 on the Autobahn because he's not used to it.. 10:21 < [anders]> SMP: true.. I have at plenty of occations been doing about 160 km/h for long stretches, but there is a difference between 160 and 220 km/h.. 10:21 < SMP> (and I'd rather not have a lot of the German drivers to it either) 10:21 < SMP> (but that's just me ;>) 10:21 < blindcoder> SMP: I've seen that personally. You take someone from the US with you, go at 180 190 and you see the fear in his aface 10:22 < [anders]> I start feeling nervous when going past 180 km/h, but that is because I have not been able to trust the car I have been driving. Now, in the Golf, I feel safe even when doing 180 km/h... 10:22 < SMP> blindcoder: hehehe 10:22 < [anders]> blindcoder: that is because they stick rigidly to the speed limits when they are at home in UK.. 10:23 < blindcoder> but late at nicht at 23:30 when going munich-->ingolstadt i see about 10 or 20 cars along the way 10:23 < blindcoder> [anders]: it's good to obey speed limits. 10:24 < blindcoder> my ex-girlfriend nearly got killed because of someone not doing so 10:25 * SMP always goes as fast as he thinks he should 10:26 < SMP> and sometimes that means going much slower than the limit of course 10:26 * blindcoder sometimes goes faster than he should, I have to admit 10:28 * blindcoder now away, hacking together the nethack-package 10:29 < [anders]> s/UK/US/ 10:29 < [anders]> Well, I adhere to speed limits when it is sensible to do so.. 10:29 * SMP didn't get a speeding ticket for -uh- like 2-3 years 10:30 < SMP> which is good because I got too many the 3 years before 10:33 < [anders]> And if the conditions means keeping a slower (sometimes much slower) speed that the speedlimit, I do so. Killing yourself by doing 110 km/h when you can not see the road due to heavy rain or fog is a bad idea. 10:33 * [anders] has never had a speeding ticket.. (touch wood)... 10:34 < [anders]> blindcoder: No, it is good to drive sensibly and educatedly. It is bad to adhere to speedlimits blindly.. 10:36 < [anders]> If the limit is 110, but conditions doesn't really allow for more than 60, then doing 110 just because the signs say so is dangerous and stupid.. Unfortunately, the attitude fostered by the government and the police here in UK means all to many drivers blindly stick to what the sign says. 10:37 < [anders]> Some days when the weather is excellent and the road is dry, I drive past these people easily, but other days, when it is raining and there is lots of spray, they overtake me easily.. 10:38 < [anders]> Not much I can do about others driving habits, but fostering an attitude to blindly stick to the speed limit is IMHO wrong. 11:13 < blindcoder> [anders]: that 'blindly' us a bad pun, you know :) 11:14 < blindcoder> [anders]: but I fully agree with what you say 11:15 < blindcoder> boy, creating a sensible config,in for nethack isn't childs play... 11:15 < blindcoder> c0ff33 11:15 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:16 < blindcoder> hi Ge0rG 11:16 < Ge0rG> hello 11:18 < blindcoder> does anyone besides me play nethack? 11:47 < fake> hi 11:48 < fake> blindcoder: you here? 11:50 < blindcoder> yes 11:50 < [anders]> blindcoder: It wasn't ment to be a pun, but now when you mention it..... ;-) 11:50 < blindcoder> [anders]: sure :) 11:51 < [anders]> blindcoder: I tend to play zAngband myself.. 11:52 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3947C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:52 < blindcoder> [anders]: hm... never tried that one... but I'm currently working on a nethack package and I try to consider that tons of compile-time options that there are... the config.in is a mess and nethack.conf isn't going to be much better 11:52 < blindcoder> hi Freak 11:53 < blindcoder> fake: what's up? 11:54 < Freak> mornings 11:54 < fake> blindcoder: sql problems 11:54 < fake> hi Freak! 11:55 < blindcoder> [anders]: think "automatic patch creation from information the luser has provided" 11:55 < fake> select distinct rq_pa_name, count(distinct rq_office) from v_reporting where 1=1 group by rq_pa_name sort by rq_pa_name; 11:55 < blindcoder> mom tel 11:55 < fake> -> ORA-00933: SQL-Befehl wurde nicht korrekt beendet 11:56 < fake> are group and sort equal? *wondering* 11:56 < blindcoder> no 11:56 < fake> hum 11:57 < fake> i cant sort a grouped result? 11:57 < blindcoder> i think not... 11:58 < blindcoder> i had probs mith that on mysql, too 11:58 < blindcoder> btw 11:58 < blindcoder> what for "distinct rq_pa_name" and then "group by rq_pa_name" 11:59 * fake pints blindy to the error message 11:59 < fake> points 11:59 < fake> ORA... 11:59 < fake> hum, thought i'd need that 11:59 < blindcoder> yes I've seen tha 11:59 < blindcoder> but the combinatoin of "distinct rq_pa_name" and "group by rq_pa_name" baffles me 12:00 < blindcoder> that's something I don't think il logical 12:00 < blindcoder> distinct says only one of it 12:00 < fake> blindcoder: i am working on a result which has multiple lines with the same entries, because of permutations of attributes 12:00 < blindcoder> and group by says group all that are equal 12:00 < fake> s,result,view, 12:01 < fake> you might be right 12:01 < fake> just a seconbd 12:01 < blindcoder> whirh has to fail when there is only one 12:01 < fake> not fail, just be bored ;) 12:02 < blindcoder> hehe 12:03 < blindcoder> hmm... 12:03 < blindcoder> nethack.conf will make an interesting read, indeed 12:04 < esden> morning ! 