-!- Irrsi  Log opened Mon Nov 11 00:00:27 2002
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[00:40] < fooblah> hello ;)
[00:46] < chrisime_> hmpf
[00:47] < chrisime_> fooblah, hast du ahnung von clock_gettime(...) ?
[00:52] < fooblah> aehm
[00:52] < fooblah> sry no
[00:52] < fooblah> <<is drunken ;)
[00:52] < fooblah> and c n00b ;)
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[01:15] < esden> re hi all ...
[01:15]   esden is tired
[01:16] < esden> fooblah: drunken ... on sunday ???
[01:17] < tsa> hi esden
[01:20] < esden> hi tsa
[01:32] < esden> cool ... the solar power guy rulez *rofl*
[01:33] < esden> rocklinux running on solar ;-)
[01:33] < tsa> hehe, yepp
[01:33] < tsa> irgendwie lustig das..
[01:34] < esden> rocklinux powered by sun ;-)
[01:37] < tsa> still need to get sun powered by rocklinux, hm? ;)
[01:41] < esden> yes ... that is our target ;-)
[01:41] < tsa> https://www.eqi-clan.de/lego/lego-dope.html
[01:42] < esden> ?
[01:42] < tsa> just have a look..
[01:42] < esden> the url not existing
[01:43] < esden> ahh now
[01:43] < esden> ok
[01:43] < tsa> hehe
[01:46] < fooblah> *hicks*
[01:47] < fooblah> i check rocklinux 1.7 - if i able to config - build it
[01:47] < fooblah> if yes... i make a howto and a faq ;)
[01:48] < fooblah> <<has nothing to do until february.. cause the limit of "zivis?" is full...
[01:49] < fooblah> so i have free...
[01:50] < fooblah> hmm...
[01:50] < fooblah> gnapster suxx...
[01:51] < fooblah> mldonkey is much better
[01:51] < fooblah> u should add this package
[01:51] < fooblah> @developers ;)
[01:51] < tsa> hehe, ack.
[01:52] < tsa> ..although i have to admit i've never tried mldonkey..
[01:53] < tsa> should have a look at ocaml..
[02:08] < fooblah> mldonkey is really good
[02:09] < fooblah> if i compare "emule" and "mldonkey" ... mldonkey is the better choose
[02:09] < tsa> yes, i know..
[02:13] < fooblah> rocklinux needs more complete iso's *think*
[02:14] < fooblah> eg. optimized for athlon xp, tb etc.
[02:14] < fooblah> i'm sure more people would try it
[02:56] < esden> re
[02:58] < esden> th: ocaml sucks reallly badly ... more then you can imagine ... it is the programakle brainfuck of current days !
[02:59] < esden> ok .. good night boys and girls
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[03:08] < x1bncwn> hello..what kind of package management does rock use?
[03:09] < x1bncwn> also i kinda had a question about why it choose a mirror that had a 280ms ping time over a 180ms ping..when it was choosing a mirror during the installation..heh
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[04:54] < maisenhe> re
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[05:09] < maisenhe> hallo ?
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[09:24] < blindcoder> morning
[09:27] < Freak> hihi
[09:28] < blindcoder> moin Freak
[09:28] < blindcoder> how's it going?
[09:28] < Freak> ts fine
[09:28] < Freak> tanks. how boutchoo?
[09:28] < blindcoder> furking around with 1.7, but don't have to work today :)
[09:29] < Freak> yea me neither
[09:29] < Freak> it's a good feeling to have the monday off :)
[09:29] < blindcoder> And I so hoped I'd be the only one :)
[09:29] < Freak> heh
[09:30] < Freak> too bad
[09:30] < blindcoder> yes, recovering from the weekend
[09:30] < Freak> right. I worked the last two days.
[09:31] < blindcoder> oh... why that?
[09:32] < Freak> regular work in a hospital.
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[09:35] < blindcoder> damnit
[09:36] < Freak> re
[09:36] < blindcoder> re Freak
[09:36] < blindcoder> again: why did you have to work yesterday+
[09:37] < Freak> regular work in a hospital.
[09:37] < blindcoder> oh, I see
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[10:49] < rxr> re
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[11:14] < fake> gutae morgae
[11:17] < blindcod1r> moin fake
[11:18] < blindcod1r> fake: cd / && tar xfvI usr/src/rock-src-1.7/build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/pkgs/glibc.tar.bz2
[11:18] < blindcod1r> geht bislang noch einwandfrei :)
[11:18] < blindcod1r> und endlich compiled der ganze scheiss
[11:20]   blindcod1r now off to his garage
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[12:47] < fake> club-mate.net ???
[12:47] < fake> *grr*
[12:47] < th> yea
[12:47] < th> ;>
[12:47] < th> we did it ;)
[12:48] < Ge0rG> hehe.... after I missed irssi.de registration only by some hours ;)
[12:48] < fake> http -> redirect to club-mate.de ?
[12:49] < fake> KGB
[12:49] < fake> Kollektive Getränke Basis
[12:49] < fake> Im Kampf gegen den Durst
[12:49] < fake> *ROFL*
[12:49] < th> Ge0rG: grummel. da war ja noch ne mail pending von dir...
[12:52] < Ge0rG> fake: http redirect?
[12:53] < x1bncwn> i got a question..during install i keep getting this error
[12:53] < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory
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[12:56] < fake> HUH?!
[12:56] < term_emu> moin
[12:56] < fake> my acpi works! weee... *jumparound*
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[13:36] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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[13:52] < fooblah> hello
[13:52] < blindcoder> hi fooblah
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[13:58] < fooblah> i've got some problems by building bash/binutils/gcc3.2 - it says that (athlon-tbird) is a bad value?
[14:00] < blindcoder> I've had similiar problems here
[14:00] < fooblah> hmm...
[14:00] < blindcoder> updating to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2 helps there
[14:00] < fooblah> i try to build them manual
[14:00] < fooblah> this is gcc3.2 :/
[14:01] < fooblah> hmm...