12:04 < fake> morning esden! 12:04 < fake> ARGH 12:04 < blindcoder> moin esden 12:05 < fake> why don't you just tell me that it has to be ORDER BY ?!?! 12:05 < fake> i am so stupid... 12:05 * fake needs more coffee 12:05 < blindcoder> oh... 12:05 < blindcoder> didn't pf it attention :) 12:05 < blindcoder> pay 12:06 < esden> endlich geht das dsl beim daniel 12:06 < esden> aber irgendwie schreklich lahm ... 12:06 < blindcoder> esden: jump happyly for the nethack package will be ready by the end of the day :) 12:06 < esden> o_O 12:06 < esden> which page ? 12:06 < esden> where ? 12:07 < blindcoder> _package_ 12:07 < esden> what ? 12:07 < esden> huh ? 12:07 < fake> esden: and because i'll install ROCK 1.7 on technik-0{1,2} tonight 12:07 < esden> ahh package !!! 12:07 < esden> fake: wooot !!! 12:07 < blindcoder> esden: the config.in is something to puke on 12:07 < esden> fake what have you hacked yesterday ? 12:07 < fake> esden: after i fixed that server 12:08 < esden> yes ? 12:08 < blindcoder> and the nethack.conf will actually be so bad code that it will kill someone occasionally 12:08 < fake> esden: it took me all evening (and most of the night) to install 1.7 on my laptop 12:08 < esden> ohh lool 12:08 < esden> but you did it ;-) 12:08 < fake> no "Install" 12:08 < blindcoder> esden: but it will work :) 12:08 * fake didn't find an install-tool 12:08 < esden> it can be that there is none ... 12:08 < fake> so... mine -i -v -R /trg /// 12:09 < blindcoder> fake: for x in *tar.bz2 ; do tar xfvI $x ; done 12:09 < blindcoder> ? 12:09 < fake> eeek. 12:09 < fake> mine -i -v -R /trg /src/1.7-blablaba/pkgs/*.gem 12:09 < blindcoder> he will kill _me_ now :) 12:09 < fake> that's what i did in fact 12:09 < esden> blindcoder: *smack* tar.bz2 ? 12:09 < fake> but that gave me problems. 12:09 < esden> argh ... the connection here is really slow 12:10 < blindcoder> esden: *backsmack* I tust had this lune lying around :) 12:11 < blindcoder> okay, I gotta get back to writing code that's a threat to health, life and sanity in general 12:11 < esden> argh 12:11 < esden> puhh 12:12 < esden> now I know why the connection was so slow 12:12 < blindcoder> l8er 12:12 < esden> l8er blindcoder 12:12 < fake> blindcoder: the group is needed. 12:12 < esden> DHR was using gnutella >_< 12:12 < fake> *lol* 12:15 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 12:22 < Freak> byebye 12:22 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3947C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 12:26 < esden> fake: blindcoder: da ich jetzt beim daniel bin mit dem auto ... wenn ihr wollt koennt mit mir fahren ... wenn ihr zum candidplatz kommt 12:33 * fake hat heute abend noch nen termin ;) 12:44 < esden> aha ... 12:45 < fake> du weisst doch, drachi's dad 12:47 < esden> aja ... stimmt ... und wann willst du die kisten im bitz installieren ? o_O 12:47 < fake> esden: na, danach 12:47 < fake> wenn ich in IN bin 12:47 < fake> genau, koenntest du mich da evtl. from Bhf abholen? mein auto is noch beim richten... 12:49 -!- owl [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has joined #rocklinux 12:49 < owl> moin 12:50 -!- owl is now known as owl^work 12:51 -!- owl^work [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has quit (Client Quit) 12:55 -!- owl^work [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 < owl^work> re 12:55 < owl^work> clear 13:00 < fake> hi owl^work 13:00 < owl^work> moin fake. 13:01 < owl^work> hast du 'ne ahnung ob blindcoder noch lebt? 13:02 < fake> nein 13:02 < owl^work> schande. :-/ danke. 13:06 < fake> er is vor ein paar minuten weg, vielleicht is er an seinem code erstickt 13:08 < owl^work> ack. kann natuerlich vorkommen. 13:08 < esden> fake: um wieviel uhr ? 13:08 < esden> hi owl^work 13:08 < owl^work> moin esden 13:08 < esden> owl^work: du sollst arbeiten und nicht chatten !!! ;-) 13:09 < owl^work> esden: ruhe, du student. du hast hier nix zu melden... ;P 13:12 < esden> *meld* 13:14 < fake> esden: das weiss ich noch nicht... 13:19 < huebi> moin 13:31 < esden> hi huebi 13:31 < huebi> hi esden 13:31 < fake> hi huebi ! 13:32 < huebi> huhu fake ;-) 13:32 < snyke> bla 13:32 < fake> how's things? 13:33 < huebi> fake: I'm tired. I had to work from 7h30 or so till 1h00 this morning. 13:33 * fake was up from 6:45 to 1:00... you are getting old, huebi :) 13:33 < huebi> It could happen, that 3 more of the "Rocklinux Multimedia Servers" will be sold in the next weeks. 