[14:01] < blindcoder> but take care! Updating the glibc means recomiling severas programs
[14:01] < fooblah> i know
[14:01] < fooblah> i tried to update glibc and then my system didn't boot again... :/
[14:01] < blindcoder> I haven't  tried athlon-tbird but k6-2 and pentium4
[14:02] < blindcoder> that's why I don't intend to boot it untal I have a new 1.7 Image for it :)
[14:02] < fooblah> *gg*
[14:02] < fooblah> i trie to build a cc... maybe it will work
[14:02] < blindcoder> okay
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[14:06] < esden> hi all
[14:06] < fooblah> esden: hi
[14:06] < esden> hi fooblah
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[14:18] < blindcoder> hi  esden
[14:21] < fooblah> ./scripts/Build-Pkg builds usually with cc or gcc?
[14:21] < blindcoder> depends what you selected in scripts/Config
[14:24] < esden> sweet .... that is something I can use to switch to uClibc hopefully ;-) : https://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lwl1/?t=gr,lnxw12=LLP1
[14:24] < fake> fooblah: cc-wrapper
[14:24] < fake> esden: see through the comments.... *g*
[14:26] < blindcoder> hmmm 3 concurrent builds and md5summing whole CDs at the same time kills performance :)
[14:29] < fooblah> bye (eating)
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[14:29] < esden> fake: ???
[14:31] < esden> fake: where are the comments ? o_O /me blind
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[14:40] < fake> esden: @slashdot
[14:40] < esden> aha ... ok
[14:41] < esden> fake: and you mean that there is something interesting ?
[14:41] < fake> esden: about that article. but i think i am not on the usual treshhold, so nevermind ;)
[14:41] < esden> ahh you answered ?
[14:44] < esden> fake: what username do you use for slashdot ?
[14:44] < esden> ahh there is it
[14:45] < esden> hmm ... no reply ... :-/
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[14:46] < Mike1> moin
[14:48] < esden> hi Mike1
[14:49] < Mike1> hi esdy
[14:51] < blindcoder> moin Mike1
[14:51] < Mike1> hi blindy
[14:52] < blindcoder> blb
[14:53] < x1bncwn> wget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2
[14:53] < x1bncwn> whoops
[14:53] < Mike1> ping huebi
[14:56] < esden> x1bncwn: shell I do /dcc send mykernel now ?
[14:56] < Mike1> lol
[15:03] < esden> who of you besides fake and me are using 1.7 already ?
[15:03] < fake> clifford is
[15:03] < fake> and rene
[15:04] < Mike1> esden: my build is finished so i will too in a few minutes
[15:05] < Mike1> hi fake btw
[15:05] < fake> hi Mike1
[15:07] < blindcoder> esden: I'm trying to do so
[15:07] < blindcoder> but the generic-Target is not compiling
[15:08] < blindcoder> I've made a glibc/gcc-Update on crazyhorse and am now compiling from scratch
[15:08] < blindcoder> If ih does compile now I'll try with optimisation
[15:08] < Mike1> having fun blindcoder?
[15:08] < blindcoder> Mike1: not really
[15:08] < Mike1> :P
[15:09] < esden> ok ...
[15:09] < Mike1> esden: why?
[15:09] < esden> I consider kernel panics when using alsa ...
[15:10] < esden> does anyone know the blinking codes of the keyboard of a kernel panic ?
[15:10] < esden> my capslock diode is blinking after the system crash ...
[15:10] < esden> does anyone know what it means ?
[15:10] < blindcoder> esden: the codo knows it
[15:10] < blindcoder> code :P
[15:11] < esden> yes ... :P
[15:11] < esden> but I thought someone knows it by hard so I can skip the code reading part ..
[15:13] < th> re
[15:13] < th> huebi: ping
[15:13] < blindcoder> okay... binutils compiled... kernel compiled...
[15:13] < blindcoder> anything I'm missing?
[15:15] < esden> blindcoder: bootdisk ?
[15:15] < blindcoder> nice...
[15:15] < blindcoder> esden: on my _running_  system
[15:15] < rolla> Mike
[15:15] < esden> blindcoder: urgh ...
[15:15] < blindcoder> == 15:07:05 =[2]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.10 1.7-snapshot].
[15:15] < esden> you are updating to 1.7 runtime ?
[15:16] < blindcoder> sweet! without any packages failing it reached stage 2
[15:16] < esden> respect ...
[15:16] < esden> but binutils will fail here ...
[15:16] < blindcoder> esden: no, just updated to glibc 2.3.1 on my running system
[15:16] < esden> that is not a glibc error
[15:16] < esden> binutils will fail in the secon stage ...
[15:17] < blindcoder> hmm it compiled before
[15:17] < esden> +d
[15:17] < esden> strange ... ok ... can be
[15:17] < blindcoder> we'll see
[15:17] < esden> rofl : package/rene/blender/blender.desc
[15:17] < blindcoder> I just check if anything needs to be recompiled, too, so that my system _can_ come back up mhen rebooting
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[15:18] < esden> rene wants to maintain all rock packets ?
[15:18] < blindcoder> most of them
[15:18] < esden> he is not able to maintain the packets he already has ...
[15:18] < blindcoder> well
[15:18] < esden> most of them are broken blindcoder
[15:19] < esden> all the enlightenment stuff is not compiling ...
[15:19] < blindcoder> yes...
[15:19] < esden> because of imlib2 ...
[15:19] < blindcoder> btw: mhat package is libwrap in?
[15:19] < esden> no idea
[15:19] < esden> grep libwrap /var/adm/flist/*
[15:20] < blindcoder> can you grep through your 1.7 flists?
[15:20] < blindcoder> I have 1.5 running, esden...
[15:20] < esden> ok ... moment I have to start my laptop
[15:20] < blindcoder> and there the package is called sslwrap
[15:20] < blindcoder> which doesn't exist is 1.7
[15:20] < esden> so should I check or not ?
[15:21] < esden> so you know where libwrap is ...
[15:21] < esden> {
[15:21] < esden> ?
[15:21] < x1bncwn> its in tcp_wrappers
[15:21] < esden> ok ... shutting down laptop
[15:21] < blindcoder> x1bncwn: thanks
[15:22] < esden> hmm ... I should go for lunch now
[15:22] < blindcoder> esden: all the 1.5 stuff doesn't compile with glibc 2.3.1 so I need the 1.7 stuff
[15:22] < esden> cu guys ... (lunch and reading the Lightweight Linux article)
[15:23] < esden> blindcoder: ok
[15:23]   esden off
[15:23] < blindcoder> an guadn
[15:23]   blindcoder off to the electronics-shop
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[15:33] < x1bncwn> i keep getting this error
[15:34] < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory
[15:34] < x1bncwn> wtf is /usr/bin/time
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[15:43] < Mike1> re
[15:43] < rolla> er
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[15:55]   Mike1 waiting for huebi to commit his last changes ...