13:34 < fake> kewl. how much are they? maybe i'll grab one too... ;)) 13:35 < huebi> ~ 1000 EUR only for the hardware. The soundcard costs 380 EUR. 13:36 < fake> o_O ah... that multichannelbeast? 13:36 < huebi> fake: ACK. 8 digital channels. 13:37 < huebi> I heared that card with 2 very good speakers last night. Really kool and with alsa-0.90rc4 without any noise. 13:38 < fake> isn't rc5 out for a while now? just wondering 13:39 < huebi> yes, since 2002-10-24 but it did not compile, IIRC 13:39 < fake> owl has it on her notebook ;) 13:40 < huebi> fake: hmmm. I'll test it again now. 13:41 < huebi> beware rc3 - ugly clipping. 13:41 < huebi> +of 13:44 * -> esden shower 13:44 < huebi> fake: I mixed rc4 and rc5. 13:44 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 13:45 < huebi> hi blindcoder 13:45 < blindcoder> hi huebi 13:47 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 13:48 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 < huebi> alsa 0.90rc5 compiles fine. 14:15 < huebi> SMP: Have you got an explanation for that: 14:15 < huebi> cvs commit: Examining . 14:15 < huebi> socket: Address family not supported by protocol 14:17 < fake> ipv6? 14:17 < huebi> fake: I thought s, too but I'm not sure. 14:17 < huebi> +o 14:18 < fake> it doesn't work afterwards? 14:18 < fake> the you forgot to compile ipv4 support in XD 14:18 < huebi> Yes it doees. Only this message. 14:18 < fake> maybe you get an ipv6 addressby the nameserver as an alternative.. and this one is tried first 14:18 < huebi> I meen it works without a failure 14:19 < fake> i know 14:19 * fake wondering 14:20 < fake> i can't remember that address, but a nslookup showd an ipv6 address for it 14:20 < fake> and ipv4, too 14:20 < huebi> fake: Thank you. 14:21 < fake> ip-v6.org aszlig 62.219.175.100 14:21 < fake> douh. 14:21 < fake> nix aszlig 14:21 < fake> that was capital 'A' 14:24 < SMP> yes, world does also have an AAAA record now 14:24 < fake> woot, i was right *g* 14:24 < fake> and, hi SMP. 14:25 < SMP> I'll add services (ssh, smtp) on v6 during the next days 14:27 < SMP> (not to forget www) 14:29 < huebi> I think I must read a little bit about IPv6 just to get a feeling for it. 14:31 < SMP> "the addresses are longer. subnet mask is always /64, but it's all configured automagically anyway. you don't get any pr0n by it yet." that's about all a user needs to know. 14:32 < huebi> hehe. I read enough for the moment I think. *g* 14:32 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@80.152.13.41] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 * huebi just commiting all the termcap-to-ncurses.patches. 14:36 < blindcoder> "it's all configured automagically" that's the part I'm worried about 14:36 < fake> hm... 14:36 -!- Lorini [~andrea@pD9506DB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 14:37 < blindcoder> at laest after having more troubles vith SNmasks than with stupid users 14:38 < fake> interesting. gsmp segfaults ;) 14:38 < fake> maybe i should tease rene with that *g* 14:38 < blindcoder> nike :) 14:38 < huebi> fake: Yes, please. 14:39 < fake> WavePlotManager::CreateListsForStage: returning: 0 14:40 < fake> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 14:40 < esden> re 14:40 < fake> re esden 14:40 < huebi> re esden 14:41 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 14:41 < Mike1> moin 14:41 < huebi> hi Mike1 14:41 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 14:42 < blindcoder> re esden 14:42 < Mike1> hu huebi blindcoder 14:42 < blindcoder> hmm 14:43 * blindcoder thinking again about submitting his nethack-package to 1.7 14:44 < esden> hi Mike1 14:44 < Mike1> hi esden 14:44 < esden> blindcoder: do it in the blindcoder repository ;-) 14:44 < blindcoder> on a scale of 1 to 10 the quality of the configuration would rank somewhere in the negative billions... 14:44 < blindcoder> esden: it already is 14:44 < blindcoder> on my harddisk, that is 14:46 < blindcoder> but... I can post the config.in to you prvate if you want 14:47 < blindcoder> then you know what I'm talking about 14:47 < Mike1> huebi: ok rock linux master has already sync sources with me so everything is up to date 14:48 < huebi> Mike1: I just updated alsa to 0.90rc5 and all packages for xfsprogs. 14:48 < Mike1> huebi: arrrggg 14:48 < Mike1> :) 14:48 < Mike1> i will update later i need to get my build working 14:48 < huebi> Mike1: ok 14:48 < Mike1> btw i tested downgrade of nvi to 1.49 didnt work for me 14:49 < Mike1> so i didnt commit 14:49 < huebi> Mike1: I'm just commiting all my changes I did in the last 2 days. 14:49 < Mike1> just got to my office my build broke again with xfree on stage 3 14:49 < huebi> Mike1: nvi was missing some files. Just get them from cvs 14:49 < Mike1> huebi: cool 14:50 < Mike1> 4.2.0-4.2.1.patch is failing ... 14:50 < huebi> Mike1: remove it, please. 14:51 < Mike1> huebi: ok 14:51 < huebi> Mike1: I need a few more minutes to commit xfree86. Please be patient. ;-) 14:52 < Mike1> ? 14:52 < Mike1> ok 14:53 < huebi> nvi is now ok. I had to ci nvi.conf again. 