[15:57] < blindcoder> rehi
[15:57] < blindcoder> esden: it's the "Automati documentation creation" that breaks binutils
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[16:42] < Mike1> https://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/misc/report.txt
[16:42] < Mike1> Commets, bug reports, suggestions are very welcome
[16:45] < blindcoder> nice
[16:45] < Mike1> :)
[16:46] < Mike1> that will go to the Rolling ROCK
[16:49] < x1bncwn> wtf is this thing downloading all of gnome and such when im trying to do a base installation
[16:50] < blindcoder> sure, It's where it belongs :)
[16:50] < blindcoder> x1bncwn: the domnloads are target specific
[16:50] < blindcoder> if you don't want some packages, then deactivate them in the package selection
[16:50] < x1bncwn> ok
[16:51] < x1bncwn> but i dont rememeber telling to to choose all that
[16:51] < x1bncwn> cant i *not* install all that?
[16:51] < x1bncwn> and also i get an error on Build-Pkg something about  /usr/bin/time  which doesnt exist
[16:51] < blindcoder> yes in the package selector
[16:51] < blindcoder> you need to have `time` installed
[16:51] < x1bncwn> well im actually installing from within another distro
[16:52] < x1bncwn> i didnt see any option to select packages
[16:52] < blindcoder> erm... ROCK 1.5 or 1.7?
[16:52] < x1bncwn> 1.7
[16:52] < blindcoder> it's in the `expert` functions
[16:53] < x1bncwn> it only says
[16:53] < x1bncwn> ,----< Package selection rules >----.
[16:53] < x1bncwn> | 001:  <new line>
[16:53] < x1bncwn> `-----------------------------------'
[16:53] < x1bncwn> and show the current package list
[16:53] < blindcoder> yes, hit enter on 001:  <new line>
[16:53] < x1bncwn> ok
[16:53] < x1bncwn> then enter package names?
[16:54] < blindcoder> then enter something like `- gnome*`
[16:54] < x1bncwn> some you can use wildcards?
[16:54] < x1bncwn> so*
[16:54] < blindcoder> yes
[16:54] < x1bncwn> cool..thanks
[16:54] < blindcoder> awk-style regex IIRC
[16:54] < x1bncwn> about /usr/bin/time  ..wtf do i get that?
[16:54] < blindcoder> maht distro?
[16:55] < x1bncwn> there isnt even a /usr/bin/time in gentoo
[16:55] < x1bncwn> or mandrake..heh
[16:55] < x1bncwn> its a shell builtin
[16:55] < x1bncwn> 'time'
[16:55] < blindcoder> hmm... wait a minute...
[16:55] < x1bncwn> but its a diff time..i switched to just time..and it errores
[16:57] < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz
[17:04] < fake> esden: you @bitz around 1915 ?
[17:05] < esden> re hi all
[17:05] < esden> fake: which train are you taking
[17:05] < esden> ?
[17:05] < fake> 17:53
[17:05] < esden> I have to go to DHR get some things and then get to the train
[17:05] < fake> so you will be in bitz later than me?
[17:06] < esden> fake could you take a train later ?
[17:06] < fake> esden: i could.
[17:06] < esden> will you do it /
[17:06] < esden> L\
[17:06] < esden> argh
[17:06] < esden> ?
[17:07] < esden> fake: ping
[17:08] < blindcoder> *yawn*
[17:08] < blindcoder> why oh why can't md5sum be faster >_<
[17:09] < esden> blindcoder: get a faster box with better io performance ;-)
[17:10] < esden> make a hardware acceleration for md5sum calculation ;-)
[17:10] < blindcoder> it's the CD-Drive
[17:10] < esden> lol
[17:10] < blindcoder> well... it's the DVD-Drive with the CD-Rom inside
[17:10] < esden> ok ... fake is not responding ... but I have to go ...
[17:10] < blindcoder> bye
[17:11] < esden> cu guys ... fake call me please
[17:11] < Mike1> cu esden
[17:14] < fake> esden: which train will you take?
[17:14] < fake> douh.
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[17:23] < blindcoder> 2 down, 5 to go
[17:23] < x1bncwn> any idea on /usr/bin/time ?
[17:23] < blindcoder> 016:51 < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz
[17:24] < x1bncwn> oh...my bad
[17:24] < blindcoder> no problem :)
[17:24] < blindcoder> just install it to /usr/bin and it should work out just fine
[17:25] < x1bncwn> haha i feel really stupid
[17:25] < x1bncwn> emerge -s time 'revealed' something to me
[17:25] < x1bncwn> heh :P
[17:25] < x1bncwn> *  sys-apps/time
[17:25] < x1bncwn> 1.7 even
[17:26] < x1bncwn> its still downloading all kinds of stuff though
[17:26] < blindcoder> hmm
[17:26] < x1bncwn> i did a install previously the same config..and it only download like 1/3 of what it is now
[17:26]   fake off -> train.
[17:26] < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -required
[17:27] < x1bncwn> it should already have everything -required
[17:27] < x1bncwn> thats what i ran
[17:27] < blindcoder> with -cfg <configname> it shouldn't happen
[17:27] < x1bncwn> its downloading qt for christs sake
[17:27] < x1bncwn> heh
[17:27] < x1bncwn> i think its downloading everything
[17:28] < blindcoder> hmm best would be to tell the rock-linux@rocklinux.org about it
[17:32] < x1bncwn> ok so is there a way to do just a minimal install without excluding packages?
[17:33] < x1bncwn> like what target should i be choosing
[17:34] < x1bncwn> generic?
[17:34] < Mike1> ... H ... U ... E ... B ... I ...
[17:39] < x1bncwn> wtf is a .gem package?
[17:40] < blindcoder> It will (is?) used by stone the package manager
[17:40] < Mike1> rock linux pkg for Gem Mine pkg manager
[17:40] < x1bncwn> oh..so its something new then?
[17:40] < blindcoder> mine.... damnit...
[17:40] < Mike1> blindcoder: :P
[17:40] < Mike1> x1bncwn: yeah its a 1.7 feature
[17:41] < blindcoder> I'm getting confused due to lack of coffee
[17:41] < x1bncwn> what is it..like a rpm or something?
[17:41] < x1bncwn> or is it a tar?
[17:41] < Mike1> yet another package manager used only by one distro :)
[17:41] < x1bncwn> no i mean the package format
[17:42] < Mike1> x1bncwn: more likely to be tar
[17:42] < x1bncwn> is it like some new algorithm or somehting?
[17:42] < Mike1> rpm and rock linux dont get along at all
[17:42] < x1bncwn> so i should choose that ove .tar.bz2?
[17:42] < x1bncwn> over*
[17:42] < x1bncwn> or it doesnt matter?
[17:43] < Mike1> its up to you
[17:43] < x1bncwn> the package tool can use both?
[17:43] < Mike1> i think so (not totally sure)
[17:44]   Mike1 is a 1.5 tree developer
[17:44] < x1bncwn> is there like a doc somewhere on the new installer
[17:44] < Mike1> blindcoder: ?
[17:44] < x1bncwn> i dont get how im suppoe to disable packages
[17:44] < x1bncwn> its got like ----    Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages
[17:44] < x1bncwn> use O where?
[17:45] < Mike1> blindcoder: !!!
[17:45] < Mike1> x1bncwn: mom
[17:45]   Mike1 troubleshooting a server
[17:45] < blindcoder> hm?
[17:46] < x1bncwn> whats the deal with the O and X and such to enable/disable packages
[17:46] < Mike1> blindcoder: help me out answering rock 1.7 related questions :))
[17:46] < x1bncwn> where do you set that
[17:46] < x1bncwn> ----    Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages
[17:46] < x1bncwn> so like "O gnome*"  ?
[17:46] < blindcoder> O = don't install by default X = install by default and - = remove it from the package list
[17:47] < blindcoder> with O it will still be built
[17:47] < x1bncwn> so like "- gnome*"  then
[17:47] < blindcoder> yes
[17:47] < x1bncwn> what about all the libs that gnome would install
[17:48] < x1bncwn> and stuff...bonobo libxml etc,etc
[17:48] < blindcoder> if the dependencies list a disabled package then it won't be built
[17:48] < x1bncwn> or do i have to implicitly disabel each one?
[17:48] < x1bncwn> cool
[17:50] < x1bncwn> ok so theres glibc and glibc22 how can i install only one of them?
[17:50] < x1bncwn> !!!!! Syntax error in rule set !!!!!
[17:50] < blindcoder> you need to have a ' ' between [XO-] and the package name
[17:51] < x1bncwn> there is
[17:51] < x1bncwn> "- glibc"
[17:51] < x1bncwn> wouldnt that just use glibc22?
[17:51] < blindcoder> hmmm you can choose  between glbc22 and 23 with another otion
[17:52] < blindcoder> it  will endisable the respective option
[17:53] < blindcoder> hmm can you paste youl list?
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[18:02] < x1bncwn> for some reason its not working
[18:02] < x1bncwn> ive tried "- gnome*" "- gnome/*" and - gnome* and - gnome/*
[18:03] < x1bncwn> oh n/m..it seems i can only put one per line
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[18:24] < blindcoder> sweet
[18:24] < blindcoder> stage 5 without errors
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[18:52] < tcr> moin all
[18:52] < Mike1> moin tcr
[18:54] < huebi> moin
[18:55] < Mike1> huebi: !!
[18:55] < Mike1> finally :)
[18:55] < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today.
[18:55] < Mike1> cool
[18:56] < Mike1> huebi: my build went straight to the end nothing broke
[18:56] < huebi> I'll be there .
[18:57] < tcr> what's up with 1.5.20?
[18:57] < Mike1> tcr: its spected to be released ... today, huebi?
[18:57] < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on UltraSparcIII machines.
[18:58] < Mike1> huebi: sounds like a lot of fun!! you will be able to build gnome2.1 stuff then
[18:58] < Mike1> :)
[18:58] < huebi> The release had to wait today because of my visit at SUN.
[18:59] < huebi> 1.5.20 will be released till midnight.
[18:59] < Mike1> midnight release... :)
[19:00] < tcr> huebi: would nice if you could send a messages to the ml about that
[19:00] < tcr> so that everyone is informed
[19:00] < tcr> i believe there are many more wanting it
[19:01] < Mike1> tcr: didnt know you were :)
[19:01] < huebi> But I still have no working installation disks. That takes more time as expected. Also no Changes are documented in a way readable for all.
[19:01] < huebi> I think I need time till tomorrow morning.
[19:02] < tcr> well ... i don't need it today.. but please doesn't let us uninform
[19:02] < tcr> doesn't->don't
[19:02] < huebi> tcr: I keep you all informed.
[19:02] < Mike1> mm...
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[19:02] < huebi> on
[19:02] < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
[19:02] < huebi> on
[19:02] < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
[19:02] < huebi> oops
[19:02]   Mike1 is away: meditating about 1.5
[19:03] < Eisofen> 'lo
[19:03] < tcr> m,oin
[19:03]   huebi writing mail to the list.
[19:03] < Eisofen> moin tcr
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[19:11] < Eisofen> hmm.. 1.5.19-iso boots with Kernel-panic...
[19:11] < huebi> Eisofen: What hardware?
[19:11] < Eisofen> Athlon tbird, SCSI...
[19:12] < Eisofen> panic came right after loading the scsi-layer
[19:13] < tcr> what messages did you get
[19:13] < Eisofen> ermh...
[19:13] < Eisofen> *gruebl*
[19:13] < huebi> Eisofen: in 1.5.20 I'll change that so that the modules have to be loaded manually
[19:13] < huebi> Eisofen: what SCSI?
[19:14] < Eisofen> adaptec
[19:14] < Eisofen> one 29160 one 2944
[19:14] < Eisofen> huebi: and please use the aic7xxxx_old ;-)
[19:14] < huebi> try it with only one controller.