14:54 < esden> fake: nice mail to rlml 14:54 * -> esden updating his 1.7 tree 14:55 < Mike1> huebi: i will wait for you to finish all ur ci's then i check out :) 14:55 < huebi> Mike1: ok 14:55 < Mike1> esden: me too 14:55 < blindcoder> esden: want to see it? 14:56 < Mike1> ok gcc3 stage2 broke for me (1.7) ... checking what went wrong ... 15:02 < esden> blindcoder: send me a patch to the current 1.7 tree please 15:02 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048453.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 15:05 < blindcoder> that'll take some time 15:05 < blindcoder> it, not ready to use yet, but it makes an interesting read 15:05 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523242.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:05 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523242.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 15:06 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523242.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:06 < blindcoder> esden: oh and btw: giving the help as a parameter te the config functions (bool etc.) is fucked up 15:07 < blindcoder> your "sed tr sandwitch"s best-before-end-date has run out :) 15:09 < blindcoder> https://scavenger.homeip.net/~blindcoder/config.in <-- have fun :) 15:12 < [anders]> lo 15:12 * [anders] being blastedly busy today.... 15:12 < blindcoder> hmm not good :) 15:12 < huebi> hi [anders] . 15:12 < huebi> [anders]: nice to see you 15:12 < [anders]> re huebi, wie gehts? 15:12 < blindcoder> stress is fatal to your health :) 15:13 < [anders]> huebi: the very same to you... :) 15:13 < huebi> [anders]: fine. 1.5.20 get into the final stage 15:13 < [anders]> blindcoder: you can say that again. the stress of re-negotiating my contract with the agency is starting to take out its right.. 15:13 < [anders]> huebi: excellent news.. :) 15:13 < huebi> [anders]: Good news for you: Gnome2 _must_ get into 1.5 to get it built on sparc64 15:14 < [anders]> I have not had any chance of working on ROCK in the last few weeks.. Before I went on holiday, I had some time, but after that, no chance. 15:14 < huebi> [anders]: same for AMD x86-64 15:15 < Mike1> Master [anders] !!! 15:15 < [anders]> huebi: okidoki.. I will see what I can do about Gnome 2.. At the moment there is a branch with Gnome 2.1, but that is experimental and does not work 100%, neither did the Gnome 2.0.x builds.. I am not quite sure what is wrong.. 15:15 < blindcoder> [anders]: odn't strain yourself too much. If you break down, you can't do much for a _very_ long time 15:15 < [anders]> Mike1: Good Morning my friend, long time no type.. :) 15:16 < [anders]> blindcoder: I am fully aware of that.. my body has already told me to slow down, so I am taking it easier than before. 15:16 < Mike1> [anders]: yeah how did you go on ur holidays? 15:16 < Mike1> [anders]: i already gave huebi a tarball with the gnome2.1 brand 15:16 < [anders]> huebi: I am planning on buying the Amiga motherboard as well, the G4 800MHz version.. That means I should be able to start working on a port to PPC at some point in the future. 15:17 < huebi> [anders]: koool ;-) 15:17 < Mike1> ah finally we get ppc !! 15:17 < [anders]> Mike1: good.. the holiday was okay, but I had a cold all the time, so lots of coughing and sneezing.. 15:17 < blindcoder> be seft back 15:17 < blindcoder> left 15:17 < Mike1> [anders]: lol you should have come to CR ... 15:18 < [anders]> Mike1: I would probably have ended up with the cold anyway.. 15:18 < Mike1> [anders]: ah who knows :) 15:18 < [anders]> Perhaops I will get time to spin a new build next week. I will try and make a new tag in the Gnome 2.1 branch and update a bit more. I want to get it working.. 15:19 < [anders]> Mike1: true, who knows.. :) 15:19 < Mike1> [anders]: i have been busy taking of availability on the official 1.5 tree so no time to play around 2.1 brand 15:19 < [anders]> re the PPC stuff, I am still v. space limited at home, but I will try and get a small ATX case to fit the board in.. 15:20 < [anders]> Mike1: no worries, I'll put some effort in when I can. At the moment I have a little to little time available to hack. Christmas coming up and all that. :-/ 15:20 < Mike1> i got plenty of space in my room but no cool hardware except my little dual xp 15:21 < Mike1> [anders]: ah lets see how we get it stable :) 15:21 < [anders]> Well, the G4-800MHz boards are about 500 GBP in price, so quite expensive, but on the other hand, they are v. nice boards.. :) 15:22 < [anders]> Mike1: tghe Gnome 2.1 stuff will need updating again, as it is over two weeks anything was done, so new versions of about everything should be available.. Perhaps even there is a Gnome 2.1.1 or a 2.1.2 available.. 15:22 < [anders]> and kernel 2.4.20 is just around the corner as well.. :) 15:25 < Mike1> [anders]: and you are still forgetting the sync with the official 1.5 sources 15:25 < rolla> fuck 15:25 < Mike1> it has changed a lot >_< 15:25 < Mike1> hi rolla 15:25 < Mike1> fscking again? 