[19:15] < huebi> Eisofen: why old
[19:15] < Eisofen> since the new aic7-driver won't do here....
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[19:15] < huebi> Eisofen: you can choose the one _you_ want in the future.
[19:15] < huebi> re [anders]
[19:16] < Eisofen> huebi: huu? I Thought it's not possible to compile both?
[19:16] < huebi> Eisofen: as modules it should be
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[19:16] < armijn> re
[19:17] < armijn> sourceforge mirror seems to be down
[19:17] < huebi> moin armijn
[19:17] < armijn> for the webpage
[19:17] < armijn> hi huebi
[19:17] < armijn> is esden here?
[19:17] < Eisofen> huebi: do you need the panic-message?
[19:17] < tcr> moin armijn
[19:17] < tcr> Eisofen: depends
[19:17] < huebi> Eisofen: No, Please test it tomorrow with 1.5.20 again and let me here about it then.
[19:18] < tcr> Eisofen: whas it just a kernel panic, or even a kernel oops?
[19:18] < Eisofen> no, panic
[19:18] < huebi> armijn: 18:55 < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today.
[19:18] < huebi> armijn: 18:57 < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on
[19:18] < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
[19:18] < huebi> 1
[19:18] < Eisofen> oops I'll get when I try to boot gentoo 1.2 ;-)
[19:19] < armijn> huebi: nice
[19:19]   Eisofen got a Sun U30...
[19:19] < huebi> armijn: Mr. Frenk is very cooperative.
[19:19] < armijn> Mr. Frenk...
[19:20]   tcr taking shower
[19:20] < armijn> huebi: does everything compile and boot for 1.5.20/
[19:20] < Eisofen> huebi: when will 1.5.20 up?
[19:20] < huebi> compile yes, boot not yet
[19:20] < armijn> huebi: so what's the problem?
[19:21] < huebi> Eisofen: tomorrow. I post it here and on the mailing list.
[19:21] < huebi> armijn: time.
[19:21] < Eisofen> ok, thanks
[19:21] < armijn> huebi: but why doesn't it boot? worng kernel config?
[19:22] < huebi> armijn: no, I had no time today. SUN had a very much higher priority for me.
[19:22] < armijn> but that doesn't really answer my question :)
[19:23] < huebi> armijn: I have very fine kernels for IPC, SparcClassic, SparcStation 10, U5 and U30.
[19:23] < armijn> ah, both sparc and sparc64?
[19:23] < huebi> ACK
[19:23] < armijn> and does that port work as well?
[19:24] < Eisofen> *drool*
[19:24] < armijn> no way, sparc was supposed to be my task :))
[19:24] < huebi> armijn: I did not built as boot CD. But what I've tested worked very, very good.
[19:24] < armijn> well, I do have a working ROCK on sparc64, so...
[19:25] < armijn> a few minor glitches though
[19:25] < huebi> armijn: Ok, just send me the bootable sparc kernel. This is the only differece to the sparc64 port.
[19:26] < armijn> heh, I haven't gotten around to actually do stuff on sparc ;-)
[19:29] < armijn> huebi: so it's just the boot CD missing for sparc64?
[19:33] < huebi> armijn: yes, only the boot cd is missing.
[19:33] < armijn> ah, so no big deal then...
[19:33] < huebi> I must leave now. Cu later tonight.
[19:33] < huebi> armijn: yes, no big deal but it needs time I spend at SUN today
[19:34] < huebi> cu
[19:34] < huebi> ...wech
[19:35] < armijn> ok
[19:35]   armijn gone as well
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[20:00] < fake> huebi: the test center in langen?
[20:00] < fake> Ruediger "The Gummibear" Frenk ?
[20:01] < fake> douh.
[20:06]   tcr re
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[20:14]   snyke kicks fake
[20:14]   blindcoder too
[20:14] < snyke> fake: move your ass to bitz (esden)
[20:15] < blindcoder> esden: ROCK 1.7 compiled straight through to stage 5
[20:16] < blindcoder> == 19:23:26 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2 1.7-snapshot].
[20:16] < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg amd
[20:16] < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
[20:16] < blindcoder> 559 builds total, 82 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[20:16] < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7#
[20:16] < snyke> (esden) ehm. ja.
[20:17] < blindcoder> someone should add "Update to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc3 to succesfully compile ROCK" to the dokus
[20:23] < blindcoder> esden:  mbtw, please tell me what you think of https://scavenger.homeip.net/archive.php (the content)
[20:25] < snyke> esden makes coffee
[20:25]   Mike1 is back (gone 01:23:06)
[20:26] < Mike1> re
[20:27] < Mike1> huhu [anders]
[20:27] < snyke> The archive is currently empty
[20:27] < snyke> .oO( esden )
[20:27] < snyke> lain ist nicht da schaeme dich ;-) (esden)
[20:28] < blindcoder> HAE???
[20:28] < blindcoder> wie "The archive is currently empty"???
[20:28] < blindcoder> ich bin noch am wiederaufbauen
[20:28] < snyke> (esden :Q)
[20:28] < snyke> he searched for "lain" and got "The arch..."
[20:29] < blindcoder> hmm then it's a bug
[20:29] < blindcoder> search for %
[20:31] < snyke> (esden) sweet
[20:31] < snyke> esden @ :-Q
[20:31] < Mike1> snykesden?
[20:33] < blindcoder> what a mix >_<
[20:34] < Mike1> blindcoder: :)
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[20:34] < Mike1> kaerf ih
[20:35] < blindcoder> care free?
[20:35] < Freak> 1ekiM ih
[20:35] < Mike1> :)
[20:35] < Mike1> blindcoder: ??
[20:36] < blindcoder> 20:23 < Mike1> kaerf ih (sounds like care free :)
[20:36] < Freak> heh
[20:37] < Mike1> blindcoder: lol :)
[20:37] < Mike1> oki go back to source
[20:37]   Mike1 porting gnome2.1 to the official 1.5 tree
[20:41] < Mike1> ping huebi
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[20:44] < snyke> brb
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[20:53] < maisenhe> re
[20:53] < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai, mina-san! (Good night, everyone!)
[20:53] < Mike1> yo maisenhe
[20:53] < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindy
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[20:58] < tsa> moin.
[20:58] < Mike1> hola tsa
[20:59] < tsa> holy Mike1
[20:59] < tsa> s,y,a
[20:59] < Mike1> holy tsa
[20:59] < Mike1> :P
[20:59] < tsa> hehe
[20:59] < tsa> <- too dumb to type
[20:59] < Mike1> tape
[20:59] < Mike1> :)
[21:02]   tsa refetching complete 1.7 sources.
[21:02] < tsa> *sigh* more than half of rene's packages seem to have broken download locations..
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[21:13] < _NULL> seid gegruesst/hi
[21:13] < tsa> hi owlita
[21:13] < tsa> *hug*
[21:13] < _NULL> tsa: hi. nicht schon wieder!!!
[21:15] < Mike1> 1...
[21:15] < Mike1> 2...
[21:15] < Mike1> 3...
[21:15] < _NULL> hi Mike1
[21:15] < _NULL> stop!
[21:15]   Mike1 hugs owlita
[21:15] < Mike1> hi owlita
[21:15] < _NULL> nonono
[21:15] < Mike1> SO GLAD TO SEE U !
[21:15] < _NULL> thx. the same to you.
[21:17] < esden> re hi all
[21:17] < Mike1> re esden
[21:17] < tsa> _NULL: prefieres un beso?
[21:17] < tsa> hi esden
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[21:18] < tsa> (de Mike1, por supuesto)
[21:18] < _NULL> hi esden
[21:18] < Mike1> huhu [anders]_
[21:18] < Mike1> wtf?
[21:18] < _NULL> tsa: not again!
[21:18] < tsa> _NULL: por que?
[21:18] < Mike1> tsa come on dude just go and do it
[21:18] < Mike1> i know you want it
[21:18] < _NULL> tsa: no hable espanol
[21:18] < _NULL> s/hable/hablo
[21:19] < Mike1> tsa hehe creo que ya ahora si me dieron ganas de hablar espanol
[21:20] < Mike1> tsa que estas experando :)
[21:20] < Mike1> esperando*
[21:26] < tsa> nada....solo bromeando con _NULL ..
[21:27] < _NULL> tsa: huh?
[21:27] < Mike1> tsa: hehe ni si quiera sabe si esta mos bromeando o hablando cosas malas
[21:28] < Mike1> eres malo con _NULL sabes? hehe
[21:28] < tsa> hehehe
[21:29] < _NULL> Mike1, tsa: *lynch*
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[21:29] < tsa> what for? just because you don't understand what we're talking about?
[21:33] < tsa> _NULL: enojada?
[21:34] < Mike1> tsa: como siempre
[21:34] < tsa> si, probablemente..
[21:34] < Mike1> dale un besito para que se le quito lo enojada
[21:34] < Mike1> :P
[21:34] < tsa> nunca! jamas!
[21:35] < Mike1> nunca digas nunca :P
[21:35] < tsa> es tu novia, no es la mija..
[21:35] < Mike1> como que mi novia?
[21:35] < Mike1> estas loco
[21:35] < tsa> ack ;)
[21:36] < tsa> _NULL: still alive?
[21:36] < Mike1> tsa: https://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/personal/pics/we.png
[21:36]   Mike1 pokes owlita with a stick
[21:37] < Mike1> esa si es mi novia
[21:37] < Mike1> :P
[21:37] < tsa> hehe
[21:37] < tsa> cuantos anos tiene tu novia?
[21:37] < Mike1> 21
[21:37] < Mike1> :P
[21:38] < tsa> joven..
[21:38] < tsa> muy joven..
[21:38] < Mike1> atras podras ver mi jetsky :)
[21:38] < _NULL> huh??
[21:38] < _NULL> tsa: nope. almost dead.
[21:38] < Mike1> tsa yo tambien tengo 21 que esperabas ?
[21:38] -!- _NULL is now known as zombie
[21:38] < Mike1> zombie: are you a blood donator?
[21:39] < tsa> zombie: saludos al diablo..
[21:39] < Mike1> tsa: tu tienes otra novia ademas de owl?
[21:39] < zombie> huh?
[21:39] < Mike1> tsa zombie es la amante del diablo
[21:39] < zombie> i'm just a almost-dead owl/_NULL
[21:39] < Mike1> :PP
[21:39] < zombie> zombie != diablo
[21:40] < tsa> Mike1: no y no.
[21:40] < tsa> Mike1: no es mi novia.
[21:40] < Mike1> zombie: knows what diablo is?
[21:40] < tsa> tengo una, pero no es owl.
[21:40] < Mike1> tsa hehe
[21:40] < zombie> zombie: a devil...?
[21:40] < Mike1> pero tienes novia?
[21:40] < tsa> si
[21:40] < Mike1> zombie: devil = weak in spanish
[21:40] < Mike1> tsa: tienes fotos?
[21:40] < Mike1> :)
[21:41] < zombie> Mike1: urhgs.
[21:41] < Mike1> zombie: eres devil?
[21:41] < zombie> Mike1: ???
[21:41] < zombie> tsa = devil...? yes
[21:42] < zombie> s/=/==
[21:42] < Mike1> zombie: ¿¿¿
[21:42] < zombie> ???
[21:42] < Mike1> ¿¿¿
[21:42] < zombie> omg
[21:43] < Mike1> tsa: en cuanto tiempo crees que reviente de enojo (otra vez)?
[21:46] < tsa> hm...diez anos?
[21:46] < tsa> ;)
[21:46] < Mike1> diez minutos?
[21:46] < Mike1> :P
[21:47] < tsa> hm..
[21:47] < tsa> vamos a ver..
[21:47] < Mike1> owl te gusta comer tortillas de maiz?
[21:48] < Mike1> tsa: hablamos incoherencias?
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[21:49] < fooblah> hello
[21:49] < tsa> Mike1: hm?
[21:49] < Mike1> hi fooblah
[21:49] < Mike1> tsa: nevermind
[21:49]   Mike1 on the phone
[21:49] < tsa> sigh..seems i'm getting old ;)
[21:49] < Mike1> :P
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[21:50] < zombie> tsa: you _ARE_ old...
[21:50] < zombie> hi fooblah
[21:51] < Mike1> ohhh tsa that must hurt comming from a zombie
[21:51] < zombie> Mike1: *g* nope. just the evil master of cynism ;P
[21:52] < Mike1> oh
[21:52] < Mike1> Master zombie>?