15:25 < Mike1> *g* 15:26 < rolla> yeah today is the layoffs 15:26 < blindcoder> hi rolla 15:26 < Mike1> oh fire works 15:26 < [anders]> Mike1: not forgetting, not having time.. 15:26 < Mike1> [anders]: *G* i'll see what i can do 15:26 < Mike1> but do spect a HUGE patch 15:27 < [anders]> Mike1: I will do the sync, but might as well wait for the full 1.5.20 before sitting down with a 2 MB patch and hand editing it again.. 15:27 -!- diskordier [~capchaos@pD904854A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:28 -!- diskordier is now known as capchaos 15:28 < Mike1> [anders]: if everything goes fine 1.5.20 will released ... today or tomorrow ... huebi? 15:28 < huebi> tomorrow or on sunday. Accidently I had to work yesterday. 15:29 < [anders]> Mike1: there is a 2.1.1 available for Gnome 2.x 15:29 < Mike1> ack 15:29 < [anders]> huebi: no hurry needed IMHO.. I can not spend any time on it this weekend anyway.. (sucks not having time to hack...) 15:30 < Mike1> huebi: i am running a build havent get much trouble besides nvi and that xfree patch 15:31 * Mike1 getting coffee 15:32 * [anders] needs more time... but also needs to spend time on getting fit and on family life.. On top of that there is the divorce and all other paperwork that needs taking care of, like car insurance, house insurance, company details etc.. 15:32 < huebi> All patches are now in cvs. Mike: All packages should build now. I'm going to test it in a while. But first I have to pack a huge package for owl. 15:33 < huebi> And an update for the JavaOS on the JavaStation is still needed, too, 15:33 * [anders] is incredibly tempted starting a completely new project in the CVS tree where package by package gets added in and anything not working gets removed from the tree completely. 15:34 < huebi> Building rocklinux on the Krups was not a good idea. All has to be done over the network. 15:35 < huebi> [anders]: That would be a very hard work. The dependencies are not documented in 1.5. 15:35 < Mike1> [anders]: begging from scratch you mean? 15:35 < Mike1> huebi: great i will check out in a moment 15:35 < [anders]> something that is incredibly irritating is that XMMS for example does not support GTK+ 2.0 15:35 < [anders]> Mike1: not really, I can look at 1.5.20 to see what the absolute basics are.. 15:36 < Mike1> [anders]: will xmms is an ext still it just happened that i made a base package on our tree :) 15:36 < [anders]> huebi: lots of work, but gets rid of obsolete packages that are still there but nothing uses them. 15:37 < Mike1> [anders]: the deal sounds fair to me lets just hope we can be able to get enought time to merge effords 15:37 < [anders]> Mike1: Yeah, problem is that they have _no_ plans in porting it to gtk+ 2.0.. so for XMMS you would need glib 1.2.6 and gtk+ 1.2.6 (plus any deps for them) making XMMS a very expensive package... 15:38 < [anders]> I would like to get a tree where there is nothing left of gnome 1.4 (or older) so that I can build apps for gnome 2 and know that tehre is nothing interfering.. 15:38 < [anders]> and that means that I can get it working, then port it into the main tree from there. 15:39 < [anders]> and if I do not have to build qt or any of the kde stuff, the build times are shorter and the turn-around will be better.. 15:39 < [anders]> It is still just an idea, but I am very tempted.. 15:39 < Mike1> we should remove it from the base for sometime 15:39 < Mike1> xmms i mean 15:41 < esden> ok /me rebuiding 1.7 ... 15:41 * -> esden -> food 15:41 < Mike1> have fun esden 15:42 < [anders]> Mike1: xmms might have to move to ext for the time being.. 15:42 < Mike1> [anders]: ack 15:42 < Mike1> then you can port it to gtk+ 2.0 *vbeg* 15:42 < [anders]> Mike1: somehow I do not think that will happen..... ;-) 15:42 < Mike1> :P 15:44 < Mike1> huebi: ok i am stop my build for a while checking out ur ci's now 15:44 < [anders]> The thing is, if I have a separate cvs object for pure gnome2 experimentation, no ext's need to be in that, which reduce size and speed up checkout. 15:45 < [anders]> that way I might even be able to get Evolution working. 15:45 < Mike1> i get ur point 15:45 < Mike1> so you meant no ext no kde? 15:45 < [anders]> no ext, no kde, no Qt.. 15:46 < Mike1> mmm... 15:46 < huebi> Mike1: ack 15:46 < [anders]> pure base, add package after package, get Gnome2 building.. other trees can get other packages going as long as the *base* is the same.. 15:47 < Mike1> huebi: did you change anything on audiofile? 15:47 < Mike1> i had fixed the broken url an dits wrong again, doesnt say anything in the chnagelog 15:47 < Mike1> [anders]: sounds good to me 15:49 < [anders]> Mike1: it also means I can get the versioning on the packages right.. ;-) 15:49 < huebi> Mike1: no, I didn't. Here I have the same old file 15:49 < huebi> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 196 Jun 3 22:20 base-config/audiofile/audiofile.pz 15:49 < [anders]> no more of this 1.1.1.2.1.4 stuff.... 15:49 < zer0_o^> lol 15:49 < Mike1> huebi: 2002-11-06 23:04 mike 15:49 < Mike1> * rock-1.5/base-config/gnome-audio/gnome-audio.pz: Fixed broken url 15:50 < Mike1> anyways many things changed i will start a new build 15:54 < huebi> Mike1: just recommit it. 15:54 < Mike1> [anders]: neat 15:54 < Mike1> huebi: yeah in a moment :) 15:55 < Mike1> zer0_o^: 0_o >:) 15:55 < [anders]> Mike1: well, sort of.. it is more to be a sandbox of mine to to testing in. Once things work properly, they go in the main tree. 15:55 < Mike1> ack 15:58 * [anders] listening to Massive Attack - Karmacoma.... 16:00 * Mike1 listening to the mupphets.... 16:03 < Mike1> huebi: i am running a new fresh build with ur fixes 16:03 < Mike1> lets hope it builds straight 16:06 * -> esden back 16:06 < esden> argh .. gcc is not building ... 16:10 < Mike1> esden: gcc3? 16:10 < Mike1> stage 2 ? 16:10 < blindcoder> esden: correct :) 16:10 < blindcoder> esden: so fix it 16:11 < huebi> re 16:11 < Mike1> re huebi 16:11 < Mike1> blindcoder: ur stuck at that point as well? 16:11 < huebi> I'm off now, getting winter tites for my car. 16:11 < Mike1> huebi: mmm ... ok have fun 16:11 < huebi> Later I start a new build. 16:12 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes 16:12 < huebi> Mike1: can you just commit audiofile.pz again? 16:12 < blindcoder> haven't had time to look at it 16:12 < blindcoder> nethack is keeping me busy 16:13 < Mike1> huebi: yes i will in a moment i am just doing something from work first 16:13 < huebi> Mike1: ack 16:13 < Mike1> huebi: it will be commited when you get back :) 16:13 < huebi> Thank you. 16:13 < huebi> ...wech! 16:13 < Mike1> welcome 16:16 < [anders]> <- away 16:18 < Mike1> [anders]: ok 16:19 < blindcoder> YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH 16:20 < Mike1> blindcoder: you fixed it??? 16:20 < blindcoder> the nethack package configuration works!! 16:20 < Mike1> ah congratz 16:20 < blindcoder> thanks :) 16:20 * owl^work leaves you now 16:20 < owl^work> bye. cu later 16:20 < blindcoder> that code is so ugly, it micht kill someone 16:20 -!- owl^work [~mail-spam@213.68.39.1] has quit ("leaving") 16:33 < Mike1> aszlig: awake? 16:36 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@80.152.13.41] has quit ("leaving") 16:40 < d3mian> hi all 16:41 < Mike1> hi d3mian 16:41 < d3mian> tons k Mike1 ! 16:41 < d3mian> como va todo ? 16:41 < Mike1> aqui trabajando un monton 16:41 < Mike1> muy bien gracias 16:41 < d3mian> hablo con Daniel al fin y al cabo ? 16:41 < Mike1> estoy corriendo 3 builds ahorita 16:42 < d3mian> !!! 16:42 < Mike1> d3mian: mas o menos le estoy consiguiendo el cable para el v35 16:42 < d3mian> umm 16:42 < d3mian> i had some probs with imlib2 and enlightenment 16:43 < d3mian> Eterm built fine.. using libast 0.5 and imlib2 16:43 < Mike1> rock 1.7? 16:43 < d3mian> but enlightenment has some probs with imlib2.. i had to rebuild imlib 1.9.9 to amake it work 16:43 < d3mian> but with one theme, i receive a segfault 16:44 < d3mian> imlib2 is very cool 16:44 < d3mian> ;-) 16:44 < d3mian> fast and powerful 16:44 < d3mian> no es rock.. 16:44 < d3mian> la otra 16:44 < Mike1> :) 16:44 < Mike1> i see\ 16:44 < d3mian> vim sigue sin funcionar 16:44 < Mike1> pero vim es demaciado facil 16:45 < d3mian> Mike1: wanna see screenshots ? 16:45 < blindcoder> hi d3mian 16:45 < Mike1> que problema tienes 16:45 < Mike1> d3mian: sure give us some links 16:45 < d3mian> Mike1: pero no se porque se pone en varas conmigo !! no encuentra los headers en /usr/include.. los demas paketes lo hacen! 16:45 < d3mian> tampoco si le pongo configure --include-dirs=/usr/include 16:46 < Mike1> ni asi funka? 16:46 < Mike1> que version de vim usas? 16:47 < d3mian> 61 16:47 < zer0_o^> o_0 16:47 < blindcoder> /me going home 16:47 < blindcoder> bye 16:47 < zer0_o^> bye 16:47 < d3mian> hi blindy 16:47 < Mike1> cu blindy 16:49 < d3mian> i havent made screens of enlightenment and Eterm using imlib 2 yet.. i think the prob with imlib2 is that it has some incompatibility handling the rest of standalone libraries, libjpeg, libpng and such other 16:52 < Mike1> ok 17:09 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit () 17:16 * d3mian doing some mips code .. cya 17:30 < Mike1> huebi: *ping* 17:43 * -> esden driving home 17:43 < esden> cu all 17:45 < Mike1> cu esden 17:51 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090AC0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:59 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D660.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:59 < Mike1> hello tcr! 18:00 < tcr> re all 18:03 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-173-254.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:04 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090A990.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < tcr> hi Mike1 18:06 < tcr> uhi... /me feels totatly free... having the haires cutted till the shoulders make me so freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.. 