[21:52] < zombie> master yoda ;P
[21:52] < Mike1> "Wonderfull the mind of the child is"
[21:53] < zombie> nope. i'm jsut tired and stressed and annoyed by many things...
[21:54]   fooblah is listening to Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody ;)
[21:54]   zombie is listening to AMD K6-II && intel pentium 1 cooler...
[21:54] < tsa> zombie: which are?
[21:55] < zombie> tsa: my relatives (especially my cousins), the fscking "deutsche bahn", moving (the office) and so on... and i'm damned tired but can't sleep
[21:55] < tsa> hm..
[21:56]   Mike1 listens to 2, 4 amd athlon 1.5 mp machines next to him
[21:56] < zombie> Mike1: send some of those machines to me! ;)
[21:57] < esden> Mike1: send some of them here too ;-)
[21:57] < zombie> esden: nope, you are male, you don't get one ;P
[21:57] < Mike1> well ur a zombie so neither you will get one :P
[21:58] < zombie> ;PPP
[21:58] < Mike1> but hey tsa is my a good friend
[21:58] < Mike1> so he might have a chance is he's got a pretty sister or friend
[21:58] < Mike1> *ggg*
[21:58] < zombie> uh. you and tsa have a relationship...
[21:59] < zombie> tstststs...
[21:59] < esden> owl can you stop changing your nicks ? !!!
[21:59] < zombie> esden: nope. why should i?
[21:59] < esden> that is starting to go on my nerves >_<
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[22:00] < zombie> esden: your problem. not mine.
[22:00]   Mike1 feel esden's anger
[22:00] < Mike1> the zombie will be destoyed
[22:00] < esden> zombie: it can become your problem too ...
[22:01] < zombie> esden: if you're frustrated you should leave the house, go to the city anf have look for girls who wanna fsck with you or things like that. _but stop offending/annoying me_!!!
[22:03] < Mike1> zombie: whats ur problem with esden?
[22:03] < zombie> Mike1: better you should ask esden what's his problem with me
[22:03] < Mike1> if you got problems with esden then guess what you got problems with me too
[22:04] < Mike1> zombie: simple you should stick a single nick name, it becomes a pain to have someone talking to you with a diferent nickname all the time, without mentioning the god damn flood in the channel with just nick switch advices
[22:06] < Mike1> </flame war>
[22:07] < zombie> Mike1, esden: "Ge0rG is still looking for that perfect nick after 119 changes thalerim (73)" << what about these people?
[22:07] < zombie> i have just _3_ nicks!
[22:08] < Mike1> owl you change nicks at least once every hour
[22:08] < Mike1> thats a lot different
[22:08] < zombie> oh great
[22:08] < zombie> and bye
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[22:09] < Mike1> damn no you cant tell her anything
[22:09] < Mike1> s/no/now*
[22:09] < fooblah> hmm...
[22:10] < fooblah> girls... ;)
[22:10] < Mike1> fooblah: yeah
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[22:28] < esden> rofl owl rulez ! ;-)
[22:29] < Mike1> hehe of course
[22:29] < tsa> y?
[22:29] < tcr> tsa: the patches sent to list, are these for 1.5 or 1.7?
[22:30] < tcr> or both :?
[22:30] < tsa> 1.7
[22:30] < Mike1> tsa nice patch flood btw :)
[22:30] < tsa> hehe
[22:30] < tcr> well, could you point them to huebi?
[22:30] < Mike1> tcr: ?
[22:30] < tsa> huebi reads the list, doesn't he?
[22:31] < Mike1> tcr: 1.5 when a patch if for 15 it is specified on the subject else it is taken as it is for 1.7
[22:32] < tcr> oks
[22:32] < Mike1> tcr: no worries i take care of availability of 1.5 ;)
[22:32] < tcr> i hope they will go in 1.5.20
[22:32] < tcr> thats the whole point for me
[22:32] < Mike1> tcr: we will see
[22:33] < Mike1> tcr: 1.5.20 release is only missing a few fixes for install disks from huebi
[22:33] < Mike1> tcr: all packages have the right download url and have been tested to build straight - no problems
[22:33] < tcr> well maybe some of them are already in 1.5
[22:34]   tsa sending next patch..
[22:34] < Mike1> so i will not update any more packages untill 1.520 is released
[22:34] < tcr> it pretty sucks that there isn't any communication between 1.5 and 1.7
[22:34] < Mike1> which is about a few hours
[22:34] < tcr> seems to be two completely different projects from time to time!
[22:34] < Mike1> tcr: 1.7 and 1.5 are totally different
[22:34] < tcr> that's not the point
[22:35] < tcr> in issues like e.g. pkg updating it should be one base
[22:35] < tcr> s,be,exist
[22:35] < tcr> on that both trees relies!
[22:37]   tcr brb
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[22:38] < tcr> lilo and e2fsprogs should be up to date in 1.5
[22:39] < Mike1> tcr: will check it out
[22:40] < tcr> tsa: i pointed some outdated pkgs to huebi some days ago
[22:40] < tcr> tsa: please verify if the following are outdated in 1.7 too:
[22:40] < tcr> sed 4.x
[22:40] < tcr> procps 3.x
[22:40] < Mike1> tcr: send me a list of the packages and i will update them
[22:40] < tcr> these are the important ones!
[22:40] < tcr> 'cause they changed the branch-version-number
[22:41] < tcr> sed 4.0 contains merges with super-sed, and it rulez that's why :D
[22:41] < tcr> and procps 3.x rulez anyway!
[22:41] < tcr> Mike1: in 1.5 they are updated
[22:41] < Mike1> tcr: ok
[22:41] < tsa> tcr: just sent a patch for sed
[22:42] < Mike1> tcr: you could also provide us patches :)
[22:42] < tcr> i don't use 1.7
[22:42] < Mike1> tcr: for 1.5
[22:43] < tcr> i pointed them to huebi in order to let them get in 1.5.20 -- so that he will verify a prope building of them
[22:43] < tsa> fsck.