18:06 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-200-79.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:27 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-17-2-dialup-229.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:27 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-200-79.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Reconnecting") 18:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:44 < d3mian> re 18:49 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-85.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:49 < d3mian> Bill Gates. The man who bought the world (Gerard Beekmans) 18:49 < d3mian> hi rxr 18:52 * Mike1 is away: having lunch with his girl :) 18:54 < Ge0rG> mhm... cannibalism is cool 18:55 * d3mian is having some fun without his girl :) 19:14 < zer0_o> ?? 19:15 * zer0_o is having some fun with his hand :) 19:15 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-17-2-dialup-229.freesurf.ch] has quit () 19:48 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D660.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 19:49 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813D83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:11 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:19:12) 20:11 < Mike1> re all 20:12 < tcr> having had fun? 20:12 < Mike1> tcr: yeah i had a LOTS of fun :) 20:13 < tcr> you do _not_ need to laborate *g* 20:13 < tcr> elaborate 20:14 < Mike1> :P 20:14 < Mike1> ok i am back to code :) 20:15 -!- Freak [freak@p50838E53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:16 < d3mian> ok im back to home, cya 20:16 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 20:43 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5086.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:43 < owl> re 20:53 < Mike1> hi owly 20:53 < Mike1> owl: i have a gift for you 20:53 < Mike1> https://www.linux-directory.com/cards/cards/hugapenguin.gif 20:54 < owl> Mike1: hi. thx ;) and i'm glad that i'm not a penguin ;P 20:54 < Mike1> :) 20:54 < Mike1> doesnt matter 20:54 < owl> ;P 20:54 * Mike1 hugs pwlita 20:54 < Mike1> owlita even 20:54 < owl> tstststs ;P 20:58 < Mike1> rolla 21:05 < Mike1> blindcoder: awake? 21:09 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B069.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:09 < tsa> moin. 21:09 < Mike1> hi tsa 21:10 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:10 < rolla> Mike 21:10 < Mike1> == 14:16:58 =[5]=> Building base/units [1.80 1.7-snapshot]. 21:10 < Mike1> :) 21:10 < rolla> very cool 21:19 < tsa> hehehe 21:19 < tsa> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware 21:19 < tsa> I have some old SS20s with hot CPUs. I need to put the machines in a 21:19 < tsa> closet (don't ask) 21:20 < tsa> *LOL* 21:20 -!- Freak [freak@p50838E53.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 21:21 < owl> hi tsa 21:21 < tsa> tag owl. 21:22 < owl> tsa: wie geht's? 21:31 < tsa> jojo...wochenende halt. 21:33 < owl> tsa: heisst - gut? oder heisst: nochmehr arbeit? ;P 21:38 < tsa> ja. 21:45 < owl> uff. viel spass. 21:45 < owl> *yawning* 21:45 < owl> nothing to do anymore. --> off 21:45 < owl> bye. gn8. 21:46 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5086.pppool.de] has quit ("_NULL -> zzzzZZZZZZZZZZz") 21:50 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@p5082B216.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B069.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa_!~tsa@p5082B216.dip.t-dialin.net))) 21:50 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa 21:50 < tsa> re.. 21:57 < Mike1> re 22:17 < esden> .k.bcbi 22:17 < esden> evening 22:19 < Mike1> hi esden 22:20 < tsa> hi esden 22:45 < Mike1> *PING* >> huebi << 22:51 < esden> ok ... coffee is brewing ;-) 22:59 < Mike1> == 16:05:04 =[5]=> Building rene/cups [1.1.15-1 1.7-snapshot]. 23:00 < Mike1> mmm.. looking good atm :) 23:01 < blindcoder> evening 23:04 < Mike1> hi blindcoder 23:04 < Mike1> blindcoder: have a look: 23:04 < Mike1> == 16:10:02 =[5]=> Building rene/libsndfile [1.0.1 1.7-snapshot]. 23:05 < blindcoder> huh??? 23:05 < blindcoder> mtf? 23:05 < blindcoder> wtf? 23:05 < blindcoder> how did you do that?\ 23:08 < esden> hihi blindcoder 23:09 < blindcoder> hi esden 23:11 * blindcoder doing a `cvs up -Pd` 23:14 < Mike1> blindcoder: hehe 23:14 < Mike1> cvs up -dP wont help you 23:14 < Mike1> no fix has been commited 23:15 < Mike1> *vbeg* 23:16 < esden> blindcoder: when you want to get depri ... go to bchat ... >_< 23:17 < blindcoder> MMMMIIIIKKKKEEEE!!!! 23:17 < Mike1> esden: is it that bad? 23:17 < Mike1> BBLLIINNDDYY 23:17 < Mike1> !! 23:17 < blindcoder> Mukdon't be so gruel >_< 23:17 < blindcoder> Mike1 ... 23:18 < blindcoder> *argh* should sleep... 23:18 < blindcoder> but don't want to end this wonderful day 23:18 < Mike1> sure get some sleep :P 23:18 < blindcoder> nah... 23:26 < esden> Mike1: no ... I am talking with a boy ... that has a girlfriend that is pregnant and wants to abort ... and her parents and this boy are against it ... but ... 