[22:43] < tsa> login incorrect for metalab.unc.edu
[22:43] < Mike1> tcr: already did :)
[22:43] < tcr> but.. well
[22:44] < tcr> I also suggest huebi to append a list of all changed pkgs
[22:44] < tcr> in his release mail
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[22:44] < tcr> so the 1.7 people will get the chance to see what pkg might be outdated
[22:45] < Mike1> tcr: that would be too time consuming everything is on the changelog
[22:45] < Mike1> and i they wanna see the package versions they can fetch cvs run Puzzle and read scripts/packages
[22:46] < tsa> procps patch done, too.
[22:46] < tcr> every release mail should contain such a list
[22:46] < tcr> the cvs changelogs aren't very good to read
[22:47] < tcr> it's better to have one table: old -> new
[22:47] < Mike1> old new ....
[22:48] < Mike1> that would require me or huebi to read changelog and do it manually
[22:48] < Mike1> ah well i guess i will have to do it, thought 1.7 developers dont really care about whats going with 1.5
[22:48] < tsa> ok, i guess 15 patches (+1 sent directly to cliff) will be enough for today of clifford will possibly kill me..
[22:48] < tcr> he said it's a good idea, and he will do it
[22:48] < tsa> s,of,or,
[22:48] < tcr> Mike1: but /me cares
[22:49] < Mike1> tsa: nah just sent him 15 more :)
[22:49] < tsa> hm...did anyone talk to rxr in the last days?
[22:49] < Mike1> tcr: ok if he agreed it will be that way
[22:50] < Mike1> tcr: and btw thanks a lot for caring
[22:50] < Mike1> it really means a lot to us
[22:50] < tsa> i really wonder what's up with him - most of his packages are outdated or have broken download urls...
[22:50] < Mike1> THANKS :)
[22:50] < tcr> Mike1: the 1.5 tree should release a new release monthly .. this release mail should contain - besides urls/commandos to get/update - a list of new features or changed things, and also a list of updated pkgs
[22:50] < tsa> strange..
[22:50] < Mike1> tsa: thats because other sent him 16 packages a day and keep him to busy to update his own
[22:50] < tcr> that would be a profession and very apprecipate way
[22:50] < Mike1> *ggg*
[22:51] < tsa> Mike1: i did not send any patches for rene's stuff..
[22:51] < Mike1> tcr: you are right, nice suggestions
[22:51] < tsa> Mike1: just base, ia32 and my own stuff..
[22:51] < Mike1> tsa: i know
[22:51] < Mike1> btw whos more out of date rene or cliff?
[22:51] < tsa> rene.
[22:52] < Mike1> hehe
[22:53] < tsa> jsut a quick example - evolution 1.0.8 was released months ago, the new 1.2 tree introduced yesterday - rene still has 1.0.7 in his packages.. *sigh*
[22:53] < Mike1> mm....
[22:53] < tcr> he seems very busy currently
[22:53] < tcr> that means with other things
[22:54] < Mike1> i have not talk / hear from him in a lot of time
[22:54] < tsa> tcr: which means women, in most cases...
[23:00] < tsa> perhaps we should post some wild romours to the mailing list..
[23:00] < tsa> s,o,u,
[23:01] < tsa> hm...what do you think about "rene is pregnant"? ;-)))
[23:04] < Mike1> ROTL
[23:04] < tsa> *G*
[23:04] < tsa> eeehrm...
[23:04] < tsa> WTF?
[23:04] < tsa> we still don't have xfree 4.2.1 in 1.7?
[23:04] < tcr> lol++++++
[23:05] < tcr> in 1.5?
[23:05] < tsa> tcr: don't know.
[23:05] < tcr> well.. i don't care.. console rulezS
[23:05] < tsa> at least definitely not in 1.7
[23:05] < tsa> hehe
[23:05] < tsa> i'll send rene a mail.
[23:05] < tsa> off-list.
[23:06] < tcr> "Ey, bist du schwanger oder was?"
[23:06] < tsa> we planned pre2.0 stuff for this year, but > 50% of all packages seem to be broken...*sigh*
[23:06] < tsa> lol.
[23:06]   paperclip is away: sniffing crack
[23:07] < tsa> cracking sniff?
[23:08] < tsa> curl: (22) The requested file was not found
[23:08] < tsa> NARF!
[23:08] < tsa> always the same thing.
[23:10] < paperclip> don't you guys mirror packages on ibiblio?
[23:11] < tsa> nope
[23:11] < paperclip> hmm gentoo does.. at first i thought it was a waste..
[23:12] < fooblah|away> best band of world: Allman Brothers Band (song: whipping post) ;)
[23:12] < tsa> well, we have several mirrors, but that doesn't help if the master site doesn't have the software anymore because it's just outdated..
[23:13]   tsa throws en empty bottle at rxr - "go, fix packages!" ..
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[23:25] < esden> cool 1.7 rulez !!!
[23:26] < tsa> ?
[23:27]   esden has updated nearly all his machines to 1.7 ... and it seems to work nearly perfectly
[23:27] < esden> besides some shortcommings in stone ... and some other minor problems
[23:27] < esden> like the missing pcmcia startup script
[23:28] < tcr> shortcommings?
[23:28] < tcr> "zu kurz kommen" ?
[23:28] < esden> yes ... it is in many places not working properly like detection of the root partition for lilo/grub
[23:28] < tcr> let me see
[23:29] < esden> shortcommings = vernachlaessigungen/faehlende features
[23:30] < esden> also selection and deselection of whole packet categorys
[23:30] < tcr> hm
[23:30] < tcr> dunno if clifford applied my patch for using rootfs
[23:30] < tcr> s,for,when,
[23:31] < tcr> the detection of the root device should work unless you're using rootfs
[23:32] < tcr> modutils were updated in 1.5
[23:32] < esden> ? o_O
[23:32] < tcr> regarding to tsa
[23:33] < esden> tcr: you are thalerim ? sorry for this question in advance.
[23:33] < tsa> hehe
[23:33] < tcr> yes
[23:34] < esden> hehe ... ahh good ... because thalerim disappeared suddenly and you came here ;-)
[23:34] < tsa> lol.
[23:35] < tcr> naturally
[23:35] < esden> yes ... ;-)
[23:38]   tcr gn8 all
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[23:48] < snyke> hm
[23:52] < esden> hi snyke
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