23:26 < blindcoder> oh... bad situation 23:27 < blindcoder> Sorry, I'm too hay to talk about these things right now 23:27 < blindcoder> s/hay/happy/ 23:27 < Mike1> esden: HOLLY SHIT 23:28 < Mike1> esden: i wish i was there to talk to both the guy and his girl 23:29 < esden> hmm ... he is calling her now ... 23:30 < blindcoder> ID ten 23:30 < esden> he supposes thot this baby is not his ... but that does not matter for him ... he only wants to be with her and the child ... 23:32 < blindcoder> sweet... and then we'll be a happy family and noone will ever know the truth... 23:32 < blindcoder> I'w about to throw up 23:32 < esden> ? blindcoder ... I do not understand ... 23:33 < blindcoder> isn't it sweet of him? he doesn't care if it's his baby or not, he just loves his gf 23:33 < blindcoder> Is it stupidity? 23:34 < blindcoder> She betrayed him, damnit! 23:34 < esden> blindcoder: do not be sarcastic >_< 23:34 < esden> I think he is acting correctly !!! 23:34 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-85.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:34 < Mike1> esden: its a nice thing what he is doing but i am affraid bindy is right 23:34 < esden> I would not do it different 23:35 < blindcoder> well I know neither the complete background nor what he did and did not 23:35 < Mike1> esden the right thing is that the father take care of the child as she betrayed her bf 23:35 < esden> yes right ... you should have more info ... to know what to do in such a situation ... 23:35 < Mike1> but anyways if he loves her and forgives guess its fine 23:35 < blindcoder> but if it really isn't his baby, then there are bound to be problems 23:36 < Mike1> brb 23:36 < Mike1> DONT start a blame war without me 23:36 < Mike1> *GGG* 23:36 < esden> blindcoder: sure there are/will be problems ... 23:36 < Mike1> s/blame/flame 23:36 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-200-5.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:37 < esden> but I am really against abortion ... I am pro abortion in very extreme situations ... and that is not an extreme situation 23:37 < blindcoder> esden: let's just agree that the situation is bad 23:37 < esden> she is 23 ... not studying anything ... and living already on the costs of this guy 23:38 < blindcoder> hmm... 23:38 < Mike1> esden: i am against abortion as well 23:38 < blindcoder> well I don't saf she necessarily has to abort 23:39 < esden> blindcoder: that is the main problem ... 23:39 < blindcoder> but it's her decision after all... 23:39 < esden> yes ... even if it is in my means a really stupid decision ... and she will be sorry for it in the future for sure 23:39 < blindcoder> but there are things you can do instead 23:40 < blindcoder> for example one of these "Babyklappen". 23:40 < Mike1> NO ONE has the right to take somebody elses life >_< 23:40 < blindcoder> It's not the best thing to da but it's better than something close to murder 23:41 < blindcoder> Mike1: would you force a woman who has been sexually abused to carry the baby? 23:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: thats a whole different story 23:41 < blindcoder> it's an extreme situation, fes, but possible 23:42 < blindcoder> but what's the difference? in bath situations someone is taking someone elses life 23:42 < esden> blindcoder: I mean in this situation ... she nearly has no right (moraly) to take the life of her baby 23:43 < blindcoder> esden: no she hasn't, I agree on this 23:43 < esden> in other situations I would say something different for sure 23:43 < Mike1> esden: full ack 23:44 < blindcoder> yes I think we came a little off topic 23:44 < esden> hehe ... the abortion prediction engine ... named rock linux is being developed here ... so we are not offtopic ;-) 23:45 < esden> argh ... they are stealing my coffee !!! 23:45 < esden> ok ... this coffee was bought by fake ... but he is not here ;-) 23:46 < Mike1> *g* 23:46 < blindcoder> *lol* 23:46 < blindcoder> who's @bitz? 23:46 < esden> testy and 30 23:47 < blindcoder> k 23:47 < esden> I hope they will go home soon ;-0 23:47 < blindcoder> argh this wonderful day is nearly over... 23:47 < blindcoder> hehe 23:50 < esden> you are so sarcastic blindcoder 23:51 < blindcoder> why? _my_ day was monderful 23:51 < blindcoder> at least the evening was :) 23:51 < esden> hmm ... really ... ? 23:51 < esden> you saw me ... that is terrible enough ;-) 23:51 < blindcoder> there are things that gan straighten even _that_ out :) 23:52 < blindcoder> erm... english? where have my sanguage capabilities gone? 23:52 < blindcoder> oh... they already went to bed 23:54 < blindcoder> cat /etc/langcap 23:54 * -> esden be back 23:57 < Mike1> ok 23:58 < blindcoder> kuso... Dowmloading the new sources is taking ages... 23:59 < Mike1> blindcoder: sources or packages? 23:59 < blindcoder> packages --- Log closed Sat Nov 09 00:00:52 2002